Of course they aren’t changing girls to boys and boys to girls.

In the video “Has Swedish feminism gone too far?” a school administrator states:

People think that we are going to change girls to boys, and boys to girls.  But that is of course not what we are doing.

Immediately after she says this, the video cuts to a picture of a children’s book with a little boy playing soccer in a pink dress on the cover.  This isn’t intended to be humorous or to call out the lie, but to reinforce her argument that the school is merely allowing children to be themselves.  Starting at 2:02:

The book is titled Kalle med klänning, which Google translates to Skull with dress.  From the Google translation of the book’s description:

It is the hottest day of the entire summer holiday. Kalle is sweating and would very much like to have a dress that blows. When he gets one of his cousins’ grown-up dress that is completely pink with silver dots, he gets so happy! And the dots are luminous!
Kalle loves the dress, it is much cooler and more comfortable than his shirt and pants.
And when he starts school after the summer, he refuses to take it off. his teacher complains and his friends laugh – until the day he scores goal after goal on the football matches.
Kalle is wearing a real goalie dress.
And now everyone else wants a…

The author explains why she wrote the book:

One of my sons has spent much of his life dressed in a dress because he loves dresses. When he was four or five years old, many were disturbed by how he was dressed and thought he could do it at home where no one saw him alone. It was so hard to tell the difference whether he was a guy or a girl. I got angry and felt that Kalle was needed to show that if one can be as one wants then one becomes good at everything and that dress is a garment just like anything else.

The lie is paper thin, and all pretext of feminists wanting to allow children to “be as they are” is casually discarded when it isn’t useful.  In the opening of the same video feminists are arguing that boys shouldn’t be permitted to pee standing up.  They interview a Swedish lawmaker who introduced a law on the topic after teaching his own son to never pee standing up.  No one is interviewed to directly challenge this proposed law, and instead the video cuts to a 1970s feminist who believes that modern feminism has started going too far.

H/T Red Pill Christianity

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55 Responses to Of course they aren’t changing girls to boys and boys to girls.

  1. Anonymous Reader says:

    Dalrock
    The lie is paper thin, and all pretext of feminists wanting to allow children to “be as they are” is casually discarded when it isn’t useful.

    Of course. Because how else to provide the fried ice they want so desperately?

    100+ years ago it was common in parts of Europe and the Anglosphere for toddlers of both sexes to wear gowns / smocks / dresses. That’s back when all diapers were made of cloth and held in place with safety pins, so dealing with a diaper blowout was a little bigger deal than now. There are photos in my family that show known boys of 3 in a dress. I think that’s the age where the transition to short pants began.

    Plenty of men in other cultures wear robes that are a lot like dresses, but of course that stuff isn’t practical in cold climates, and frankly it’s a different culture entirely. So this woman is just being stupid, and babying her son IMO.

    No one is interviewed to directly challenge this proposed law, and instead the video cuts to a 1970s feminist who believes that modern feminism has started going too far.

    Totally predictable, just as I’m sure WW II generation women insisted 1970’s feminism had started ‘going too far” at some point. Doesn’t mean much, though, because words are not actions.

    Putting on The Glasses, I spy Swedish women who are attempting to feminize the men around them in order to have an adequate supply of Beta Orbiters. Success in that effort will lead to the complaints of a lack of attractive, masculine men. No worries, just import some more from the MIddle East…

    Men “become”, women “are”. This Manosphere truth goes pretty deep into our hindbrains.

  2. vfm7916 says:

    I note that there was a massive backlash when the feminists in charge of Sweden wanted to shut down the teaching of ancient history.

    I also note that 1 in 4 Swedish women are afraid of going outside alone for fear of rape by Immivaders.

    Sweden is not much different than the US in that there’s a massive undercurrent that despises the fruits of feminism, but because it’s been loaded up on fear porn and cherry picked virtue signaling news stories it rarely expresses itself.

    This story is VSP: virtue signaling porn.

    There is indeed something for you to do instead of feeling helpless and full of fear.
    Don’t fear women. Don’t fear marriage. Don’t fear having children. Don’t fear teaching them what is good, beautiful, and true. Prepare and train yourself to accomplish these things, and don’t let the peddlers of fear porn dissuade you.

  3. Funny how in the same video there is first a politician talking of his law proposal to require men to pee in a sitting position, and later on a woman talking about something else and condescendingly saying “that is question of democracy”.

    Funny how yesterday I was aggressively catcalled by four girls as I was leaving the supermarket, only two walk 10 metres and see one of these “my name is not hey lady” signs painted on the sidewalk.

    Funny how during that episode I felt on the receiving end of the “power struggle between men and women” the former feminist in the video talks about.

