Charlize Theron has us trapped.

In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.”

― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

A few weeks back commenter Nick MGTOW shared a link to a Men’s Health story about 43 year old Charlize Theron asking where all the good men have gone:  Charlize Theron Says Somebody ‘Needs to Grow a Pair’ and Ask Her on a Date

“I’ve been single for ten years—it’s not a long shot,” she said. “Somebody just needs to grow a pair and step up. I’m shockingly available…I’ve made it very clear.”

I did some digging and while today she is complaining about the lack of traditional men, just a few years ago she was outspoken (in word and deed) in her rejection of tradition.  People magazine quoted her in Charlize Theron Adopts a Baby Boy

Though Theron is surely thrilled about expanding her family, she has previously spoken out about not feeling the need to tie the knot. Marriage, she said last year, was “never something that was important [to me].”

But then I saw that she was taking her rejection of traditional roles a step further, and was dressing the unfortunate boy as a girl.  I decided against a post on it, because Theron is simply too weird, too crazy to offer as an example of the trends we see all around us.

I reconsidered this decision today after Larry Kummer reminded me of her statement, and after reading an article from Fatherly.com linked from Instapundit.  The piece is by Lauren Vinopal, and is titled Why Am I Unhappy? Because All American Men Are Getting Sadder.  Fatherly warns that modern men are unhappy because they can’t shed their toxic masculinity in response to the triumph of feminism:

Unlike femininity, masculinity is regularly challenged, policed, and taken away. This causes more “toxic” men to behave badly and many other men to live unhappy lives.

…the shrinking of the middle class and traditionally male dominated industries as well as the rise of dual-income family as a cultural norm has required men to pivot into unexpected roles and grapple with concepts at odds with internalized notions of manhood. Equally terrified of the #MeToo movement and being misconstrued as gay, men stumble down an untenably narrow middle path.

“Although these shifts are exceedingly positive, they can be daunting and intimidating for men,” Manly says. “This is a rather off-putting shift for those who have found safety in the left-brain, ‘logic is superior’ mentality.”

The whole piece is unintentionally hilarious, and therefore very much worth reading.  It reads like a propaganda piece that was somehow blended with the author’s diary entry obsessing over the fact that the propaganda clearly isn’t working.

After laboriously arguing that men need to free themselves from traditional ideas of masculinity in order to be happy, the article closes by inadvertently explaining that what men desperately need isn’t yet another invitation to talk about their feelings, but a chance to do manly things with other men, without women (like Vinopal) barging in:

…Manly and Moore agree that such groups can be far more casual and may attract more members if they are. A basketball league works as well as a talk session.

“Men are desperate to be a part of groups of other men,” Moore says. “The opportunities for men to bond with one another have become fewer and fewer, and so they feel more isolated and less connected, and in come cases become depressed.”

But as unintentionally funny as all of this is, we shouldn’t celebrate.  We lost, and the feminists won.  We lost in large part because we had conservatives constantly assuring us that there was no feminist rebellion in progress.  When women demanded to enter all male spaces, up to and including combat roles in all branches of the military, conservative Christians concocted a fantasy world where no such rebellion existed.

Now we are trapped inside the psychotic mind of modernism.  On the one hand we have progressives, represented by Theron gleefully dressing a little boy as a girl.  On the other side we have conservatives, represented by Theron denying reality and sternly admonishing men to man up, to grow a pair.

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101 Responses to Charlize Theron has us trapped.

  1. Anon says:

    It is sad that she is so insane. She was extremely pretty in her day.

  2. tenari says:

    what a strange and extremely uncommon co-occurence: a hot woman who is crazy! Who would have thought?

  3. Scott says:

    The one thing I like about all this is that masculinity is now a clean slate, from a social perspective. It has no definition. No core. No internal hard wiring to speak of. We are now free to redifine it however we please.

    The bar for what is or is not manly is so incredibly low at this point that whatever you offer as distinctively male is so novel, so different from what mainstream pretends it is, the only way left is up.

  4. Mitch says:

    On the one hand we have progressives, represented by Theron gleefully dressing a little boy as a girl. On the other side we have conservatives, represented by Theron denying reality and sternly admonishing men to man up, to grow a pair.

    That flat-chested future cat-lady is the one who needed to grow a pair.

  5. swiftfoxmark2 says:

    She was dating Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind for three years before they broke up in 2001.

    She has no right to complain.

  6. feministhater says:

    Oh dear, you can’t give her back now. She’s all yours! Lol! Hahaha!

    She is one delusional witch. She speaks with a dangerous tongue, always has, always will. She fully used her youth and beauty to garner wealth and fame. Now she wants a man to step up? She had countless of them do so when she was youthful and fertile. She had the pick of the crop but none of them were good enough.

    Now she spends her time damaging the poor souls put under her care by a deluded state that thinks turning a boy into a girl is normal…

  7. TheTraveler says:

    We lost, yes.

    But no political victory is ever permanent. Especially if it’s anti-God and anti-nature.

    “Chase chase nature out with a broom, and she’ll climb in through the back window.” –Old saying.

    We might not live to see it, but things will recalibrate. This will crash and burn, because it MUST. It already is.

  8. Jim says:

    Insane narcissistic cunts and cucky soy-boys are a dime a dozen these days.

  9. feministhater says:

    She really has become the monster from that film. Reality imitating art. Vulgar. Urgh!

  10. Durasim says:

    Single for ten years? Didn’t Sean Penn pump-and-dump her a few years ago?

    By the way, ever wonder what happened to Lolo Jones?

    “I will not compromise on my morals and this is an amazing gift I’m giving to my husband so he better damn well be worth it,” she added during the episode.

    https://madamenoire.com/1060213/lolo-jones-virginity-dating/

  11. Wraithburn says:

    It would have been nice if the link to the author’s name in the article listed info about her. I had to go googling to get a picture,she looks rather smug.

    How do you post an image in these comments anyway?

  12. Anonymous Reader says:

    Psychotherapist Carla Manly explains…and explains…and explains….

    Manlysplaining?

    Can’t make this stuff up!

  13. Gaza says:

    @Scott

    Indeed, masculinity is arbitrary. Men handed over what it means to be a man to women in exchange for a handful of magic beans.

    And as women are wont to do, they fed masculinity into the moral shredder of the ‘female prerogative’, along with most everything else we call Progress.

