Tackling the patriarchy, holding the door open for trannies.

Last week the media was aflutter with the news that the Boston Marathon was formally inviting transvestites to compete.  If you wondered who to thank for this latest example of progress, you can thank chivalry.  As the Boston Herald explains in Boston Marathon pioneer hails trans ruling today’s progress can be tied back to 1967, when the first woman defied race officials:

Kathrine Switzer endured more than snow squalls and low temps during the 1967 Boston Marathon. Steely No. 261 fought to stay on track while fellow runners pushed her, angry that a woman dared to join the male-dominated race.

Five decades later, the first female Boston marathoner celebrates Sunday’s breakthrough decision to accept openly transgender women.

Switzer’s triumph was made possible by multiple acts of chivalry, but the most overt chivalrous act came when race co director Jock Semple tried to remove her official race number:

John Duncan “Jock” Semple (October 26, 1903 – March 10, 1988) was a Scottish-American runner, physical therapist, trainer, and sports official. In 1967, he attained worldwide notoriety as a race official for the Boston Marathon, when he attempted to tear off the number of Kathrine Switzer, who was officially entered despite a ban on female competitors.[1]

Switzer describes the scene in her own account:

A big man, a huge man, with bared teeth was set to pounce, and before I could react he grabbed my shoulder and flung me back, screaming, “Get the hell out of my race and give me those numbers!” Then he swiped down my front, trying to rip off my bib number, just as I leapt backward from him. He missed the numbers, but I was so surprised and frightened that I slightly wet my pants and turned to run. But now the man had the back of my shirt and was swiping at the bib number on my back.

It would have ended there, and Switzer wouldn’t have been able to finish the race as a numbered contestant, were it not for the chivalry of her football playing boyfriend, Big Tom Miller.  At that moment, Big Tom literally tackled the patriarchy:

 I felt unable to flee, like I was rooted there, and indeed I was, because the man, this Jock guy, had me by the shirt. Then a flash of orange flew past and hit Jock with a cross-body block. It was Big Tom, in the orange Syracuse sweatshirt. There was a thud—whoomph!—and Jock was airborne. He landed on the roadside like a pile of wrinkled clothes.

With that one act, Big Tom brought the Boston Marathon’s 70 year history as a race for men to a close.  Now, 51 years later, the race finally officially welcomes trans runners.  None of this would be possible without the chivalry of Big Tom and men like him.

The same is true for the progress that has been made in the church.  Only an unchivalrous man would tell a woman she couldn’t teach, or divorce her husband, or have children out of wedlock, etc.  If you’ve ever spoken out against feminism in the church, you’ve no doubt had an experience similar to Jock Semple, albeit with a metaphorical tackling instead of a literal one.  But what matters is the impulse is the same.  Feminism has relied on the chivalrous impulse every step of the way, even as feminists have expressed contempt for chivalry.

Laughably conservatives have assumed all along that they would appease the feminist impulse by engaging in more and more chivalry.  When women complained about the patriarchy, men chivalrously offered women the vote.  When women responded by complaining louder, more concessions were made.  Women complained that it wasn’t fair that they were excluded from the military, so men chivalrously opened first the military, and then combat, to women.  After all, what kind of a man would say no to a woman?  Can’t they see that she is upset?  This is true even though chivalry says only men should fight.  Modern day chivalrous men square this circle by pretending that other (cowardly) men are somehow forcing women to fight in their place.

We are to this day still stuck in this same pattern, with conservatives still believing that one more chivalrous push will finally win the war against feminism.

Related:  They had a good run.

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54 Responses to Tackling the patriarchy, holding the door open for trannies.

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  2. vfm7916 says:

    It’s interesting to me to see that a time traveller could have a profound effect on the shape of the future if they went back and eliminated a 16th century French author…

  3. Carnivore says:

    “With that one act, Big Tom brought the Boston Marathon’s 70 year history as a race for men to a close.”
    You didn’t provide the rest of the story. She married Tom Miller in 1968 and divorced him 5 years later.

  4. Chad says:

    I sit on a church board. It is amazing how much the push for women to sit on the board exists. I am the current chair, and two male members have expressed their wish that we have a female chair some time soon. (We haven’t yet). For what reason? So they can get a heavy dose of the chivalrous feels, virtue signaling high, I suppose. I’m sure they view me as the reactionary on the board, but I tell them I just want qualified people. It’s taken me a while to get up the courage to say even that. The elders (a separate body) are all male, thank God. I’ve told the entire board I would never attend a church with a female minister. They look at me like I’m an alien.

