Do our Social Justice Warriors deserve the best money can buy?

Stephen Green* at Instapundit linked to a fear mongering piece at Business Insider this afternoon:

GULP: Navy SEAL who oversaw the bin Laden raid says China’s massive military buildup is a ‘holy s—‘ moment.

From the linked article:

China’s technological strategy and innovation are serious threats to US national security — now, according to retired Adm. William McRaven, the US has reached a ‘holy s—” moment and needs to invest more significantly in technology research and development to keep its edge.

Whenever military leaders declare that without further military spending our security is in danger I think of Instapundit host Glenn Reynolds’ great line about global warming:

I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people who tell me it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.

Our military leaders are fully on board with using the military to promote a social agenda at the expense of war-fighting ability.  In this regard, their actions betray a sense that they are so superior to any potential adversary that they can afford to indulge in frivolity, no matter what their words might claim.

I wasn’t familiar with Adm. William McRaven, so I thought I would see if he was the exception to the rule.  He is not.  From Buzzfeed back in 2014, U.S. Special Operations Chief Wants More Women, Minorities In The Ranks:

Adm. William McRaven, head of U.S. Special Operations Command and architect of the Osama Bin Laden raid, is spearheading an effort to get more women and minorities into America’s elite combat units.

So rest easy.  There is no crisis here.

*Interestingly it was another post by Stephen Green which first caused me to think this back in 2016.

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78 Responses to Do our Social Justice Warriors deserve the best money can buy?

  1. See a new description of the real crisis in the military:

    “Stand Down: How Social Justice Warriors Are Sabotaging America’s Military.”
    By James Hasson (Captain, US Army, retired).

    https://fabiusmaximus.com/2019/09/19/review-of-stand-down/

  2. Wood Chipper says:

    Excellent point. Judge them by their pathetic actions, not their panic inducing words.

  3. Lost Patrol says:

    Whenever military leaders declare that without further military spending our security is in danger…

    I’m going to venture that this declaration is and has been perpetual, and hope someone can show that once there was a military leader that said “everything is A-OK, we’re trained, equipped, and ready for any contingency right now based on our current budget. No additional funds needed apart from those already allocated”. It is to laugh derisively.

    Adm. William McRaven, head of U.S. Special Operations Command and architect of the Osama Bin Laden raid, is spearheading an effort to get more women and minorities into America’s elite combat units.

    McRaven is an intelligent man. Very capable. Admirals and generals tend to be smart people. They are also, to a greater or lesser extent, swamp creatures. It is the only way to get and hold the job.

  4. locustsplease says:

    Absolutely anything to keep your eyes off what they are doing in your own nation, town, church. Like america has ever or will b invaded. I look back on ww2 what is the chance germany could have ever invaded and controlled our country. Our govt is a complete useless waste. Fire 95% of the people besides police and fire and you would never notice a thing. They are there to serve themselves lots of cash and benefits.

  5. The Question says:

    One of the problems with a peacetime military is military officers have to play the political game if they want to advance. No officer is ever withheld a promotion for advocating more military spending.

    However, a Naval officer will get stuck with an assignment in the middle of Kansas if he advocates removing females from the ranks.

    Hate to be the one to say it, but even if the U.S. would rather launch nukes against China than actually admit a mistake and change its gender policy in order to win a conventional war.

  6. Anon says:

    ‘minorities’

    I thought blacks are overrepresented in the US military, including in the officer ranks. Which ‘minorities’ are underrepresented?

    Asians? Well, then why are Asians being denied Ivy League admissions in order to favor groups less qualified for admission than them?

  7. Anon says:

    It is true that since 1980, China has wasted almost zero of its own troops or money on military adventures beyond its own borders.

    The US, by contrast, has spent, what $10 Trillion?

    Why do we even need bases in the other hemisphere, at this point? We are separated by oceans on both sides, and ‘threats to our allies’ are not our problem, per se. How about not wasting our money, for a change?

  8. Anonymous Reader says:

    Acta non verba.

    Funny how truths of Game apply in so many other areas of life.

  9. Red Pill Latecomer says:

  10. Anonymous Reader says:

    Tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky…

  11. anonymous says:

    You make a good point but the problem is that the U.S. was being weakened on purpose to lose the war they wanted.

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  13. Hazelshade says:

    “The military is for chicks!”