    As such, we are in the fickle, fleeting state of the fluid attempting to form the vessel.

    The ‘clown world’ meme is rapidly emerging as the most apt in my book.

    Honkey the clown demands us to accept that 1+1=3, then wants us to solve for 2 while she honks around town.

    When men can’t cull 2 from the ether, Honkey blames men for failing to believe hard enough in 1+1=3.

    When men break their pencils to produce what looks like 3, Honkey longs for the real 2 to save her from all the weak maths happening to her.

    When men somehow make 2 look like 3 to please her, Honkey decides she is just ‘unhappy’ and detonates into empowerment where she goes back to demanding 1+1=3.

    Then a bunch of men decide they would rather put their finger into the pencil sharpener than go through the clown world contortions, which of course, is toxic masculinity and must be shamed.

  14. Durasim says:

    Maybe Charlize Theron should watch one of her scenes from “Snow White and the Huntsman.” It does not look she had to put much effort into playing this character. Maybe that has something to do with her single status?

  15. anonymous_ng says:

    How can anyone have missed this one at Mens Health. The blowjob machine.

    https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a27104322/blowjob-machine-viral-video/

  16. thedeti says:

    @Scott:

    But masculinity isn’t really a “clean slate”. The women who wring their hands over why men are so unhappy are the same women who demand that men still continue to fill “traditional” male/masculine roles like the following:

    –provider. Men are still expected to earn the money to pay for everything. If they cannot, they are looked on with disdain and contempt.

    (Women are now outearning men. It’s pretty well established that women do not want to support men financially. Women are showing and demonstrating that they deeply, viscerally resent having to support a husband they out earn. Not only that, these women hold their lower earning husbands in total disdain, unless that lower earning husband is in a masculine profession like a trade, or police officer or fireman.)

    –protector; use of brute strength, violence and threats of violence to protect women and children, including women and children they’re not even related to. Men are expected to put themselves in harm’s way to protect women and children at all times. Men who won’t do this are scoffed at and called pussies.

    –using superior strength in the service of women (lifting/moving things, heavy housework, etc.) Men are still expected to do this simply because they can.

    So, yes, even though “masculinity” is (supposedly) shifting, women show their attraction for traditionally, conventionally masculine men. (Like that feminist who wrote about her sexual attraction for a “toxically” masculine man.)

    and the big ones:

    –when on the first several dates, the man pays for everything, even if the woman he’s on the date with outearns him. Why? Because “you’re the man. Men are supposed to pay for the date.” (in reality, it’s expected to be earnest money/down payment on the sex she might give him. “Men are supposed to give me something in return for the sex I give them.”)

    –men are just supposed to help women, wherever they are. Why? Because “you’re the man, and men protect and provide for and help women. That’s just what they’re supposed to do. Because you’re bigger and stronger and you can do it and we can’t.”

    –men are more responsible to protect women when they’re intoxicated. If a man and woman are on a date, and they both get intoxicated, he is responsible for himself AND for her. If they have sex, she is deemed conclusively unable to have consented, and he is conclusively deemed to have raped her. Why? Because “men are supposed to protect women at all times, everywhere.”

    –men are more responsible under the criminal law for injuring women than women are for injuring men. Why? Because of men’s superior strength and size. “It’s easier for men to injure women physically than it is for women to injure men. Men can do more damage with their fists and feet. Therefore, men are more criminally culpable than women are.”

    –What “Real Men” are supposed to do.

    “Real Men” step up and man up and marry single moms, because they need husbands and their bastards need billpayers (er, sorry) “fathers”.

  17. Dave says:

    C’mon Dalrock, Chateaue Heartiste has a post that really throws it all back in her face in regards to her complaints and the head case she really is… we are not really trapped…. her complaints are from a position of powerlessness, so simply take the ZFG attitude towards her and her adopted virtue signalling props.

  18. vfm7916 says:

    I would disagree with Dalrock here, in the characterization of two items: “We” and “On the other side we have conservatives”.

    While this is a binary world those are false binary choices. Conservatives conserve nothing. The term can be exchanged equally with Cuckservative. They will run to lick their progressive masters hands for their favor. They are not of the right. Neither are those churchian Complementarians. Their survival tactics are the same as cuckservatives: nobly fight and surrender, muh principles, and abandon those who hold traditional patriarchal culture to be true.

    This is where you have to come full circle and realize that if the progressives and the cuckservatives denounce and SJW swarm an idea, a people, a religion, or a sex then those represent the Good. They represent order, life, creation, and God.

    There’s no grey area here. Those grey areas that were allowed in the past have become black pits of hell that consume and destroy those that allow them. Complementarianism sprang from the grey area of courtly love, popularized through entertainment and subsequent internalization into art, philosophy, and culture. Look what damage it has caused! Immigration is the same. Slow, over the course of centuries, yet it rips nations and peoples apart when they cannot stop it. Study the history of the english language. What is there but migration, war, displacement, and then the development of a successful civilization that only remains due to its repulsion of migration? Christianity is no different. It fights now to survive because a great many can’t understand that the time to say “No” is at the smallest allowance for grey area.

    So, reject the cuckservative. Reject the progressive. Those that do that are the “We” I consider myself a part of. We’re not conservatives.

    Here’s where a little lighter reading is handy. Go find Victoria on Amazon. It’s a good story, and much of it can even be read for free. The best lesson is that the “isms” are death traps. Progressivism, fascism, feminism, complementarianism, all go to the same pit.

  19. Anonymous Reader says:

    You post images via a link that points to the image, jpeg and png work well.

    Example from a popular meme generator
    “https://media.makeameme.org/created/complentarianism-is-a.jpg”

  20. thedeti says:

    Gaza:

    “Clown World” indeed.

    I’m supposed to be whatever the powers that be tell me is “masculine”, but not toxically so.

    In the meantime, I’m still supposed to move things for women, let them borrow my car, give them money, pay for my dates with them (whether or not I get laid), shield them from harm when they get drunk, intervene when their thug boyfriends start dropping pimp hand on them, and then marry them when Felonious Thuggerson leaves them with a bastard.

  21. Anonymous Reader says:

    She could have some issues. Daddy issues in particular. I’m not a psychologist or anything, just saying…

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Charlize_Theron

    She grew up on her parents’ farm in Benoni, near Johannesburg.[11][12][13] On 21 June 1991, Theron’s father, an alcoholic,[13] physically attacked her mother and threatened both her mother and her while drunk; Theron’s mother then shot and killed him. The shooting was legally adjudged to have been self-defence and her mother faced no charges.

