Stripmining can be dangerous.

From She thought she had a date. Then he suggested going to a spa

As it turned out, Alan was a sales agent, employed by a company to beguile unsuspecting women into purchasing goods and services they do not need.

The potential financial loss is not the only impact of the scams.

Victims are often psychologically harmed by the encounters, which can take a toll on their self-esteem.

The truly surprising aspect of this is not that consuming mass quantities of men turns out to sometimes pose a risk, but how remarkably risk free the practice is, or at least has been.  However, the story is from Hong Kong, so it could simply be that Hong Kong culture doesn’t have our western chivalrous obsession equating women seeking sex partners with a most noble moral quest.

H/T Fabius Maximus

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79 Responses to Stripmining can be dangerous.

  1. My guess is that this results from hypergamy making women desperate. More women feelz that they deserve alphas, while the supply of alpha is shrinking – the bottom-line result of feminism.

    As always, one girl’s problem is a conman’s opportunity. Think of this as “weaponized” hypergamy.

  2. texinole says:

    Tangentially related: I asked my wife to downgrade our cable bundle recently. She called them, then later spoke to me about all the complicated options the guy offered in return, and how we’d lose such-and-such discount, and how we could save money on balance by switching to their mobile phone service. She was confused (as intended) and so I called them back, with the intention of telling them I’d cancel all of it if they gave me any kind of runaround (a bluff, as we have only 1 ISP in my neighborhood).

    I never had to bluster. They simply said “ok” and downgraded as I desired.

    My wife was a bit angry, saying that they probably only do this to women because they figure females will fear losing discounts, be confused by several complicated options, and be enticed by new discount bundles. She was especially upset that they were right.

  3. American says:

    Miley Cyrus says she’s a radical feminist leftard who’s strongly attracted to women though married to a male and that she’s not going to reproduce. Such people not reproducing is good right?
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miley-cyrus-says-she-doesnt-want-kids-because-the-earth-cant-handle-it/

  4. The schadenfreude part of me laughs that the shoe is on the other foot, the other part of me thinks these people should be gone after with the full backing of the law for fraud. And I include the women who scam men out of free dinners. Ladies and gentleman, a first date should not cost more than $20. Meet for a drink or coffee, that’s it.

  5. Frank K says:

    My wife was a bit angry, saying that they probably only do this to women because they figure females will fear losing discounts, be confused by several complicated options, and be enticed by new discount bundles. She was especially upset that they were right.

    About 6 years ago we replaced our cars. I purchased mine by myself. I got no runaround. Yeah, they tried to sell me an extended warranty, I said no, and that was that.

    About a month later we went to buy hers, she of course came along.

    The guy in the finance office zeroed in on her, playing to her fears. First the extended warranty. No thanks. Oh, did he give her all horror scenarios of how much it could cost to replace a transmission or this or that. He wouldn’t give up. Then he tried to sell us prepaid maintenance. It made sense to my wife, after all, you want to take proper care of the car, right? I said no, it was wildly overpriced ($600 for a transmission flush) and the dealership was far from our home so it would be inconvenient. He then lied, saying that unless the maintenance was done at the dealership, that the factory warranty would be void. I called him out on that bald faced lie and told him to either close the deal or we would leave. About 15 minutes later we were on our way home with the new car.

  6. Frank K says:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miley-cyrus-says-she-doesnt-want-kids-because-the-earth-cant-handle-it/

    I strongly suspect that her “carbon footprint” is huge, even by first world standards. She probably travels on a private jet, has an energy hungry mansion and several gas guzzling luxury cars. I’ll bet she’s also for open borders. Never mind that a third worlder who comes here will become a first world consumer in no time flat.

  7. Asaph says:

    Good. Not everyone should reproduce. Especially, degenerates like her

  8. Opus says:

    @American

    I needed to bring myself up to speed on humanitarian and pop singer Miley Cyrus and so I clicked on to Infogalactic. The first thing i saw at the bottom of the page was that she is LGBT this and LGBT that. I therefore expected to read of some girl-on-girl love but although apparently at the age of fourteen she told her mother she was Pansexual whatever that may be I see that 1. she dated handsome and presumably wealthy actor Tyler Posey, then 2. handsome and presumably wealthy actor and singer Nick Jonas and 3. handsome and presumably wealthy actor Liam Hemsworth and 4. handsome and definitely wealthy model and actor Patrick Schwrazenegger. No mention on InforG of a marriage but I think therefore that her LGBT credentials are as unconvincing as mine. Pansexual? she likes just one type namely hunky good-looking wealthy and in the case of Schwarzenegger at least well connected white guys. I think we can assume that her protestations about not wanting to crowd the planet with offspring (if I had five dollars for every time I had heard some future mother say that I would be wealthy) will vanish into the mist when she meets the guy she sees as the real Alpha deal.