    Like the tackler in dalrock’s story, they stand ready to clothesline me.

  5. Genx72 says:

    Looks like Big Tom was rewarded for his efforts by Mz.Switzer with marriage in 68 & frivorce in 73.
    Thanks mi lady.

  6. Dota says:

    “The condition of its women is the truest test of a people’s civilization. Her status is her country’s barometer.” – John P Jones, India’s problem – Krishna or Christ. (1903)

    Jones was a missionary operating in British India in the early 1900s. Protestants have a history of being obsequious to women.

  7. stickdude90 says:

    It will be interesting to see what happens when more ciswomen figure out that transwomen are higher up on the victim hierarchy than they are.

  8. Burner Prime says:

    Put another way, this is white-knighting 101, and caving to the decades-long series of sh*t tests given to mankind since the 60’s. As if the screeching and wailing and nagging would finally stop once demand #479 was acceded to. This will never end; the pound-MeToo hysteria is a perfect example of the no-win situation men have allowed themselves to get into. The demands will never end, the restrictions on how men are expected to behave (while women simultaneously are allowed maximum latitude) will never stop reaching absurd heights. Sadly this is perhaps totally natural and serves to precipitate a crisis, purging the weak supplicants over the long run. The absurd demands will end when women lose agency, and this will only happen when the enablers are no longer able to support the absurdity. Of course that means the exit of many millions of men. The exit won’t be a John Galt or MGTOW move to monasteries either. The exit will involve mass genocide.

  9. mgtowhorseman says:

    Who cares, let anyone run.
    The only real question is are their times recoded in the male rankiungs, female rankings or a new other rankings?

    Just wait until the next olympics where a whole team of transgendered men compete as women and reset all the female world records 20% higher.

    And then the following olympics where we hear the commentary of the cis women’s performance
    “Well,Bob that was an amazing performance but no where near the recent record performance, in fact all these women are off the record pace. Amazing how much worse these women atheletes have gotten in only four short years.”

  10. Anonymous Reader says:

    We are to this day still stuck in this same pattern, with conservatives still believing that one more chivalrous push will finally win the war against feminism.

    It is the Average Frustrated Chump (AFC) problem elevatd to the macro scale. Just as a blue-pill betaized doormat husband unceasingly tries to make his wife haaaaapy by “Yes Dear”ing, choreplay, flowers, footrubbing or footwashing, etc. etc. etc., so do these manlyman oh-so-traditional conservatives seek to make women haaapy at the societal level by endlessly catering to their whims in an endless “Oh, M’Lady! Allow Me!” parade of obsequiousness.

    It hasn’t worked at the social level, it fails consistently at the household level. Yet we are told to just repeat the same futility until something changes. Because of good intentions or something.

  11. mgtowhorseman says:

    From here
    https://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/vo2max.htm

    Vo2max is the test of oxygen uptake in a runner’s body, a good indicator of endurance and anabolic effort. Note that in all the average, good and excellent categories across all age ranges the men’s max is about 5% higher than the corresponding women.

    Its not even so much a function of testosterone (flattened in hormone usijng trannies) but of the physically larger lungs in the larger male chest cavity.

  12. mgtowhorseman says:

    And therefore the ability to produce higher uptake of oxygen to more blood being circulated thru the lungs capacity along with higher hemoglobin in masle blood chemistry.

    https://www.runnersworld.com/vo2-max

  13. American says:

    “It is amazing how much the push for women to sit on the board exists.” In some churches, they have trannies now in the pulpit and on the board. Not just Methodists and Episcopalians either. Some Baptist churches are ordaining trannies:

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/baptist-church-ordains-transgender-woman/

    On a more entertaining note, it will be interesting to see how actual females respond to males, pretending to be females, entering their sporting events and winning eventually blocking actual females from the top spots as time goes on and more confused males do this.

  14. Swanny River says:

    If a women grabbed a trannies race number and told her she doesn’t belong, who would tackle the woman?

    Chad,
    Same here, elders at breakfast all clamor for a more visible role for women.

  15. Spike says:

    I’m with mgtowhorseman. Let the Trannies compete. When they destroy all of women’s places in a competition, we can flip feminists the bird.

  16. Anonyous Reader says:

    @chad, @swanny: do any of these men ever give a clear, articulate reason for “more women”, or is it just the generic “diversity” and “perspective” line?

