The symbolism of the line of men grilling in the Gillette ad.

Barbara Kay at The Post Millennial puts her finger on what is so disturbing about the central image of the Gillette ad.  The line of worthless men manning their grills symbolizes hard working married fathers. From “Toxic masculinity” in advertising: keeping women scared and men shamed:

For what does a neatly-dressed man standing behind a barbecue signify? Think of every Father’s Day ad you have ever seen. How many of them feature barbecue tools? Maybe 50%? Why? Because when men barbecue, they are usually in a back yard. If men have a back yard, it means they live in a house. If they have a house, they are generally married with children. When men barbecue, they are usually feeding their families and friends and having fun doing it. In other words, barbecue men are deeply invested in family life.

They are, in short, fathers. And what is the easiest way to produce boys who do not understand or respect the boundaries between positive and negative masculinity? Take away their fathers.

The barbecue men are the reason most boys with loving fathers grow up to be strong, productive men: men who will never be a threat to anyone—except to bad guys who never learned the boundaries for—or how to positively channel—aggression, because so many of them had no fathers to teach them.

Kay says that after realizing this she finally understood why the ad prompted such a visceral reaction for her.  I think she is dead on here.  Gillette’s ad isn’t just garden variety misandry, it is an attack aimed primarily at respectable men.  I understood that at some level, which you can see from the title of my original post on the ad, but I didn’t put my finger on the meaning of the men grilling.  It is the masculine equivalent of women baking apple pies.

It is interesting to see that while Christian culture has been going after married fathers for years both via sermons and films with no complaint, when Gillette crossed that same line secular culture was outraged.  I also think it wasn’t a coincidence that the central theme of the movie Courageous was expressed by the Christian men complaining about their fathers while sitting in Adam’s backyard, eating the steaks he had just grilled for them.  The symbolism of the barbecue is important enough in Courageous that the scene appears prominently twice in the movie’s trailer.  The first time is immediately after the words “Fathers Struggling to Connect”, and the second time is when Adam hands the other men his resolution and announces “I don’t want to be a good enough father.”

 

 

Related:  How the Kendricks, Rainey, and Lepine see the married fathers they go to church with.

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79 Responses to The symbolism of the line of men grilling in the Gillette ad.

  1. purge187 says:

    “The line of worthless men manning their grills symbolizes hard working married fathers.”

    And most, if not all, of them were, of course, White.

    Here’s to hoping that Gillette goes the same way as BuzzFeed and the Huffington Compost.

  2. The ad itself also represents a conscious decision by the company management and leadership to ignore all of the immense good and positive things that men do, strive for and provide every day, most of it to all of it without any fanfare whatsoever, and without a chorus of other men on talkshows constantly patting each other on the back, congratulating and telling each other how “amazing” they are.
    Men just get on with it.
    And since most of us men have our heads to the grindstone at school, in the military, at work, et c, this makes us a very easy target for public criticism.
    Especially from women, whom most of us instinctively and from our upbringing are taught to listen to, care about, take seriously and show deference toward.
    To certain types of men, this ad was very, very effective in that sense. Instilling a sense of “this must change”, “we need to do better”.

    The irony though is that there is never ever a female equivalent of this kind of response and self-reflection.
    This is because women are conditioned to understand that they arrive on any scene perfect just as they are. And any flaws or poor decisions or transgressions attributed to them is not from their nature or their choices, but from external factors and/or oppression beyond their control.
    They are not accountable. It is men, then, who must change.

    It is fascinating actually given the extent to which women will intentionally ignore all that men do and are capable of doing. This is often most notable when what the guys do doesn’t benefit the Sisterhood one iota. They do it for themselves:

  3. And because of such things, assertions like those made by the APA, about “traditional masculinity being toxic” are proven to be all the more extraordinary, ridiculous and out of place with the actual human experience.
    But okay – if we must say so because it is really all that matters, then fine – it is also completely extraordinary, ridiculous and out of place with the actual experience of the majority of all women and girls out there.

  4. Jonathan Castle says:

    My high school freshman son’s teacher played this Gillette add in her ‘Language Arts’ class.
    I will follow-up with on why this is not acceptable and take it up with the principal if she persists.

    Unfreaking-believable that I have to defend my son – and all the boys and girls in that class – against this kind of satanic man-bashing in public schools. And yet…here we are.

  5. Dalrock says:

    That parody is hilarious MKT.