  4. kaminsky says:

    Sweden in 1980 must have been about the pinnacle of what a country can be. (I wasn’t there, so correct me if I’m wrong). Healthy, strong, fit, multilingual, super-educated, attractive, zero crime, professional, clean, hard-working, well-rounded people. About as good as a country gets. Feminists took over for various reasons. The year 2030, Sweden is projected to be an officially classified 3rd world country. That’s by the UN’s estimate, not some conservative think tank. The leftist UN has every motivation to NOT come to that conclusion but they couldn’t deny it. So in 50 years, (arguably 30), the Swedish matriarchy ruined a country. And it wasn’t just some normal, flawed country. It was arguably one of the best ever.

    This is female leadership.

  5. William of Orange County says:

    Deep in the subconscious of the female id-beast is the gnawing ever-present fear of masculinity and realization of their inferiority to men. They understand implicitly that they cannot make the world. The artificial structure of the buildings that surround them and the streets that they walk on and the animals that were domesticated thousands of years ago that she currently keeps as a pet couldn’t be built or made by anything with a vagina. And the absence of those things as taken back to a state of nature is even more terrifying. The id-beast also understands that taken to the most fundamental level her one and only redeeming quality is her procreative ability and its use to enlist the assistance she so desperately needs to survive.

    Masculinity is terrifying to them. They have to put the boys in dresses. They have to shame and tame and break the norms to placate the beast. Some of this is conscious but most is subconscious.

    I take hope that the damage they’re doing is temporary. It can’t and it won’t last. And it will serve as yet another lesson in a long story for future generations.

  6. Opus says:

    I wonder what Sweden is like now. In those days at least until his untimely murder the Swedish Prime Minister would go out of an evening in Stockholm unaccompanied save by his wife. When I was there I then formed the view that the men were entirely pathetic. Had my then girlfriend lived not in Sweden but Saudi Arabia (say) I would not be here to tell the story – that of her ex (?) boyfriend in the far north of the country not merely inviting me in to spend the winter night in his apartment but offering me the master bedroom (which I should have declined) and which he knew well enough I had been utilising for the previous two weeks in rogering his (?) girlfriend (not that I then knew that it was his apartment), yet this man was a tall good-looking and obviously only too decent guy who surely could have had his choice of females. I peed standing up – indeed that was also one of his girlfriend’s specialities. The horror – in Sweden.

    Jeg elsker deg. I think that was what she used to say to me. I have not returned.

  7. locustsplease says:

    Honestly this could have been me. My father had custody of me because my mom ran off with fling and just didnt want to put any effort into parenting im talkimg about bitching about taking us to school! She is the highest grade of feminist psycho.

    I see these boys raised by single moms and they are injecting them to change them to girls they are 5. They dress them like girls do everything they can to turn them to a trans to impress their liberal friends. My mom would have done it no doubt. If she had custody and i grew up in these times she would have marched me out first she hates my dad that much!

    My mom divorced my dad 30 years ago and bitches about him like it was yesterday. He didnt cater to her feelings enough funny cause she caters to no ones feelings and it typically flat out nasty.

  8. Dalrock says:

    @vfm7916

    I note that there was a massive backlash when the feminists in charge of Sweden wanted to shut down the teaching of ancient history.

    I also note that 1 in 4 Swedish women are afraid of going outside alone for fear of rape by Immivaders.

    Sweden is not much different than the US in that there’s a massive undercurrent that despises the fruits of feminism, but because it’s been loaded up on fear porn and cherry picked virtue signaling news stories it rarely expresses itself.

    The most immediate problem is the conservative reflex (the same one you demonstrate so aptly in your comment) to ensure that normal people aren’t outraged as SJWs corrupt our children and our culture. Vulnerable young boys are being taught to cross dress, and your focus is assuring us that all is well.

  9. Lost Patrol says:

    Of course they aren’t changing girls to boys and boys to girls.

    Of course not. That would be a crazy amount of effort just to get back to the original starting point. What’s needed is something in between those two social constructs. Some kind of boygirl/girlboy.

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/30/swedish-armed-forces-celebrates-pride-with-rainbow-camo-we-stand-up-for-the-values-we-are-tasked-with-defending/

  10. Novaseeker says:

    Vulnerable young boys are being taught to cross dress, and your focus is assuring us that all is well.

    I’d say his focus is on steering every single comment thread in one very specific direction, and at the earliest opportunity.

  11. vandicus says:

    Canaan delenda est.

  12. TheTraveler says:

    In the early 70s, there was a very “woke” children’s record. Garbage feminism at its worst. The obnoxious feminist song, “Anything you can do, I can do better”– even as a second grader I understood it was putting down boys.

    The most memorable was another song: “William wants a doll.” Mean, evil adults, including his nasty parents, were stopping him. Until a woke voice of so-called reason shamed everyone, and William got his doll. As a kid, I remember thinking that I couldn’t care less if William had a doll–but that he was what, as a grownup, I’d call a p*ssy, and I wanted nothing to do with him.

  13. Dalrock says:

    @Novaseeker

    I’d say his focus is on steering every single comment thread in one very specific direction, and at the earliest opportunity.