    Putting it another way, do they quote the Bible directly or do they quote Oprah (however indirectly)?

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  18. Anon says:

    Modern day chivalrous men square this circle by pretending that other (cowardly) men are somehow forcing women to fight in their place.

    This is the apex of cuckservative faggotism.

    If they knew anything about women at all, they would know that in a war, when the men of their own side are losing, women have zero hesitation in switching sides. Women will NEVER, EVER fight on a battlefield for ‘their’ country.

    To believe such a thing is mental malpractice of extreme cuckservative dumbshittitude.

  19. Anon says:

    So why aren’t cuckservatives being hit with divorce after divorce? They should be living under bridges or in jail due to the inability to pay CS.

    I would be delighted by the whole thing if visible costs were being swiftly and ruthlessly heaped onto cuckservatives, as this would ascertain cuckservative eradication.

  20. rugby11 says:

    Not that we will ever go back

  21. Jonadab-the-Rechabite says:

    Some Baptist churches are ordaining trannies:

    I have noticed that a majority of ordained ministers are eunuchs, so a snipendectomy or an addadicktome only makes sense. After all what us a man with no balls, a trans-woman. And what are these women preachers who think they are men – transdykes.

    The more the genderblender swirls the greater the absurdity. But hey, at least the absurdity achieves equality.

  22. American says:

    “A federal judge in Washington State has declared that all civic groups nationwide must accept people of the other sex into their single-sex spaces and activities, or else be stigmatized and sued by the federal government.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/16/government-must-sue-to-impose-transgender-claims-nationwide/

    ^ So now it has to be appealed to the radical leftist ninth circuit (who will rubber stamp the lower court’s ruling) and then to SCOTUS who will overturn it, in order to stop the government from bankrupting and imprisoning everyone that refuses to go along with the radical leftard tranny charade.

  23. Dota says:

    I have a question for all the Christians (especially protestants) here. Has it occurred to any of you that organized Christianity has been subverted? If so, has it also occurred to you that many of these conservative leaders whom you criticize are then actively malicious and not merely misguided? Because if that’s the case, then perhaps you need to change your focus to survival instead of wringing your hands in despair as you wonder why these conservative leaders can’t see the light. I don’t know about the rest of you, but even as a non-Christian, the subversion is easily observable. Consider how effective evangelicals are at shilling for Israel and planting their collective face into Jewry’s backside, but how woefully ineffective they are at combatting feminism, gay marriage, and the latest trans freakshows?

  24. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    American: A federal judge in Washington State has declared that all civic groups nationwide …

    A federal district court judge does not have jurisdiction “nationwide.” His ruling can only be enforced within his district. It would only apply “nationwide” if the Supreme Court upholds his ruling.

  25. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Australian woman blows her entire $220,000 inheritance in less than a year, mostly on drugs: http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/17/woman-spent-inheritance-drugs-says-not-7473310/

    The photos of her — especially the Mohawk — are priceless.

    A woman blew every last cent of her father’s inheritance money within just nine months, including $150,000 on drugs.

    Brodie Bond, from Morwel, in Australia, successfully fought for a huge slice of her father’s will, $220,000 to be exact, after he left her nothing when he died.

    But rather than using that money wisely, the 28-year-old blew much of it in less than a year. …

    It doesn’t look like she is too bothered about it either, admitting she spent the remaining $70,000 on alcohol, clothes and a car – which she later crashed.

    Ms Bond says though she and her father were estranged, she was entitled to a large chunk of his estate.

    ‘Even though he hadn’t been in my life, he was still my dad, and the grief I was going through at the time, I should’ve benefited from that,’ she said.

    When she finally received the money in June 2016, Ms Bond says she celebrated with a slab of Jack Daniel’s and vodka shots during a drug-fuelled night with a friend.

    She said: ‘Why not? It’s not everyday you get that much money.’

    http://metro.co.uk/video/embed/1670846

  26. Hose_B says:

    @RedPillLatecomer
    Australian woman blows her entire $220,000 inheritance in less than a year, mostly on drugs:

    This type of douchebaggery doesn’t surprise me coming from a man or a woman. Look at the prodigal son, he deserved his inheritance, and squandered it. This woman just waited till her dad was dead.

  27. Magneto2975 says:

    Good Lord, this stuff is depressing. We don’t have to live in this world that the femminists (male and female) are unstoppablely forming. The first and last thing to do is to get the hell away. Time + distance = safety. We can go live where they won’t: places with hard environments that have winter. They are all in the process of moving to the warmer regions and turning them blue, and blue-pill. Laying on the rules, regulations, and laws that screwed it all up in the first place.