  6. Keith Waffle says:

    “If there is anything less compelling but more oppressively penetrating than the conversation of four suburban men discussing how to light and then operate a barbecue, I have yet to hear it.”

    Yes, I know. Two for our archive of classic sentences. Mr Power is upset, as all right-thinking people should be, that some heinous “biological determinism” holds sway in the warm weather custom of cooking outdoors. A cultural phenomenon that, we learn, “sees women as salad-spinners and men as the keepers of the grill, the tenders of the flame, lords and masters of the meat.” “It’s a sausage-fest out there,” says Mr Power. “And it’s getting ugly.” Because there’s nothing uglier than the sight of menfolk indulging, often knowingly, in a clichéd male behaviour – cooking for friends and family, and making sure that everyone is having a good time. None of which impedes our slayer of the patriarchy. He has credentials to display and boilerplate to churn…

  7. Jean says:

    As purge187 notes, most of Gillette’s grilling men are white. It’s both amusing and unsettling to watch commercials these days, given the nearly statistically and sociologically unlikely array of diversity used to portray products as fun and cool and upscale. (Does anyone really think, “Wow, if that lesbian couple and their gaggle of diverse-raced children and their three-legged rescue dog really love their car, I bet I’d like one too!”?) But when it’s something bad, it’s all white, masculine men.

  8. Anonymous Reader says:

    Truly, the Geldette feminist propaganda vid is a gift that keeps on giving.

  9. Hmm says:

    @purge: The article is paywalled.

  10. thedeti says:

    Jonathan Castle: What point is made in Language Arts (probably junior high) by playing this Gillette ad to the students? What point was the teacher trying to illustrate?

  11. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    Molyneux says the scene represents castration with the grills strategically placed close to the groin.

    The grills all have two bright yellow corns on the cob with Freudian implications.

    I count 15 men in the row of barbequers and not a single black face. This is unusual when in a normal commercial if there are three people one has to be black.

  12. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    From the comments:

    This had 1.6 million dislikes now it has 300 thousand less also my dislike was gone as well

    I swear when I started the video it had 1.7M dislikes, and now only 1.3M….

    My comment had close to 3k upvotes, now it has disappeared. How mysterious!

    Thanks for removing my dislike. Here is another one for you.

    My comment had 1k likes and now it is gone.

  13. PokeSalad says:

    So, how long before we know if this actually has any effect on sales?

  14. Opus says:

    I have recently been following the Tata Steel Chess Tournament from The Netherlands. Chess is not really my thing (I find it boring) but I was keen to understand how it is played at the highest level because it is often said or implied that ability at Chess (or Math) is what a composer does – it isn’t. The Tournaments web-site has some nice photos both of the dozen or so competing Grand Masters but also of some young Dutch boys soaking-up the atmosphere and watching their heroes. Of the Grand Masters (all men of course), two or three were Russian, two or three Chinese and two or three Indian and then there is the world’s Number 2 (who was absent, the Italian Caruana) and the World Champion (the Norwegian Magnus Carlson) who was present and won the tournament. I could not help but notice the lack of forced diversity and forced equality – Chess is one place where misandry can not thrive. This, I thought, is what the world looks like – and it is fantastic to look at – when it is not being manipulated.

    So here – and I understand it is realistic – are two more men playing high-calibre chess.

  15. OKRickety says:

    Hippopotamusdrome said: “I count 15 men in the row of barbequers and not a single black face. This is unusual when in a normal commercial if there are three people one has to be black.”

    And a breakdown of couples in ads seems far out of synch with reality. It seems at least 1 out of 5 couples must be same-sex, and at least 1 out of 3 couples must be mixed-race. Maybe there’s even an Addy award if you combine both of those.

  16. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    The original version did portray a misbehaving black rapper:

    #GILLEDIT – The DELETED SCENE Gillette Did NOT Want You to SEE!!

  17. Derek Ramsey says:

    “This, I thought, is what the world looks like – and it is fantastic to look at – when it is not being manipulated.”

    In most (all?) of the physical sports, no women can ever compete with the world’s best men. The only way to change this is by manipulation (or denial). By contrast, chess player Hou Yifan, a woman, peaked at 64th in the world, just short of the psychologically significant “elite” rating threshold, but still among the world’s best and capable of occasionally beating some of those elite players.

    The difference is striking. When women are allowed to be women, occasionally a rare one will achieve something great in a field dominated by men. And when it happens it will be earned and worthy of respect. When the situations are manipulated, the results are meaningless.

