They thought he was chivalrous (not that there’s anything wrong with that)

From the Daily Mail, Modern day dandy, 25, who has dressed only in Regency-period clothes since burning his jeans at 14 says his eccentric attire has seen him receive ‘countless offers of marriage’:

Zack has a huge legion of online fans who adore his historical clothing, but has also been getting quite a substantial amount of interest from female followers.

He said: ‘I’ve received many marriage proposals and many other things.

‘I think it is indicative that women want a gentleman and someone that cares about his presentation and appearance.

‘For me, it is a bit of wrong tree wrong forest situation.’

H/T Instapundit.

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60 Responses to They thought he was chivalrous (not that there’s anything wrong with that)

  1. I bet all of those offers of marriage came from guys

  2. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    I’ll accept that the offers came from women. But these offers don’t mean anything.

    The women merely wanted to meet him upon seeing his photo. A free meal. A cool selfie for her social media. These women knew that, should they not feel anything upon meeting him, they were not obligated to marry him.

    Women often use hyperbolic language. It doesn’t mean anything.

    A woman’s Best Friend Forever today, is her Frenemy tomorrow.

    A woman’s One True Soulmate today, is her The Relationship Just Came To An End tomorrow.

  3. justdoit says:

    Women, stop objectifying that poor Zack. He is only doing it for himself! (that’s what the article says). Stop ogling him when he walks down the street. Stop the catcalls. Why can’t a man wear whatever he wants without being subjected to scary attention and equally scar marriage proposals?

  4. The Inimitable NEET says:

    Decked out in historical garb, he invokes the type of Romantic ideal that women think they want in a man. One only has to see how legions of fans freaked out over Meghan and Harry’s wedding. The mere accouterments of royalty sparked their imagination into dreaming of all the attention and acclaim they deserve.

    Of course, that admiration all vanishes the moment he insists on wearing said coattails and top hat in public. It’s one thing to LARP as a VIctorian gentleman, it’s another to embarrass the missus at a Lakers game.

  5. okrahead says:

    I expect that many of the women were serious in pursuing him. He’s a walking billboard for what PUAs say about “peacocking.” Don’t underestimate the value of being the one who stands out in a crowd.

  6. American says:

    He’s right to nip the M word in the bud, before it destroys him down the line. The gold-diggers can try their hand on Markovik’s stable of dandys.

  7. The Inimitable NEET says:

    @okrahead

    I highly doubt it. The idea of dating him is more appealing than the reality, which would be one of endless awkwardness and acquaintances chuckling behind their backs.

    On the subject of peacocking, the PUA community hasn’t endorsed such a garish use of it since the old Mystery days.

  8. justdoit says:

    Chivalry or courtly love or equality. Pick any ZERO.

  9. Gunner Q says:

    Red Pill Latecomer @ 4:12 pm:
    “The women merely wanted to meet him upon seeing his photo. A free meal. A cool selfie for her social media.”

    Seconded. In fact, the idea of women wanting to take a selfie with him reminds me of a new business I saw at the beach the other weekend. It’s a… um… hmm…

    https://selfieville.com/

    “Selfieville was founded on the idea that no dream is too big to attain and everything you want in life you can have if you work for it. This experiential museum consists of a 3D light show and countless exhibits that give you the opportunity to capture the perfect selfies in fantasy worlds. 25% of the profit from each ticket will go into a fund to support local non-profits that work with foster children in California.”

  10. locustsplease says:

    Im kinda surprised he doesnt have a girl he must have a large attraction. There has to b plenty that wouldnt mind all that attention. And while im not into crap like dressing up 1800s the guy is self employed and has to have incredible frame to pull this off. They are probably literally beating down his door like he has a fresh felony.

  11. First of all, those of us who know Brighton in the UK are not in the least bit surprised by a dude in that kind of flamboyant “Dumb and Dumber” party getup. Also, the word “dude” should have sarcastic quotes around it. Just like that.

