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If most mainstream churches are a-ok with the promotion of sodomy, why don’t they just have full-fledged church prostitutes. They could boost membership and generate revenue for the church. Biblically, church/temple prostitution and sodomy are at least the same level of sin in the Bible.
I am almost positive I have never met a girl in my life who disliked Taylor Swift for any reason. I guess I need to lift more and hold frame better or I’ll never be able to lock down the prospective wife I haven’t yet met.
I got a “video unavailable” when I tried to play it. I’m in California at the moment.
So…the “trailer park” is a metaphor for the United States…and whether you are a beautiful and rich singer, a transvestite, or a garden-variety homosexual you are entitled to have all the fun you want…but the toothless Christians and un-enlightened white folk from (outside?) the hip trailer park want to ruin everybody’s fun…meanwhile the drag queen show must go on, everybody wins and nobody loses, and it all degenerates into a super-fun food fight (with cake). And “Big Macs and fries” (a metaphor for…something) will always find one another, because in the end they really belong together.
Somebody explain to me again why I’m supposed to be afraid of Sharia law. Could it possibly be any worse than this national poop-show?
(FYI-I did not listen to a word of the song. I only watched the visuals, and interpreted what I saw.)
We’ll calm down when Taylor finally comes out.
Doesn’t she know that this permissive era will soon end?
RigsOfChad: I’ve noticed the same thing. Even my own sister (conservative, Christian, happily married with kids) really likes Taylor Swift music. Best you can hope for is a woman who (a) doesn’t listen to pop music enough to know who she is or (b) likes her music but is smart enough to recognize the dangers of the singer’s Princess complex and admit-no-fault, take-no-responsibility approach to relationships.
Music speaks to us on a deeply emotional level, so you’ll never intellectually talk someone out of liking what they like. Best you can hope for is getting them to admit its shortcomings, which they’ll still want to minimize.
@DamnCrackers
The prostitution would be profitable, but then men would get to enjoy sex and perhaps fatherhood, and they can’t allow that.
What still surprises me is that, even aside from the degeneracy of the lyrics, this kind of music is ugly. The over the top artificial sound with the overpowering bass is not pleasant to listen to.
I remember a couple years ago when everyone was talking about how good lady Gaga’s halftime show was and I was incredibly confused because the music and choreography were so unpleasant to the eyes and ears. It’s surprising to me that people think this stuff actually sounds and looks good.
Here is some interesting points about Taylor Swift from the Vigilant Citizen. She has gone to the dark side.
https://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/taylor-swift-queen-of-the-2018-american-music-awards/
Lecturing the rest of us about inclusion while wearing BOSS. Irony is dead.
“Everybody likes Taylor Swift”
This is the latest in a long trend, Madonna was even more contemptuous of our social norms, and everybody loved her. Conservatives. too. Concerts in the Deep South would have mothers dancing with their 10-year-old sons and daughters.
This was described by the great sociologist (and Senator) Daniel Patrick Moynihan as “Defining Deviancy Down” in American Educator, Winter 1993).
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In 2017 I wrote Welcome to Weimerica, a cage match between Left and Right. Whoever wins, it won’t be moderates.
https://fabiusmaximus.com/2017/07/25/the-left-gender-politics-weimerica/
Here is a better link to Moynihan’s paper, “Defining Deviancy Down” .
Click to access defining-deviancy-down-amereducator.pdf
I’ve kept an eye on Taylor for a while as an example of what modern gynocracy sows. If any woman could have it all and become the living embodiment of feminist triumph, surely it would be Taylor, the most successful female pop star of her generation.
The thing about highly successful women is they are their own worst enemies. Her expectations are stratospherically high, and yet the things she values the most are ones she can’t buy. Anybody hear about her bristling at a reporter recently for asking about kids as she approaches 30? She cried foul, arguing that the media wouldn’t question a man that way. She’s tried to capture lightning in a bottle with men a dozen times, and if they were good enough at the start, they never end up as that.
I predict she’ll go the way of Ashley Judd and Alyssa Milano, bitter that the elite status her looks afforded her hasn’t lasted and that she succeeded in bringing whatever man’s in her sights down to her level. Depression, loneliness, maybe some adopted orphans. It won’t end well.
@Larry Kummer
The moderates helped get us into this mess in the first place. In any compromise between good and evil, only evil will benefit. We need a Pinochet or a Franco.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the last good democrat. Also the last politician I remember who started a program, saw it fail, and then recommended it be scrapped.
@jg1 WHOA, that picture right at the top is not subtle at all is it? If you perform with a giant serpent and the fires of hell, maybe, just maybe, you’re not on the side of the angels.
Sorry, but I REFUSE to watch any video of Taylor Swift (or similar ilk), no matter how instructive the experience is supposed to be.
We’ll calm down when Taylor finally comes out.
Haha.
Lecturing the rest of us about inclusion while wearing BOSS. Irony is dead.
Of course but it’s just the standard rehashing of Hillary’s message: The hip/rich/beautiful/successful people are all on board the LGBT express, baby … if you aren’t, you’re one of the toothless unwashed deplorable Christian hater hillbillies. Which side ya wanna be on? Rich/beautifiul or toothless, unwashed bigot?
That’s the entire point.
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Is Miss Swift not a Marie Antoinette for our times?
Taylor Swift. What a waste of a fantastic pair of legs
“Lay not that flattering unction to your soul” Hamlet III 4
Meh. My understanding is that Taylor Swift tried to stay fully apolitical for as long as possible, but the Woke mobs pressured her too much, so she has succumbed to the pressure. She isn’t innately interested in SJW politics.
She will soon find that nothing can satisfy them.
Would pay a dollar for heartiste’s response, but can guess.
Larry Kummer wrote a good article about “Weimerica”; except his quote “Trump is one of the weakest Presidents in US history — manifestly unqualified for the job by training, experience, and temperament.” has been shown to be wildly off the mark.
Heartiste’s current outpost: https://gab.com/heartiste
He was there for some time before his blog was censored.
She needed to calm down that one time she got mad when asked when she was gonna have babies. That’s ok Tay Tay. In 10 years you’re gonna pull a Charlize Theron and ask where all the good men gone. And all your fame and money and notoriety won’t save your barren womb.