  18. I would wait until April when Procter & Gamble Reports their Q1 revenues:
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/276528/mens-shaving-cream-brands-sales-in-the-us/

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/194710/us-sales-growth-of-razor-brands-in-2013/

    Gillette has a dominant brand in this space. So a “nick” in sales will be notable, but probably not devastating to the company.

    That said, shaving razors and shaving cream are fungible items. Gillette is a premium brand priced accordingly because of it. Men do choose Gillette and agree to pay more for their products over alternatives. However, there are many very good and less costly alternatives now in a what is becoming a more crowded space.

    If you ask me, Barbasol and Edge are very good shaving creams, though I just use hair conditioner myself.

    As for razors, to be honest I don’t notice any difference in performance. Gillette has always been woefully overpriced versus alternatives. They price this way because of their brand, and customer goodwill which has accrued over decades. That kind of goodwill is expensive to create and maintain, and very easy to destroy.

  19. Carnivore says:

    “If you ask me, Barbasol and Edge are very good shaving creams, though I just use hair conditioner myself. As for razors, to be honest I don’t notice any difference in performance. Gillette has always been woefully overpriced versus alternatives.”

    Masculine men who are very toxic use a safety razor or a straight razor. LOL.

  20. Procter & Gamble used to be one of the most conservative companies in the nation.
    Which makes this SJW infiltration all the more stark.
    Correction: P&G is on a fiscal calendar. April reports will be for their 2nd Quarter, not 1st quarter:

    https://news.pg.com/press-release/pg-corporate-announcements/pg-announces-fourth-quarter-and-fiscal-year-2018-results

    http://www.pginvestor.com/file/Index?KeyFile=396449789

    Their grooming revenues and profits have not been doing too hot. Lots of aggressive price competition and promotional failures, plus Gillette pricing increases have conspired to deliver subpar results it seems:

    Grooming segment organic sales decreased three percent. Shave Care organic sales decreased mid-single digits due to volume declines following devaluation-driven price increases, volatility in quarter to quarter merchandising events and heightened competitive activity. Appliances organic sales was unchanged.

    It kind of makes this double-down on toxic masculinity messaging seems like crazy as fuck. Why would you think this is a good idea?

    Insert here: “Well, we think it’s so crazy, it just might work!”

  21. @Carnivore,
    I have a beard right now. I usually only shave my neck area.
    I am open to using a straight razor though. Any recommendations?
    Also, where is my jugular vein again? LOL.

  22. Father Knows Best says:

    Slightly OT, but Hans Fiene’s church body has a radio show called Issues, Etc. Last week, they covered the Gillette commercial controversy. Their guest was a woman named Rebecca Curtis. Eventually, she was asked if there would ever be a commercial about Toxic Femininity. She proceeded to say that it would never happen because “women don’t sin.” She listed the “sins of women” as not knowing how beautiful they are, giving too much, and caring too deeply. Her comment was nominated for their soundbite of the week, and in that segment, only one person voted for it. Shows just how cucked many of the church body still are. It’s frustrating. Here’s the link to the segment: http://issuesetc.org/podcast/27500118193.mp3

  23. Nick Mgtow says:

    When fathers are involved in their kids lives, feminists oppose it.

    When fathers ask for shared custody, feminists groups and organisations, feminists elects oppose it.

    It is also shown that kids of single mothers are more prone to crime including sexual crimes, yet, father’s involvement in their kids lives is called toxic masculinity.

    Yet, when those men, raised by reckless mothers become toxic, create chaos, bully fragile kids who are taught by feminists to be weak instead of strong and able to stand up for themselves, feminists call men and boys toxic.

    Each time a man disagrees with a woman or refuses to be used for her sneak eating at restaurant, she calls him gay…

    But it’s masculinity that is seen as toxic and homophobic.

    Most of victims of domestic violence are kids in custody of the mothers and fatherless kids. And kids are most safe in their father’s custody or when he is married to their mothers.

    Yet, feminists oppose strong men of character, let chaos run amock, reward women for being reckless and have kids with no good men, criminals or players, high status feminists like Facebook’s female CEO tell women to have sex with criminal, dope boys and bad boys, but it’s masculinity that feminists call toxic?

  24. Oscar says:

    @ constrainedlocus

    I switched to safety razors about a year ago, mostly because the blades are so cheap. I find they work best with old fashioned shaving soap, a badger bristle brush, and the hottest water you can stand.