  22. American says:

    Self-centered wall hugger. Let’s ask Dan if he wants to date his fellow Australian “Charlie.”

    Lots of men still learning the hard way, like Dan.

  23. thedeti says:

    American:

    This is why you remove a woman like this from your life the very first time she says or even hints at anything like “he hit me” “he assaulted me” “he raped me” “it feels like you raped me”.

  24. Charlize decided to adopt two african kids. Shocker, old single mommy mudsharks are low value in the dating market.

  25. This is one of the biggest lines Dalrock has written, stating a fact rarely mentioned:

    “We lost, and the feminists won.

    Recognition that we lost the last battle – and got our asses kicked – is often the key to changing the game – and winning.

  26. American says:

    I would add, regarding the C. S. Lewis quote, that Lewis asserts a spiritual bankruptcy associated with possessing no virtuous religious sociocultural worldview but also on page 24 that “no justification of virtue will enable a man [or woman] to be virtuous.” It’s only the application of right virtue which “irrigate[s] deserts.”
    Lewis argues against relativism. He models the mind of man as the head (center of intelligence), the stomach (center of desire), and chest (center of will). He argues that removing what he calls the “TAO” (e.g. knowledge and application of universal true value) results in “men [and women] without chests.”
    He explains how arguments from progressivism, utilitarianism, and instinct based on ethics to debunk this “TAO” (e.g. certain states of affairs intrinsically meritorious) can be used to debunk themselves resulting in an infinite regress. He then argues against those various positions from a traditionalist view arguing for self-control of of our innate instincts. Lewis ties all this into the Christian worldview. It’s a profound book, one of his very best imo.

  27. vfm7916 says:

    @Larry

    What is winning?

  28. American says:

    @Larry, agreed. Dalrock’s last two paragraphs are on par with something C. S. Lewis might write today if he were still alive and witnessing all of this. They’re profound enough to cause a blue-pill tradcon to have a [full stop] after reading them should they grasp the enormity of what they just read.

  29. Spike says:

    Dalrock, for the first time ever, I think you picked low-hanging fruit: Charlize Theron is the prime example of a woman with delusional cognitive dissonance.
    First, she ”is terrified of being married” in her 20s. Then she adopts some 3rd Worlders in her 30s, while taking movie roles that hate men. Yes – hate them. ”Mad Max” was only there for the credits and to lure people into the cinema. She starred as some lesbian female James Bond, the name of which I was too disgusted to remember. All in all, she is a complete basket case. She should have that quote – ” Marriage… was never something that was important [to me].” brought up each and every time she complains about being single.
    Regarding the rest of the article, spot-on. On the one hand, society (women + craven politicians) tell us that every aspect of masculinity needs to be policed and tempered. Then they bemoan the lack of masculinity. Is it any wonder our boys are showing signs of falling apart mentally?

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  31. CSI says:

    Of course she’s been with men in the recent past, and had men approach her. Apparently none of them have been sufficiently Alpha to count as men though.

  32. Jed Mask says:

    “But as unintentionally funny as all of this is, we shouldn’t celebrate. We lost, and the feminists won.”

    You’ve only “lost” if you quit fighting…

    Who besides God has the “final say” on who “lost” or “won”?

    It’s not over til’ it’s over and the real issue are the men who have “quit” vs. the men still fighting against all these evils.

    Where is the “faith” here?

    Feminism has beaten me, I HAVE DESTROYED FEMINISM BY THE HOLY SPIRIT OF LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    Let’s quit this beta, effeminate supplicating behaviour and HOLD OUR FRAME AS MEN.

    The tide is turning now. I just wonder how many guys will be out there to support the change when men take back their rightful natural headship…

    ~ Bro. Jed

  33. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Charlize Theron: “I’m shockingly available.”

    Freudian slip?

  34. CSI says:

    And Spike I remember a more recent movie she starred in, who’s name I can’t remember either. In that she played a middle class American housewife with a doting Beta husband. In line with feminist doctrine, this existence is portrayed as so harsh, so grueling, it causes her character to go onto a state of PTSD-induced psychosis.

  35. Charles B says:

    Brother Jed, I personally sympathize with you more than you can ever know. I am a stalwartly rebellious soul who personally thinks that I’m not beaten until I’m dead and maybe not even then.

    HOWEVER, Dalrock is not referring to the eternal truth or to us individually in our souls. He means the cultural and legal battle has been completely won by egalitarianism and feminism. Our souls may belong to God but our every action is under the complete and total rule of a philosophy of lies. It is impossible to live a Christian marriage with out putting yourself in incredible legal jeopardy with the state.

    Only in Muslim lands could I possibly live in a marrige according to God’s commandments for men and women.

  36. imnobody00 says:

    To be fair, women have also lost.

    Their natural narcissism is stimulated from an early age. Then they are told by everybody that their role in life is to have a career and be independent. That they should wait for marriage and, meanwhile, ride the carousel. This goes against their very nature and biological needs.

    They are followers, not leaders. If everybody tells them the same, how can they know the truth? It took me 20 years to figure out and I am very independent in my thought. Women are herd creatures and have the hamster.

    When we were young, the people that should have cared for us (our fathers, our teachers, our media, our politicians) lied to us. They sold us a bill of goods because utopia, ambition or virtue signaling were more important for them than us. Millions of lives have been wasted because of their lies, both for men and women.

    Women can be very cruel, selfish and can repeat all the feminist mantras but don’t forget that they are also losers. They are completely miserable.

  37. Lost Patrol says:

    Fatherly warns that modern men are unhappy because they can’t shed their toxic masculinity in response to the triumph of feminism:

    She’s wrong. Refusal to shed our toxic masculinity in response to the triumph of feminism is the only reason we’re still happy.

  38. ikr says:

    @vfm Victoria on Amazon? Can you provide specific reference to this literature? (Cannot find it)

  39. feeriker says:

    We lost, yes.

    But no political victory is ever permanent. Especially if it’s anti-God and anti-nature.

    It could just be that we’ve been on the receiving end of a correctively loving “ass whupping” from God for the last few decades, the result of us having collectively abandoned Him (in the form of rolling over and letting women give in to their base desires and letting them usurp the roles and responsibilities God gave us as men). We might just now be in a “time out” period where He’s letting us absorb the punishment He’s dealt us, giving us time to regain our senses and follow Him again. If or when that happens with a sufficient number of us, it will be game over for women and their current rebellious, BSC nonsense.