  14. Frank K says:

    I read an article not too long ago about some Russian fighter jets the Chinese copied/ripped off. These are fighters (J-15) intended for China’s aircraft carriers (also Russian designs). To make a long story short, the unauthorized fighter copies just plain don’t work and they end up in the ocean. The situation is so bad that China has started a program to replace them,

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2153803/china-working-new-fighter-jet-aircraft-carriers-replace

    The Chinese are also having trouble exporting their fighter jets, as potential customers instead choose Russian jets instead.

    China is also working on a 737/A320 class airliner, which is scheduled to enter service in a couple of years. So far all sales have been to Chinese airlines.

  15. Truth teller says:

    War Grabblers and Sodomy Grabblers. Still full of lies Grabblers.

  16. Frank K says:

    Excellent point. Judge them by their pathetic actions, not their panic inducing words.

    Exactly. They preach from their Gulfstreams and their air conditioned 15,000 sq ft mansions of which they have more than one).

    The day they move into an A/C free apartment and take the bus, I will take them seriously.

  17. Scott says:

    Drive from one end of Old Ironsides ave to the other (Fort Hood, TX).
    Then make a U-tuen and drive the other way on Hell on Wheels.
    Do the same on Ivy Division.

    What you will see is miles and miles of motorpools filled with medium (wheeled) and heavy (track) vehicles that form the inventory of the 5 ABCTs that are billeted there.

    Then, do the same thing on Battalion ave.

    There you will see building after building that house the support battalions, the gyms, the child and youth services stuff, the photo studio, and on and on. Those buildings are filled with active duty personnel as well DA, DOD and contract civilians. Every one of them believes that what they do for the army is the absolute lynchpin of the entire defense system and without them we would be overrun by terrorists the very next second.

    Multiply that by every active duty military installation all over the world and ask yourself, “what political incentive is there to shrink this?”

    Its really is that simple.

    I have seen a guy (contractor) watering several miles of dead trees way out in the middle of nowhere on post. I asked him about it and he said it was part of the contract, and it didn’t matter that the trees were dead.

    I have worked along multiple alphabet soup agencies all doing the exact same mission and plagiarizing each others work to stay relevant.

    I have witnessed a contract company pull out perfectly good 25MPH signs and replace them with the exact same signs because it was time for them to be replaced.

    The social justice stuff is another pig at the trough. The contractors and make work taskings at the company, battalion and brigade level for EO, SHARP and whatever are preparing briefings and spewing their stupid hate of white, heterosexual Christian males (who make up the bulk of the actual war fighters) because it keeps the money coming or helps them get promoted. Nobody actually believes it.

    This never stops. Not until the wheels fall off the bus.

  18. Asaph says:

    I actually do agree with the admiral. There needs to be more women and minorities in the military. Specifically in the frontline infantry. Especially at times of war. Also, make sure the women there are the types that screech about being equal to men.
    Basically make them walk the walk, instead of just letting them talk the talk

  19. NotaBene says:

    I recommend dropping out of the workforce and being self-employed. Don’t make enough to pay taxes to support watering dead trees, collect all the benefits you can. Works for me. They can’t take what I don’t make. Lead a simple life, work with your hands, avoid female entanglements in the workplace.

  20. American says:

    The Iranian government used to give children little plastic “keys to paradise” and then run them through mine fields to find out where the mines were before their actual troops crossed over. Know how they found out where the mines were? That’s right, the children blew up. But they had that plastic key though.

    America’s SJW radical leftards are so ignorant, indoctrinated, and deceived that if they were given little plastic keys and told the keys turn off “climate change” and disable “racism” in minefields by the professors of leftardology and nutjob fake news media talking heads who deliberately deceived them to accomplish their wicked Marxist one-world totalitarian anti-Christ system, they’d run out into the minefields no questions asked. Right now, today. https://youtu.be/SR-B-ns5rqs

  21. Warthog says:

    But, but, Mr. Bayly says there’s a shortage of men willing to serve, so naturally we must fill the ranks with homos, trannies, snowflakes and lesbians!

  22. Frank K says:

    Basically make them walk the walk, instead of just letting them talk the talk

    All they have to do is get pregnant and they will be sent home. This is why I think that no useful man should ever enlist. When the Generals and Admirals have to tell the President and Congress that there is no one to do the dirty work, then there will have to be a draft. Then we’ll see how the SJW’s and their leftist parents react when they get a letter from Uncle Sam, instructing them to report to boot camp.