    This is true, but his MO has been consistently to redirect attention away from the destruction of our family and culture wrought by feminism and SJWs to the real problem, MGTOWs. All is well, except for those weak men screwing feminism up. This is standard Trad Con boilerplate, and he needs to go to remedial minion school. Vox occasionally takes shots at MGTOWs, but when Vox sees young boys being preyed upon by perverts his instinct isn’t to change the subject to men who won’t marry. If he tried the same nonsense at Vox’s blog he would be banned instantly.

  14. 7817 says:

    The most immediate problem is the conservative reflex (the same one you demonstrate so aptly in your comment) to ensure that normal people aren’t outraged as SJWs corrupt our children and our culture. Vulnerable young boys are being taught to cross dress, and your focus is assuring us that all is well.

    I’d say we’re entering into Sodom and Gomorrah territory. That being said, adding despair to all the rest of the sins we are guilty of will not help at all. It is not despair to tell the truth about the ways SJW’s are corrupting our culture at all, we need to know what’s happening. If the conclusion is to throw up our hands and give up, that’s just as much sin as the conservative reflex.

  15. Dalrock says:

    @7817

    It is not despair to tell the truth about the ways SJW’s are corrupting our culture at all, we need to know what’s happening. If the conclusion is to throw up our hands and give up, that’s just as much sin as the conservative reflex.

    Concern troll is concerned. None of the posts vfm7916 has hijacked were me throwing up my hands. He is obsessed with changing the subject from what the SJWs are doing, and redirecting to MGTOWs.

    Incidentally, he can test my theory about how quick Vox would ban him for doing the same there on Vox’s most recent post, which concludes with:

    Never fear, Bert and Ernie can adopt her after getting gay-married, right? Nothing is safe anymore. Pop culture is filth.

  16. Jim says:

    The most immediate problem is the conservative reflex (the same one you demonstrate so aptly in your comment) to ensure that normal people aren’t outraged as SJWs corrupt our children and our culture. Vulnerable young boys are being taught to cross dress, and your focus is assuring us that all is well.

    Yup. Isn’t it hilarious how much these VD Cultists sound like the very cuckservatives they allegedly despise when it comes to cunts? That’s why all they have is lies, insults and shaming language. It’s become almost a kind of parody. Comedy gold.

    As for Sweden? And all of this is happening, why? Well, that’s what happens when to a nation that become gynocentric. Not surprising in the least. If they don’t put the cunts in their place by force then Sweden in finished.

  17. 7817 says:

    Concern troll is concerned. None of the posts vfm7916 has hijacked were me throwing up my hands. He is obsessed with changing the subject from what the SJWs are doing, and redirecting to MGTOWs.

    Absolutely everything is not about mgtows, I agree completely.

    You know how committed I am to the opposing the conservative reflex. There is no way for me to prove that further then the way I already did.

    I have never seen you throw up your hands Dalrock, and I’m not accusing you of that. If, however, you can’t see that the mgtows equally spread their despair around in threads, with no rebuttal other than a few, I don’t know what to tell you.

    This is your establishment, you get to make the rules. I agree threads shouldn’t be trolled off topic, as per your 100 post rule.

  18. Anonymous Reader says:

    High Value Day Game
    Funny…

    Easily explained. “It’s different when we do it”. Women and feminized men have high tolerance for cognitive dissonance.

  19. Anonymous Reader says:

    Kaminsky
    So in 50 years, (arguably 30), the Swedish matriarchy ruined a country.

    More like 70, the seeds were in the ground back in the 1950’s. Sweden was neutral in the 20th century World War, both 1.0 and 2.0, but the leadership prior to 1950 was very pragmatic and even hard nosed. Norway was invaded and occupied by the Germans in 1940, Finland was invaded by the Soviets in 1939 and went back to war against the USSR in 1941 – 45.

    No Swedish cities were bombed or even occupied, and sales of high quality Taconite iron ore continued for most of that war (to the Germans). Sweden profited from war. I speculate that this left some complicated effects on the mindset of Swedish elites.

    Look at some of the 1950’s Swedish movies, in particular Seventh Seal, pay attention to not just the stories but the subcommunications. 7th Seal has been a college-course standard since the 1960’s, although not so much any more. Is it nihilistic? Something else?

    One thing is sure, women in certain branches of government is a slow motion disaster.

  20. Anonymous Reader says:

    Lost Patrol
    Some kind of boygirl/girlboy.

    Androgyny has been in and out of fashion with feministas for years, I guess since the 1970’s. Girls like it because they can pretend to be “one of the guys”, but then after a while they get tired of it because the male / female polarity is minimized, so they get all girly for a while.

    No doubt, though, that androgyny is one “solution” to the problem of two different sexes.

  21. Anonymous Reader says:

    As of 2017 the Total Fertility Rate (TFR) in Sweden was 1.88. Just saying.

    https://www.indexmundi.com/sweden/total_fertility_rate.html

  22. PokeSalad says:

    There is indeed something for you to do instead of feeling helpless and full of fear.