    I’ve rearranged my life to move out of Cuckistan to Free America, where there are no miles upon miles of offices, filled with people (mostly women) who want soft jobs in cubicals, where they can seek to hen-peck, dominate, and control each other (first the men, then the other women).

    Sure – lots of people would consider it the middle of nowhere, where there are no cafes, museums, coffee shops, movie theaters, shopping malls, and other entertainments. And yes, there is windy rain, and blizzards in winter, and even dangerous wildlife, but that is the price of freedom.

    The gynocenterists don’t care what we do out on the prairie, or in the mountain forests. We live in freedom, we enjoy our family, and worship our God, we go to our eventual graves in peace.. They can all go to Hell, which is their destination after they create their own personal version of it here on earth.

    And yes, my wife is coming with me. Any of you are welcome to visit or join us, but bring a jacket, it gets cold in the mountains even in the summer.

  28. Dave says:

    I have a question for all the Christians (especially protestants) here. Has it occurred to any of you that organized Christianity has been subverted? If so, has it also occurred to you that many of these conservative leaders whom you criticize are then actively malicious and not merely misguided? Because if that’s the case, then perhaps you need to change your focus to survival instead of wringing your hands in despair as you wonder why these conservative leaders can’t see the light. I don’t know about the rest of you, but even as a non-Christian, the subversion is easily observable. Consider how effective evangelicals are at shilling for Israel and planting their collective face into Jewry’s backside, but how woefully ineffective they are at combatting feminism, gay marriage, and the latest trans freakshows?

    This is very true. The subversion is so thorough, it is unbelievable.
    Bible translators and publishers, leaders at seminaries, pastors and church leaders, etc, are all wolves in sheep’s clothing, ravaging the sheep and apparently getting away with it. Their ultimate goal is to eradicate true Christianity from the surface of the earth.

    But God, who is wiser than all men, have already anticipated this, and he has his people at strategic places, even as we speak. He will bring them out at the right time.

  29. Hose_B says:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/judge-lectures-assault-victim-to-use-attackers-fake-pronoun

    The term for the feminist who hate trans is apparently TERF
    Maria Maclachlan, 61, is a self-described Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist (TERF), part of a faction that believes men who identify as female should not be recognized as women. The UK Telegraph reports that she was among the speakers for a TERF event in London’s Hyde Park last September. The event was meant to discuss potential changes to the UK’s 2004 Gender Recognition Act.

  30. Paul says:

    Actually, the introduction of female sports competitions were the chivalrous actions that shielded females from direct male competition.

    Let any competition open to any human, and may the best person win. For most sports that will not be women.

  31. Paul says:

    … and the menstrual cycle WILL impact performance:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5348024/
    “a reduction in maximal endurance performance during the mid LP of the menstrual cycle.”

  32. squid_hunt says:

    @stickdude

    It will be interesting to see what happens when more ciswomen figure out that transwomen are higher up on the victim hierarchy than they are.

    I think liberal, white women are counting on the natural reaction of white men to protect them. They don’t expect to be taken seriously. We’ll see how it plays out.

    @mgtowhorseman

    Who cares, let anyone run.

    I care. One of the most successful tactics of feminism is to infiltrate all male organizations. It’s deliberately disruptive.

    If you want to here feminists screech and howl, set up an all-male organization. You don’t even have to be moderately successful. They start yowling as soon as they hear about it. The screaming lets you know you’re on to something.

    If you want to really put the brakes on feminism, start organizing men only meetings. Let men get comfortable being alone together without women interfering. It will change their entire outlook.

  33. Opus says:

    Last night and by happenstance I came across the film of the 1936 Berlin Olympics 4×100 metres women’s final. One of the German Team (who, having broken the world record in the heat, lost, only because in the final change the baton was dropped – the entire team later to be consoled personally by the attending Reichs-Chancellor – but who at that point were eight yards ahead of their nearest rival) and likewise one of the winning American team (who did not drop their baton) were clearly not women – but in those days no one was pretending these competitors who following some sort of mental wish-fulfillment or drug-induced treatment had morphed into being a member of another sex. Clearly sex impersonation is thus not in sport a new thing.