    Alas, there is no shortage of fools willing to sign on the dotted line, so our gov’t can continue to pretend that women are men with breasts. And that charade can continue as long as we don’t get into any real wars, which is why we have been posturing and threatening to “bomb, bomb, bomb ,,, bomb bomb Iran”, even though there doesn’t appear to be any real will to do so

  23. Frank K says:

    But, but, Mr. Bayly says there’s a shortage of men willing to serve, so naturally we must fill the ranks with homos, trannies, snowflakes and lesbians!

    Imagine their collective horror upon receiving combat deployment orders. Of course, those who can get pregnant, will get pregnant, and be sent home pronto, where they can no doubt abort their “get out of war card”. The trannies with male reproductive organs will protest that it’s unfair that they are forced to serve,

  24. Dan says:

    You know there is room for both realities in this issue…..China’s rapid and purposeful expansion IS a threat rapidly reaching a crisis level. This fact in no way means that the SJW idiots who have insinuated themselves into every corner of government don’t plan on continuing their SJW push to remake America including the military into a kinder gentler ( and impotent) force. We could do a LOT towards solving the problem of China’s ascendancy by imposing a 100% ban on Chinese students, businessmen and nationals from EVER entering the country. The vast majority of those that come here are SENT by and controlled by Beijing and are here for the express purposes of espionage….both corporate and governmental. Combine this with a total internet quarantine of China….meaning nobody in the US can access any sites in China….and we could prevent much of the hacking and electronic spying that is costing us intellectual property rights. The Chinese….like ALL good communists have NO RULES save one…..WIN! They are actively engaging in economic and social warfare against the USA…..and allowing THEIR people to send literally TONS
    of Fentanyl to Mexico for the purpose of smuggling it into the USA proves that their acts of warfare
    go beyond social and into the very real realm of asymmetric physical warfare. It’s time America woke up to these ugly facts and acted accordingly. China is NOT our friend. They are our ENEMY and are ACTIVELY seeking to destroy us so they can replace us as the ONLY meaningful super power on the planet.

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  26. cynthia says:

    General officer promotions are political. They are political appointees, managed by Congress. This is what happens.

    Under Bush 43, we had eight years of liberal IR policy, the idea that the default state of international politics is peace and that we can make other countries into allies by giving them stuff. Under Obama; we had crippling personnel drawdowns, enforced diversity mandates, and whole bunch of other crap. The general officers who rose up during that time might have been fighting a war their entire careers, but they were beholden by cowards and fools. Anyone who still had a spine after the foolishness of the Bush years was summarily forced out by Obama.

    We have a generation of military leaders who only got to where they are by publicly agreeing with the insanity. Unfortunately, we might be headed back into a conventional peer to peer nation state type conflict, and these idiots are going to get a lot of servicemen killed. Sanity will eventually reassert itself, because it’ll have to, but the damage will be severe.

  27. bigjohn33 says:

    Troops are obselete anyway. We could have an infantry made up entirely of trannies, or women, or children for that matter and it wouldn’t matter one bit in a war with China. They have nukes. And drones. The armed forces are a vestige of the olden days when actual wars were fought with rifles.

    The army isnt made for actual war anymore. Or maybe if it is it is all kept hidden, but the vast majority of the armed forces is not meant for making actual war against a superpower. It’s basically a make work program and the only thing it is good for is policing regime changes in third world shitholes and shooting brown people on behalf of israel.

  28. Cordell says:

    It’s a tempting argument but maybe a little glib. What if China does represent a potential strategic threat, but those in the military who are alarmed by that and want to do something about it still have to show fealty to the egalitarian agenda if they are to retain any influence at all?

  29. ZMAN says:

    The US Military is little more than a massive welfare program to employ those who are not properly trained by the failing and totally inept public indoctrination system known as public schools. Are you a tranny? Fag? Queer? Woman? The US Military wants you and needs you.

    Do you want to go fight thousands of miles away on behalf of Big Oil? Weapons Contractors? International Banking?

    Do you believe that a bunch of Middle Easterners who failed out of flight school were able to fly airplanes into 2 buildings on 9/11 knocking down 3 of them? Do you believe that they actually flew one of the planes into the Pentagon, yet we have never seen any footage of it because the FBI confiscated all of the video of what happened?