  9. John James R says:

    Switch the genders in this Hong Kong story and the speed in which it becomes an irrelevant non-issue could actually do some damage to the space-time continuum. I think I got steered into some dental work with this method when I lived in China. Pretty girl dated me, steered me to her dental office (I needed a visit anyway) and didn’t see me again. I cannot even begin to imagine it being made into a media issue.

  10. emery says:

    The girl in the story is 26, and I’m told the ‘Christmas Cake’ term starts early over in China (something like being 23-25 without marriage prospects makes you a cake). For us we’d call that ‘The wall’ and put it at…35 or so? So it’s people preying on sad lonely cat ladies, haha.

  11. John James R says:

    Coming soon is an article on Instagram models deceiving lonely, low-SMV males into thinking that they might have a connection, resulting in gifts and cash payouts. Turns out the Instagram model is not really interested in meeting them! Major expose` coming soon, condemning the females for behaving like this while making a great display of sympathy and culture-wide apology to the victimized males.

    Right?

  12. @John James R, paradoxically I think the cure for that is good old fashioned male on male shame. Being a “pay piggy” is so unbelievably tragic. I mean getting tricked once if you’re young or especially dumb, that happens, but anybody who even fawns over a woman (“oh you’re so beautiful”x1000 on every pic etc.) kinda needs to be shamed by other men as a chump.

  13. American says:

    @Asaph: agreed.
    @Opus: You said that better than I could. She probably will reproduce, even though the world’s better off without more people like her in it.

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  15. NotaBene says:

    I’ve been scammed like this before twice by different couples *in the church*. Both were offering pyramid schemes, both times it hit me after we were already hanging out, both times I was completely unsuspecting. Still, no laws were broken. While it’s a jerk move, I can’t claim psychological damage or injustice.

    I laugh at people who don’t even know each other hooking up for sex and not getting what they think they deserve. If you’re going to go on a bunch of dates with random people with zero vetting other than a picture and short inaccurate description, don’t be surprised if you get some weird people. Maybe you’re one of them.

  16. feeriker says:

    As it turned out, Alan was a sales agent, employed by a company to beguile unsuspecting women into purchasing goods and services they do not need.

    Man bites dog!

    God, I’m laughing so hard I’m about to piss myself!

  17. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Back in the 1990s, this was a common bait & switch scheme in Hollywood. I assume it still is.

    A “casting agency” ran an ad seeking actors. When the actors came in, the agency complained about the actor’s headshot. They would only offer representation if the actor had new “professional” headshots taken by the agency’s approved photographer.

    There are scam acting classes which promise access to top agencies. And scam plays. After they cast you, you learn that you must pay for part of the production. But don’t worry, you’ll be given tickets to sell so you can earn back your money.

    All sorts of bait & switch scams targeting actors, models, and sometimes writers.

  18. locustsplease says:

    Getting conned into paying for a massage that you are receiving? Like if your on a date with a woman and she wants to go to the strip club and you go and find out she worked for the club. Thats it! Ive just lost all faith in humanity god help us all i was coerced into doing something i enjoyed!

  19. Oscar says:

    What the hell was Liam Hemsworth (a young man with the world at his disposal) thinking hitching himself to a train wreck like Miley Cyrus?

  20. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    I don’t know much about Miley Cyrus (or any newer singers — I mostly listen to music from the 1970s and 1980s), so I went to her Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/mileycyrus/

    She has 95,700,000 followers. I wonder how many of them are bots?

    She also has posted: Virginity is a Social Construct. Which I guess is supposed to mean that there’s no such thing as virgin or non-virgin.

  21. Red Pill Christianity says:

    Oscar says:
    July 13, 2019 at 12:02 am
    What the hell was Liam Hemsworth (a young man with the world at his disposal) thinking hitching himself to a train wreck like Miley Cyrus?

    I hear ya on that and agree 100%. Liam is good looking, rich, famous, and he is Thor’s brother. The fact he sought out Miley Cyrus is unthinkable. It is like famous actors who date/dated the unsexiest woman alive, Sarah Jessica Parker.