    Second, such women look upon this “Dandy” as a veritable Edward Ferrars from Jane Austen’s Sense & Sensibility (Hugh Grant). Deep down, sub-consciously most western women age 30+ will strongly identify with the Elinor Dashwood (Emma Thompson), less so the young Marianne.

    I always find it interesting how actress Emma Thompson was 36 years old portraying a character that Jane Austen always intended to be only 19-years. By the way Marianne was supposed to be 16, not 24. Both got married at story end so whatevs.

    Elinor (a widow) incredibly escapes spinsterhood. And young Marianne gets her heart ripped out by alpha fucks John Willoughby but fortunate enough to survive pneumonia and settle on the invisible but very utilitarian and wealthy Beta Bucks, Colonel Brandon.

    So yeah, after you read Rollo’s books, every damn romance film you ever watched, and every musical ballad you ever heard is pretty much ruined.

  12. Dalrock says:

    @locustsplease

    Im kinda surprised he doesnt have a girl he must have a large attraction. There has to b plenty that wouldnt mind all that attention.

    Perhaps one of my British readers will correct me, but I read his response to all of the attention he receives from women as explaining that he bats for the other team:

    For me, it is a bit of wrong tree wrong forest situation.’

  13. Novaseeker says:

    I read his response to all of the attention he receives from women as explaining that he bats for the other team:

    Yep, pretty clearly what he was saying, I think. I mean you have to be blind to think otherwise.

  14. BillyS says:

    The flamboyant ones usually do….

  15. locustsplease says:

    Thats what i thought but normally they shove homosexuality out there so much i cant remember it getting tucked under a rug-swept aside.

  16. Novaseeker says:

    Folks may not know this, but Brighton/Hove UK is sort of like Provincetown Mass … it’s one of the hubs of the gay community in England.

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  18. @locustplease He dresses like an 18th century dandy every single day. He IS shoving it in your face.

    “For me, it is a bit of wrong tree wrong forest situation.’ That line has a double meaning. The first is that he is homosexual. The second is that it’s so obvious that he’s homosexual that you’d have to be obsessed with him not to see it.

  19. locustsplease says:

    Sorry but the only thing i see on tv about british people is with them dressed about like this. Seriously. Like if the only thing i saw from kentucky was the derby it might not give an accurate view. I get it hes gay why didnt these homophobes tell me about it? Huh huh!

  20. Lexet Blog says:

    He is a tailor, so this is excellent marketing for himself. I’m sure nearly every person who passes him makes some remark, to which he provides a business card.

    Smart young lad

  21. Scott says:

    Man that’s crazy that hes gay though. I never would have guessed.

  22. Scott says:

    OT, Hope everyone had a non-threatening, risk-averse, non-confrontational, totally not toxic fathers day and talked about your feelings or whatever.

    https://ljubomirfarms.wordpress.com/2019/06/29/birthday-and-fathers-day/

  23. Oscar says:

    So, does this count as “peacocking”?

    Asking for a friend….

  24. American says:

    @Oscar, given what we learned about him after Dalrock’s insight: you could say that he’s “peaCOCKing” alright. Another immoral degenerate. At least he’ll be one less beast of burden for the feminists to exploit.

  25. Opus says:

    Brighton is as you can see by the sea and is together with Hove (the posh part – such that people say when asked whether they live in Brighton ‘Hove actually’ such that it is now referred to as Hove Actually. There is a population of about 300,000 and the gay guys live in what is known as Kemp Town but their numbers are only twice the national average. Politically, Brighton returns two members of Parliament one of which is the only Green M.P. so you can see how soy-boy climate-alarmist it is. In the sixties however it was infamous for fights between the Mods and the Rockers; that is to say Moped riders (the mods) and motor-bike riders (the Rockers) young men down for the day from London which is about seventy miles to the north. Glyndebourne Opera House is about ten miles to the north. My little brother lived in Hove Actually and his next door neighbour was a tranny who had a rather pleasant girlfriend – nothing Gay in Hove, you see.