    Recently, it was discovered that since the late 90s somewhere around $21 Trillion dollars has disappeared from Pentagon and HUD records. Yes, go join the US Military where women are now leading men. Everything is okay guys, this society is just swell.

    O you know those guys wearing flip-flops and sandals and shooting at you with Russian AK-47’s? They literally live in a country that has been denoted as the Graveyard of Empires and for a good reason. Good luck.

  30. feeriker says:

    GULP: Navy SEAL who oversaw the bin Laden raid says China’s massive military buildup is a ‘holy s—‘ moment.

    A SEAL said this? Clearly, in the two decades since I’ve retired from active naval service, the SEALs have become a sorority of pansies. I can’t recall any SEAL of my acquaintance ever making a public expression of fear or fear-mongering. Then again, to give this guy (I sure HOPE it’s a guy!) the benefit of the doubt, maybe he’s expressing anxiety over the fact that the Chinese are not shitting themselves in terror over the prospect of being attacked by a force of girls, queers, and trannies. That “The Rainbow Military” is not only not inspiring “shock and awe,” but incipient derision is probably what has the defense [sic] establishment on edge.

  31. Stoa says:

    Lost Patrol: Smedley Butler is the only military leader I can think of who ever said our budget was adequate to fighting a defensive war.

  32. American says:

    @ferriker; The SEAL who said that has already been outed as a leftist on the fringe of that community that is pushing “diversity” (females and trannys) and who’s reported to have voted for Obama and both Clintons. The Trump administration has charted a new course for the U.S. that reverses the parasitic ascendancy of Marxist China over the U.S. and is presently pouring the foundation to subjugate China and Russia both economically and militarily into the foreseeable future. Feel free to disregard the fringe leftist’s misinformed opinion.

  33. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    I don’t view Russia as an enemy. In many ways, their social and cultural policies are more admirable than our own. More pro-Christian, more anti-LGBT.

    American media and academia claimed that the Soviet Union was no threat, but now they say that Christian Nationalist Russia is. I don’t buy it.

    Eastern Europe might be the only place that Christian European civilization survives in the coming century. Perhaps in the 22nd century, Russia will take the lead in the reemergence of European Christendom.

    No wonder American media hates and fears Russia.

  34. Anonymous Reader says:

    OT question to the assembled multitude:
    Tattoos are indicators of mindset [1], especially big ones. A man suggested to me that a septum piercing on a girl is a strong indication of BPD. This seems a little over the top, but I’m willing to consider discussion.

    [1] Prison tats are especially distinctive, once one knows what they look like.

  35. feeriker says:

    Red Pill Latecomer says:
    September 21, 2019 at 4:33 pm

    The kept-bitch state-corporate propaganda media are demonizing Russia precisely because it is as you describe. Were Russia still the USSR and still embracing Godless, nihilist Marxism-Leninism, these lying shitsack scumbags would be embracing it with open arms and gushing endlessly about how invaluable an ally the Russians are.

  36. Paul says:

    @RPL Perhaps in the 22nd century, Russia will take the lead in the reemergence of European Christendom.

    It has been a long and strong held belief within Russian(!) Orthodoxy that it will take that lead.

    https://www.sfaturiortodoxe.ro/orthodox/orthodox_advices_seraphim_rose_the_end_of_the_world.htm

    Prophecies might be self-fulfilling though.

  37. FatR says:

    That generals may not be taking the Chinese threat seriously does not mean that it is not real or that the combination of persistent and brazen hostility towards China with ineffectuality of actions taken to curb Chinese power aren’t making it so. After all, we’re speaking about roughly the same collective of strategic minds that lead the country to the Middle Eastern debacle, which cost US stupendous amounts of money, and non-insignificant amount of blood, in exchange for objectively and severely worsening the country’s strategic position compared to what it was 16 years ago. So far the high command was able to gloss over that by pointing at examples of tactical and operational excellence, but how long US military would be able to produce those as all its parts become increasingly diversity-ridden and SJWised, is anyone’s guess.

  38. Oscar says:

    Gentlemen,

    I need to tell you all a story that illustrates how badly young men today are brain-washed.

    This will be long, but please read the whole thing. I think it’ll help some understand today’s young men’s plight a little better.

    As most of you know, I am – once again – in the land of sand and sun. Recently, I had a long conversation with a young NCO. I have no idea why he unburdened his heart to me (no one has ever described me as approachable), but he told me the story of his immediate family.