    Some days earlier I had watched the women’s diving form the 1912 Stockholm Olympics and last night I watched a female diving competition from a couple of years ago. It is not just that the costumes now worn would look more appropriate on a porn star but that no matter their skill in turning in the air following a hand-stand start the present female divers do not compare in grace with the technically less adventurous competitors from 1912.

    As women seek to emulate men certain women pull the ground from under their fellow competitors feet: For me: even if she does not win the race, hurdler Michelle Jeneke always wins and then there is that female Greek lap runner Olympia Kazakouropoulis (or whatever) with the cut away bikini bottoms. I never previously realised how into women’s sport I might be.

  34. infowarrior1 says:

    @Dave

    The cancer of chivalry has festered for 800 years:
    https://gynocentrism.com/2013/07/14/the-birth-of-chivalric-love/

    God does seem to be taking his time to deal with this.

  35. BJ says:

    @Dota

    “I have a question for all the Christians (especially protestants) here. Has it occurred to any of you that organized Christianity has been subverted?”

    As a protestant/reformed pastor, the answer to your question is basically, yeah. You say organized Christianity as if it is a monolithic block, which it quite frankly isn’t. So, the real subversion is happening on a wide scale, but not every organization is being subverted. Many are, certainly, but there are still many faithful bible-believing churches. Plus, Protestant Christianity is very much decentralized, so you can’t speak in such sweeping terms.

    “If so, has it also occurred to you that many of these conservative leaders whom you criticize are then actively malicious and not merely misguided?”

    Back to the monolithic thinking. Some are, yes, many are not. Many are faithful to the bible. Many are weak, but goodhearted. Some are outright malicious.

    “Because if that’s the case, then perhaps you need to change your focus to survival instead of wringing your hands in despair as you wonder why these conservative leaders can’t see the light.”

    No hand-wringing on my part. I simply keep my head down and work hard to grow my small community. I would want to know what you mean by survival, but in my mind that looks like doing what you can to influence those around you. Red-pilled men work hard to fight for their families, their churches, and their countries.

    I despise the attitude among some men today that because feminism has taken such hold that we should get bitter and run and hide. That is not a masculine response. Men organize around common ideas and build stuff. To run and cry because there is a fight is pretty weak, in my mind.

  36. earl says:

    ‘I’ve rearranged my life to move out of Cuckistan to Free America, ‘

    I’ve lived in both…much better to be out of Cuckistan even though it has the stuff.

    Live in free America where the cost of living is relatively low and the Big Reds are fewer and far between…vacation in Cuckistan to see the sights before they are destroyed or dont go there if you please.

  37. American says:

    @Red Pill Latecomer: I know. I said that in my post.

  38. rocko says:

    If only they let men work out at a chick gym and share the spas and showers, now that would be progressive, amirite?

  39. Dave says:

    If only they let men work out at a chick gym and share the spas and showers, now that would be progressive, amirite?

    Creep! You pervert! (sarcasm, of course)

  40. rocko says:

    I second mgtowhorseman. Let trannies compete. After all, it’s just sports. Maybe it will help with dismal ratings for women’s sports, especially in basketball or any other sport where women aren’t competing in leotards or bikinis. Imagine the WNBA where “women” can actually perform dunks such as the alley oop on a regular basis instead of waiting for the occasional tall cis woman such as Lisa Leslie to do regular dunks.

    And for the record let girls play high school football already. Screw em. When their little princesses start getting tackled all over the place by bulky 250lb+ defensive linesmen and end up as vegetables, I will have the pleasure of wagging my finger at those bitchy moms and cuck dads and say “You deserve this!”

  41. squid_hunt says:

    @rocko

    The reason the left gets away with their garbage is because men don’t push the envelope. They generally just want to be left alone. This is part of the panic about there not being any “real” men anymore. The next generation of men isn’t going to play their role properly to support women. Like that guy in South America that changed his gender for the benefits. They have to operate in the wide open with their dishonest charade if the trend continues. It all falls apart once men don’t have jobs and start suing women for alimony in large numbers.

  42. RIP women’s sports. It’s funny, if a men’s rights activist or religious traditionalist sealed the doom of women’s athletics, society would be in an uproar, but now that feminists have done it…silence.

  43. Mgtowhorseman, that’s nothing. The average woman is about 85% as big as the average man:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/body-measurements.htm

    And the average woman has, pound for pound, 63% as much muscle as the average man:

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/246036-how-much-more-muscle-mass-does-a-male-have-than-a-female/

    That means the average woman has slightly over HALF as much muscle as the average man. Yet some people expect biological women to compete with biological men in physical sports? Sheer idiocy.