    Amazon has a ton of them…

    https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_12?url=search-alias%3Dbeauty&field-keywords=safety+razor&sprefix=safety+razor%2Cbeauty%2C156&crid=398ABSTJG2TXR

    … but if you don’t want to add to Jeff Bezos’ divorce fund, there are many alternatives.

    The longest I’ve ever gone without shaving was 3 weeks, because I’ve been in the Army (either active, or reserve) since I was 17, so I don’t even know if I can grow a decent beard.

  25. Yer says:

    I think the mechanism behind your observation in the last paragraph is worthy of more exploration. We know that the Gillette characterization and Kendrick Brothers characterization of men are both wrong (and both more-or-less the same), but what causes the same men who criticize the former to perpetuate the latter? The same tradcons who dog-piled on the Gillette ad are some of the strongest promoters of the underlying narrative. Why is this?

  26. Ron Tomlinson says:

    >Gillette has a dominant brand in this space. So a “nick” in sales will be notable, but probably not devastating to the company.

    Yes. Yet even if a company’s sales *were* devastated as a result of bowing to the leftist narrative, this won’t necessarily harm the careers of the executives responsible. Being sociopathic they presumably see corporations as mere exploitable and disposable vehicles. Having signalled their fake virtue they may then move on to greener pastures.

  27. Anonymous Reader says:

    Real men don’t need Geldette as long as they have a shovel. Or a hatchet.

    https://www.themarysue.com/man-shaves-shovel-hatchet-scissors/

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  29. BillyS says:

    Look images for tech conferences and such these days. I am noticing twice as many women as men in most, completely contrary to reality. Not as much racial wokeness though, but I would bet that is coming. Reality is not important there it seems.

  30. Carnivore says:

    @ constrainedlocus & Oscar
    Am just the opposite – always have facial hair in one form or another; haven’t been clean shaven for almost 4 decades. However, there’s always spots to shave more or less, depending on what I’m sporting (beard, goatee, etc.)
    I would definitely NOT recommend starting with a straight razor. The safety razor has been around for over 100 years and is a better transition (IMO) from disposable razors. (Invented by King C. Gillette no less; that’s a pretty toxic first name – King.)

    One can get started for around $20, using cream in a can. It’s a little more to get a mug, brush and soap in addition to a basic safety razor handle and blades. These razor blades are way cheaper than the multi-blade refills and shave just as close if not closer because they don’t clog. I do not change blades with every shave – not necessary. Regarding which razor blade brand, most of the web sites below offer sampler packs including several different brands. I’ve been very satisfied with Astra, but won’t be buying them anymore since the company is owned by Gillette, with production in Russia. A couple years ago, I bought a 100 blade pack and that will last me a while. The Feather brand blades from Japan are supposed to be very sharp and also probably not a good choice to start out. (Have never used them myself.)

    https://www.westcoastshaving.com/
    https://www.classicshaving.com/
    https://www.theguysshavingclub.com/

    Now, for my head, I wimp out and use an electric clipper. There are youtube videos of very toxically masculine, ballsy guys who shave their own head with a straight razor.

  31. the redactor says:

    In John 21:9-13, we find Jesus on the shore. Grilling up some fish for the apostles.

  32. Novaseeker says:

    Each time a man disagrees with a woman or refuses to be used for her sneak eating at restaurant, she calls him gay…

    But it’s masculinity that is seen as toxic and homophobic.

    It’s because the narrative is one of “empowered victimhood”. The status of “victim” is based on historical circumstances which can never really be erased, so that the victim status is virtually perpetual, regardless of *current* circumstances. And to overcome the historic victimhood, we must empower the victim class, so that they become currently empowered yet perpetual victims. This is how you can continue to bash men as being oppressors even when they are falling way behind, because the class of oppressorhood is based on historical circumstances which cannot be changed — so men, even if they are flailing and falling behind, are still oppressors, and women, even if they are “kicking ass”, are still victims, more or less in perpetuity (or at least for a very long time). (By the way, this is one of the ways that the MRAs “just don’t get it” — they don’t want equality between men and women, dingbat MRAs, they never did, they want to overturn male power and take it for themselves, and the best way to do that is to portray men as being perpetual oppressors and women as perpetual victims, despite their current empowerment — something which legitimates the empowerment of the victim class at the expense of the oppressor class in perpetuity, again regardless of the actual current circumstances.)