Some days I feel like Lot, vexed with the filthy behavior of the wicked. The video was ugly; ugly narcissistic hubris preachy filth. What happened to class, to virtue and beauty? If this is our culture, we have no culture. America, Rest In Peace.
@Nate the Reformer
(a) doesn’t listen to pop music enough to know who she is
I would wager that women who fall into this category would be extremely limited especially white American women. Stardusk’s video on the pumpkin spiced latte phenomenon comes to mind.
Jonadab, we are rapidly disintegrating as a country, as a sovereign nation and as a culture. People want to “blame trump”, but if anything, he has bought us some breathing room to see if we can get our act together as a nation. But so long as the invasion continues at this pace and the “loyal” opposition continues to descend into more and more insane policies, it drives the country a little more apart with each passing moment. Each illegal that walks in today brings as closer to our demise as a nation and civil society.
Look around you. Do you have much in common with the people that live around you these days? I am NOT talking about race or national origin; I am talking culturally. Do you have anything in common with most (if any) of your neighbors today? If you do, then you live in a rural area or in a place with low immigration where most people are brown and spend most (if not all), their lives in that area.
If you go to a place like California or NYC or anywhere that is being flooded by mass immigration (any of America’s Shitropolis a/k/a/ “cities”), you would understand what I mean. Even your fellow Americans have nothing in common with each other. Most have been radicalized by years of “public” school indoctrination and corrupted media culture.
If you go into an immigrant heavy area like my hometown of Orlando, Florida, you would see this at work. You have basically countries within our country and I am not exaggerating here. People who have lived in “America” for decades and cannot speak any English. They are so surrounded by services and a community so heavily from their native country, they almost never have to deal with any actual Americans. Thus they have no reason to learn the language or engage with our culture (or what is left of it). These people mass migrate so heavily, they simply create a new country within America right in front of us. And for decades we allowed DC to do this to us.
It used to be that only southern Miami (mainly the Hialeah area) was really like this, where the Cubans set-up a mini-Cuba within America. These were mostly Conservatives who were staying in the area temporarily to then re-take their country from the Communists. But after they were betrayed by JFK and Bay of Pigs failed, they were forced to stay in Miami area. To this day, it has not been until their grandkids that they started to now integrate into America.
But now, this is everywhere across America.Our insane immigration policies have turned places like Murfreesboro, TN into a Jihadist camp. Minneapolis is ISIS-land thanks to the 150,000 Somalis that were brought in at taxpayer expense by Billary Clinton (Rep. Ilhan Omar D-MN is their poster child). Detroit has become the Middle East (Rep. Rashidah Tallib D-MI. is their poster child). Orlando has become Brazil. California is literally a 3rd world foreign country in every aspect of the term. Portland, Maine has become West Africa thanks to their “kindhearted” policies towards “Refugees” where taxpayers have been bl;ed dry to provide unlimited welfare for the invaders.
Now every single Democrat is saying they are going open up the borders completely, then cancel private health insurance for all Americans and then heavily tax the same Americans to finance healthcare for any illegal alien that walks across the Border for life.
Anyone who opposes the invasion or ANY insane leftist policies are mocked, just as you saw with Taylor Swift), as toothless morons. Or you get de-platformed or banned (like me). But in America today, looking into the future is a sin, it is dumb. No one thinks ahead anymore, it is all about here and now.
This is clearly gonna end up badly, probably in violence if this is not remedied soon. Or we will have a debt/currency crisis that will wipe out the US Dollar into oblivion.
This is why you feel like you live in a foreign country, like Lot in his decaying city.
Taylor Swift has a long list of failed relationships and human wreckage in her past. it’s a lot for someone not quite 30. They’re frequently the topics of her songs, much like Phil Collins’ divorce(s) were the dubious inspiration for his songs.
What Ms Swift never seems to do, however, is examine what the common factor in the traumatic breakups in her various relationships are. That would be herself. There is something about Taylor Swift that makes Taylor Swift bad relationship material, and probably unmarriageable. I predict she will go the way of Australia’s Kylie Minogue: rich, but into her 50s and pining the fact that she didn’t get ta relationship organized sufficiently to have children.
“Beauty in a woman without good judgement is like a gold ring in the snout of a swine”
-Proverbs 11:22
And her clip sucks, complete with the satanic triple six dices at the beginning.
@Red Pill Christianity
Its not insane. But intentional .They despise the european working classes They’d rather make America Brazil. Where they get to be the european ruling class ruling over 3rd world hordes. And they themselves are permanently in power.
Ilegal invaders vote democrat almost always.
The Question
We’ll calm down when Taylor finally comes out.
Maybe she’s waiting for a Beth Moore invite to perform at the SBC national convention.
@ Damn Crackers
They’ll be male prostitutes.
@ Strike Three
A metaphor for obesity?
Have you visited a country that practices Sharia? Because, if you think the sexual degeneracy in the USA is bad, you should see those shitholes.
@ Jonadab-the-Rechabite
Lot chose to wallow in the pigsty. Avoid his mistakes.
If most mainstream churches are a-ok with the promotion of sodomy, why don’t they just have full-fledged church prostitutes.
Probably because of legal issues. Maybe they’re working on fixing those already though.
Info, you are totally right. Brazil is their goal. That is why the leftist media, for decades, promoted the idea that Brazilian women are most beautiful in the world, as they are the most mixed. But when you actually live in Brazil, you quickly see that is not true and that Brazilian beauty is grossly exaggerated. The prettiest Brazilians come from southern Brazil and they are almost entirely 2nd or 3rd generation German and Italian immigrants.
Brazil is a country where it is extremely easy to manipulate hordes of poorly educated people. In Brazil, the education system, is actually worst than American public schools, if you can believe it. The Brazilian model has been a huge leftist experiment, funded by Soros as of 20 years ago, that created a “diverse” population that distrusts and dislikes each other. Soros managed to test out all the policies we have seen in America for the last 15 years in Brazil, including GayMarriage, abortion, and drug legalization. All focus-grouped in Brazil. Brazilians who share no common identity except for love of soccer, beer, and goofing off. There, they created a Congress that grows as population grows, so they even FORCE VOTING, so that uneducated masses keep electing the most corrupt, incompetent leaders imaginable. Illiterate people (10% of population) also have to vote, so they have photos of politicians, guaranteeing even more votes for socialist parties. That is how dysfunctional the country is. The Left can only do this because Brazilians share nothing in common, no cultural identity, no racial identity, no common religious culture (even the Catholic Church there has “saints” un-approved by the Pope, for instance; they even re-made a “saint” called Our Lady Who Appeared to be black to convince more blacks to be Catholic). It is total chaos, anything goes.