    Brighton has a Royal Pavillion built in Moorish style. It also had two piers one of which was destroyed in a fire. It also has ‘the lanes’ which are a bohemian shopping district. Baby Spice lives there. I have photos of myself with a young American woman whose name I cannot now recall on one of the piers.

  26. Otto says:

    Women want to be the center of attention. He has created a situation where he is always the center of attention. Thus, women want to be with him so they will always be at the center of attention.

  27. purge187 says:

    “Folks may not know this, but Brighton/Hove UK is sort of like Provincetown Mass … it’s one of the hubs of the gay community in England.”

    My late Mom said that she once saw a man “walking” another man with a dog collar and leash on P-Town. Isn’t that lovely.

  28. Spike says:

    One recalls the early 1980s pop-music scene and women were swooning over Culture Clubs Boy George.
    When us guys in school pointed out the obvious, girls would indignantly and sometimes violently (slapping our bodies not hurting but still violent) condescendingly inform us, “You’re just jealous. He’s artistic…..”
    The of course, out of the closet he comes and they’re shocked.
    They have lousy perception. But then again, that’s how the pop music world rolls

  29. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    @purge187

    My late Mom said that she once saw a man “walking” another man with a dog collar and leash on P-Town. Isn’t that lovely.

    Its called pup-play and Hollywood has been promoting this since even the 80s

  30. Nick Mgtow says:

    The women like the attention he gets, and, the look, thinking that’s what they want. Truth is, they’d get bored of him pretty quickly, if he wasn’t the alpha bad boy type, but just a regular guy.

  31. Opus says:

    George O’Dowd (Boy George) seems to have appealed to females partly because of his sweet (not strong) voice and also because as a man he was colourful and entirely non-threatening. My girlfriend of the time clearly preferred Boy George to me even when I went to the Pianoforte and provided my own rendition of Church of the Poisoned Mind – I rather liked that song. Then she went lezzer hooking up with a rather butch female. Ever since, June has been Shame month (at least for me) as I try to live down my toxic masculinity being rejected for a girl.

  32. The reason why women like gay men is because they dress so well,usually and they know how to talk to women. A much overlooked method of getting women is to dress very well. A man who wants to go down this route should look as if he has spent a considerable amount of time shopping for clothes and then spent two hours putting his ensemble together. He should be totally ‘ on point’ from head to foot.

    If your first response to the above was:’So I’ve got to develop a girly obsession with clothes and look gay to other men to get women?! I ‘ll give all that a hard pass’ . You are overlooking a potent weapon in your seduction arsenal. A sharp stylish image will go a long way to offset a lack of height,an average appearance and a lack of muscles.

  33. BillyS says:

    Hippo,

    The one on the left was spoofing Chewbacca, not a homosexual fantasy. The modern effort to push it everywhere is a problem, but so is finding it under every rock.

  34. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    This Sunday morning I was a Black Knight.

    I was taking a walk. At about 6:30 a.m., I passed a woman on the sidewalk. She asked me for help. I asked what was wrong. She wanted me to call her an Uber or a cab. She said she had no cell phone, and she didn’t know where she was.

    She looked to be her in mid 30s. She reeked of alcohol. She looked disheveled. I wondered if she was homeless.

    I asked, if she didn’t know where she was, how did she get here?

    “I got inebriated,” she said. Her exact words. Not drunk, but “inebriated.” She didn’t slur her words or wobble. But she stank strongly of alcohol.

    I considered calling her a cab. (I don’t have an Uber app.) But then I thought, the cab company has me on their computer file. I use them often. What if this woman can’t pay, or gets quarrelsome with the driver, and my name and number are on record as having called the cab for her.

    As she said she didn’t know where she was (though she knew which city), I advised her to walk down several blocks to Wilshire Blvd, and that she could pick up a bus there.

    “Ah, just call me a cab!” she said.

    Instead, I walked away. I felt a bit guilty about that. A bit unChristian. But it was a bright, sunny Sunday morning, in a safe area. People jogging or walking their dogs. I figured she was safe.

    She must have had a wild Saturday night, to be standing on a sidewalk on Sunday morning, no cell phone, not knowing where she was, and still reeking of alcohol.