    It’s this kind of thinking that allows, for example, women to call men gay or small penised or what have you when they want to “punch up”, but which holds men to a different standard regardless of the circumstances — because women are, as a class, the victims of men, as a class. So even a female Senator is a “victim” of a male homeless man, and when she criticizes him she is “punching up”, which is seen as a way of allowing the victim class to express its empowerment in the face of the oppressor class.

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  34. Novaseeker says:

    We know that the Gillette characterization and Kendrick Brothers characterization of men are both wrong (and both more-or-less the same), but what causes the same men who criticize the former to perpetuate the latter? The same tradcons who dog-piled on the Gillette ad are some of the strongest promoters of the underlying narrative. Why is this?

    This is because the Kendricks and French and the like see themselves as championing “traditional masculinity” — not traditional Christian headship, but what they understand as traditional Christian masculinity (which as Dalrock has pointed out is actually chivalry). They saw the Gillette ad more or less together with the new APA guidelines (because the timing was very close) as attacks on “traditional masculinity” (and they were, either explicitly, as in the case of the APA, or strongly implicitly as in the case of the ad), which is what they see themselves as championing — so they are hostile to anyone who is saying that traditional masculinity is toxic or that men need to abandon traditional masculinity.

    From a red pill perspective, it’s a difference in nomenclature, because we can see the similarities between the two perspectives given the lens we use. But to people like French and the Kendricks the world doesn’t look that way at all, and they see the APA/Gillette people criticizing what they want to uphold (again in name at least, if not in substance, as we can see).

  35. texinole says:

    Novaseeker wrote

    By the way, this is one of the ways that the MRAs “just don’t get it” — they don’t want equality between men and women, dingbat MRAs, they never did, they want to overturn male power and take it for themselves

    Not sure which MRAs you’ve followed but this is way off base. MRAs are VERY aware of the female supremacy movement underway in the West. In fact, I’d say they are on the front line of that fight. MRAs vary in worldview, diagnosis, and prognosis of men’s issues but they are perhaps the least naive on the subject of women of any group of people on the planet.

  36. Novaseeker says:

    Look images for tech conferences and such these days. I am noticing twice as many women as men in most, completely contrary to reality. Not as much racial wokeness though, but I would bet that is coming. Reality is not important there it seems.

    When you see things like this what you have to remember is that the advertising or TV program, film, etc., is trying to create perceptions in order to drive values — it’s aspirational. By having so many women in those conference ads, the idea is both to (1) make tech execs (and to a lesser extent tech workers) feel guilty that this isn’t the reality and (2) encourage more women to enter tech by showing a version of tech that is female. The idea is that over time this kind of messaging will actually cause people to bring reality into line with the messaging (rather than the reverse).

    Remember that the same was done with same sex relationships on TV in particular — making them disproportionately present so as to make people more comfortable with them by always seeing them. The same is being done with interracial couples, which are far more prominent on TV and in ads than they are, statistically, in real life (realizing that in some parts of the country it has become more common) — it’s aspirational, such that if people get used to seeing it all the time it becomes less of an issue for them personally and they may be more open to entering into one themselves.

    When you look at the ads and the media culture in general (TV, movies etc), you can easily note the differences from between reality and what is portrayed there as a statement about what the cultural elite want the culture to look like in the years ahead. And that’s, unsurprisingly — more female empowerment, more gay prominence, and more racial mixing.

  37. Novaseeker says:

    Not sure which MRAs you’ve followed but this is way off base. MRAs are VERY aware of the female supremacy movement underway in the West.

    The id,ea that many MRAs have that the problem with feminism is the gap between its rhetoric of equality, on the one hand, and its actions seeking female empowerment at men’s expense, on the other can be fixed by focusing on equal rights for men and women alike is the problem. The entire dynamic of the feminist movement cannot be “fixed” by adding men’s rights to it as a corrective, because the entire dynamic is based on historical oppressorhood and historical victimhood — that is the underlying worldview. Feminism does not need to be — actually cannot be — corrected by adding rights for men, feminism needs to be eliminated, period, because the entire project rests of false premises which will, in any case, exclude the possibility of “adding men’s rights” as MRAs seek to do because men are historically the oppressor class and therefore will never be seen as having a justified need of equal rights in an atmosphere where historical oppressorhood is the underlying worldview.

  38. texinole says:

    Again, I’m not aware of any MRA that seeks to correct feminism, or hold feminism in any light other than extremely hostile. Also again, MRAs differ on the “how” and the “why”, but they categorically reject the “men as historical oppressors” narrative.