There is a reason the Left wants American citizenship to become worthless and American cultural identity to vanish through immigration and erasing our history and even the flag. If anyone can come in and get full benefits and vote, then you have made citizenship worthless.
They have already raised a generation of mindless zombies called Millennials. Now they have lined up literally over 23 million welfare recipients and the Left keeps inviting in more with promises of free healthcare, welfare, and total lawlessness.
Polling and studies for decades have showed repeatedly close to 90% of 3rd world immigrants believe in “hate speech” laws, banning all guns, and massive government taxation and welfare. Only Karl Rove believe these are “natural conservatives” because of abortion views.
I am serious, if we have an illegal alien amnesty, Bernie Sanders will be remembered as a moderate and centrist politician. Christianity will be outlawed as a “hate religion”, right along with the 1st and 2nd Amendments the moment these people have ultra-majorities nationally.
Ps. Taylor Swift, heck, even Lady GaGa and Miley Cyrus are modest, conservative girls compared to the TV shows kids watch in Brazil. Their music, even music geared for children, is overtly sexual and explicit. Girls as young as 8 and 9 dress like HoochieMamas and I personally saw girls as young as 13 dating dudes in their 30s with the girl’s parents’ approval.
In Brazil, trannies basically run entire neighborhoods in major cities, like Gloria neighborhood in Rio, for instance. I have seen them grab people’s cell phones and demand R$50 to return it or they scream and call cops. They have special legal protections and immunity, just like what you see AOC and others in Congress pushing today, like the “Equality Act”, for instance. Equality to these people mean privilege and power to repress anyone who opposes their lifestyle of privilege.
The entire cultural decline we see in the USA today was around in Brazil in the 1980s and 1990s.
Brazil today is where America is headed for if we continue to allow our country to decline culturally, but most importantly, if we continue to allow ourselves to be invaded by leftist 3rd world VOTERS.
Red Pill Christianity,
It would be good if many of us started Red Pill Coaching groups like the one you lead. When you start your blog again, please share lesson plans, course outlines, helpful info on how we can start similar groups. Thank you.
This thread and other matters put me to thinking as follows: What is it about American athletes? Why do American athletes so frequently embarrass their country and themselves? No one else carries on like this.
Take for example the 1968 Olympics where two of your sprinters even on the podium took the opportunity to make the negro supremacy salute. Yeah, we get it, you won and beat all the white dudes but your physical superiority – on that occasion, we will get our revenge in Munich in 1972 – is there for all to see. Cassius Clay, whom one would have thought too sensible for this, later threw away his Olympic Gold Medal. More recently a Football player of mixed race, a man who was brought up by and treated no differently from, that is to say was given preferential treatment over his unnatural siblings, by his adoptive parents, has seen fit, the only one in his team to embarrass the flag. His antics (as his career was ebbing) has doubtless brought him wealth and fame which otherwise would not have been his but at what price. Now an ugly bulldyke whose real bitch is that she cannot literally grow a pair and who plays allegedly soccer is up to the same antics and surely with the same result. Thank God you beat our girlies for now we can forget women’s Soccer and return to the Tennis. It is not just athletes, however. Actors are in on it too. Marlon Brando a man who is now in my view unwatchable, instead of being given an Oscar which he insulting his academy refused to accept, should have been sent for elocution lessons.
Contrast that then with Scotsman, Eric Liddell who rather than make a scene that the Olympic 100 metres finals being played on a Sunday offended his Xtian sensibilities took up the 400 Metres and in the process won Gold and in the process broke the world record. That, I think, is about as good a proof of the existence of the almighty as one could ask for.
“My wife, God bless her, for what it’s worth, thinks she and Taylor Swift are twins from birth.”
Sam Baker is a Texas singer-songwriter unlike any you have ever heard. His overall ideology may not line up with many here, but who cares, he’s an artist and his backstory, as told in monologue at the beginning of the song “Angels” is pretty powerful. Listen to this song “Ditch” tho and it will make your day. Probably angers Taylor Swift and that’s okay too.
There is something about Taylor Swift that makes Taylor Swift bad relationship material, and probably unmarriageable.
Yes. It’s the “princess effect”, I think.
Swift has been in receipt of massive amounts of absolute adoration from everyone — men and women alike — since she was 15. She has some modest amount of musical talent, and she has the physique of a fashion model with a pretty (overrated but still pretty) face. She also grew up “very comfortably”, with a stock broker father and a mother who worked in ‘s. Ithe mutual fund industry before she had kids. She basically has had everything she has ever wanted in life, since she became aware of wanting things. True royalty, in the American vein.
That basically makes her unmarriageable and also un-LTR-able. Nothing is good enough for Princess who has always gotten whatever she wanted. Make no mistake, Swift also works hard and is ambitious at promoting herself, but the deck of cards she was dealt in life had a lot of aces in it. It’s just very hard for her to accept the realities of compromise, which is what every relationship will entail in some way, when she is the Princess with everything.
This is a sign of how weak Christianity has become… After hundreds of years of worshipping the vagina. Christianity has become a cucks belief to be mached and ridiculed by women and homsexuals. We either take women’s rights away or become eunuchs. We can’t stop abortion, so her rights are nearly permanent. The church prefers men to become community eunuchs, assisting old women, single mothers and land whales. All the while praising women and being an asexual, junk tucking man with no authority in his home. By the way they are selling jeweled plugs at Christian book store!
Sam Baker “Angels” if you care
On a lighter note…
Even the Millennials are growing weary of this sh*t:
https://www.rt.com/usa/463114-pride-month-debate-approval/
The other thing I see with Taylor Swift and my limited exposure to her music is not just the Daddy’s Little Princess but Daddy’s Little Drama Queen. I don’t think Shakespeare could provide enough drama for that woman.
