Prager’s next lesson?

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76 Responses to Prager’s next lesson?

  1. Cane Caldo says:

    I’m so tired of the sodomite agenda. Any man who isn’t wise enough to keep his penis out of another man’s anus isn’t wise enough to lecture me or anyone else about anything.

  2. Gunner Q says:

    The link isn’t working for me. It’s just an image. A quick check on youTube didn’t turn it up, either..?

  3. feministhater says:

    The image is a mock up Gunner, click the links instead/

  4. feministhater says:

    Top Kek! Soon these conservatards will be fully embracing gaydom, sodomy and rebelliousness of God’s ordained order.

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  6. Anonymous Reader says:

    This meme deserves to go far. Best part, Prager probably just won’t get it.

  7. Gunner Q says:

    Okay, I thought background just meant related stuff.

    That’s a perfect example of Tradcons’ moral illiteracy. They see no conflict between “Christian, American, conservative” and “homosexual activist”. It’s one thing to have homosexual tendencies yet realize they’re evil and push against them, another to base one’s identity as a human being on a rejection of observable biology and God’s design for humanity.

    Do you know what it looks like when you try to destigmatize deviant behavior?
    http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2017/09/21/california-allow-hiv-positive-people-donate-blood/689703001/

  8. Greg says:

    Chesterton was right about conservatives.

  9. feeriker says:

    Given that “conservatives” merely conserve the past gains of progs, we can rest assured that within 30 years from now they will be fiercely advocating and defending gay marriage.

  10. anonymous_ng says:

    Dang, and I thought I’d run into some good fodder for the new week with this post-wall woman espousing the wonders that is Bumble.

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/how-whitney-wolfe-herd-changed-the-dating-game/

  11. David says:

    we can rest assured that within 30 years from now they will be fiercely advocating and defending gay marriage.

    30? Try five.

  12. earlthomas786 says:

    Man up and marry that male slut.

  13. Novaseeker says:

    ang, and I thought I’d run into some good fodder for the new week with this post-wall woman espousing the wonders that is Bumble.

    Heh. That was a “funny” article. Bumble has always struck me as just an another element of the increasingly open hypergamy in the environment, really, nothing more.

  14. SkylerWurden says:

    Hilarious lines in that Bumble article. Mid forties and single and she only wants a guy who owns a sailing boat. Her awesome opening line was: “Where were those sailing pictures taken?”

    The creator of the app openly admits she’s “forced friends to end their relationships” because she felt the guy wasn’t good enough.

    Dudes “moved to tears” because they had to ask the chick out, and then bragging that the app still has this dynamic even with the “Women message first!” gimmick.

    The app creator’s dad is Jewish (every time lol) her mom is “Catholic” (so you know she’s not your typical middle-aged slut)

    Her original idea was an app for teen girls where compliments are the only form of communication allowed.

    On the bright side, she ended up marrying an heir to oil money, so unlike all her apps users, she managed to stick the landing.

  15. earlthomas786 says:

    The creator of the app openly admits she’s “forced friends to end their relationships” because she felt the guy wasn’t good enough.

    There’s nobody who is a bigger enemy to your relationships (well Satan maybe)…than your woman’s ‘friends’. These man-hating seed planters will put anything into your woman’s head that breaking it up is always a good idea.

  16. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    I thought this quote (from the Bumble article) was telling:

    Now in my early forties, I was part of the largest boom in single women ever. Some days this demographic shift felt like a feminist triumph, and other days it felt like a dating disaster. There were too many of us out there, with our yoga poses and our tasteful cleavage and our selfies from Machu Picchu, chasing a limited number of attractive, intelligent, successful single men …

    “Too many” women for the “limited number” of single men on her radar. Most men are invisible to her. She’s still playing by the 80/20 Rule, despite being in her early 40s, and finding it ever harder to score with those Top 20% Alphas.

  17. Frank K says:

    It’s one thing to have homosexual tendencies yet realize they’re evil and push against them

    Exactly. It would be like saying: “I’m a conservative Christian who happens to be an adulterer. Being an adulterer is just a small part of who I am, a footnote ….”

    Bzzzt! Thanks for playing.

    The predictions are coming true, cuckservatives are now starting to accept sodomy. In just a few years they will ostracize you as being a Neanderthal for pushing back.