    I’ve simply never heard anyone in the MRM call for anything approaching “correcting feminism”. MRAs can be accused of being foolishly egalitarian themselves, but you’d be hard pressed to show evidence of one who buys that feminism is anything but a supremacy movement.

  39. Frank K says:

    Look images for tech conferences and such these days. I am noticing twice as many women as men in most, completely contrary to reality.

    Also notice how in just about every movie and TV show, the “good” computer hackers are women, who can break into any computer system with just a few keystrokes,and can datamine a database in no time and find the needed data, while the evil hackers are always men, often Russians.

  40. Paul says:

    Using a electric shaver is cheaper and faster.

  41. Spike says:

    I saw Kay’s article and, like many of us here, thought she summed up the barbeque issue pretty well.
    It isn’t men on the barbeque per se that feminists hate. It’s the role they are given: the role of fatherhood. And nothing upsets a feminist more, nothing arouses her vile hatred, envy and scorn more – than a family unit, with women and children safely and well brought up, with a man who cares about them in charge doing his role of father, provider and protector.
    What women, churches and secular society fail to comprehend is that the father’s role in a child’s life is sociological. It is man-made, or ”artificial”. His biological role as a mammal was completed at conception. Yet it is his role in socializing the child – through his roles as father, protector, provider and earner – that primes the growing child for life in a civilization.
    I say, ”women, churches and secular society”. Anthropologists know the truth about the role of fatherhood. Men’s groups know the role. Statisticians who look at prison populations, rising welfare state costs academic underachievement, gang involvement and teen pregnancy know. Jordan Peterson figured it out by himself having read the Book of Genesis. And yet our government, with its’ lapdog appendages the churchians, feminists, the gay -and-tranny-mafia are doing a full double-down on this.

    It’s not going to end well.

  42. Nick Mgtow says:

    Frank K, you can watch Mentalist or any movie, the men always need to be shown by better women how to hack or code better, it makes me ROFL. No, it pisses me off.

    Ron Tomlinson says:
    January 28, 2019 at 1:27 pm

    >Gillette has a dominant brand in this space. So a “nick” in sales will be notable, but probably not devastating to the company.

    Yes. Yet even if a company’s sales *were* devastated as a result of bowing to the leftist narrative, this won’t necessarily harm the careers of the executives responsible.

    I’d not be that sure, Ron!

    EA treated a lot of its consumer base, hardcore gamers, men, with contempt. Don’t buy the game if you don’t like it they said. Thing is, most men didn’t call that bluff. They got of the table with their chips.

    Quote “After Tons of Negative Feedback, Battlefield 5 Creator Insults Consumers and Tells Them Not To Buy Game!”

    It didn’t work out well for them.

    https://boundingintocomics.com/2018/06/14/after-tons-of-negative-feedback-battlefield-5-creator-insults-consumers-and-tells-them-not-to-buy-game/

    https://segmentnext.com/2018/11/27/battlefield-5-physical-sales/

    https://gamerant.com/electronic-arts-stock-drop-battlefront/

  43. ray says:

    Oh! I see you picked up on my link to Barb Kay. That’s must have HURT. :O)

    ‘Ray’. R-a-y. :O)

  44. Dalrock says:

    Ray are you saying I missed a hat tip?

  45. @Carnivore and @Oscar,
    Thank you for the advice. I’ve shaven the head once before with disposable razor. The no hair feeling is great, especially in summer in my opinion.
    But I prefer the high and tight look.
    I will definitely look to use a safety razor going forward, and try not to meet my Maker by being careless around the jugular.

    Not Dalrock’s intention, I am sure, for this forum to be a place where good masculine grooming tips are shared, but thanks feminism!?

  46. A drawing of 1st century Hebrew men.
    Maybe we should all grow a beard according to Leviticus 19:27?

  47. Nick Mgtow says:

    If you love movies, you might not have loved the male versions, and, if you weren’t into Ghostbusters women or Ocean 8, will you be Feminist, Fast and Furious?

    Written to you with happiness by GQ…

    https://www.gq.com/story/were-finally-probably-getting-an-all-female-fast-and-furious-spinoff

  48. Ron Tomlinson says:

    @Nick

    Sure a backlash from consumers can definitely dent sales but my point is what is the impact on the SJW executives concerned? They may be unaffected. For instance, how is the guy who left EA positioned now? He is the CEO of a new company with heavy-duty financial backing. Perhaps better off than before…

  49. Oscar says:

    @ constrainedlocus

    Maybe we should all grow a beard according to Leviticus 19:27?