  35. Oscar says:

    This seems appropriate.

  36. Opus says:

    @Stephanie G

    Smart clothes is proxy for large Bank Account which is proxy for successful.

    @Red Pill Latecomer

    It is understandable that you feel ill at ease, but you did the right thing. Reminds me of the occasion late at night when a female asked me to escort her drunk friend who was sitting on the kerb to the nearest hospital. I told her that as she was a strong empowered woman (the hospital by the way being hardly a hundred yards away) that she could get their under her own traction for which advice I received a mouthful of four-letter abuse. Better that than a subsequent accusation (true or false) of attempted groping and for all I know she could have been under-age – (but what age would that be?). Wilshire Blvd – that’s near the sea is it not – I took the single-decker bus from Anaheim (?) down to the ocean, once: it was a long enjoyable ride – she can cool off in the Pacific and regain her memory that way in fact I am pretty sure it is by now almost fully recovered.

  37. Gunner Q says:

    BillyS @ 9:36 am:
    “The one on the left was spoofing Chewbacca, not a homosexual fantasy. The modern effort to push it everywhere is a problem, but so is finding it under every rock.”

    +1. Spaceballs also has the best spoof ever on the kung-fu princess trope. That wasn’t pushing feminism.

    I would have happily paid money to watch Carrie Fisher reenact “They shot my hair!” even after menopause but no, we got Star Whores instead.

    “She must have had a wild Saturday night, to be standing on a sidewalk on Sunday morning, no cell phone, not knowing where she was, and still reeking of alcohol.”

    You did the right thing, no question. She could very easily have had “regret rape” over last night’s I-can’t-remember-him-but-this-other-guy’s-name-is-on-the-receipt.

  38. Mountain Man says:

    Opus,

    This is off-topic, but since I’m a geography nerd, and an L.A. area resident, I feel on overwhelming urge to tell you about Wilshire Blvd. The western terminus of Wilshire is at Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica, which is very close to the ocean. All it would take is a short walk down the bluff and across Pacific Coast Highway to dip your toe in the Pacific. But from there Wilshire runs east (inland) for over 15 miles (25 kilometers), so there are many part of Wilshire which are nowhere near the ocean. Just FYI.

    Thus ends your completely unimportant geography lesson for the day.

  39. Frank K says:

    The one on the left was spoofing Chewbacca, not a homosexual fantasy.

    Yeah, Spaceballs was a Star Wars satire. It also made fun of a lot of LA Jewish tropes, like when the King tells Lonestar that he bought the Benz from a cousin in the valley who owns a dealership, and Lonestar doesn’t want to hear about it.

  40. feeriker says:

    Stephanie G (@MsStephanieG1) says:
    June 30, 2019 at 8:46 am

    One of the Cardinal Rules of the Androsphere: any advice from women to men on how to attract women should either be ignored or the polar opposite action taken to what has been advised. Far too many men have been destroyed or permanently maimed by heeding such guidance.

  41. Anon says:

    feeriker said,

    One of the Cardinal Rules of the Androsphere: any advice from women to men on how to attract women should either be ignored or the polar opposite action taken to what has been advised. Far too many men have been destroyed or permanently maimed by heeding such guidance.

    Indeed. A woman is no more able to coach men on how to do well with women, than a child is able to similarly coach an adult about the challenges of the adult world.

    For example, if an attractive women set out to legitimately teach men Game without any FI bias, she would become a famous billionaire quickly, even if all of her material is 100% lifted from male PUA teachers. Yet, there is no such woman who has taken up this opportunity (again, just like there is no 8 year old who has a YouTube channel with 20M adult subscribers telling adults how to be good parents).

    Stephanie G may mean well, but she has no idea how women think (and no, being a woman does not mean she knows how women think; quite the opposite in fact).

  42. Anon says:

    Otto,

    Women want to be the center of attention. He has created a situation where he is always the center of attention. Thus, women want to be with him so they will always be at the center of attention.