  40. TheTraveler says:

    @feeriker

    Your idea has great merit.

    Another intriguing possibility, based on a reported vision of Leo XIII, is that God gave Satan almost unlimited latitude for a century, to “Destroy the church.” IOW, allowing Christendom to become one big, huge Book of Job.

    Not sure if I believe it, but it would explain a lot. Including the destructive behavior of Christian so-called “leaders,” that transcends denominations.

  41. anonymous says:

    Hi Dalrock –

    OT, but as a regular reader it seems appropriate – I missed this when it first came out, but I think this is an idea that may be on fertile ground. https://orthosphere.wordpress.com/2016/02/04/a-pact-between-factions-of-christendom/

  42. Burner Prime says:

    Throughout the entire episode of the PBS series Mr. Selfridge S3E8, men are portrayed as weak and women virtuous. In one scene the HEAD of security gets floored by a small female thief, dropped to the floor stunned, impotent, holding his nose. This results in a cute girl getting hot and bothered by his display of total ineffectiveness, and she works hard to show how innocent and demure she is to persuade him to ask her out. This is the subversive stuff in every TeeVee show these days and obviously contrary to reality. In fact, anti-masculinity and chivalry is shown to be greatly rewarded by the finest women available. Throughout the episode men display their ineptitude, yet the women still reward them with love when they drop to their knees in worship of the V. The men grovel and weep, and the women are oaks with unassailable principle.

  43. tteclod says:

    Why didn’t you address the most obvious reason nobody’s interested in her?

    She’s a “mother” to negros.

  44. tteclod says:

    @anonymous
    There will be no “pact” among divergent Christian sects because the murders of one sect’s adherents by another sect’s adherents is too fresh.

  45. Hmm says:

    “To be fair, women have also lost.”

    True. This is only now becoming evident as an unintended side effect of feminism, and Theron and the other female whiners are the canary in the coal mine. To riff on Lewis, you crush masculinity and then wonder where the men are. You criminalize machismo and then can’t find someone who treats you like a man should.

    You broke it, but you won’t be able to fix it, or see it fixed in your lifetime.

    Get used to the cats and your ungrateful single-mom kids.

  46. Scott says:

    The “pact” idea in the linked post from the Orthosphere is not going to happen on a large scale, or be signed/agreed to by the authorities in those traditions.

    About a year ago, the ideas of small “packs” (not pact) of men informally and organically coming together to support each other in their goals, dreams, hopes, fears, successes, failures, or whatever bubbled up to the surface, and I (humbly) suggested that I already one such pact of three. It just worked out that way, totally on its own. We are three distinctly red-pill dads, one Orthodox, one non-denominlational protestant, and one something like Anglican.

    What is at the core of our association is being married fathers. And supporting each other in that role against the absolutely confirmed fact that we will never in our lifetimes receive that support from the society at large. No doctrine. No statement of faith. Nothing like that.

    We live in three different regions of the country. And still we have a ongoing text thread is several years old now. Just “hey my daughter did XYZ and my wife is being difficult about it” I got a new job and I’m nervous about how its going to play out, pleas pray” and stuff like that.

    Sometimes a few months will go by and we don’t speak. Then all the sudden, a flurry of texting or emails, even calls.

    My sincere hope was this would be a template or prototype for groups like this all over red-pill land. I even invited two more to make the group 5. The other two were Orthodox and it quickly offset the balance and homeostasis of the group, and now its back to the three of us. The additional two Orthodox guys were the ones who could not contain their engagement to the one rally point–supporting one another as fathers and husbands.

    Kind of bummed out about that, but I wouldn’t shake the two I have left for anything. They are truly my pack. The only rule we really have is “no second guessing the other guys authority as leader of his family.” All of us has expressed at one time or another how cool it would be to live in the same town.

    We can adamantly disagree with the WAY he makes decisions.Or what he decides. But once it is made, that is it.

    If I tried to have a conversation and made that assumption the starting point with any of the men I know IRL I would be scolded for “lording my authority over my wife and kids,” no matter how gentle, loving, caring of a leader I am. I would be AMOGed and shamed.

    On a micro level, I can do it. When I see a RC priest out in public, I always approach and ask for a blessing. No one can stop me. I am going to keep doing it. When I see a dad grocery shopping with his kids acting out and his wife on the cell phone screaming so loud at him the whole store can hear, I stop and encourage him. I don’t ask if he is Christian or what faith tradition he is. Again. no one can stop me. He is a brother along the most important dimension that matters right now.

    But a top down approach or official pact? Aint happening.

  47. white says:

    @TheTraveller
    ‘But no political victory is ever permanent. Especially if it’s anti-God and anti-nature.”
    “Chase chase nature out with a broom, and she’ll climb in through the back window.” –Old saying.”

    I don’t know man, chivalry lasted many centuries and no significant force stood against it, not even the religious. Chivalry entered the mindset of non-Western countries in the 19th/20th century and was immediately welcomed with open arms from both men and women. No signs of slowing down.

    Even Communism cracked after say, 2 waves (if we look at China, the initial revolutionists were 1st wave, 2nd wave were the Cultural Revolutionists of the next generation to revolt against said 1st wave). And that’s it, people had enough. Feminism is on it’s 4th wave now with no signs of slowing.

    Some men grumbling on the internet is no indication of feminism being opposed. Much less chivalry.

  48. Otto says:

    “Let us all marry you! We will provide our own food and clothing. Only let us take your name so we won’t be mocked as old maids.” Isa 4:1 NLT

    Not sure if this day is what he Biblical prophecy is pointing to, but it’s clear that even feminist “hear me roar” women like Theron don’t want the old-maid label.

  49. Rudolph says:

    theDeti hits the salient point up thread and Warren Farrell made the point back in the nineties in “The Myth of Male Power.” Feminism “freed” women from their traditional role as homemakers. It did not free men from their traditional role as provider and protector. The Fatherly article ignores that women despise weakness and except under very prescribed circumstances with very prescribed emotions expression of emotion by men is perceived as weakness.