    He’s an outstanding young black man. His family of birth fell on hard times, and had to move to an inner city housing project. I won’t say which city, but it’s a bad one. This NCO’s (I’ll call him Jesse) dad told his family that it was temporary, and he had a plan to get them back on their feet. Jesse’s dad made Jesse and his brother do small maintenance, painting, fixing doors, and such, in their government apartment, even though they weren’t supposed to. The purpose was to instill a source of pride in the boys.

    Jesse’s dad worked three jobs to get his family out of the projects. One was a construction job. He used to take Jesse and his brother to the construction site and had them clean tools for the other construction workers to instill discipline and work ethic in his boys. Jesse’s dad literally worked himself to death for his family. He eventually died of lung ailments caused by materials he inhaled while demolishing buildings.

    When Jesse was a teenager, Jesse’s mom divorced his dad. Take a wild guess as to why.

    She divorced her husband because he worked too much, and didn’t spend enough time with her. Seriously.

    Jesse married young (this was before he enlisted), and worked multiple low-wage jobs to provide for his young wife and infant son.

    Jesse’s first wife divorced him because he worked too much, and didn’t spend enough time with her.

    Jesse’s married again, and has more children with his current wife. He confessed to me that he thinks his father was a good father, but not a very good husband, and that Jesse turned out the same way.

    Think about that for a minute. A man that literally sacrificed himself for his family is “not a good husband”.

    I didn’t say much throughout that conversation. I mostly just sat and listened, but at that moment I had to speak up. I said, “hang on, Sergeant. I have to disagree with you there. Your father did exactly what a husband should do under the circumstances. I can’t let you refer to your dad as a ‘bad husband’. I don’t mean to offend you, but any woman who would divorce your dad is clearly ungrateful.”

    Jesse was taken aback. No one had ever told him that his father – and by logical extension, Jesse – had been, in fact, a good husband for doing everything he could to support his ungrateful wife, and serve as a good role model for his sons.

    That’s how bad it is, men.

    Young men today are so brain-washed that it doesn’t occur to them to criticize a clearly ungrateful woman for divorcing a clearly outstanding man.

    Here’s a husband and father in his late 20s who grew up in church, and no one – no one – had ever told him that his father was a good husband, until I did.

    Gentlemen, this is what we older men are dealing with when we converse with young men these days. It’s not just that they don’t know the truth. Young men today are so brain-washed, they’ve been fed so many lies, that they can’t even conceive of truths that should be obvious.

    Is it any wonder that these young men are angry when they finally discover how much they’ve been lied to, and who’s been lying to them?

  39. Lost Patrol says:

    Good story, Oscar.

    I have had similar encounters and the reaction, including from older men, and including from church men, is always surprise at such an odd point of view. It’s visible on their faces and some will openly challenge it.

    Some of them will shift to weird tangents and I have to bring it back around by pointing out that I did not say anything about women, or the woman in a given story, but that I merely advocated for men, or the man in a given story; and that is what sounds wrong to them – because they are not accustomed to hearing anything like that.

    Brain-washing indeed.

  40. Otto says:

    @ZMAN said “Do you want to go fight thousands of miles away on behalf of Big Oil? Weapons Contractors? International Banking?”

    It has always been this way.

    What turned idealist Woodrow Wilson (who opposed entering the war in Europe) into a war monger? Because England had borrowed heavily from US bankers, and unless England won, there would be nobody to pay those bankers back.

    During armistice negotiations, why did Woodrow Wilson abandon his idealistic 14 points approach and become a hard liner demanding Germany accept responsibility for the WWI and pay reparations to the allies? Because, otherwise England would not have the money to repay loans from American bankers.

    Before, throughout and after the war, Wilson’s one unmovable position was that American bankers would be fully repaid the war loans they made to Europe.

  41. Frank K says:

    What;’s the saying? All wars ares banker wars?

  42. Jack Russell says:

    Anonymous Reader says:
    September 21, 2019 at 4:51 pm
    OT question to the assembled multitude:
    Tattoos are indicators of mindset [1], especially big ones. A man suggested to me that a septum piercing on a girl is a strong indication of BPD. This seems a little over the top, but I’m willing to consider discussion.

    [1] Prison tats are especially distinctive, once one knows what they look like.