My IQ dropped 8 points watching that video. Also, I like men now.
How can one christen ones daughter Taylor – is it even a first name? – my parents lived next door to a Mr and Mrs Taylor. Does America have the children’s rhyme Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Sailor?
So. what is it about American women: The antics of your Meghan Markle are an embarrassment, none of the Royals (except Harry) can stand her and even he gave her a public bollocking the other day. What with the Doll, the fake pregnancy, the massive expenses on Frogmore Cottage out of tax-payer money, the three nannies in six weeks,the resignation of her PR lady and her helicopter pilots, the fake birth certificate, the NDAs, her insults to her brother-in-law, the endless bitching against Princess Kate, the cringe-worthy wedding, her redesigning of her wedding ring, her gatecrashing, (it just goes on and on) the photo-shopped picture of the queen and the Duke with her and the baby and her refusal to go to Botswana (she could stay there forever) even the press are most days running anti-Sussex stories. I don’t want to say we behave better (yes I do) but we do. Even worse than doe-eyed Lady Di; Wallace Simpson however did not behave like that but then she was not a ‘yacht girl’.
Just another satanic idol they get you to like them personally then slowly crank up the ungodliness and idiots fall for this crap. I Disengage from media
@locustsplease, it’s very bad but getting much worse. Look at this resolution in the California legislature: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200ACR99
^Misusing government to persecute the righteous, on behalf of the immoral, begins with codifying immorality using government bodies then using that as the legal basis to “justify” the persecution of the righteous.
@purge187, tell it to this boy who’s being grossly abused by his own mother in such a way that it’s bringing the pedophiles a running. https://neonnettle.com/news/8012-mother-of-child-drag-queen-complains-pedophile-is-sexualizing-her-son
Novaeeker
Yes. It’s the “princess effect”, I think.
Emblematic if not iconic of modern women. No wonder she is so popular with special snowflakes,
As a bonus, her background is such that she has zero contact, empathy or even comprehension of the way ordinary people in the US actually live.
“Taylor Marie – Antoinette” would be a good nickname.
@American:
A woman who lets his son dress in drag and let’s him do “sexy” dances in adult gay bars for money yet complains that pedos are harrasing him is like a woman who lets her dogs in the house because they are her “babies” yet she gets mad when her “babies” rip up and poop all over her new leather couch. Coming to think about it maybe this woman also owns a fuckload of dogs and cats and they keep her company while she pimps out her kid.
And also, I had a thought. You could take every known pedo out there, put them on an island, drop a 1 megaton bomb on them and evaporate them, and guess what? Nothing changes. Because if the target demographic is gone, so who’s gonna pay to watch preteen boys and girls act like slutty adults? Mommy is simply trying to look for an ‘audience”. It’s kinda like with this whole #metoo mess. Now that men are setting distance from women and actually acting like gentlemen, women are pissed off that no man will pay attention to them and that explains the wild behavior. Deep in, they WANT men to treat them like crap just do they receive validation and stuff, just like Mommy up there secretly wishes more pedos lust after her son, because him (and her as well) get stuff and attention. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mommy took inspiration from Taylor Swift.
@ Opus
She’s part of your royal family now, and tomorrow we’re celebrating the reason we’re not obliged to give a damn about your royal family, so enjoy!
@Red Pill Christianity:
Being a soccer fan, I was watching a certain docushow called Football Factories International where they went and explored hooligan culture around the world. And they went to Brazil and they actually went to the city of Porto Alegre in southern Brazil. They talked to the hooligan group for the club Gremio. Turns out, these guys want to separate their state of Rio Grande do Sul from Brazil and they even forgo some “traditional” Brazilian habits such as samba. And they are not alone.
And it’s interesting you mention the women. I’ve never been to Brazil, but I’ve noticed that even though both Rio and Sao Paulo have gorgeous women, they don’t have the characteristics of the blondes from the south. Plus I’ve noticed the farther north you go, it’s definitely more mulatto mixes, and that it’s pretty violent up there. Now I see why the folks at Gremio want to separate from Brazil. I suppose partly to keep their women away from the hordes in the favelas.
@Oscar
Had you not had a temper tantrum (one supported actively by only a small minority of the colonists) there would not have been the desire on the part of American women to acquire delusions of Princessory (or for American parents to name their male children Duke, Earl, Prince or Count – or the second, the third and so on). Meghan like all American girls has seen too much Disney and travelogues of European castles – the reality of being a Princess (which incidentally she is not – as she is a mere Duchess) – is a lot harder. Her role model should be the queen’s daughter the Princess Royal not Cinderella. We don’t need to send her back as she will do that of her own accord ere long. #Megxit
Happy 4th July for tomorrow – and may you all live up to the aspirations of your founding fathers.
Opus the first.
Here it comes, gents.
https://spectator.us/women-penises-transphobic/
If you won’t have sex with a dude in a dress, you’re a bigot.
@ Opus
Tomorrow, I’ll be celebrating our prerogative to not care how “hard” your royal family has it.
Oscar
If you won’t have sex with a dude in a dress, you’re a bigot.
Taylor “Marie” Swift
Calm down!
Opus said, “How can one christen ones daughter Taylor – is it even a first name? – my parents lived next door to a Mr and Mrs Taylor. Does America have the children’s rhyme Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Sailor?”
Yes, we have that rhyme but probably less than one percent of children here have ever heard it. Few American parents read poetry to their children. As to naming a child “Taylor,” mothers sometimes re-purpose their maiden names as their child’s name. If Grampa Taylor has daughters and no sons, there will never be a Grampa Taylor III. Naming the grandchild “Taylor Smith” pleases Grampa and his entire side of the family.
However, at this point, some of the Taylors are undoubtedly named after Taylor Swift rather than someone in their own family named Taylor. According to babynamewizard.com, Taylor started off as a unisex name in the 70s, peaked in the 90s after reaching Top Ten status and transitioned toward being a female-only name, and has failed to maintain its popularity since then.
As modern baby names go, it isn’t that bad. Nearly everybody can spell it and pronounce it, in contrast to a lot of the names that are now popular. In any case, it looks as though the name Taylor will die out over the next ten years.