    I’ll have to wait until I retire from the Reserves.

  50. MKT says:

    @Dalrock
    “That parody is hilarious MKT.

    I agree. They made another one incorporating the Covington kid with the “punchable” face:

  51. BillyS says:

    Ron,

    The modern gaming industry has huge problems, even without the force in feminism. It is a trainwreck waiting to happen in far too many ways.

  52. American says:

    I courageously don’t watch any movies that propagate “political correctness.” The next movie I’m planning to see is John Wick 3.

  53. American says:

    Read this article talking about the decline of academia, especially “women’s studies”: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272697/bad-ideas-are-born-bad-universities-bruce-thornton

  54. mrteebs says:

    The Covington Kid is not the one with the “punchable” face. The supremely punchable face is Savannah Guthrie’s during the interview of Covington Kid, cluelessly insisting that by “standing his ground” he was being unnecessarily intimidating and provocative and owed Mr. Not-a-Veteran an apology. Not a peep about the real racists and troublemakers present that day, because the color of their skin isn’t white and they are therefore exempt from any criticism, no matter how utterly deserving.

  55. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Anglican leader does not believe in resurrection of Jesus: https://pjmedia.com/faith/the-church-of-englands-vatican-envoy-doesnt-believe-in-the-resurrection-of-jesus/

    Last week, the Anglican Centre in Rome announced the appointment of the Very Rev. Dr. John Shepherd as temporary director of the Anglican outreach to the Roman Catholic pontiff at the Vatican. This caused a major scandal, since Shepherd has denied the historicity of the Gospels and suggested that he does not believe in the bodily Resurrection of Jesus Christ, a cornerstone of Christian and Anglican doctrine.

    “The Resurrection of Jesus ought not to be seen in physical terms, but as a new spiritual reality,” Shepherd said in a video message for Easter in 2008 unearthed by David Ould, senior associate minister at Parramatta Anglican Cathedral near Sydney, Australia. “It is important for Christians to be set free from the idea that the Resurrection was an extraordinary physical event which restored to life Jesus’s earthly body.”

    Shepherd went on to say that “the Gospel accounts are not historical records as we understand them. They are symbolic images of the breaking through of the resurrection spirit into human lives.”

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  57. Paul says:

    The witches are back, using sex as a tool to manipulate men, just as in the ancient fertility cults.

    If you need any more prove how evil feminism is, this SNL “Comedy” writer will show it.

  58. Lost Patrol says:

    @ American

    That’s a good article you linked. Given the author’s academic bona fides, he has real moral courage to publish that material. Will not be met with happiness by much of the faculty where he hangs out.

    Paging Anonymous Reader WRT to that article…

    This ideological prejudice can be seen in the subtle alteration of words to reinforce the idea that human will and power can recreate reality to match our desires. Take the use of the word “gender” to mean what for centuries we called “sex.” The use of “gender” to mean “sex” became common with modern feminism, which downplays natural and biological causes and focuses on social, political, and cultural ones.

  59. Paul says:

    … and she is not being original, as Madonna basically promised the same to all male Clinton voters

    based on the poll results that would account for about 25 MILLION candidates for a blowjob by Madonna. (Given her extensive description of the service offered, that would take her about 5 minutes each for a total of 238 years non-stop activity, by which time she would be at least 296 years old, if she had started right after the elections and allowed herself some time for other things such as sleep.)

  60. MKT says:

    @mrteebs
    “The Covington Kid is not the one with the “punchable” face. The supremely punchable face is Savannah Guthrie’s during the interview of Covington Kid, cluelessly insisting that by “standing his ground””

    And Trevor Noah, who’s also shown in that parody. Imagine a grown conservative man saying he wanted to punch David Hogg in the face. There would be all sorts of faux outrage like “you want to assault and abuse a high school age minor”?

  61. BillyS says:

    The amount of cleavage on dating sites is somewhat amazing, especially because a lot comes from those who claim to be tired of the consequences of that. They show it off and gripe about getting hit up for sex.

    Shocking! /sarc

  62. BillyS says:

    Of course MKT. One standard for progressives and their “conservative” allies. Another for those they oppose.

    As the saying goes, they wouldn’t have any standards if they didn’t have a double one.