  44. King Alfred says:

    In this case “Big Tom” is particularly instructive about what chivalry means. Rather than giving the woman his entrant number (assuming he has one), he attacks another man to force HIM to give the woman what she wants. Chivalry is all about forcing the OTHER MAN to pay the price for the whims of “the princess” which means throwing him out of the lifeboat or off the field as the case may be. The white knights rarely, if ever, sacrifice themselves in the name of chivalry but all too predictably demand that OTHER MEN must do so.

  45. Paul says:

    @TRP: “Yet some people expect biological women to compete with biological men in physical sports? Sheer idiocy.”

    No, finally equality! Both we will have only ONE competition, regardless of sex/gender/whatever. See how long women will last in such a competition (boxing, free-fight, American football, tennis, sprint, marathon, cycling, etc. etc.)

  46. Paul says:

    … “but that’s not fair!”, you can already hear their cries!

  47. When will religious traditionalists / biblicists reject the shameful moniker “conservative”? It’s well past time. This is embarrassing. Conservatism, be it political or religious, has always been an ideology of stop, not yet, just goo slower, then surrender. Conservatism in all its forms is a failed and pathetic ideology.

  48. MichaelC says:

    @Dota: Has it occurred to any of you that organized Christianity has been subverted?

    Stop thinking of pastors as people on a mission to spread the Word of Christ, and start thinking of them as businessmen, who have a concern about paying the rent and making a living as a pastor.

    As long as pastors see that it is the wives who decide which church will be attended, and thus which pastor receives the tithe, then they will cater to the Female Imperative, and subvert Christianity to whatever degree necessary to please the women.

  49. MichaelC says:

    @King Alfred: Chivalry is all about forcing the OTHER MAN to pay the price for the whims of “the princess”

    And thus we have the Chivalrous State, where politicians recognize that women will vote to eliminate any politician who dares to attempt to reduce any female advantage. Women, as a bloc, care far more about their feminine perks than about what’s happening in Syria or North Korea, and woe to any government official who attempts to make divorce more fair to men.

  50. American says:

    Off topic but too funny to leave out. Roddy weighs in.

  51. Oscar says:

    @ The Real Peterman

    It gets worse. People always recruit less than 100% of available muscle fibers in any given movement. One factor that makes elite athletes elite is that their genetics enable them to recruit a greater percentage of their muscle fibers than the average person does.

    It’s also true that men recruit greater percentages of their muscle fibers than women do.

    Comparing an elite man with an elite woman of equal weight yields the following results.

    Two Chinese athletes won gold medals in the 69 kg (152 lb) men’s and women’s weight classes at the Rio Olympics in 2016.

    Shi Zhiyong, male, 69 kg (152 lb)
    Snatch. 162 kg (357 lb)
    Clean and jerk. 198 kg (437 lb)

    Xiang Yanmei, female, 69 kg (152 lb)
    Snatch. 116 kg (255 lb)
    Clean and jerk. 145 kg (319 lb)

    That’s about as close to an apples to apples comparison as is humanly possible, and as you can see, the male lifter beat the female lifter by over 100 lbs in each lift. They’re both from the same country, they both started the same training program as children, they weigh the same, they’re attended by the same doctors, they’re probably even on the same PEDs.

    But the results are hugely different.

  52. Oscar says:

    King Alfred on April 17, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    “In this case ‘Big Tom’ is particularly instructive about what chivalry means. Rather than giving the woman his entrant number (assuming he has one)”

    Have you ever seen a marathon runner? Do you really think a marathon runner would have a nickname like “Big Tom”?

  53. Opus says:

    Another case of ‘let’s you and him fight over me’. My observation is that the most chivalrous men are those most desperate for female favours and the ones who never get any

  54. King Alfred says:

    @Oscar: Yes of course I have seen more than one marathon runner including a few of significant stature, and no I don’t seriously believe the Big Tom had a number. Whether Big Tom could run a marathon or had a number is not particularly relevant. The relevant point is that Big Tom made somebody else pay the price for his ideology- no way would he pay the price out of his own pocket, whether that means giving up his number or hosting his own marathon. Of course, beating up somebody who disagrees with him is right up his alley and fits his ideology perfectly. Chivalrous goons never give up their seats in the lifeboat or anywhere else (after all, they are the “captains;” they force other men to do so and berate any man who may be reluctant to do so.

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