    …like not listen to your constant, annoying, virtue-signaling blather to “Man up and wife those wenches.” Its long past its sell-by date by now. Give your little neo-con gland a rest for a while, its earned it.

  23. Marquess, Autoorchiectomy Mach 3 says:

    If I had to guess, I’d say the proximal focus is more BEFORE YOU SHUT UP, CRAWL INTO A DITCH AND DIE, YOU WILL MAN UP AND SUPPORT MY DAUGHTER (AND MY DAUGHTER’S SON) AND PAY MY SOCIAL SECURITY AND KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AND PROTECT ME IN MY DOTAGE FROM THE MASSING DUSKY HORDES AND DONT YOU EVER, EVER EVEN, THINK, OF DECLINING TO SACRIFICE YOUR TIME, ATTENTION, RESOURCES, AND INDIVIDUAL INTERESTS TO SECURE MY POSTERITY YOU BALL-LESS, BLACKPILLED, NOODLE-ARMED, SKINNY JEAN-WEARING, SON-OF-A-WHORE OMICRON CUCKCEL TRAITOR FAGGOTS. DID I FORGET TO MENTION YOU ARE FAGGOTS? YOU ARE FAGGOTS. GIVE ME MONEY. ALSO, BUY GILETTE.

  24. TBF very small boys did use to wear dresses up until 100-150 years ago. Putting on breeches for the first time (“breeching”) was a big coming-of-age ritual done at 3-5 y.o., sort of like Japanese shichi-go-san. For instance, here’s a photo of FDR at age 2:

    But of course putting on breeches only emphasized that they were now men and expected to (begin to) behave accordingly, 180 degrees from what is being done today.

  25. scarletlagomorph says:

    I have never seen you throw up your hands Dalrock, and I’m not accusing you of that. If, however, you can’t see that the mgtows equally spread their despair around in threads, with no rebuttal other than a few, I don’t know what to tell you.

    All men, even those that will inevitably enter into marriage, need to be at least realistic if not a little cynical about the social institution of marriage. Whether or not one considers it divinely instituted or sacramental in its essence, it has been turned into one of the chiefest tools of ambush for those that wish to destroy men. I can’t speak for the proprietor but you might consider that whilst I’m reasonably sure that he doesn’t agree with monk types or any species of gender segregation, at least MGTOWs don’t stick fingers in their ears and whistle Always Look At The Bright Side of Your Life.

  26. vfm7916 says:

    I tend to post early because I’m usually online when you put up a new post.

    I enjoy the dissections of chivalry and complementarianism. In between there’s always lots of “Look, here’s another bad thing!” I post what I post because any given discussion is usually off the rails down the “Don’t get married” and “Fear women” rabbit hole within 20 comments. The difference you noted is that while anyone can choose MGTOW, “crawl away and die quietly” is the moral thing to do rather than blackpill. The Dark Lord was rather explicit about that.

    The stance of the Dark Lord on marriage is well known: Get Married. Have Children. Does anyone doubt this? Would you hang the appellation of “TradCon” on the Supreme Dark Lord? Don’t hang it on me either, as I’m a Christian Nationalist.

    SJW’s are easy to spot. They’re easy to call out. They’re easy to criticize. Just as men are easy to call out and criticize by complementarians. As noted in regard to conservatives in the next post about the fruits of chivalry, they’re out virtue signaling at every opportunity. All those things are easy to see and do.

    What’s not easy is to call out those that are responsible but have a seemingly moral highground. That’s feminist women in churches and those who chant “Don’t get married” in the ‘sphere in our context. If there’s any point to pointing out the destruction of Christianity through complementarianism and chivalry, it should be “Get married, have children, and teach them not to do that shit.

    You call out the bad, but you don’t say or reinforce what the good, beautiful, or true is. I miss that.

    The Dark Lord bans as he wills, but I’d never comment there as I do here. There’s never a need for it.

  27. Jacob says:

    The Swedish lie is boilerplate feminism. Feminism does not provide anywhere within its ideological framework a theoretical end to the pursuit of power for women. In defining women as a class the oppressed and men as a class the oppressor, it is driven by the never-ending pursuit of power for women. It’s an entirely self-defined premise. It can’t exist without wholly accepting that premise. If equality is ever reached and there is no more perceived oppression the ideology and the entire global industry that is built on it disintegrates. Thus, if facts don’t affirm the premise, the facts are changed until they do. Even when men become the Second Sex and the oppression of men is everywhere egregious and blatant, the pursuit of power for women and the lies it has to tell to ensure the survival of its ideology must continue, and even get stronger and more obvious. Susan B Anthony summed it up well: “women’s rights nothing less, men’s rights nothing more”. It was never about equality or equity or whatever new goalpost-shift tilts the narrative in its favor. It was despotic from the very beginning and will never stop of its own accord. It must go the way of all despots or it will keep on getting worse.