    Some sort of “positive masculinity” or “new masculinity” or “post-modern masculinity” is not going to change that women find weakness despicable and that therefore men do not get to be weak. “Toxic masculinity” is simply the basis of “not weak.” “Toxic Masculinity” alone is inadequate in teaching men how to be strong.

  50. purge187 says:

    “It is sad that she is so insane. She was extremely pretty in her day.”

    Same thing with Asia Argento and Rose McGowan. Hollywood Feminism takes no prisoners.

  51. Damn Crackers says:

    Didn’t Charlize witness her mother kill her father back in South Africa?

  52. Novaseeker says:

    Some men grumbling on the internet is no indication of feminism being opposed. Much less chivalry.

    Absolutely correct. Feminism is very popular — it’s actually more popular with men than with women. How is that? By far, by far and away, the biggest and most vocal supporters of feminism on the ground level are fathers of daughters. In the millions they very, very, very strongly support feminism, de facto, even if they would not use the label. Try to dismantle any of feminism, and you will have millions, if not hundreds of millions, of extremely angry fathers to deal with.

    The Fatherly article ignores that women despise weakness and except under very prescribed circumstances with very prescribed emotions expression of emotion by men is perceived as weakness.

    Yes and no. Women despise it in men they want to partner with, have sex with with, or marry. In other men, the ones who are not on the sex/relationship radar and never will be — those men she prefers to be weaker, more sensitive and more “woke” because it makes her life easier (less harassment, more support for her goals, etc.). Women differentiate between men in this respect. The men who are not on the radar sexually/emotionally are the ones that need to be woke and not toxic, whereas the ones who are on that radar are supposed to be attractive, and that is more important (and it may involve aspects of toxic). This is not contradictory to women, because hypergamy is built-in to the psychology, and hypergamy inherently categorizes men into two broad categories, so it “makes sense” to a woman to expect men in each category to behave differently, and to hold them to different standards (e.g., the differential way that harassment rules are applied against the men in each category).

  53. vfm7916 says:

    @Jed

    Damn right. Surrender is for cuckservatives.

    @ikr

    https://www.traditionalright.com/victoria/ for the free chapters.

    For the amazon page.

  54. feeriker says:

    Didn’t Charlize witness her mother kill her father back in South Africa?

    Yes, and despite her public claims of “repressing” her memories of the incident, she comes across as more than eager to tslk about it.

    Theron has SERIOUS “Daddy Issues” that she cannot hide and that have labeled her with a giant HAZMAT sign.

  55. Gaza says:

    @Novaseeker

    You raise an important distinction. Women view men as potential mates or potential threats.

    If a man does not arouse a sexual interest in her, he is invisible as such and falls into the threat category.

    But where once the invisible men may have been just ignored unless some physical threat demanded otherwise, they now must be dealt with because their very existence presents potential competition and impediments to her social standing within the new, muddled, egalitarian hierarchy.

    Since we have insisted that in order for women to realize their full potential they must become like men and compete within the male hierarchy, the female bifurcation of men is projected further into the social order.

    No more do women merely select men based on outcomes of male competition and hierarchy. Now they seek out top the men while also working to keep non-sexual men beneath them.

    This means non-sexual men (the majority) are viewed as a threat, direct competition in her pursuit of status.

    The beta masses may be invisible when it comes to mating but they remain to be a threat to both her ability to sort/solve for top males (the faux alpha threat) and accrue her own status (the zero sum ‘seats in law/med school’).

    The femcentric egalitarian culture accommodates this by: (a) manipulating the natural male drive to protect and provide for women; (b) manipulating the natural male instinct toward honor; and (c) manipulating the natural male aversion to competing with women.

    The result is extensive systemic and self-handicapping of men, particularly those without sufficient sexual status to be exempted from the ‘rules’.

    We see this as women and the white knights agitate for special protections and status for women, while creating the labyrinth of rules of engagement for beta men that amps up the competitive landscape, creates zero-sum trap doors, and sets up a multitude of demoralizing and humiliating paradoxical situations based entirely on transitory female preference. Aka clown world.

    When beta men “complain”, the mechanisms justify themselves by hiding behind the Apex fallacy to justify further turns of the dial. All those male CEOs, wage gap, rape culture, and other mythologies. So moar rules, and shut up or man up and pay your taxes or marry that slut.

    Add in hypergamy and the self-defeating and entropy-inducing nature is evident. But the female feelz rules, so most will burn in before ever touching the ripcord.

  56. Charles B says:

    @info:reddit as a whole is super-converged. No surprise.

  57. Frank K says:

    This is not contradictory to women, because hypergamy is built-in to the psychology, and hypergamy inherently categorizes men into two broad categories, so it “makes sense” to a woman to expect men in each category to behave differently, and to hold them to different standards

    So true, though it doesn’t occur to women that the traits they want in a husband/sperm donor are considered negative at the office if there are women around, though hypergamy might color their views: think the SNL skit with Tom Brady

  58. Novaseeker says:

    So true, though it doesn’t occur to women that the traits they want in a husband/sperm donor are considered negative at the office if there are women around, though hypergamy might color their views: think the SNL skit with Tom Brady

    Exactly right. But to a woman, the skit wasn’t funny. To most women, it’s obvious that Brady should be treated differently than cubicle guy and that different rules should apply to the different kinds of men. The joke was not liked by women, I remember that, because the basis of the joke (disparate treatment) makes perfect sense to women, and is not contradictory at all.

    To women, there are basically two sub-sexes of the male sex, and the two sub-sexes are viewed differently in almost every way in her mind, and this makes sense to her because it is built deeply into her psychology.

  59. Anon says:

    To most women, it’s obvious that Brady should be treated differently than cubicle guy and that different rules should apply to the different kinds of men. The joke was not liked by women, I remember that, because the basis of the joke (disparate treatment) makes perfect sense to women, and is not contradictory at all.

    Which is why too much freedom for women is incompatible with an advanced society.

    Every single male trait that makes society better is precisely what women oppose. They type of men that disrupt society is what women like. What women find even more maddening is that money is appearing in the hands of men they don’t approve of.

    Too much freedom/power for women, and a free, advanced, and prosperous society are mutually exclusive.

  60. Frank K says:

    What women find even more maddening is that money is appearing in the hands of men they don’t approve of.