    Here is a good editorial on this. Greg Adams has a couple of other videos on tattoos which go more in depth and are worth listening to.

  43. feeriker says:

    Óscar, thanks for sharing that powerful story. You did God’s work by sharing your perspective with Sergeant “Jesse.”

    Is it any wonder that these young men are angry when they finally discover how much they’ve been lied to, and who’s been lying to them?

    Indeed, and this why I, even as a believer, cannot fault or argue with any man who wants nothing whatsoever to do with today’s “churches.” They are poisonous, even potentially lethal hives of Satanic deception to any young man seeking God’s truth.

  44. fsy says:

    OT but interesting:

    An excellent takedown of Chelsea Handler’s “White Privilege” video.
    A point not mentioned is that even if you accept that she got lesser penalties for crimes than her black BF, maybe it was because she was female? Is she unwittingly blowing the whistle on Female Privilege?

  45. Name (required) says:

    …our gov’t can continue to pretend that women are men with breasts. Nowadays, some of them are.

    You know there is room for both realities in this issue…..
    A good rule of thumb is that there are no good guys: China is our enemy. So are the perfumed princes of the Pentagon.

    Another good rule of thumb is that the official story is a lie. That doesn’t tell us what the truth is – the truth may not be the diametric opposite of the lie – but we can be confident that the official story is not the truth.

    Applying those rules to this story, we would conclude that increasing our military budget will not make us more secure against our Chinese enemies, and will make us less secure against our enemies in DC. In Clown World, every day is opposite day. Honk-honk!

  46. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Man drowns during underwater marriage proposal: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/21/africa/tanzania-us-man-proposal-drowns-intl-trnd/index.html

    A Louisiana man has drowned after proposing to his girlfriend underwater while the couple was vacationing in Tanzania.

    Steven Weber and Kenesha Antoine were staying in Pemba Island, CNN affiliate WBRZ reports, in a wooden cabin with a bedroom submerged beneath the ocean surface off the east coast of Africa.

    Weber proposed on Thursday by swimming underwater and holding a handwritten note against the bedroom windows, according to a video Antoine posted Friday on Facebook, before presenting a ring.

    The note, which Weber had placed inside a transparent plastic bag, read, “I can’t hold my breath long enough to tell you everything I love about you. BUT…Everything I love about you I love more EVERY DAY!

    “Will you please be my WIFE,” the note continued. “Marry me???”

    But Weber failed to return to the surface.

    Antoine said in a subsequent Facebook post. “You never emerged from those depths, so you never got to hear my answer, ‘Yes! Yes! A million times, yes, I will marry you!!’ ” she wrote.

    I guess getting down on his knee wasn’t romantic enough.

  47. Name (required) says:

    Dalrock, can we use any html here? I tried to use i and em tags to set off quotes, neither worked.

  48. Novaseeker says:

    Name —

    If you use the less-than-sign and the greater-than-sign around the tags, it should work, like this.

  49. Anonymous Reader says:

    Name:
    As Nova noted, set off your symbol with “”.

    text is the general form. Use symbols “i” for italics, “b” for bold, “s” for strikethrough

    The symbol “blockquote”

    sets text apart in this particular way

    “Blink” is mercifully obsolete.

  50. Anonymous Reader says:

    “Less than” and “greater than” symbols are usually reserved symbols in HTML and can disappear as above if they do not enclose a known command symbol.

    General form:
    “Less than” symbol “greater than” then text then “less than” / symbol “greater than”.

  51. Lost Patrol says:

    Passing along what was once passed along to me by a Dalrock commenter.

    HTML Text Formatting

    https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_formatting.asp

  52. Spike says:

    China, due to industrialisation and increasing wealth, was always going to be on a collision course with the USA.
    There are 3 options:
    -A Hard collision, or full-scale war
    -A low-impact collision, which would be a proxy war fought over islands in the South China Sea or Taiwan for example.
    -A “sideswipe” , or trade / tariff war.

    Donald Trump is a lot of things, but he has chosen the latter option and while it is producing some pain, that’s nothing compared to a full-scale war.

    It is this paradox of conservative policy success that enables the left-liberal status quo to stay established, stay embedded in the institutions (education, entertainment, communications, public service) and criticise conservatives for racism, sexism and inequality.

    Women and trannies in the Armed Forces are at the top of the list.