Many here would be grateful if you could find a way to make her stay over there.
Most churches would welcome her and those like her into their arms if she darkened their doorsteps. They can careless about her beliefs. From what I’ve seen churchianity cares more about male sexuality than any deviancy from women. Practicing lesbians can go unnoticed, while all males will get the unwarranted”side-eye” from time to time.
Is she supposed to be attractive to anyone? She might be compared to many modern women, but I am not drawn to her physically at all. Blech.
This is a work of propaganda, as should be obvious. It’s over the top by many standards, but one can find videos that preach the same line in a much more restrained way as part of corporate diversity training, as well as at major colleges. The normalization of LGBT is ongoing at the societal level, and for people under 30 there’s only one position they can publicly say. One doesn’t have to cheer with Taylor Swift, but for sure better not disagree in public. It is very much like the various 20th century tyrannies, in fact.
Note the tagline. It’s part of the push to include sexual orientation in Civil Rights law. BIg Tech (Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc.) are all on board with this. Smaller businesses will need to think hard; on the one hand, your bakery doesn’t have to bake a cake, on the other hand…
How many churches could carry on their operation if they lost tax exempt status, I wonder? The rate of social change continues to accelerate, so what was unthinkable 20 years ago is now normal. What is unthinkable now? What will be normalized by 2025?
Be Prepared.
@BillyS
They don’t care, because you are not the target market.
If you won’t have sex with a dude in a dress, you’re a bigot.
Yep, although that was inevitable. I mean if the slogan “trans women are women!!!!!” is made to stick, of course refusal to date such women could only be based on anti-trans animus, because one is attracted to “women”, and “trans women are women!!!!”. In fairness, it seems to be impacting women more than men, because there are a substantial proportion of female to male transgenders who are attracted to women, and therefore the main “fight” in this area is taking place in the lesbian world, where “trans women” are heavily pressuring lesbians to date them.
Either this will be the last straw, and will not hold, or it will be made to stick, and homosexuality then becomes mandatory under penalty of being excluded from social and economic life on the basis of bigotry. It will be interesting to see which way the chips fall on that.
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The normalization of LGBT is ongoing at the societal level, and for people under 30 there’s only one position they can publicly say. One doesn’t have to cheer with Taylor Swift, but for sure better not disagree in public. It is very much like the various 20th century tyrannies, in fact.
Yes, although it isn’t just people under 30. In corporate and academic environments (and also increasingly in social ones like dinner parties and so on) no-one of any age can openly criticize LGBT without facing repurcussions.
substantial proportion of female to male transgenders … should read “male to female transgenders”. I get all this stuff confused and backwards pretty easily it seems. The “female to male” transgenders are far fewer in number among adult transgenders, and therefore are having much less of an impact, at least currently (note well, though, that the trend among HS and college aged people is the reverse, with more female to male transgenders).
Novaseeker
In fairness, it seems to be impacting women more than men, because there are a substantial proportion of
female to malemale to female transgenders who are attracted to women, and therefore the main “fight” in this area is taking place in the lesbian world, where “trans women” are heavily pressuring lesbians to date them.Fixed that up a bit for you. Lesbians find “M to F” (surgically mutilated men) to be “problematic” in more than just dating, they often do not want to associate with them except for some events where “queer solidarity” is expected. Although I suspect that is more true for women over 35 than under, given what we know about female sexual fluidity.
Although sometimes I wonder what the long term implications of hormone / surgery are on both men and women. Even without the much higher suicide rate among the surgically mutilated, all the hormonal treatments alone cannot be of benefit to basic longevity – effects on the heart and endocrine systems just for a start. A generation from now this could be viewed with more disgust than cigarettes are today, and a never-ending series of civil trials ongoing.
Either this will be the last straw, and will not hold, or it will be made to stick, and homosexuality then becomes mandatory under penalty of being excluded from social and economic life on the basis of bigotry.
Well, given the way “freedom of choice” has mutated steadily into “freedom to obey”, it is not outlandish to posit scenarios in which part of puberty is a mandatory homosexual experience with a government licensed sexuality counselor. Just a logical extension of “Drag Queen Story Hour”.
This isn’t intended as some sort of “doomer” rant, but rather a brief discourse on possibilities people should be ready to deal with, to resist / deflect.
20 years? I would say that just 5 years ago that tranny acceptance was unthinkable. The rate of acceleration is breathtaking. I fear that our society will be singing the praises of pedophiles in a few more years.
What is interesting is that our multinationals shove the LBGT agenda down the throats of other countries, threatening to divest and take their business elsewhere if they don’t dance to the LBGT tune. Of course these multinationals don’t seem too concerned about how little these foreign workers are paid or what kind of squalor they live in. That’s A-OK.
This sounds very plausible. Some psychiatric or other “mental health” organization will claim that unless your children experience such encounters, that they are being abused and should be removed from your home.
I am amazed when I see young people who still have children. Either they are on board with what’s coming or they are either clueless or hopelessly optimistic.
20 years? I would say that just 5 years ago that tranny acceptance was unthinkable. The rate of acceleration is breathtaking.
I agree.
It’s rather sobering to remember that in 2008 the left-progressive Democratic candidate for President, who eventually won that election, took the stand that he considered marriage to be between a man and a woman and that he was not in favor of gay marriage.
That was 2008. And from a *progressive* politician, mind you. 11 years ago. And today, no-one can voice that sentiment outside of trusted close friends and agreeable family members without substantial negative repurcussions socially and economically.
In the space of around 6-7 years, an opinion that was voiced by a successful left wing Presidential candidate became grounds for being sent to diversity training in order to “mark one’s views to market”. I do not think we have ever seen social change happen this quickly and this thoroughly to something as fundamental in the history of our species. It’s breathtaking what happened. And I think that breathtaking pace of change just left many people so numb in its wake that the trannies were able to rush in on the coat-tails of it and make factual realities on the ground (with the aid of the Obama administration) that quickly stuck and were enforced in the same breath as the gay marriage new orthodoxies were.
It will be interesting to see if it sticks. It’s hard to imagine it won’t, in the sense that it won’t be dismantled (apart from the “general dismantling” of all), but it will be interesting to see if a limit is reached at some stage … or not.