    I once saw a minor actor who played in Star Trek Enterprise at the local comic con, a young man named Anthony Montgomery. He publicly admitted to the audience that before he landed his gig as Ensign Travis Mayweather that he got friend zoned all the time. Then, once he had a real gig on the show (and made good money) he was able to wife up a woman (he credited that to him being older). Unfortunately for him, the show was cancelled and he doesn’t have a real gig anymore. I read that he’s now divorced. Funny how that works.

    It must kill women that most prospects who earn more than six figures are unmasculine geeks, while most Chad McBadboys are deadbeats. Oh well, I guess they, as Dalrock so aptly puts it, can marry the geeks once they tire of having sex with Chad (which really Chad is tired of them).

  61. imnobody00 says:

    @Novaseeker

    Right. The problem is that woman’s natural hypergamy focus on a minority of men. The “useful men” that have to be woke, sensitive, feminists and so on (that is, women with penises)… these men are, in reality, the future marriage prospects of women, because not every woman can have an alpha.

    They are not attractive to women but the advice they receive from women makes them even less attractive. Then women complain about not finding men to marry.

    I am glad I am not in the SM anymore.

  62. Anonymous Reader says:

    Novaseeker
    To women, there are basically two sub-sexes of the male sex, and the two sub-sexes are viewed differently in almost every way in her mind, and this makes sense to her because it is built deeply into her psychology.

    This isn’t anything new – it’s basic hypergamy – but it used to be much more covert. Open hypergamy is bringing out into the open some aspects of women that the neo-Victorians really don’t want to talk about.

    What’s interesting is that the same man can be in one category or the other, depending on a lot of variables, including the man’s own mindset.

  63. CSI says:

    “The “useful men” that have to be woke, sensitive, feminists and so on (that is, women with penises)…”

    If you read enough women’s forum, you’ll see that what they require of these dutiful beta husbands they have convinced themselves they want is actually very high. The general expectation they have of what husbands should deliver is much greater than the past. He should be hard working, ambitious and bring home a decent wage, as traditional. But in addition, he should also do a large proportion of the housework and childcare, competently (to her satisfaction), enthusiastically and without being asked or told what to do. This is even true if he works full time and she works part time or not at all.

    He can’t express frustration over anything (that’s “sulking”) or especially anger (that’s “abusive”). He has to constantly woo her, intuitively and without being asked, with touch and other small acts of affection. He should know when she wants sex and ask in exactly the right way (she’s not going to initiate it). He can’t express any disappointment if she rejects him. Yet if she wants sex he has to be able to satisfy her, every time.

  64. Lost Patrol says:

    When women demanded to enter all male spaces, up to and including combat roles in all branches of the military, conservative Christians concocted a fantasy world where no such rebellion existed.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/04/17/number-female-generals-admirals-has-doubled-2000-report-finds.html

    Still not enough though.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/04/17/next-cno-wants-see-more-women-getting-promoted-captain-admiral.html

    “The issue is making service in the Navy compatible with some of their other desires as they want to move on in their careers.”

    I thought the issue was – if you could fight. I feel pretty foolish now with all my antiquated notions.

  65. info says:

    @Anon
    ”Every single male trait that makes society better is precisely what women oppose. They type of men that disrupt society is what women like.”

    I think the same masculine energy that can disrupt society is the same that can make society dynamic.

    Simple stability and stagnation isn’t good either.

  66. feeriker says:

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/04/17/number-female-generals-admirals-has-doubled-2000-report-finds.html

    Still not enough though.

    Definitely MORE than enough to destroy readiness and morale, which is of course the whole point.

  67. feeriker says:

    It must kill women that most prospects who earn more than six figures are unmasculine geeks, while most Chad McBadboys are deadbeats. Oh well, I guess they, as Dalrock so aptly puts it, can marry the geeks once they tire of having sex with Chad (which really Chad is tired of them).

    Imagine the unmasculine geek who perfects the affordable, programmable, lifelike female sexbot, earning hundreds of billions and thus no longer needing the companionship of the washed up, bitchy, ueber-hypergamous ex-carousel riders who would be pursuing him out of post-wall desperation and greed.

  68. Frank K says:

    I thought the issue was – if you could fight. I feel pretty foolish now with all my antiquated notions.

    I’m sure the Russian and Chinese militaries still adhere to those antiquated notions. If we ever end up in a real war we are gonna be so boned, and I seem to recall leftist think tanks in 2016 saying that we could easily defeat Russia in a war.

  69. Spike says:

    feeriker says:
    April 18, 2019 at 11:26 pm
    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/04/17/number-female-generals-admirals-has-doubled-2000-report-finds.html

    Still not enough though.

    Definitely MORE than enough to destroy readiness and morale, which is of course the whole point.

    Feeriker:
    How is this even possible? In the past, officers had to prove themselves in war before they were promoted. Patton, Rommel, Schwarzkopf, went through actual training and actual war How can women rise to the rank of general in the Air Force when they only pilot planes in superhero movies? How can a woman be a high ranking officer in the Marines when she hasn’t passed the training – which we know because no woman yet has?

  70. Scott says:

    Spike-

    For military officers, promotion is theoretically a function of:

    1. Time
    2. Merit
    3. Education milestones
    4. Endstrength

    1. Time. Each grade has a time in serice/time in grade requirement. You must in the military for x number of years and you must be in the present grade for x number of years before your “first look.” That is, the first (of three) times they will consider you for promotion to the next grade. If you make the list, you then are given a sequence number and you must wait over the period of the next fiscal year to pin on that rank. During the interim (while you have been selected, but your number has not come up) you are “promotable.” If you make the grade on the first look, this actually places you a year ahead of your peers and you are now a “fast tracker.” The next time they look at you (for the next grade) you will be competing against people who were orignally comissioned the year before you. The vast majority are promoted on the second look, and this is basically considered being “on time.” If you don’t make it on the third look, you are now in the pipeline for release. This is the “up or out” policy.

    2. Merit. In the mixture of what the military (especially what your branch of service and area of concentration are looking for that particular year) is a combination of Officer Evaluation Report information, (what your bosses say about you) Officer Record Brief (what assignments you have had) Deployments, Awards you have received. When your packet goes to the board, that board is told what things are show stoppers (you have to have). But nobody knows that those instructions are so you better just do it all.

    3. Education Milestones. These are the military courses you must take in order to pin the rank. Basic Officer Leadership — 1st and 2nd Lieutenant, Captain. Captains Carerr Course–Major. Intermediate Level Education — Lieutenant Colonel. Command and General Staff College — Colonel, and so on. You can get promoted without them, but in competitive year they can apply the regs harshly and not promote.