  53. Name (required) says:

    testing i tag

    Testing blockquote

  54. Frank K says:

    Women and trannies in the Armed Forces are at the top of the list.

    I wonder at what point will China decide that our armed forces are impotent against any competent opponent and make their move against Taiwan?

  55. BillyS says:

    Countries will always have some conflict, even if they normally get along well. I would expect far more with China in the future, though it is not historically as expansionist as the US is and has been. China has tended to have very brief periods of expansion and then a lot of inward focus otherwise.

    The cost of a China war of any kind (shooting, trade, etc.) could be far more costly than many realize however. They hold a lot of debt and are both stuck with that and could crash many things by dumping what they have. It would be bad for both them and us. I suspect the stuff will hit the fan at some point and things will not go well worldwide, but time will tell what really happens.

  56. feeriker says:

    Man drowns during underwater marriage proposal:

    Antoine said in a subsequent Facebook post. “You never emerged from those depths, so you never got to hear my answer, ‘Yes! Yes! A million times, yes, I will marry you!!’ ” she wrote.

    I guess getting down on his knee wasn’t romantic enough.

    The cynic in me says that she probably would’ve delivered the poor schlub a nuclear rejection if he’d lived, but now that he’s a corpse she can humblebrag/virtue signal by gushing maudlin about how “oh-of-course-I-would-have-married-him!”

  57. feeriker says:

    I wonder at what point will China decide that our armed forces are impotent against any competent opponent and make their move against Taiwan?

    The Chinese already know that we’re all woof and growl and no bite. I’m pretty sure that the only reason that they haven’t retaken Taiwan is because they’ve decided that at present the economic and political costs of doing so outweigh any benefits. As soon as that changes, though, they’ll march right in and take it over, knowing full well that even the demented and moronic neocons in charge of America’s defense and foreign policy aren’t stupid enough to risk global nuclear war over Taiwan.

  58. feministhater says:

    I think it bares pointing out that at the instigation of actual war with Russia or China…. all the rules go flying out the window. Women will cry, withdraw from positions in the military and young men will once again bare the brunt of the cost with their lives and limbs. Women and society will shame as they always have and men will die in their countless millions.

    As with most wars, the powers that be need a means to extract blood from stone. They need a means to withdraw wealth, power and lives in order to balance their cheque book.

  59. feministhater says:

    Man drowns during underwater marriage proposal…

    God is merciful! Praise be! Saving this man from utter disaster! Bless his soul and may he rest in peace.

  60. Novaseeker says:

    I would expect far more with China in the future, though it is not historically as expansionist as the US is and has been. China has tended to have very brief periods of expansion and then a lot of inward focus otherwise.

    China’s primary interest is not in “expansion” per se but in kicking the US out of East Asia. China’s view is that East Asia needs precisely one hegemonic power, China, and that the US’s projection of its hegemonic power into East Asia is illegitimate and must be put to an end. They want to have the kind of hegemonic hemispheric power in East Asia that the US has in the Americas, basically. Ultimately I doubt that the US public would support a war undertaken simply to preserve American power projection or, for example, to preserve the independent status of Taiwan as opposed to Taiwan becoming another HK-like SAR (which is likely what China would do with it anyway). But that doesn’t mean that the Swamp Creatures won’t try to make it happen.

  61. dragnet says:

    @ Novaseeker

    Totally agree re: China. The main aim of China & Russia is to re-establish a multipolar world. It’s my view that over long-term they will be largely successful in this endeavor.

    Here’s hoping anyways.

  62. Scott says:

    During the first hundred some odd whatever years of our history, the active forces remained a very small and consistent number. Kind of s skeleton crew of sorts.

    A war would break out, we would draft a million people, fight the war and then when it was over, everyone went home.

    Then sometime during the period after the end of WWII and the end of Vietnam, conventional wisdom started to shift and doctrine became that we needed to be able to fight a two front war at a moments notice.

    Discussions like this one are ultimately contextualized by that history. In essence what we are taking about is “was it worth it?”

    The full time career military officer/NCO ( like I was) could not exist without it. Neither could social justice programming in the military.

    When a full time standing army is not at war, they are “training” for war. And “training” is very often a euphemism for “trying to keep 18-25 year old coeds with a paycheck out of trouble.”

    What that looks like ranges from picking up cigarettes butts to actual war fighting exercises. But the question remains…

    Is America safer with the apparatus and all the down sides that come with it?