Bee, I am still looking for a good host for my site. No way I am doing all that again to get deplatformed/banned again, so unfairly too. The site was a work of art, with quality graphics, sidebars with chat, forum discussions, vids, and much more. All gone, poof. I have the materials, but no way I am doing all that again to be forced out so easily. And worst part is, we are pretty sure the two “complaints” we received were from relatives of a couple guys from our in-person small group. 😦
I actually have a short guide on “how to start your local Red Pill Group locally”, which is save on my desktop PC, of course.
My current “Red Pill” men’s group (aptly named “Red Pill Christianity for Men” (RPCM) had a 6 week hiatus as I was in Ukraine for a little over 6 weeks and we just got started again this past weekend. It was disappointing to the guys, since my website was a forum for open discussion with basically zero moderation-censorship.
To be frank, this all started by fate. I was basically “handed” a small “youth men’s group” with 4 guys that had no youth pastor anymore (he moved to help his mom in MI) and my church could not afford to re-hire anyone at the time. When I was initially offered this, I refused on the spot, as I did not want any more commitments given my work and schedule. But pastor persisted and I said yes. First meeting was at the church’s “event room” in back and it was just a huge success. But as with anything in life, success attracts attention and attention draws criticism.
We eventually moved form church room to Panera, which was a disaster, as lookie-Lou’s and eavesdropper would come in and start asking questions or straight-up attack the discussions. We changed locations and same happened, because it is not often you have a group of men having open discussions about topics that as men we NEED to discuss, outside of the restrictions of church setting. This is real life, not some movie where everyone is perfect and everyone just behaves like Christ. The point of the RP meetings is to talk and to seek solutions and encouragement.
So we moved into homes and conference room at my office building. We rotate houses, but most of the time, it is at my conf room. It is weird, but we can talk freely, we have a white board and TV with Blu-Ray and much more.
Think about it this – how often can you have an open discussion with men from your church that will not end up as a “scandal” or create a backlash from Pastor or the Femino-“Christians” around you? This is what we do. This is why it works. We all agree everything is confidential under pain of law and talk openly. Unless we have such a forum, we will suffocate and die as Christian men.
It has become apparent to me that sadly, churches do not believe in men’s ministries, even free ones. It doe snot matter that men are happy with it and praising some advice that is Red Pill and preventing men from becoming cucks of a feminist cancer that has infected Western churches. Churches focus on “male behavior modification”, even for adult men. That is set to fail. Success comes form self-improvement and desire to become the man God wants you to be. Male behavior modification (via Churchianity) is based on shame and peer pressure against the even most basic male instincts. It is a failure. It drives men away from church (which is Fem goals anyway).
My site will be back up again soon…. in meantime….
Does anyone know of SOLID HOST that will not deplatform on a whim or a couple degenerates online? I am ordering domain name again through Epik, since they are the “SwissBank” of names, it seems).
Videos are going on BitChute, as they do not ban so easily. Will have Gab too, no Tweezers for me. 🙂
Any ideas for me? Thanks! Happy 4th, everyone!
Opus said: How can one christen ones daughter Taylor – is it even a first name? – my parents lived next door to a Mr and Mrs Taylor. Does America have the children’s rhyme Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Sailor?
The same crazies feminists who name their daughter Emerson, Morgan, and Harper. Not the mention the actress Blake Lively (yes that is her real name!) named her daughter James.
She is not an artist just a performer Most of the “hits” sound the same as 25 years ago are written by two middle aged men. They write for the usual pop star creations. Brittany, Ariana, and.Taylor to name a few. This is a 13 minute clip which is accurate and to the point. Also if you have time check out videos on the “Millennial Whoop”.
AR,
I know she is not aiming at me, but I expected her to at least be attractive. Yes, she is a slut, but she should at least be an attractive slut, but that is not true.
Perhaps it is just her hitting the wall. I still have a hard time believing people don’t want those who are attractive in these roles, but then Miley Cyrus made herself very ugly when she shaved her head, so perhaps attractiveness has been lost.
(None of this would be beauty, since that would require non-slut and other things.)
Red Pill Christianity,
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to your new blog. All the best to you.
20 years? I would say that just 5 years ago that tranny acceptance was unthinkable. The rate of acceleration is breathtaking.
Remember my prediction. No later than 2021, some cuckservative cartoonish pastorbator will crow about how ‘pro-marriage’ he is, by demanding that men marry some MtF transgender. He will outright pressure them, and say with a straight face that he is defending ‘traditional marriage’.
When I first made this prediction, most here scoffed. Now, I don’t think anyone denies it could happen, nor are many saying 2021 is too soon for such a spectacle.
Is she supposed to be attractive to anyone?
Hmm. Always an interesting discussion in the manosphere, I think — the things guys like are extremely, extremely different to the point where a woman one guy finds super attractive another one thinks is a completely unattractive 2.
As for Taylor, I think she is attractive, at least to my eyes, but it depends on the type you like I think: https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/taylor-swift/vanity-fair-magazine-september-2015/Taylor-Swift:-Vanity-Fair-Magazine-2015–07.jpg (from 2015). Again, not everyone’s type, but seems quite attractive to my eyes.
True Novaseeker. I suppose my view of attractive is certainly biased and a slutty look throws it off. She looks better in the picture you noted, though how recent was that and how airbrushed was it? (Or the digital equivalent of that.)
I met someone at a social gathering recently who was reasonably attractive, but the tattoos threw that out the window. I am drawn to more thin myself, not caring much about other things (such as the prettiest face), but I have an old friend who likes women with a little meat on them, to paraphrase his words.
@ Billy
Are you seriously saying that if a woman who looks like this was interested in you in real life, you wouldn’t find her physically attractive?
Obviously cut hair, boyish body, masculine clothing. No thanks. A girl needs enough curves that I won’t feel like I’m holding a man in my arms, and something to make me think she’s appreciative of men instead of envious.
But at least she isn’t self-harming with visible tattoos or piercings.
I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already.
Oscar,
The woman in your picture is attractive. Taylor Swift in the video was not. To me at least.
Novaseeker
Hmm. Always an interesting discussion in the manosphere, I think — the things guys like are extremely, extremely different to the point where a woman one guy finds super attractive another one thinks is a completely unattractive 2.