    Same with Pierce Brosnan, the dude has looks, charisma, and James Bond coolness. His late wife and current wife are both ogres, I kid you not.

    What is the point of having looks, fame, and money if you are gonna get hitched to a train wreck?!?!

    On the OP topic: in Brazil, stores do this as well. They hire attractive women who appear to be “confused shoppers” outside their stores (or restaurants) to trick guys into buying stuff in the store or taking the girl to lunch/dinner (“flash date”).

    I can only assume Alan, the man tricking the women to spend money in the SPA must have been swooned by his good looks, Alpha attitude, and overall appearance. Women are hypergamous, no way they would make this effort and spend money if the guy was not simply “fabulous”.

    Ps. Look up “going undercover on Tinder as Chad Thundercock” and see what I mean. Women will tolerate almost any rude behavior from a high-value man, especially if he is tall, good-looking, and Alpha/cocky.

    Hypergamy in women is absolutely real an dit is irrelevant if you believe in the concept of hypergamy or not. Women are women everywhere in the world and they are all hypergamous in one manner or another. I have seen this first hand from the USA to Brazil to Ukraine.

  22. Hmm says:

    Ever wonder what can get a liberal pastoress fired from her congregation?
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/prominent-liberal-church-ousts-pastor-after-alleged-sex-toy-shopping-spree

  23. rocko says:

    Lol, the world definitely couldn’t handle another Miley Cyrus. We’ve already handled a Billy Ray Cyrus, and that’s too much

  24. rocko says:

    @Frank K

    Transmissions are indeed expensive. Just paid $2200 to the one on my truck fixed. But I paid cash. Fuck warranties. It’s basically just a money pit where you may or may not get the service they promise.

  25. MatchesMalone says:

    Unrelated (mostly) but I highly recommend the new Netflix movie “After.” I’d also love Dalrock’s notes on it if possible – plenty there to discuss… It’s a 90’s-ish unWoke obsessive romance story with lots of truth in it (hence the feminist freak out). Was refreshing to watch, made my weekend to see how popular the book series is as I had never heard of it.

  26. Hugh Mann says:

    It sometimes happens in reverse – this guy invited his girl to dinner, left his wallet behind so she ended paying, and he chose the most expensive stuff on the menu – her bill was 10% of her monthly pay.

    Talking of sad cases, what about the UK “instagram model” who’s literally selling her bathwater to “thirsty” guys. Now that’s pathetic – they can’t all be doing it ironically.

  27. Anonymous Reader says:

    Hmm
    Ever wonder what can get a liberal pastoress fired from her congregation?

    Interesting on multiple levels. The NYC paper of record has a better news story with a money angle. The sex toy event most likely was a trigger, not the sole cause.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/11/pastor-out-at-famed-riverside-church-after-sex-toy-harassment-accusations/

    Amy Butler is reported to be 49 years old, so she’s GenX and probably 3rd-stage feminist — “sex positive”. The other two are surely younger, possibly Millennial and therefore from a different country where such casual talk is not necessarily “ok”.

    I guess that Marc Driscoll and his wife were unavailable for comment.

  28. aussiemania says:

    They knew about all this 150 years ago – reading George Meredith’s ‘The Egoist’ published 1879:

    ‘For solitude, thought he, is good for the man, the man being a creature consumed by passion; women’s love, on the contrary, will only be nourished by the reflex light she catches of you in the eyes of others, she having no passion of her own, but simply an instinct driving her to attach herself to whatsoever is most largely admired, most shining.’ (p 294).

  29. Novaseeker says:

    Amy Butler is reported to be 49 years old, so she’s GenX and probably 3rd-stage feminist — “sex positive”. The other two are surely younger, possibly Millennial and therefore from a different country where such casual talk is not necessarily “ok”.

    I agree. She didn’t get the memo that she can’t talk with millenials the way Gen X speak with each other. Millenials may find hookup partners like they shop for groceries on instacart, but you can’t talk openly about such things with them without negative repurcussions (close, established friendships excluded). She clearly didn’t understand that, and it burned her.

  30. Scott says:

    Man that Amy Butler thing has me confused. If its not OK to discuss/broach those kinds of topics, why did they go into the store with her? That’s what you do in a store like that. You make dirty, off color jokes. I mean, not that I would know.