    That is a large part of it, yes.

    Another part of this is that such a dandy, if walking on the street, is a target for getting beat up by some street ruffians. Women get aroused by that as well, and the dandy is just an expendable prop (much like the chunks of fish used to attract Great White Sharks to tourists in shark cages).

  43. Oscar says:

    @ Frank K

    It also made fun of a lot of LA Jewish tropes, like when the King tells Lonestar that he bought the Benz from a cousin in the valley who owns a dealership, and Lonestar doesn’t want to hear about it.

    Yes, the king’s cousin gave him “a very good deal”.

    Also; “Funny, she doesn’t look Drewish”. Then they reveal that princess used to have a big nose, but she got plastic surgery as a sweet 16 present.

    Mel Brooks is just about the Jewiest of LA Jews, yet he always loved to poke fun at his own people, which I respect. Besides, he was Combat Engineer in WWII, so as a fellow Combat Engineer, I have to respect that.

  44. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    @BillyS

    The one on the left was spoofing Chewbacca, not a homosexual fantasy.

    thatsthejoke.jpg

    I imagined a youtube prank where someone crashed a Pride parade in a Barf costume on a leash and see if they could get in the frame on the news. Maybe they have a dress code that prohibit that though.

  45. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    I’ve received many marriage proposals and many other things

    I bet most of those pervettes were old enough to be his older sister, probably fat, too. Sick.

  46. DeepThought says:

    Handsome guy but gay. What a waste to the gene pool.

    Globo Homo is destroying western society.

  47. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Yet another Strong Independent Single Mom kills her son: https://news.yahoo.com/police-hampton-va-arrest-mom-172351311.html

    As usual, the article makes no mention of a father.

    Police in Hampton, Va., have arrested the mother of a missing 2-year-old and charged her with three counts of felony child neglect.

    Tomlin, 34, initially said she last saw her son, 2-year-old Noah, at 1 a.m. Monday in his bed at a mobile home park in Hampton’s Buckroe Beach neighborhood.

    Hampton police chief Terry Sult said Friday night that they believe the toddler is dead. “Unfortunately, to date, Noah has not been found,” he said. “Based on the highly coordinated investigation we believe him to be deceased. This leaves us a little bit speechless, but the search for Noah continues. We’ll never give up hope.” …

    Seems you can post a story like this every day. Or even several stories per day.

  48. Frank K says:

    Mel Brooks is just about the Jewiest of LA Jews, yet he always loved to poke fun at his own people, which I respect.

  49. Oscar says:

    @ Frank K

    That’s hilarious!

  50. BillyS says:

    RPL,

    But women care more for children! Right? /sarc

  51. Asaph says:

    My aunt keeps telling me to improve my clothing style

  52. Yet another Strong Independent Single Mom kills her son

    Stories like hers, Casey Anthony’s, etc. are why I think it’s about time we abolish our current laws and go to two standards of criminal homicide:

    * Manslaughter: you were stupid, committed a misdemeanor that went crazy or moderately negligent but clearly had no felonious intent.
    * Murder: did you intend anything felonious toward the person and they died? We’re not God. We’re not going to try to dig into the contents of your heart once the prosecutor has established that but for your felonious intent the victim might be alive. Express ticket to meet your maker.

    I pray to see the day we have a shitlord in the Presidency who will wield the civil rights laws against state judges on the grounds of “intentional, disproportionate and systematically discriminatory sentencing” between genders.

  53. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Female game designers are creating abortion-themed video games: https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/jun/28/the-women-game-designers-fighting-back-on-abortion-rights

    … As Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi and Ohio work to reverse hard-won reproductive rights with “fetal heartbeat” bills and potential 99-year sentences for performing abortions, game designers in the United States – and around the world – are creating interactive experiences that challenge the simplistic ways that many people think about abortion, and the blunt, often ignorant cruelty of the laws that politicians have drafted around their constituents’ bodies. …

    In Choice: Texas, a game that uses the interactive fiction tool of Twine to tell its story, you’re also asked to live out a variety of scenarios through the eyes of five women who discover that they’re pregnant. They come from different economic and vocational backgrounds; they are different ages and races. Each of them runs into different complications in Texas, a state where legislators have actively worked to reduce the options around reproductive healthcare – particularly for the poor and working class.