  28. Anonymous Reader says:

    I post what I post because any given discussion is usually off the rails down the “Don’t get married” and “Fear women” rabbit hole within 20 comments.

    Especially when you make a point to troll for flames in the first few comments, in you usual contentious manner.

  29. Jason says:

    So why don’t they just buy the kid a kilt instead? There’s no shortage of masculinity in Scotland (at least I haven’t heard of such a thing). I’m predicting a massive escalation in the parricide/matricide and suicide numbers in Sweden starting about 10 or 15 years from now.

  30. Anonymous Reader says:

    @Jacob

    A fundamental premise of feminism is the interchangeable nature of men and women. This can be rewritten as “Men and women are exactly the same except for boobs and babies”. It’s an extreme “blank slate” ideology, and it’s embedded in all Western societies.

    I don’t know how long feministas have been trying to raise “gender neutral” or androgynous children, but for sure it’s been going on 30 years, probably more like 40, maybe 50. It always fails, and every few years some article pops up about a feminista who can’t understand why her daughter keeps using toy trucks as baby strollers, or why her son persists in making guns out of sticks and hauling dirt in the baby stroller.

    As long as this extremely bogus premise persists we’ll have nonsense such as this Swedish abuse of children, especially boys. Some expect it to be exploded soon, but so far nothing even close is happening. Studies of men and women continue to show all manner of differences, but it’s not registering.

  31. Opus says:

    There is a movie (Doctor in Distress 1963) in which there is towards the end a scene wherein our hero (played by Homo actor Dirk Bogarde in a dubious and frankly unconvincing impersonation of a Hetero) goes to his ex-girlfriend’s apartment now occupied by a young Swedish woman played by the lovely and gamine Mylene Demengeot (who did not need to apply white-face for the part). She is wearing a top and shorts and with short blond hair. She has just literally thrown her hunk of a boyfriend out and down the stairs. She takes a liking to the rather fey Bogarde and shows off her muscles and then goes off to pour for him a glass of water – water is cleansing, she explains as if she were Greta Thurnberg. In the meanwhile the hunk returns to pick up some dumbbells. Borgarde offers to assist but finds he has not the required strength. The Swedish girl returns and demonstrates how she has no difficulty picking up the dumbbells, The hunk gone she suggests that Bogarde removes his trousers. He demures and suggests that if as she says in Sweden everyone removes the “trouserings” that she should go first. She agrees and the scene fades. This is not I think an entirely false view of young Swedish females. Physically, Demengeot is exactly right. It is true the Swedes wear leggings to keep away the cold when outdoors and on entering a house remove the “trouserings”. My Swedish gf whilst mocking the failed state which was Great Britain and beginning her mocking with reference to our soccer hooligans (world class therein methinks) contrasted that with Sweden where even the bus-stops are centrally heated and where old-ladies (unlike the British) could say the word condom without any form of embarrassment. In the swimming-pool one had to strip-off and take a shower before returning to put on ones swimming-trunks but even as I did so a little old lady – a cleaner – happily wandered around the men’s changing room where I kitted down then up she doing whatever cleaners do.

    A country that produced Ikea, Saab, Abba, Volvo and Tetrapak cannot be entirely useless – Sweden is after all the Scandinavian power-house – but those Abba lyrics are so blue pill that the wonderful Lutheran hymn-tunes (which is what Benny and Bjorn cloth the lyrics with) cannot save the songs from showing that Swedish men are when it comes to women rather tame. Who was the prettiest member of Abba? Was it the one with the beard or the one without? – and why do older Swedish women whether Greta Garbo or Agnetha Falskog want to be alone as if they are a character in a Bergman movie.

    The Swedes are indeed the Eloi and we know who the Morlocks might be.

  32. Javier says:

    Women saying “Maybe this is going to far” are the same as a deadbeat relative who assures you they’re going to get their act together soon and they feel super bad about borrowing more money from you.

    The guilt passes, and you never get the money back.

  33. Lost Patrol says:

    – water is cleansing, she explains as if she were Greta Thurnberg.

    The LOL of this thread.

  34. Jacob says:

    @AR

    It’s the “boobs and babies” thing that puts the lie to feminism as an equality movement. They know women will always have the biological upper hand and this provides the fuel for their megalomania. Equality (of the gender interchangeability kind) is more like a cosmetic face to hide the fact. I don’t think ideological feminists want to be equal to or interchangeable with men, they want to suppress masculine forms in favour of the feminine or neuter as you say. Although the goalposts shift so much it’s hard to know exactly what feminism IS anymore. I don think I’ve met two feminists who believe the same thing. There’s a lot of “your feminism” and “my feminism” in the chatter. For many this just translates to ‘anything-I-want-and-don’t-deserve-but-can-get-because-babies-and-boobs-ism.’

    Feminism is essentially the military wing of women in want. Mileage varies o course.