  31. Frank K says:

    Transmissions are indeed expensive. Just paid $2200 to the one on my truck fixed.

    At least you could get it fixed. I’m hearing a lot of horror stories about having to entirely replace the gear box, with bills in the $5000+ range. CVTs seem especially bad. Of course, they give up the ghost after the extended warranty expires. Of course, a lot of people never replace the transmission fluid in their slushbox.

  32. BillyS says:

    Frank,

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find some embedded device that blows the car up that way after the warranty runs out. It is all far too convenient.

  33. Opus says:

    I had no idea how lucrative being a Pastor might be. That Butler woman had an emolument of a quarter million dollars a year, 8k towards housing and 55k towards her pension. Get me into religion! A member of the clergy in the CofE gets to live in a grace and favour house (i.e. a tied cottage) but has a salary of a mere £23k a year courtesy of the taxpayer.

    The Overton window moves. Some two decades back the local Council turned down a proposal for a sex-type shop its proposed being siting someway from the main shopping units. A decade later permission was granted for an Ann Summers in our Shopping Mall which until the recent retail problems only accepted blue-chip clients (which mall is cleverly hidden right in the centre of town). Of course, no one takes any notice. Almost all shops in shopping-malls are in any case aimed at women and so in fact the Ann Summers does not look out of place. Sex shops were traditionally seen as a place for loser men but the only people who go into these shops now are women seeking lingerie and sex-toys. My then girlfriend once dragged me in. I was somewhere between bored and embarrassed.

    It is then not just Churches that have been handed over to the female sex but sex-shops too. A man in a sex shop was as I said a loser yet a woman in one is strong and empowered and I suppose, at least where I am, the same is true of Church.

    I am told by-the-way that the semi-final of the Women’s World Cup was watched in England by ten million people. These days that is a very high figure for terrestrial television but the reason is not so much a newfound belief in female ability at Soccer but by reason of the fact that it was our (white) girls. They lost to yours and so no one watched the final. Had the English men been in the semi-final of the World Cup that figure would have been over two times higher, and everyone would have taken the following day off work either to smash up the town (if we lost) or to celebrate into the early hours (if we won). No such property destruction after last weeks failure.

  34. Whitney says:

    Pammy, Allen, Macy? That’s anti-white racism

  35. Frank K says:

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find some embedded device that blows the car up that way after the warranty runs out. It is all far too convenient.

    Some brands and models are better than others. I understand that Toyota’s conventional slushboxes (non CVT) will last a very long time, even 300K+ miles, while Nissan’s CVT’s can die after just 50K miles and that few make it to the 100K mark. The Chevrolet Cruze is another model with known transmission problems. Even mighty Toyota recalled CVT equipped Corolla’s and they replaced the entire transmission.

    And to make things worse, automakers are switching to CVT’s to squeeze out a couple more mpgs as they are scrambling to meet new government mandated fuel economy standards. This is also why there are now so many larger cars and SUV’s that come with tiny (like 1500 CC) engines with turbos. After decades of reliability improvements, cars are beginning to regress and become less durable and reliable.

  36. Frank K says:

    I had no idea how lucrative being a Pastor might be. That Butler woman had an emolument of a quarter million dollars a year, 8k towards housing and 55k towards her pension. Get me into religion! A member of the clergy in the CofE gets to live in a grace and favour house (i.e. a tied cottage) but has a salary of a mere £23k a year courtesy of the taxpayer.

    Keep in mind that her position was a political one at a very old, very liberal and once very large church that has countless millions in endowments and which can pay the bills even if no one drops a penny into the collection plate. There are many liberal churches/congregations like that in the US, full of empty pews but they can keep the doors open because they have enough money in the bank to get by on the interest it earns.

    Many “mega church” churchian pastors are also paid handsomely. But pastors at smaller Protestant churches are not. Catholic clergy are paid a pittance, Deacons don’t even receive a salary. I doubt Orthodox Priests are paid a six figure salary, even though they are married and have families.

  37. Scott says:

    Nick MGTOW

    I tried to post a comment and a link to just website to that lifezette article and it was taken down in about 2 seconds

  38. Anonymous Reader says:

    @Scott,
    I tried to post a comment and a link to just website to that lifezette article and it was taken down in about 2 seconds

    Well, sure. The very first sentence guarantees that result:

    ’ve been doing a lot of interviews lately in conjunction with my new book and the launch of a new era of Promise Keepers.