Basic rules of attraction; men as a group have a wider range of attractors than women. Call it evo-psych, call it “God made us that way”, it doesn’t matter. The wide range exists, and can be demonstrated and documented in various ways. This is so basic it should go without saying, yet it’s always September in the androsphere so we must restate these things regularly.
In more than one way, variance among men is greater than among women. Men are the experimental part of the human race, women are the conserving part — not just in genetic terms. This is why there are no cases of a group of women outfitting a sailing ship and departing for parts unknown – it is antithetical to their inherent, conserving, nature.
Variance of attractors cannot be explained to women. I once sat in a public place drinking coffee, looking at my laptop and listening to a man attempting to explain this to a woman. She had flippantly and casually said what an awful girl she is – obvious Beta Bux bait.. He was trying to genuinely explain in a blue-pill way “There’s always some man who will be attracted to you” and she doubled down on her bad-girlness. The ink all over her arms and shoulder had already signalled this to me, but I’m wasn’t really the target market for that babble. She didn’t get what he was saying, she literally couldn’t understand it, it was too far over her head.
Returning to the OP:
This vid is a kind of advertisement, selling a certain product; a political campaign. Everyone and every thing in the vid therefore has a carefully calibrated appearance. The people this is aimed at, the target market, will find those appearances appealing.
Those who are not the target market will not. This is a feature of the vid, not a bug.
Taylor Swift isn’t ugly in body. She is ugly in attitude and personality, which is infinitely worse. You can’t change the genetics you’re born with, but you can change your views, outlooks, attitudes and demeanor.
By embracing the Lunatics Who Have Taken Over The Asylum Ms Swift is bending over backwards to make herself as ugly as sin. The outcome isn’t going to be pretty.
@ BillyS
It’s the same woman.
@ Gunner Q
If a tall, slender, leggy blonde in her 20s isn’t physically attractive enough, you may be suffering from the same impossibly unrealistic standards from which women suffer.
What a useless debate.
A tall, slender woman who is otherwise pretty, can opt to look garish and disturbing for a gay-centric video, as is the fashion now. Why is this worth a lengthy debate? Some attractive women even shave all or part of their heads, as is the fad these days.
Much like it is silly that there was a 30-comment debate about whether Wendy Griffith is just somewhat attractive for her age, or very attractive for her age. Does it make a difference for the purposes of this discussion at all?
Novaseeker said :
the things guys like are extremely, extremely different to the point where a woman one guy finds super attractive another one thinks is a completely unattractive 2.
This is not true at all. Whenever Heartiste posted the various ‘rate this girl’s looks’ polls, not only did he assert that beauty was objective and most men would be just +/- 1 point from the mean, but the actual polls confirmed this. A consensus of ‘7’ received almost no votes above ‘8’ or below ‘6’.
Beauty is objective, and standard deviation of rating is not high. It is simply not true that, barring the most extreme outlier votes, a woman might get any significant number of ratings of both ’10’ and ‘2’.
Beauty is objective, and standard deviation of rating is not high. It is simply not true that, barring the most extreme outlier votes, a woman might get any significant number of ratings of both ’10’ and ‘2’.
Except we have some here saying that Taylor Swift is not attractive — one based on that video (it is hard to imagine that this is the only time that person has ever seen a picture of Taylor Swift, but I suppose it’s possible), and the other saying she was boyish and short hair and so on.
There is more variance among men than Roissy acknowledged. I have always been very surprised at actual discussions in the sphere apart from that post at his blog about specific women and how much disagreement there was — and it generally has not been the difference between a 7 and an 8, it’s been “she’s really hot” vs “no thanks” or “unattractive”. That’s a pretty big variance, and we see it right in this thread.
@ Novaseeker
Yeah, there’s a reason for that, and it’s likely not variance.
A woman can be manifestly physically attractive, but the moment she opens her mouth, she might instantly become a 2.
It could be intelligence (whether lack thereof or intellectual arrogance), annoying voice/habits, mean/harsh/nasty (easy to spot, very quickly), politics, or sense of humor.
IOW, subjective characteristics (voice, personal scent, opinions, etc.), may rocket her to10 or plumm her to 2. It depends on the guy.
A brilliant, gorgeous Eastern European woman once latched onto me at a party. By the end of the evening, I could barely stand her company. ZERO sense of humor and she kept ranting about “the rich,” hypocritical considering she was obviously from an elite family. She wanted to see more of me, but an evening hanging out with this humorless Commie princess flipped a switch on my powerful physical attraction.
For a pickup, “attractiveness index” will probably be pretty consistent, being purely looks based. For anything other than a “b*ng,” especially looking for a life partner, the calculus changes.
Red Pill Latecomer – re:hosting mee.nu might be an option.
At the very least from conversations I’ve seen over the years between the guy running the hosting and several blogs I follow he would give you a straight answer on whether or not you would be likely to encounter problems. I don’t know that his hosting supports forums however – it might only support a ‘comments’ section.
*plumm = plummet
I should add about my Eastern European, she was the most graciously feminine woman I’ve ever met. Even her hard-core socialism was iron-fist-in-velvet-glove. While I’d never dream of quitting my day job to do comedy, there’s always laughs in my conversations–and she didn’t laugh–not once, all evening.
And one general comment re: trannie/homo/etc.
A prime discussion subject around here is the utter corruption of institutional Christendom, from the Catholic hierarchy to the various pastors. Grass-roots champions of Biblical sexual mores win hard-fought political victories convincing people of the rightness of God’s teachings, only to find their efforts crushed instantly by political chicanery abetted near-universally by religious “leaders.”
The Almighty will have to make an appearance, soon. For many decades, those acting on His behalf have gotten only negative reinforcement. Nobody will keep fighting on His behalf (and He would have no right to expect it) if real, moral (dare I say beautiful, as was Prop 8 in CA) victories keep transforming with diabolical swiftness into catastrophic losses and brutal repression, with church leaders tacitly or even openly assisting.
Jack Russell says:
July 3, 2019 at 8:15 pm
Opus said: How can one christen ones daughter Taylor – is it even a first name? –
Apparently parents DO call their daughters “Taylor”.