  35. Karl says:

    @Dalrock:

    For the record, Google Translate is wrong. “Kalle” is not “skull,” it’s just a name. It’s the standard Swedish nickname for Karl, so “Kalle med klänning” translates to “Karl with dress”

    (It’s a very common Swedish custom to use standardized nicknames for people, and they are usually five letters long and end with ‘e’ for some reason. For example Rickard becomes Rille, Daniel becomes Danne, Jonatan becomes Jonte, Tobias becomes Tobbe, and so on.)

  36. @Jason I forget who wrote some years ago that feminists *hate* Scotchmen in kilts, because they are unequivocal and unapologetic about being men.

  37. white says:

    @Javier

    Every woman has her “maybe this has gone too far” moment. Most get it at older ages 50+, some get it younger. It makes no difference though, once they awaken they decide to do nothing becos no women ever got catharsis over male suffering. At most she looks at the feminist kids and lecture them about how “things were better back then”, but it’s self-defence to make herself feel morally superior. If she awakens before 30/35 she will play the tradcon women to get herself sexual attention, but again her goal is to benefit herself while enjoying the fruits of feminsim. There will never be any outrage, any action. She will never start a hashtag, she will never start any petitions. She will never start a fundraiser, no campaigns to “raise awareness”.

    I highly encourage you guys to speak more to the oldest catgory of women (75+). Pry them about their beliefs, and hopefully you’ll see just how these “nice older ladies” are really still feminist through and through. (1st/2nd wave) And how much they completely see and comprehend the misandry in our current society, yet they can’t be bothered to do anything about it. Had it been “misogyny” in her time though…. oh boy…

  38. Bart says:

    @white makes a useful point about the somewhat veiled radicalism of elderly women. Through work and family, I’ve interacted with many of them over the years, and early on I was surprised to discover that these women who grew up in “traditional” times and benefited from strong men and families were just as feminist as any 20-something. They don’t know the latest lingo or pet cause, but many would push for the same general principles as any blue-haired SJW —they just lacked the opportunity.

  39. Anonymous Reader says:

    Karl
    For the record, Google Translate is wrong. “Kalle” is not “skull,” it’s just a name.

    Too bad. I was just thinking that “skull in a dress” would be an interesting name for a metal band.

  40. white says:

    @Bart
    It’s not so much that they lack the opportunity. Feminism has just progressed beyond the point she’s comfortable with. In other words, she realizes that it has “gone too far”. What’s chilling is that she’s aware, but she can’t be bothered to do anything about it.

  41. Minesweeper says:

    @white says: “It’s not so much that they lack the opportunity. Feminism has just progressed beyond the point she’s comfortable with. In other words, she realizes that it has “gone too far”. What’s chilling is that she’s aware, but she can’t be bothered to do anything about it.”

    Well that would involve her taking on the 3rd\4th wave feminists (as she is a 2nd wave).

    In 25 years from now, the 3rd wavers will be shaking their head at just how far the 4th wave have taken it. And 25 years after that the 4th wave will be doing that to the 5th wave and so on.

    I do wonder at what will be the feminist wave that tips society into full collapse, as it seems to have a way to go yet, despite all our predictions to the contrary.

    But then the financial system looked robust, solid and untouchable before its collapse.

  42. white says:

    @Minesweeper

    >”I do wonder at what will be the feminist wave that tips society into full collapse, as it seems to have a way to go yet, despite all our predictions to the contrary.”

    I’ve heard a theory that feminists are slow to respond to opportunities, not becos they are dumb (and they ARE slow. It took them a decade to realize social media can be used to remove due process from men.) but rather it is a deliberate, calculated decision (by feminist elites, not the dumb feminist masses) to not push men beyond their tipping point. So for example, if #MeToo were to happen in 2007, men would riot/strike/take up arms instead of going along with it. But because feminists delayed till 2017 to unleash #MeToo, men are now insulated enough to still grumble, but ultimately accept the new status quo.

    So perhaps the turning point would be to help push feminism beyond what current society could bear? Instead of waiting for 2027 for #WivesToo to unleash, we can help start it now! I know for a fact even my most white knight married friends would go berserk if #WivesToo happens tomorrow.

    Think about it. “Marital Rape” is already a thing. There are lots of wives who resent their husbands. What’s stopping #WivesToo from happening in the future? What better way to prepare for a divorce, then publicly lynching your husband online for all the times he has touched you inappropriately? All it takes is for feminists to pick up on it, and unleash it on society when society is ready.

    Yeah it’s a wild idea, but what have we got to lose? Beats watching wave after wave of feminism come and go.

  43. American says:

    This is but a fart in the wind, a temporary period of time that this even exists for when the Muslims whom the Swedes imported to replace them finally put Sweden under forcible Islamic law it’s all gone: all of it.