    What I saw in my days as a Los Angeles Police Department street cop in South Central is that almost all the problems in this world come from the pride and the greed of men.

    He’s another White Knight, always ready to blame men not only for their own failings, but for the failings of women. Should be able to make some bank off of his new version of “Promise Keepers” for a few years, too.

    Because nobody ever went broke by bashing men. Not in the Anglosphere anyway.

  39. Anonymous Reader says:

    @Scott,
    I tried to post a comment and a link to just website to that lifezette article and it was taken down in about 2 seconds

    Well, sure. The very first sentence guarantees that result, he doubles down further on:

    I’ve been doing a lot of interviews lately in conjunction with my new book and the launch of a new era of Promise Keepers.

    What I saw in my days as a Los Angeles Police Department street cop in South Central is that almost all the problems in this world come from the pride and the greed of men.

    Meh.
    Here’s another White Knight, always ready to blame men not only for their own failings, but for the failings of women. Should be able to make some bank off of his new version of “Promise Keepers” for a few years, too. Until it collapses just as the previous Promise Keepers did, of course.

    Because nobody ever went broke by bashing men. Not in the Anglosphere anyway.

  40. Anonymous Reader says:

    Putting this comment in both “Heh” and here:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/neither-male-nor-female-why-some-nonbinary-people-are-microdosing-n1028766

    Should turn out well with no notable side effects.

  41. Liz says:

    Mattress girl is “nonbinary”.
    “The New Way to be Mad” describes the phenomenon happening now….with transgenders, non binaries, et al. It was written back in 2000.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

    TLDR: A lot of mental illnesses have a social component. Sexual fetishisms in particular.
    No accident that mattress girl’s parents were both shrinks.

  42. Mike says:

    For your viewing pleasure…Taking from a 24 year old “Christian” woman’s dating profile I just read. She’s ready for a special man!
    ***
    “Certain things you should know is I am not into this whole dominant/submissive junk. It’s complete garbage. That is not what God intended a relationship to be. I do not like men that are rough. Rugged now that’s a different story hehe. I am not a feminist that to me is also garbage. I believe a man should be the one to lead. However not in a controlling way because I don’t stand for that and I have no problem putting you in your place. I want a strong gentle Christian man. A man that is also very clean cut. I’m a neat freak. But don’t worry I’m not expecting Leonardo DiCaprio. Cause I’m no Angelina Jolie. Maybe more like a Marilyn Monroe/Amy Schumer lol.”

  43. BillyS says:

    Scott,

    They did leave my 2 replies, for now at least. They also left the fake “make money” post. They are probably just deleting anything with a link, or at least scrutinizing it immediately.

    I am ashamed to admit I used to think well of Promise Keepers and efforts before it.

  44. BillyS says:

    Mike,

    The man should be a chauffeur leader and lead her wherever she wants to go!

    Big difference between Marilyn Monroe and Amy Schumer. She likely has no clue about that since the bulb in that area burned out a long time ago. She is fat and we should embrace her anyway!

  45. American says:

    Hollywood leftards found a black leftardess to be the next “James Bond 007.” I’m not kidding. She’s going to run around studio sets supposedly killing legions of strong capable men without breaking a sweat. Enjoy, because I don’t watch this nonsense and haven’t for years now. If I want to indulge in fantasy, I’ll pick up a Tolkien book. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/the-next-actor-to-portray-james-bond-agent-007-based-on-a-real-life-wwii-british-spy-and-hero-will-be-an-unattractive-black-female/

  46. info says:

    @Mike
    Shows that just because women dont call themselves or identify as feminist. Doesnt mean their behavior and actions wont be.

  47. locustsplease says:

    @nick mgtow. Where have the steady Eddies gone who are gonna give my daughters some solid reliable child support. Sadly one thing i learned is the police know really well what the score is with relationships. They are pulling guys for child support all day for warrants the actual numbers are staggering.

    A cop cant claim to not know what the reason men are avoiding relationships is. They are the dam enforcers every friend of mine whos been to the local jail said half the guys are in there for CS.

  48. Höllenhund says:

    @Oscar

    What the hell was Liam Hemsworth (a young man with the world at his disposal) thinking hitching himself to a train wreck like Miley Cyrus?

    I suppose he’s as interested in a) heterosexual sex b) having children c) serious monogamy as she is. For the time being, that is.