    4. Endstrength. In the final analysis, if your particular area of concentration needs 200 majors and there are 400 captains going to the board, 200 of you will not make the grade, no matter how awesome you are. This is the curve and it is brutal. THere is a pyrmaid of officers (obviously) and you are climbing it until you wash out (up or out), resign your commission or retire.

    After Colonel, (General officer) the process becomes political. People who are considered for general/admiral have for the most part been fast tracking their whole career. They are animals with an appetite for the bullshit. Not a values judgment. I’ve met a few and most are very nice, very even handed, rational leaders.

    This is the basic system. Each service has a different way of applying it, and the terminology is different between them, but that’s how it works. In theory, during war time, yes–your guy who actually deployed is going to do better in that system. It definitely helped for me. The year after I deployed, I went to the board and was promoted to major above officers I thought were better than me. The difference was I had deployed and they had not. I made the lieutenant colonel list, and refused it (retired rather than stay in long enough to pin it on). My blood pressure and anxiety level are basically stable and calm 24-7 now. I am whole again.

    Hope that helps.

  71. Scott says:

    ** I should add that “merit” also includes appearance (height/weight/correct wear of the uniform—there is a photo of you in the ORB) and whether or not you passed your most recent PT test.

  72. Scott says:

    One final note. Discussing blood pressure and anxiety like that is an example of me demonstrating “low status” behavior and I don’t care.

    I still succeeded in that environment. I was just done.

    I no longer stress out over deploying and supporting stupid endless wars that I don’t believe in.

  73. 7817 says:

    Naw man, this is a high value statement:

    My blood pressure and anxiety level are basically stable and calm 24-7 now. I am whole again.

    You took control and did what was necessary to make things better for yourself. High Value, no whining there. In fact you considered yourself so high value you walked away from the Army on your terms in order to get what you wanted. That’s the frame I’m seeing.

  74. thedeti says:

    CSI:

    In addition to all the expectations you listed that women have now for dutiful beta husbands, he must also be “in touch with his feelings” and must be “emotionally available”. He must talk about his feelings and be willing to be her emotional tampon while she talks about (vomits) hers.

    He’s required to be provider, manservant, and handyman, but also therapist, responsible for her feelings. Moreover he is never, ever to have any needs of his own, nor to have sex with her.

    Wives now expect husbands to be perfect gay boyfriends.

  75. Anonymous Reader says:

    Deti
    Wives now expect husbands to be perfect gay boyfriends

    It’s what they are told to want. It isn’t what they really need.

  76. thedeti says:

    Women view men as potential mates or potential threats.

    Not really. I don’t think most women view most men they’re not attracted to as potential threats, not in 21st century America which is very safe. I would put it as

    Women view men as potential sex partners or as potential utilities.

    And this is just a variation on themes the manosphere has developed endlessly over they years. A few men are potential sex partners, and are treated accordingly. The remainder of men, the vast majority of men, are tools for her. Fungible, interchangeable goods. For the average woman, most men are implements she might be able to use in some way.

    The problem is that she probably won’t get to marry a potential sex partner. She can have lots of sex with potential sex partners, but probably won’t get to keep one long term. So she has to find a useful idiot (er) implement to marry (very easy) and hamsterize herself into believing he’s a potential sex partner she’s sexually attracted to (very difficult). But women, being the excellent liars they are, can easily put over some ersatz sexual attraction upon the vast majority of thirsty betas, who are so incredibly parched you could use them as campfire tinder.

  77. thedeti says:

    Eh. Forgot to close an italics command.

    Let’s try again.
    _______________________________

    Women view men as potential mates or potential threats

    Not really. I don’t think most women view most men they’re not attracted to as potential threats, not in 21st century America which is very safe. I would put it as

    Women view men as potential sex partners or as potential utilities.

    And this is just a variation on themes the manosphere has developed endlessly over they years. A few men are potential sex partners, and are treated accordingly. The remainder of men, the vast majority of men, are tools for her. Fungible, interchangeable goods. For the average woman, most men are implements she might be able to use in some way.

    The problem is that she probably won’t get to marry a potential sex partner. She can have lots of sex with potential sex partners, but probably won’t get to keep one long term. So she has to find a useful idiot (er) implement to marry (very easy) and hamsterize herself into believing he’s a potential sex partner she’s sexually attracted to (very difficult). But women, being the excellent liars they are, can easily put over some ersatz sexual attraction upon the vast majority of thirsty betas, who are so incredibly parched you could use them as campfire tinder.

  78. OKRickety says:

    thedeti said: “Eh. Forgot to close an italics command.”

    Easy to do and exactly the reason I recommend using htmledit.squarefree.com to interactively see the formatting of my comment before I copy and paste it here.

  79. Lost Patrol says:

    One final note. Discussing blood pressure and anxiety like that is an example of me demonstrating “low status” behavior and I don’t care.

    This is a real thing and I don’t see where it indicates a man’s low status behavior. Blood pressure meds are de rigueur for nearly all middle aged men that came up through the machine from their youth.

    I was able to ditch mine within a year of leaving and am still clean. I know of several others.

  80. Scott says:

    LP-

    That’s amazing. The funny thing, the BP comment was not hyperbole. The last three times I have been in the doctor, it was off the charts low, and like you, I stopped taking anything for it months ago. The army was literally killig me slowly.

  81. Frank K says:

    How can women rise to the rank of general in the Air Force when they only pilot planes in superhero movies? How can a woman be a high ranking officer in the Marines when she hasn’t passed the training – which we know because no woman yet has?

    Our enemies have to be licking their chops over the growing incompetence of our armed forces. It’s one thing to fight a war against a much smaller enemy composed of inbred Arabic cronies who are even more incompetent than we are, and quite another to engage Russian or Chinese forces. For now we still have the upper hand in numbers and in technology, though our enemies are closing that gap.

  82. Frank K says:

    I no longer stress out over deploying and supporting stupid endless wars that I don’t believe in.

    It’s bad enough putting your life on the line for a war you believe in, but to do so for a war where one is basically a mercenary, where you enlisted only because there were no prospects back at home better than menial employment has to take its toll. I have heard of serving as being the new blue collar job.