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  45. Opus says:

    Is it right and is it proper that the winner of the Nobel Prizes should always be chosen by Swedes? Where is the democracy in that when you know that they are always going to be biased against Norwegians. Did they award Ibsen a Nobel Prize? No, they did not. You see what I mean.

    I am put in mind of this by the very recent demise of a former member of the Nobel committee for Lit a woman who amazingly was not blond by the name of Sara Darius. Mrs Darius held two Doctorates including one from your Duke University so you can tell as girls often do that she did a lot of reading. She resigned her seat from the committee of which she was the chairpersonwoman by reason of a scandal where a Swedish man and convicted Raaaaaypist (Swedish Rape is not real rape I seem to recall from J.Assange) had been married to another female member of the committee. It was said she had handled the episode poorly. The rules of the Nobel seem labarynthine but so far as I can tell so many members resigned there were not enough members left to form a quorum to elect new members which was why last years Nobel for Lit was not awarded. The Nobel committees seem determined to award some very strange prizes to your fellow countrymen: to B.H. Obama for being black and to R. Zimmerman for being Bob Dylan. Strange.

  46. E says:

    ‘Kalle med klänning’ is Swedish for ‘Little Carl with (a) dress’. As ‘Dalrock med (en) dålig översättning’ would be ‘Dalrock with (a) bad translation’. Kalle is diminutive of Carl or Karl. It’s a name, a pronoun, not a noun.

    Whoever translated Kalle to Skull fails to pass for a Swede. Skalle, however, is skull.

    Opus, do not mix rape-rape with crimethink-rape. The former is a thing, and the latter is a journalistic and rhetorical smear tactic. The former is about flesh and blood and bones, and the latter is the feministic version of a fatwah. If you’re trying to be a free man, you ought to be able to spot praise and blame in other’s code-language.

  47. Dalrock’s post inspired me to further explore this movement to put Boys in Dresses. It’s a useful demonstration of the next phase of feminism, and a reminder that only our passivity allows its advance.

    Our boys are lab rats in a social engineering experiment.
    https://fabiusmaximus.com/2019/10/13/our-boys-are-lab-rats-in-a-social-engineering-experiment/

    Summary: A marvel of our age is our willingness to enlist our children in radical social engineering experiments. If they fail, we will be judged harshly. By the boys most of all. We will have no excuses.

  48. Marquess of Drank, Ghost Ridin the Benny Hinn Concorde says:

    these women who grew up in “traditional” times and benefited from strong men and families were just as feminist as any 20-something

    The boomer distaff I encounter are, more often than not, such avid cheerleaders of sterile, you-go-guuurl, fish-bicycle sex-role crossdressing and licentiousness in their granddaughters, it’d make Gloria Steinem blush.

    I play mental bingo while they ramble on:

    “[not a] Stepford Wife*”
    “she’s visiting [Sodom]”
    “next spring, going to [Gomorrah]”
    “recruited out of school to be a… [spay-odalisque, business-casual, propert^H^H^H valued team member of Globohomo Mudplex, Inc. a Fortune 500 Company]”
    “PhD”
    “MD”
    Conditional:
    nubile – “[vicarious agony aunt “dating” anecdote humblebrag, wink wink nudge nudge. bonus wince for mention of hipster bar scene, instagram or other slagtention apps]”
    senile – “puppy/contingency soygoy neuter-companion”
    sessile – “IVF”

    YESSS! Bingo! I win! I win. What did I win? Oh… shit, I lost.

    It really is a breath of fresh air when you encounter an old school chick. Or, at least one who manages to talk a good game. They’re on their way out, though; usually ancient and fading.

    Where have all the Yiayias gone?

    * I hear this one a lot, verbatim. Very effective agitprop, decades on.

  49. Spike says:

    The Left always lies. Women always lie.
    Of course they don’t want boys to turn into girls. Of course a boy is more comfortable playing soccer in a pink dress (not shirtless, which is what most boys and men do). Of course boys can pee standing up – except where women force boys to sit down. Of course French bus drivers are more comfortable in skirts in hot weather, which is (reportedly) a clothing option for them (despite buses being air conditioned).

    Sweden also had nuclear power and ran 7 multinational companies profitably using cheap nuclear power. They have since been phasing it out. Those multinationals have long since left and Sweden is in a downward spiral. it has already gone from 7th largest world economy to 15th. By 2030 it will be the 41st – behind Libya and Greece. That’s by UN estimates.

    Take a bow, Sweden and Swedish feminists. You are so Progressive you went backwards.

  50. Karl says:

    @E:

    Kalle is a nickname for Karl, as I mentioned above, though it’s not a diminutive. It’s just a regular nickname.

    By the way, names are nouns, and not pronouns. They are proper nouns, though, rather than common nouns. Is that what you were thinking of?

    Ok, getting off my soapbox. 🙂

  51. Spike says:

    There is a logic to this.
    Every livestock farmer knows that on farms, herds are female. They are docile productive units. Productive that is, in terms of producing more livestock, eggs, wool, milk or whatever it is.
    Males are sold off early as broilers, prime lamb, calf / veal, suckling pig, depending on the market. The rest of the males are castrated to become steers, geldings or wethers.