  18. stickdude90 says:

    She’s still playing by the 80/20 Rule, despite being in her early 40s, and finding it ever harder to score with those Top 20% Alphas.

    It does seem like some part of her brain has recognized that she missed out on her chance, even if she can’t bring herself to put it into those words.

    I’d long rolled my eyes at friends and magazine articles telling me to get serious about marriage, but as I inched toward forty, I could feel myself up against it, while guys my own age paired off with twenty-somethings.

  19. stickdude90 says:

    Oh, and the best line of the entire article?

    Perpetual singlehood just happened to me.

  20. anonymous_ng says:

    That whole Bumble piece reads like this:

    I just slipped and fell and landed on his dick. I don’t know how it happened. Life is like that some times. I wonder if he’s going to call me again?

  21. anonymous_ng says:

    Here was a semi-interesting adjuct to the Bumble piece.

    https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/texas-monthly-bumble.php

    “In an editorial meeting on January 17, staffers at the Austin-based magazine sat in “stunned silence” when Taliaferro, who arrived at the magazine last winter, seemed to suggest that the magazine had entered into a partnership with Bumble, the popular woman-centric dating app. The app’s founder, 28-year-old Texan Whitney Wolfe Herd, would be featured on the cover, and Bumble would use paid social media promotion to boost the story.”

  22. Dalrock says:

    @RPL

    “Too many” women for the “limited number” of single men on her radar. Most men are invisible to her. She’s still playing by the 80/20 Rule, despite being in her early 40s, and finding it ever harder to score with those Top 20% Alphas.

    This may be part of the mix, but the numbers really have moved against her. Women in their 20s are much more likely to be married than same age men, and they have a large pool of attractive older men available to them. This flips when they are in their 40s. On top of that, as you look at older cohorts of single men a growing number have very low earnings. Basically, unmarried men in their 40s and older earn like women do. https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2013/07/20/forfeiting-the-patriarchal-dividend/

  23. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Perpetual singlehood just happened to me.’

    It’s amazing how empowered women are today…and still don’t have any agency in their lives.

  24. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Well, (the twice divorced) Prager was always supportive of divorce, so it’s not entirely surprising that he found it so easy to accept gay marriage.

    Prager has also ceded ground on trannies. Apparently, he is fine with trannies, provided the tranny changes both his sexual identity and the sexual identity of his name.

    In 2015, Prager wrote a column on trannies. The Jewish Journal of Los Angeles received angry emails over Prager’s alleged “transphobia.” Prager responded that he had no problem with trannies, only that a tranny rabbi had identified as female, but kept her male name.

    Here is Prager’s response, with the key quote below: http://jewishjournal.com/opinion/180282/

    The only reason I mentioned the rabbi was that I take issue with the rabbi retaining a female name while identifying as a man. I did not and do not take issue with the rabbi identifying as a male. I take issue with deliberate blurring of male-female identities.

    When Bruce Jenner came out as a woman, he/she took a female name, Caitlyn. Once he presented himself to the world as a woman, Jenner thought being called Bruce would be confusing and inappropriate. Rabbi Silverstein could have taken a male name — if only, for example, by shortening “Becky” to “Beck.” Had the rabbi done so, I would never have cited this example.

    Retaining a distinctly female name while being called a man represents a desire to blur gender distinctions — which is all I care about in this matter,

    This is Prager’s original tranny article: http://jewishjournal.com/opinion/180015/the-torah-and-the-transgendered/

    And the angry readers’ response: http://jewishjournal.com/opinion/180237/

    So the new cuckservative position is: Gay marriage, fine. Trannies, fine. Just be sure to change your name to reflect your new sex.

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  26. The Question says:

    “Prager has also ceded ground on trannies. Apparently, he is fine with trannies, provided the tranny changes both his sexual identity and the sexual identity of his name.”

    Prager is like most tradcons – they keep redrawing the boundary lines as the Left makes further inroads to hide their losses. It’s only when you look at the greater context of the last 50 years that you realize what’s been lost.

    Further, they’re concerned about keeping everything together until they die. That means no violent upheaval, no upsetting the stock market that their 401ks and pensions rely on, no social revolutions that might endanger their funding sources.

    The problem is we can;’t go much further before the society collapses. At some point, you remove the wrong part of a house structure and the whole edifice falls down.