  83. gonzalo marco says:

    how come author cannot differentiate between her asking for date and husband

  84. Ray6777 says:

    Surprisingly enough there’s another never married 44 year old actress/comedienne named Chelsea Handler who went on the View to tell the world she’s finally ready to get married. She dedicated her new book to her future husband so get in line guys. Rollo discussed it in on Pat Campbell’s show.

    https://www.1170kfaq.com/pat-campbell-podcasts

  85. American says:

    @Ray, Handler is post-wall but wants to live off a rich man’s money and marriage is the fastest way for her to do that. She lives in Bel Air where the median value of these men’s homes is $3,371,600. Her problem is that she’s way past the expiration date for such uber-wealthy men. No, she’s stuck with the bar scene, the pickups, and the cats.

  86. PokeSalad says:

    How can a woman be a high ranking officer in the Marines when she hasn’t passed the training – which we know because no woman yet has?

    I laugh when tradcons trot out the “well, at least we still have the US military” line. DOD is the MOST pozzed part of the government, not the least. Its pathetic.

    Very happy to be retired and away from that forever. If I were still in, I’d last about a week.

  87. feeriker says:

    I laugh when tradcons trot out the “well, at least we still have the US military” line. DOD is the MOST pozzed part of the government, not the least. Its pathetic.

    It NEVER ceases to amaze (or amuse) me how the tradcucks, who (correctly) assert that government can’t do ANYTHING else right are, for some bizarre reason, thoroughly convinced that it can never fail at national defense. And God forbid that one of us who has survived being on the inside for a career should attempt to shatter their delusions with a truth pill. Out come the tar, feathers, and rope. “Lynch the traitorous heretic!”

    Very happy to be retired and away from that forever. If I were still in, I’d last about a week.

    I’m now on an actual mission campaign to talk young men out of enlisting who are planning to do so. I also urge any self-respecting man still bearing the cross of active duty to put it down and run away from it as soon as possible. The U.S. military is no longer an institution worthy of any man’s service.

    On the wall of my home office hangs a framed certificate of retirement from active duty, signed by President Bill Clinton, that I was given at my retirement ceremony 20 years ago. I thought at the time, looking at that signature, that we had reached our nadir. How little did I know…

  88. Scott says:

    Feetiker

    Mine’s signed by president Trump

    And yes, when I try to talk to tradcons about little regard I have for my “service” they have an obvious disgust internal reaction.

    Poetically my last day on active duty was September 11, 2018. A fitting end to coming of age as a soldier and officer during a war (on “terror”) that I think was colossal waste of everyone’s time.

  89. American says:

    I’m a veteran and I’d never join the U.S. military if I were a young man today. There’s no glory in being ordered around by feminists. Threre’s no equity with feminists squatting in-the-rear-with-the-gear sending men out to fight their wars. There’s no integrity in a system which suppresses males while simultaneously fast-tracking females over males to meet politically motivated officer and NCO “diversity” goals.

    Honestly, I’d just go merc like my friend did. He’s in Columbia right now making six figures a year. When he was in the Iraq War, he didn’t even have to pay income taxes on the money he earned there. What’s an E-3 in the U.S. make today? And he works for and with men, real men. Not something with bouncing titties ordering everyone about “or else.” Screw that. It would never happen. I’d rather join the Legion than join the U.S. military today as a straight white male.

  90. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Gaza, women don’t only compete with Beta Males (in the workforce). Women compete with other women. Women often even hate each other.

    Women even have a word, that not male could have come up with: frenemy. An enemy who pretends to be a friend.

    The word was popularized by actress Gwyneth Paltrow, referring to Winona Ryder: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1171825/Gwyneth-Paltrow-My-worst-frenemy–Could-talking-Winona-Ryder.html

    Once, they were friends. But when Paltrow was at Ryder’s house, Paltrow supposedly saw the script for Shakespeare in Love on a coffee table, learned of the project, and stole it from Ryder. Paltrow won an Oscar for a role that might have gone to Ryder.

    Men often fight, even physically, then forget about it the next day. But with women, a piece of malicious gossip can lead to a lifetime feud.

    The manosphere should probably do more analysis of female-female dynamlcs, as it’s done with male-female dynamics

  91. c_arnold says:

    From what I understand Charlize Theron’s mother divorced her father by means of a smoking gun barrel. I’ve not been introduced to any stories in the past or since that suggested the children raised in such environments didn’t endure some seriously psychological damage.

    Theron, and most of the entertainment industries most prominent and popular pretty faces are messed up between the ears and behind the eyes. I hope when her little third world virtue signal finally does blow up at her, it’s quick, precise, and doesn’t provoke any blowback for others not actively associated with her insanity.

  92. Nick Mgtow says:

    thedeti says:

    Women view men as potential mates or potential threats.

    Not really. I don’t think most women view most men they’re not attracted to as potential threats, not in 21st century America which is very safe. I would put it as

    Women view men as potential sex partners or as potential utilities.

  93. Nick Mgtow says:

    Dalrock, Charlize Theron is like an sti, the gift that keeps on giving… I wish I didn’t have more content about her anymore. I wish.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6938233/Charlize-Theron-child-thought-boy-girl.html?fbclid=IwAR1V2_AREmvIWUebUcXZp_Ubu6b4XSBnxvfVtcTRul09aXg-ySlhs0gwe0o

  94. DeusExMachina says:

    We have lost nothing, what is happening is just a necessary evil that lead to the next industrial revolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sffdf9m2Ew&t=199s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opDlMeqRACI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Aq2GEig4R8&t=182s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtI-un0cxjU.

    Women will end up with the status of a post wall ghost like charlize even at 20 years old in the future that is coming.

  95. American says:

    @Nick, all I can say after reading the article is that Theron is crazier than an outhouse rat.

  96. Anonymous Reader says:

    American, perhaps you missed this up the comment thread:

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Charlize_Theron

    Especially this part under “Personal Life”

    On 21 June 1991, Theron’s father, an alcoholic,[13] physically attacked her mother and threatened both her mother and her while drunk; Theron’s mother then shot and killed him. The shooting was legally adjudged to have been self-defence and her mother faced no charges.[14][15]</blockquote

    She might just have some “daddy issues”…

  97. Nick Mgtow says:

    American says:

    @Nick, all I can say after reading the article is that Theron is crazier than an outhouse rat.

    In a sane country, child welfare, police, politicians would say and do something.

  98. c matt says:

    What is winning?

    Apparently, creating a desert and calling it victory.

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