  49. Höllenhund says:

    @Nick

    The first sentence in that Lifezette article is:

    I’ve been doing a lot of interviews lately in conjunction with my new book and the launch of a new era of Promise Keepers.

    Yeah, because the old era was, like, so successful…

  50. Liz says:

    Hollywood leftards found a black leftardess to be the next “James Bond 007.”
    Maybe she’ll work undercover at a boutique.
    “Ready to dye now?”

  51. Frank K says:

    Hollywood leftards found a black leftardess to be the next “James Bond 007.”

    What is funny is that some wealthy leftard is ponying up the cash to make these flops, and is going to lose his shirt. When the super hero fad runs out (and there are early signs that might be starting to happen), how will Hollywood make any money, other than redoing Disney classics as live action flicks?

  52. Hmm says:

    Even the “Disney classics as live action” isn’t going so well. “Dumbo” was a flop. The early reviews of “The Lion King” are pretty bad. Of course, it isn’t really “Live Action”.

  53. NCMike says:

    Doesn’t the gal with that dating profile realize that Amy Schumer’s body fat % is several multiples of Marilyn Monroe’s?

  54. Anon says:

    Hollywood leftards found a black leftardess to be the next “James Bond 007.” I’m not kidding.

    Good god. They can’t be that stupid.

    Making Moneypenny a black woman was fine; that didn’t fundamentally alter the very premise of the character.

    But Bond himself (or now xirself)?

  55. Liz says:

    Doesn’t the gal with that dating profile realize that Amy Schumer’s body fat % is several multiples of Marilyn Monroe’s?
    Pretty sure it’s all code for “I’m a fat blonde” and “horrors await you”
    Best not to overthink it.

  56. feeriker says:

    Good god. They can’t be that stupid.

    Oh yes, they can be. In fact, we ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

    It might also just be delusion. The Hollyweird leftard set is wealthy enough that they’ve been able to largely isolate themselves from the real world.

  57. Frank K says:

    The early reviews of “The Lion King” are pretty bad. Of course, it isn’t really “Live Action”.

    Yeah, that one is pure CGI. I saw a Lion King trailer on youtube. My first thought was: I already saw the original, we bought the DVD for the kids (and still have it), so why would I shell out $10+ to see this?

    Apparently the Aladdin remake did well, but yeah, I’ve heard that most of the Disney remakes aren’t blockbusters, though I suspect enough parents will take their kids to see it for Disney to make at least a little money.

    But this trend of making flick after flick that no one wants to see has got to be hitting the Hollyweirdo producers in the pocket book. I suppose they make up for it with super hero movies, but we’ll see how much longer that lasts. How many times can you reboot Spiderman?

  58. Gunner Q says:

    American @ July 14, 2019 at 11:20 pm:
    “Hollywood leftards found a black leftardess to be the next “James Bond 007.” I’m not kidding. She’s going to run around studio sets supposedly killing legions of strong capable men without breaking a sweat.”

    No, no, it’s worse than that. Early leaks say that James Bond (still played by Daniel Craig) will come out of retirement to mentor the newly licensed, vibrantly androgynous 007 while being astonished that s/he can easily reject his toxic masculinity.

    I’d suspect a troll except it’s official that the script is being co-written by a Phoebe Waller-Bridge, whose previous cinema credit was herself seducing a fallen priest.

    https://gunnerq.com/2019/05/20/the-name-is-bond-fleabag-bond/

  59. Anon says:

    I thought that Eon was extremely protective about the fundamentals of the franchise. They would sooner retire it than have something like this be done.

    Moneypenny and Felix Leiter being black is fine – that does not detract from the fundamentals of the character. M being Judy Dench was suboptimal, but still not a big deal. But Bond himself?

  60. Anon says:

    To tell you how crazy things have become.

    In Star Trek, Deep Space 9 (during the 90s), the character of Dax was played by a humanoid host, and a worm-like symbiont. The attractive female host Jadzia (Terry Farrell) married the Klingon Worf, who was known for having a problem with androgyny. When Jadzia was killed, the host was saved, but they at least put it into another woman (albeit a shorter, less attractive one with short hair). The memories of all prior host lives (7+ by that point, amounting to over 300 years) are carried over into the new host. The complications this causes for Worf are an important subplot.

    They could have made the new host a male (since several of the prior 7-8 hosts before Jadzia over the previous 300 years were male), but they (wisely) did not. If the show were today, they would have not just gone way overboard with the gender-change thing, but poor Michael Dorn (Worf) might have been forced to kiss another man on screen.