  63. Anon says:

    dragnet,

    Totally agree re: China. The main aim of China & Russia is to re-establish a multipolar world. It’s my view that over long-term they will be largely successful in this endeavor.

    True. But Russia will have to be junior to China, since China’s economy is waaaay bigger now.

    There was a time I thought a unipolar world with America on top was ideal. But it is obvious that the seeds of current SJW lunacy were planted immediately after the Cold War ended. A multi-polar world would effectively end the immense resource misallocation into ‘feminism’ and LGBTQWERTY that is currently the status quo.

  64. Scott says:

    To continue-

    Towards the end of my career, I was saying things (outloud) like “in an idea world, there would be no army psychologists because no one would be in the army long enough to need one. The psych casualties would be screened out at the recruiting side long before they had a chance to fall out.”

    In essence, advocating for the end of my own job. This was not very popular.

  65. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    a septum piercing on a girl is a strong indication of BPD

    What the hell is a septum?
    Second thought, never mind.

  66. Frank K says:

    But Russia will have to be junior to China, since China’s economy is waaaay bigger now.

    But the Russians are more competent. The Chinese pretty much stlll depend on Moscow for advanced military tech. And civilian tech too: the Chinese are teaming up with the Russians to build a widebody jet airliner.

  67. Anon says:

    But the Russians are more competent.

    That is only true to the extent that 80’s-era technology is still in use.

    If Russia was that competent, they should have dominated world manufacturing, not China. The opportunity was there for the taking in 1992, and China was pathetically far behind relative to Russia in terms of education, technology, basic prosperity, etc. without the vast natural resources and advantageous geographical location Russia possessed.

    Despite this, China took all the world’s lower-cost manufacturing, while Russia took zero.

    Russia didn’t capture the software industry either. India exports $100B/yr of software. Russia does…..not.

  68. Name (required) says:

    If Russia was that competent, they should have dominated world manufacturing, not China.

    If Russia had a billion peasants living one harvest away from starvation, you mean.

    China had tens of millions of slave laborers to spare, many of them reasonably bright and most of them very trainable and all of them eager to get off the farm and send home a little cash.

    Russia has its little strong points, like competent engineers and a well trained, cheap work force, but it doesn’t have millions who can assemble electronics for a dollar a day.

  69. Anonymous Reader says:

    Hippopotamusdrome
    a septum piercing on a girl is a strong indication of BPD

    What the hell is a septum?

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Nasal_septum
    “Nose ring”. Like this totally normal girl…

    Second thought, never mind.

    Too late!

  70. Novaseeker says:

    Too late!

    The tongue ring is a massive slut tell as well … it’s basically a sex toy.

  71. Frank K says:

    And it’s chowder heads like that girl who get invited to the UN and get to scold the General Assembly for not forcing everyone to give up their cars, heating and A/C and sending most of their savings to corrupt 3rd world countries. And the scary thing is that momentum appears to be on their side.

  72. Frank K says:

    The Russians aren’t as far behind as we like to think they are. As for computer tech. a lot of UNIX/Linux internals know how is in Russia and eastern Europe.

  73. Oscar says:

    @ Frank K

    The Russians are still pretty far behind in aircraft technology. Their turbines burn so dirty that their passenger planes aren’t allowed to fly over Western countries unless they replace their home-made turbines with ones made by Rolls Royce, GE, or Pratt & Whitney.

    The Chinese are even further behind in aircraft technology. They buy their turbines from the Russians.

    But, as far as war goes, these days you can potentially do a lot more damage with cyber warfare than with conventional weapons.

  74. Rory says:

    Or possibly he’s just an incompetent fag on military welfare trotting out the same tired alarmism meant to pump spending while also being completely clueless to the fact that the comparative strength of the U.S. armed forces actually IS declining.

    And that’s a good thing, the globo-homo world order is enforced largely by the strength of the U.S. military, fuck them. All this means in the long term is that they can no longer project force to the extent that they can bully foreign countries into holding sodomite pride parades, boo-fucking-hoo.

  75. Rory says:

    @Anon ah so not only China, but even India is more competent than those bumbling Russians! Surely it’s only the most competent workers who are willing to attract outsourcers by working for slave wages. Perhaps if they keep working hard, Russia could hope to match the model of efficiency that is Bangladesh.

    The PUA sphere seems to attract the most aggressively stupid political commentators.

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