  63. ray says:

    American — “I courageously don’t watch any movies that propagate “political correctness.” The next movie I’m planning to see is John Wick 3.”

    Yeah the J. Wick flicks. V little fem/p.c. sub-messaging. Lotsa buttkicking, racing around, guns, and punks getting chumped. Old John he don’t talk much, gets another outing in Hateful 8. Doesn’t get to see the witch’s boots twitch, but they end up twitching anyway.

    I appreciate the concept of the ‘International’ which maintains rules and sanctuaries applying to both fallen and unfallen. Satan ain’t outta heaven yet and neither are his friends. Clever and credible spiritual synecdoche from the Wick writers and director.

  64. ray says:

    Paul — “The witches are back, using sex as a tool to manipulate men, just as in the ancient fertility cults.”

    Yessir. Nothing new under the sun.

  65. American says:

    @Lost Patrol, ack. I found the article on the news aggregator whatfinger.

    @ray, I have no idea what you just said about the John Wick series lolol.

  66. feeriker says:

    …25 MILLION candidates for a blowjob by Madonna

    How arrogant and out of touch is this delusional, has-been hag to think that any self-respecting man, no matter how left-libtard, would want her skank-ho mouth anywhere near his dick?

    She doesn’t realize that she probably COST Hitlery 25 million votes by making her offer

  67. feeriker says:

    In John 21:9-13, we find Jesus on the shore. Grilling up some fish for the apostles.

    To which they feminists will shriek “SEE???! THERE HE WAS, GRILLING FOR A BUNCH OF TROGLODYTE SEXISTS WHO DIDN’T INVITE ANY WOMEN TO THE PARTY! WHY DIDN’T HAVE MARY MAGDALENE MANNING THE GRILL WITH HIM??!!”

  68. Oscar says:

    @ feeriker

    WHY DIDN’T HAVE MARY MAGDALENE MANNING THE GRILL WITH HIM??!!”

    Because, then, a woman would’ve been serving a bunch of men, and we can’t have that, can we?

  69. feeriker says:

    Spike says:

    It’s not going to end well.

    Probably the best generic, pithy statement about the future anyone could come up with.

    Anglican leader does not believe in resurrection of Jesus: https://pjmedia.com/faith/the-church-of-englands-vatican-envoy-doesnt-believe-in-the-resurrection-of-jesus/

    Exactly how is this news? I don’t understand this bizarre idea people still hold that the Anglican “Church” is in any way whatsoever connected to Christianity anymore (assuming that it ever really was in the first place).

  70. Oscar says:

    @ feeriker

    I don’t understand this bizarre idea people still hold that the Anglican “Church” is in any way whatsoever connected to Christianity anymore (assuming that it ever really was in the first place).

    The African Anglican Church is pretty good (as far as I know), and they outnumber European Anglicans 2:1.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/12/anglican-church-england-global-schism-homosexuality-gay-rights

    https://www.gafcon.org/about

    Some time in the future, Africans may be evangelizing Europeans. Again.

  71. ray says:

    Here’s one linked-in from a piece at PJ Media —

    https://mymodernmet.com/dads-dressed-up-with-daughters/

    Shame the dads for patriarchal, abusive grilling. But praise them for making Perfect Princesses out of their daughters — and joining in to show ‘gender support’.

    DODOs are the soul of the gynarchy.

  72. ray says:

    American —

    Thank you. I try to make comments that can be interpreted variously, in case anybody objects. I leaned this at Dalrock’s after reading about that Blog/Mablog guy.

  73. I switched to brush-and-cup in college, because I was tired of paying for a can of aerosol propellant that didn’t last very long. My dad had an old shave-cup and shave-brush (both long gone), so all I needed was soap. Left Mach-3 for safety-razors rather later, but for much the same reason.

  74. Robert What? says:

    For my small part, I took a look and noticed both my razors (with costly replacement cartridges) are Gillette. I won’t be making that mistake again.

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  76. One aspect of grills and fire not mentioned in that article is religion: Both in the Bible and in pagan practices, fire was used in worship of God or gods respectively. It devours it’s food and symbolizes power, devotion and judgement. Men symbolically wield that divine power, including the power of judgement, when they stand at the grill. That makes it so much more “evil” when they all proclaim that “false” sentence: “Boys will be boys.” This statement alone is “wicked” enough: Boys are not to be boys, because masculinity is “toxic”. The consequences of that sentence is even more “appalling”: Boys will behave like boys, and men will let them – and alot divine power to them doing so.

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