    A few choice male animals are kept as breeding stock.

    Animal husbandry is the practice of assuring a farm remains productive and herds quiet and unstressed so that productivity and economic gain is maximised.
    If you substitute “elites” for “farmers” , “women” for herds and women’s fantasy men as breeding stock, you get to perfectly understand that we are slowly being “farmed” by the elites. You will also understand the decline of marriage (previous social organisation) and the necessity of drugging, feminising and ultimately castrating the majority of males. Their suicide for a society the elites plan are mere crocodile tears.

    It is a totalitarian ideology that will enslave us all.

  52. Marquess of Drank, Ghost Ridin the Benny Hinn Concorde says:

    That should have read “in their granddaughters and younger daughters.” The granddaughters will probably require reproductive assistance, given their lifestyles and all the industrial-strength reproductive hormones they’ve been gobbling since puberty, but they’re not yet aware of the problem.

    My cohort also includes late silents; pre-boomer boomers. They arr boomah. Arr rook same. Arr act same. Arr mass-mediaized, godless degenerate running dog.

    It’s easy to forget that castrating the boys– literally, sometimes, incredibly, sadly– is phase two.

    Phase one was “gender”-bending the girls into corporate transeunuchs living the gay-disco lifestyle. Only with cocktails, netflix and snapchat instead of poppers, cocaine and conveniently-placed dumpsters. In progress since the 60’s or 70’s, at the latest. Oddly, it doesn’t seem to really bother that many people, at least overtly– including the eunuchs themselves! I don’t remember much in the way of push-back, either. Instead, you see so many proud, preening cuck dads out there.

  53. Dale U says:

    7817 wrote If the conclusion is to throw up our hands and give up, that’s just as much sin as the conservative reflex.

    Your claim that giving up is sin is foolish.
    First, only God can categorize something as sin. So if you think giving up in an impossible scenario is sin, show a reference from Scripture. Here, I’ll start you off with one, from Amos 5:11-15; pay attention to verse 13.
    11
    Therefore because you trample on[a] the poor
    and you exact taxes of grain from him,
    you have built houses of hewn stone,
    but you shall not dwell in them;
    you have planted pleasant vineyards,
    but you shall not drink their wine.
    12
    For I know how many are your transgressions
    and how great are your sins—
    you who afflict the righteous, who take a bribe,
    and turn aside the needy in the gate.
    13
    Therefore he who is prudent will keep silent in such a time,
    for it is an evil time.

    14
    Seek good, and not evil,
    that you may live;
    and so the Lord, the God of hosts, will be with you,
    as you have said.
    15
    Hate evil, and love good,
    and establish justice in the gate;
    it may be that the Lord, the God of hosts,
    will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph.

  54. Red Pill Christianity says:

    Think back when you were 7, 10, or even 12 years old. What were young concerns then? LEGOs? TV shows you liked? Ice cream? Video games? Comic books?

    No wonder everyone was so nostalgic about the pre-2000s. The 90s and 80s were simpler times, life was much more sensible. Do you ever remember some teacher telling little boys to try on pink dresses back then? Or some little girl being asked if she really is a little boy inside?

    Today, kids as young as 5 are being asked to “test out other genders”, interact with Transvestites at “story-time at the public library”, and to figure out their “gender identity” and declare it in class. Kids as young as 5 are having their genitals mutilated, many times under court order, because some little boy likes playing with dolls or because some little likes playing with shovels and “must be a different gender”. It is so absurd, a more sane society of just a few years ago would have been horrified at this type of abuse.

    Human historians will hopefully look back on this “transgendering” of children under age 12 and will weep in shame. It will be like the Germans who knew mass murders were occurring in their cities at extermination camps and did nothing and said nothing. Or the Islamist empires which for 1,000 years made slavery their primary form of traded goods across the world. Or people who purposely infected other healthy humans with diseases to test out cures, etc. Unethical and despicable behavior like that, which is viewed as barbaric today.

    This abuse of children, demanding they “pick their gender” at such young ages (5-12), will be a stain on this place in human history, that we had such a depraved group of people, the Left, who pushed for “gender identity” of little kids. It will be viewed as a horrific form child abuse.

    At least I hope so…. But who knows, maybe this filthy depravity will be so normal then no one will care. At least I can hope Christians will continue to condemn such barbarity, even if they have to do so in total secrecy due to “hate speech laws”.

  55. Red Pill Christianity says:

    Not even 15 years ago, the parents of this little boy (if we can still call him that?) would be literally in handcuffs for child abuse and neglect. No wonder there is so much nostalgia for the pre-2000s ear when the world was much more sane. They say “life was simpler then”. They mean sane, really.

    Not purposely trying to make little boys into little girls? Please.

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