  61. Frank K says:

    The whole concept of interspecies romantic relationships in Star Trek was a bit absurd. First of all, everyone’s plumbing was somehow compatible. Of course, the whole concept of almost all sentient species being humanoids was lazy, though there was a TNG episode that gave a weak explanation: we were all seeded by an ancient humanoid race. So much for life spontaneously happening.

    But yeah. if DS9 were made today. Worf might have found himself in an even more awkward position. Michael Dorn is possibly relieved that he’s been mostly relegated to voice acting for cartoon shows.

    I recall a David Brin novel (from his uplift series) where a human and a non human sort of humanoid try to have a relationship, and one of the big problems they had was that their “parts” were not compatible at all.

  62. Anon says:

    Frank K,

    The whole concept of interspecies romantic relationships in Star Trek was a bit absurd.

    That is true, but that is half of the franchise. That is why there are so many characters that are ‘half-human’. Without those foils, half the plots and subplots would vanish.

    But what was stupid is how they refused to show interracial human relationships on screen to a significant extent (which is entirely contrary to what they portray the 24th century to be). They not only create a black Vulcan (Tuvok), which already stretches credulity, but his Vulcan wife is also black. So 1990s TV audience preferences exist among 24th century vulcans.

    So much for being ‘edgy’. There are certain things Star Trek was too afraid to touch.

    There is nothing wrong with all Vulcans/Romulans being Asian actors, and all Klingons being black actors. But to assume that each planet has the same races as humans do, and that their marriages still follow those (even as the same people are willing to mate with aliens from another planet) is absurd.

    But at least they didn’t do man + man shit in the 90s versions of Star Trek.

  63. Well, giving every species its own visible dindus helps suspension of disbelief.

  64. Frank K says:

    But at least they didn’t do man + man shit in the 90s versions of Star Trek.

    I haven’t watched Star Trek Discovery, mostly because I refuse to pay to see it on CBS’s streaming channel, but also because I fear that it will be so woke that I might require a barf bag to watch it.

    And then there is the Star Trek spoof The Orville. That is so painful to watch that I quickly gave up on it, even though it’s free (I can pick it up with an antenna)

  65. BillyS says:

    I was briefly interested in The Orville until I learned an early plot was about two men being married or something like that. I am not going to waste any time on it either.

  66. Nick Mgtow says:

    Scott says:
    July 14, 2019 at 5:20 pm

    Nick MGTOW

    I tried to post a comment and a link to just website to that lifezette article and it was taken down in about 2 seconds

    *Imagine my surprise!*

    locustsplease says:
    July 15, 2019 at 6:49 am

    @nick mgtow. Where have the steady Eddies gone who are gonna give my daughters some solid reliable child support.

    They’ve gone their own way: video games, working just to support themselves…

    NCMike says:
    July 15, 2019 at 9:43 am

    Doesn’t the gal with that dating profile realize that Amy Schumer’s body fat % is several multiples of Marilyn Monroe’s?

    Well, Monroe’s image is often portrayed as chubby and plumpy, as an excuse to all the obese and fatties who don’t want to exercise.

    She wasn’t skinny like a moder day model, more like an actual adult movies actress or a Victoria’s Secret Model

  67. Oscar says:

    @ Frank K

    The whole concept of interspecies romantic relationships in Star Trek was a bit absurd.

    It’s a show with antimatter “warp drive”, teleportation, “replicators”, a “holodeck”, and time travel. Absurdity is a feature, not a bug.

  68. Oscar says:

    @ Anon

    They could have made the new host a male (since several of the prior 7-8 hosts before Jadzia over the previous 300 years were male), but they (wisely) did not. If the show were today, they would have not just gone way overboard with the gender-change thing, but poor Michael Dorn (Worf) might have been forced to kiss another man on screen.

    They did that with Dr. Crusher, and she declined the relationship, which today would be tantamount to genocide.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Host_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

  69. Frank K says:

    It’s a show with antimatter “warp drive”, teleportation, “replicators”, a “holodeck”, and time travel. Absurdity is a feature, not a bug.

    TNG and subsequent series relied way too much on pseudo scientific babble, with characters yammering about tachyon fields, polarons and whatever. But you’re right, it’s a feature, not a bug. TNG often had horrible writing and most episodes are painfully PC to rewatch.