    For Polish game designer Aleksandra Jarosz, the draconian 2016 political effort to further restrict abortion laws in Poland – where abortion is already largely illegal outside of exceptions for rape, incest and fetal abnormality – spurred her to take action.

    The proposed legislation was spearheaded by Jarosław Kaczyński, leader of the Law and Justice party, who said it was his goal “to make cases of even very difficult pregnancies, when the child is doomed to die because it is severely deformed, finish with birth, so that the child can be baptised, buried, given a name.” …

  54. feeriker says:

    Female game designers are creating abortion-themed video games:

    The good news is that 1) there are very few female game designers, and 2) the few who are out there generally lack either the creativity or technical acumen to put out anything other than mediocre crap.

    It’s doubtful that this will go anywhere. More likely just attention whoring.

  55. They will do for women in video games what Obama has done for the prospects of having another black President in the next 20 years.

  56. Red Pill Christianity says:

    Western societies have become freak shows. Just watch “reality TV”, it is a freak show. Naked & Afraid. My 600LBS Life. Jersey Shore. Hoarders. Hotel Paradise. Mean Girls. Pretty Little Liars. Mom (TV show with Chris Pratt’s ex). Mike & Molly. Married at First Sight. OctoMom. TV shows glorifying teenage single moms. Keeping up with Kardashians. It is a freak show of depression, obesity, violence, selfishness, excess, and trash. If you ever wonder why our society has gone to hell, turn on any reality TV show and see the trash kids are spoon fed every single day.

    So when a guy dresses like he is back in 1820, the freak show fans come on to him. They want weird, they want unusual, they want new. Then suddenly, they bore of it and it goes away. This a fad, 15 minutes of fame. Most girls that “propose” to this guy do so for attention, they think “I will have a life like Pride and Prejudice”. Then reality kicks in, they show selfies with this guy and her friends laugh and embarrassed, she will say it was just a joke.

    This is just a part of a freak show. Once novelty wears out, the freak-show lovers need more outrageous trash to keep themselves going. I wonder if they watch depressing trash like this to make themselves feel better. Maybe they watch My 600-lbs Life and think “see, I am in shape even though I ‘only’ weigh 250lbs” or watch dysfunctional shows like “Mom” and think they are doing a great job having 5 kids from 5 different men. That kinda thing.

    Ps. Although I would never dress like a 1820s “Dandy”, clothes make a huge difference in life. I wear a suit jacket, dress pants, and button-down shirt to work and many social events and even though I am sometimes “over-dressed”, I get a lot of positive comments and have an easier time cold-approaching women. Clothes do make a difference because they show Status, which if often even more important than personal good looks in a man.

  57. Red Pill Christianity says:

    Casey Anthony is a perfect example of a PP (PussyPass) in action. But she is not even the worse. Look up “Andrea Yates”, who’d admitted to murdering 5 little kids and got released after some “mental counseling”. Women are almost never punished for crimes men get life in prison for. The PP is real, folks.

    Personally, I rather see women abort than murder kids after they are born, because the Left wants to legalize this “after birth abortions”, as “women’s rights”. Ask any feminists, even “moderate” ones “when it is it a baby?” And they will virtually all say “when the woman takes it home”. Anything before that is a target for murder. They want to expand the definition of “abortion” to include kids at anytime they happen to inconvenience a woman’s life. That is what happened with Andrea Yates and Casey Anthony.

    Most women who abort do so because they feel powerful to legally murder a living human being. It is what I call the “Elizabeth Bathory syndrome”. Women who want to murder another human being (baby) because they are highly unhappy people and feel powerless inside their own minds. In reality, they hold all the cards in our Western culture. But they are so self-destructive they cannot yield that power responsibily, so they turn to infanticide to feel “empowered”.

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