Witness this cute thing, who has learned failure early in life…
There is hope…
@Oscar
Unless I missed something, BillyS kept to the caveat that he didn’t find her attractive in that particular video, not saying Swift is simply unattractive to him. So I think you’re beating a dead horse there.
This happens all the time with starlets. One of the best examples is the leading women from Game of Thrones. If you look them up on Google/DDG Images you can see plenty of photos that range from “yeah, I’d probably hit that” to “how many stories down is the window if I need it to get away from her?”
Short (between 5’0″ and 5’5″), brunette and a roughly even split between athletic, curvy and petite. That’s what does it for me, and that’s exactly what I got.
Taylor swift is objectively “pretty” but does absolutely nothing for me.
When I am in my cowboy boots and Mychael is in flat shoes (about 90% of the time this is us) I am almost a foot taller than her. Swift appears to be outside my preferred height range, has blonde hair and looks to me as if she is made out of some kind of space-age polymer or other synthetic material.
I think Rollo has discussed this from time to time on his site. Its the difference between “cute” and “classic beauty” or “gorgeous.” I always prefer the former.
Anonymous Reader: The normalization of LGBT is ongoing at the societal level … BIg Tech (Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc.) are all on board with this.
Amazon just banned books by Christians advocating gay conversion therapy: https://www.christianpost.com/news/amazon-stops-selling-books-catholic-psychologist-lgbt-activist-pressure.html
Amazon has permanently removed from its website books by Joseph Nicolosi, who was often referred to as the “father of conversion therapy,” in a move some say portends censorship of anything Christian regarding sexuality.
For months the global online retail giant has been petitioned by LGBT activists who have urged the company to discontinue selling the works of Nicolosi, a clinical psychologist and Catholic author who died in 2017, NBC reported this week. Nicolosi wrote several works about homosexuality in men and therapeutic approaches for persons with same-sex attraction.
Amazon also disallowed Catholic attorney David A. Robinson from selling his book on the platform in which he shares his personal story of leaving homosexuality. Robinson’s short book, Orientation and Choice: One Man’s Sexual Journey, was sold on Amazon for nearly a year before it was removed last week.
When Robinson inquired why this happened, an Amazon representative informed him in an email — which was forwarded to CP — that during a review they found his work was in “violation of our content guidelines” but did not explain why or point out which parts were objectionable. …
Portnoy says: Red Pill Latecomer – re:hosting mee.nu might be an option.
You meant to respond to Red Pill Christianity, not me, Red Pill Latecomer.
However, I checked Mee.Nu anyway — and my Norton Security wouldn’t let me access it. Norton says this is a “High Risk” site, and that Mee.Nu sent me a “Web Attack: Fake Tech Support Website” and an “Intrusion Attempt.”
I don’t know if Norton is protecting me from Mee.Nu’s web attacks, or from Mee.Nu’s un-PC content.
Novaseeker,
Except we have some here saying that Taylor Swift is not attractive — one based on that video (it is hard to imagine that this is the only time that person has ever seen a picture of Taylor Swift, but I suppose it’s possible), and the other saying she was boyish and short hair and so on.
They are comparing very different instances of her looks, which is particularly precarious for an individual who, as part of her career, will necessarily change her looks a lot, which will always include some deliberately bad presentations (such as for the gay video).
Tell you what, just take the below video of her on a talk show where she is not the only guest (and hence not a music video), and judge her there. I predict that the average she would receive based on this video is an 8, with almost all ratings falling between 7 and 9.
But no, I don’t think there will be any instances where, assuming the votes are serious, the same woman, judged on the same photo or video, will get both 10s and 2s from voting men.
There is more variance among men than Roissy acknowledged.
But his polls confirmed this.
The only real variance that stood out was that black men has a rather surprising preference for overweight women – women that any other race of men would distinctly describe as ‘fat’. But that was the only type of significant variance that emerged in poll after poll.
Oscar,
I agree with Il D. The two pictures present a different woman. I would question the exact date of the video and the photo. I bet they are a few years off, but that may or may not be true. It does show how packaging is very important to beauty as well. Though you overlooked that the photo has almost certainly been touched up quite a bit and I doubt she looks/looked that well in person no matter what.
@Larry Kummer, Editor
“great sociologist…Patrick Moynihan”
OT: The Other McCain’s recent coverage of the MacKenzie Lueck (sugar baby) murder case is interesting.
A little off-topic, but relevant to this discussion: I am actually irritated the US Women’s Soccer Team won the female World Cup. This is one of the few times I am upset the US won an international event.
Why? Because purple-haired ButchDyke co-captain Megan Rapinoe, a rabid anti-American zealot is now going to be elevated as a deity of sort by the left wing media. This FemiNazi freakazoid is now going to be made into a “role model” for a whole new generation of American girls.
As if they are not already carpeted with enough bad influences, from the Karadashins to Miley Cyrus to Taylor Swift to other spoiled, tattoo-laden “women”, and now we throw in heat another “heroic” purple-haired, man-hating, America-hating freak.
Must be fun being a Christian father of daughters these days. Sigh.
A while ago it struck me, what music in times of old sounded like:
Abba Hey Hey Helen “ABBA” (1975) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL8BeKJSODI
So at last you’re free
It’s the way you wanted it to be
And the price you paid
To become a woman of today
Is it worth the pain to see the children cry
Does it hurt when they ask for Daddy
But they made one, that is even “worse”:
ABBA – One Man, One Woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcdB8NpmNPg
The title is alone “homophobic”, “ployamorophobic”, “necrophobic”, “zoophobic” and “pedophobic”, the lyrics are “hedonophobic” (opposed to hedonism).
Our love is a precious thing
Worth the pain and the suffering
Worth the pain? Aren’t humans just props to be used for personal enjoyment? Well, they didn’t use to be.
(I’m aware, that ABBA has produced other, more “modern” songs as well.)
RPC
Megan Rapinoe,
Just from the few pictures I’ve seen, it’s likely she’s on a variety of PED’s, specifically including Testosterone. But that’s ok, because GirlPower.
Here is part of what Taylor Swift’s video is selling.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/07/08/drag-show-mile-high-comics-protests-denver/