  70. MKT says:

    Off-topic, but Josh Harris, the I Kissed Dating Goodbye guy is now kissing marriage goodbye. While his book (and “purity culture” in general) were misguided in some ways, he went on a rather ridiculous apology tour and started hanging around liberals and feminists. His wife stopped using her maiden name a while back. Looks like they’ve done a 180 from the conservative Christianity that launched his career.

    A comment from a Pulpit & Pen article about it:
    “In one of his books, Harris recounts how he struggled with his wife’s promiscuous past before they got married, since he adhered to the purity movement. This a dilemma a lot of Christian men in the West have to face due to the gender imbalance when it comes to access to sex and the increase in hypergamy that (even professing “christian”) women gained and have been heartily utilizing since the Sexual Revolution.

    His passive father told him to bite the bullet and marry her anyway. Terrible advice. I am sure that this was one of the reasons that led to the divorce. This same advice is given to men in churches, which is contrary to what is taught in the bible, and is wreaking havoc due to its reinforcement and promulgation of a culture of permissiveness when it comes to sexual sin. A lot of problems could be avoided if men actually had standards again and knew how to pick a virtuous spouse.”

  71. Anonymous Reader says:

    “Man up and marry that slut” didn’t work out well?

    Wow, who would have expected that…

  72. BillyS says:

    And the purity movement was the whole problem according to some here, right?

  73. Oscar says:

    She was promiscuous, but purity was the problem. Sure. Makes perfect sense.

  74. Luke says:

    Re Star Trek…

    From http://www.manbottle.com/humor/10_things_I_hate_about_Star_Trek

    10 things I hate about Star Trek
    By an anonymous Trekkie.

    10. Noisy doors.

    You can’t walk three feet in a starship without some door whooshing or screeching at you. My office building has automatic sliding doors. They’re dead silent. If those doors went “wheet!” every time a person walked through them, about once a month some guy in accounting would snap and go on a shooting rampage. Sorry Scotty, the IEEE has revoked your membership until you learn to master WD-40

    9. The Federation.

    This organization creeps me out. A planet-wide government that runs everything, and that has abolished money. A veritable planetary DMV. Oh sure, it looks like a cool place when you’re rocketing around in a Federation Starship, but I wonder how the guy driving a Federation dump truck feels about it?

    And everyone has to wear those spandex uniforms. Here’s an important fact: Most people, you don’t want to see them in spandex. You’d pay good money to not have to see them. If money hadn’t been abolished, that is. So you’re screwed.

    7. Seatbelts.

    Yeah, I know this one is overdone, but you’d think that the first time an explosion caused the guy at the nav station to fly over the captain’s head with a good 8 feet of clearance, someone would say, “You know, we might think of inventing some futuristic restraining device to prevent that from happening.” So of course, they did make something like that for the second Enterprise (the first one blew up due to poor lubrication), but what was it? A hard plastic thing that’s locked over your thighs. Oh, I’ll bet THAT feels good in the corners. “Hey look! The leg-bars worked as advertised! There goes Kirk’s torso!”

    5. Rule by committee.

    Here’s the difference between Star Trek and the best SF show on TV last year:

    Star Trek:

    Picard: “Arm photon torpedoes!”
    Riker: “Captain! Are you sure that’s wise?”
    Troi: “Captain! I’m picking up conflicting feelings about this! And, it appears that you’re a ‘fraidy cat.”
    Wesley: “Captain, I’m just an annoying punk, but I thought I should say something.”
    Worf: “Captain, can I push the button? This is giving me a big Klingon warrior chubby.”
    Giordi: “Captain, I think we should reverse the polarity on them first.”
    Picard: “I’m so confused. I’m going to go to my stateroom and look
    pensive.”

    Firefly:

    Captain: “Let’s shoot them.”
    Crewman: “Are you sure that’s wise?”
    Captain: “Do you know what the chain of command is? It’s the chain I’ll BEAT YOU WITH until you realize who’s in command.”
    Crewman: “Aye Aye, sir!”

    4. A Star Trek quiz:

    Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and ‘Ensign Gomez’ beam down to a planet. Which one isn’t coming back?

    2. The Holodeck.

    I mean, it’s cool and all. But do you really believe that people would use it to re-create Sherlock Holmes mysteries and old-west saloons? Come on, we all know what the holodeck would be used for. And we also know what the worst job on the Enterprise would be: Having to squeegee the holodeck clean.

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