    My fear is that our wretched capacity to tolerate it before something gives will extend this out so that the fateful day arrives later, rather than sooner. Unfortunately, we can’t rebuild until that day comes.

  27. Darwinian Arminian says:

    @anonymous_ng
    Dang, and I thought I’d run into some good fodder for the new week with this post-wall woman espousing the wonders that is Bumble.

    I’ll see that and raise. If you want to hear a truly epic tale of post-wall self-immolation then just take a gander at the following tweet. It chronicles the journey of a young career woman who chooses to freeze her eggs and delay childbearing so as to better fulfill her professional ambitions.

    Hilarity ensues. Unless you happen to be the woman who froze her eggs, that is:

  28. earlthomas786 says:

    So the new cuckservative position is: Gay marriage, fine. Trannies, fine. Just be sure to change your name to reflect your new sex.

    And then soon pedophilia, necrophilia, incest, and beastiality will all be fine as long as you are a conservative who wants free market and small government. It’s not like the sexual perversion is a problem or anything.

  29. SkylerWurden says:

    basically, unmarried men in their 40s and older earn like women do.

    Me in fifteen years. Damn… Future sure looks bleak. Oh well. Some winners means some losers.

  30. anonymous_ng says:

    @Darwinian Arminian – Bravo Sir. Bravo.

  31. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    The Question: Prager is like most tradcons – they keep redrawing the boundary lines as the Left makes further inroads to hide their losses.

    I get the sense that it’s about saving face. Tradcons keep surrendering ground so they won’t be accused of “hate.” All they want is a token victory to save face. A symbolic victory to maintain the illusion that they stand for, and successfully defended … something.

    There’s an almost plaintive cry in Prager’s words. A tradcon begging for acceptance. “Please, can’t I just have this? I’ll agree to gay marriage. I’ll agree that women can have penises. But please, give me something. It doesn’t have to be anything important. Can I be allowed to oppose bestiality? Or if you insist on bestiality rights, what if I agree to bestiality with mammals, but not with reptiles? Can I at least be allowed to oppose bestiality with reptiles?”

  32. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Why me? What did I do wrong?’

    You tried to play God.

  33. Lost Patrol says:

    @ RPL

    A tradcon begging for acceptance.

    I’ll have to refer you to the new and improved little g gospel of the modern era, wherein the highest of all virtue is “Be Nice.”

  34. Darwinian Arminian says:

    @Red Pill Latecomer
    “Or if you insist on bestiality rights, what if I agree to bestiality with mammals, but not with reptiles? Can I at least be allowed to oppose bestiality with reptiles?”

    To which the Left will reply, “To allow you that would be . . . . cold-blooded.”

  35. earlthomas786 says:

    Can I at least be allowed to oppose bestiality with reptiles?”

    So what you’re saying is that reptiles don’t deserve love? Why do you have to be a reptophobe?

    If Cletus wants to marry an alligator that should be protected in the Constitution.

  36. earlthomas786 says:

    If tradcons really want acceptance…why don’t they just go full bore progressive. That way they don’t have to lie to themselves anymore. Most people can see through their game anyway.

  37. earlthomas786 says:

    Conservatives weren’t ever really about morality anyway…it was mostly a mix of economics and liberterianism. That’s why I laugh when the liberals keep saying that side is the side of ‘family values’. Most high ranking conservatives fornicate, divorce, re-marry and do pretty much a lot of the same sexual perversions as liberals…while keeping up the facade they are more moral.

  38. Devon35 says:

    Here’s a Vogue writer in her thirties headed down the same path. It’s amazing how similar these women magazine writers are.
    https://www.vogue.com/article/30s-and-single-and-not-settling-slutever

  39. earlthomas786 says:

    Here’s a Vogue writer in her thirties headed down the same path.

    After reading that…it’s painfully obvious why she’s single.

  40. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Here’s the money quote from that Vogue article:

    I also think that a lot of people — particularly people in creative fields, whose professional lives have less predictable trajectories — see themselves as always on the brink of “making it.” Like, “Well, my career is just about to take off, after which I’ll be rich and famous, and then I’ll have access to better, hotter people.” I have been quietly thinking that to myself for 10 years now. And while I don’t think my career is going poorly, if you had asked me at 25 what I would be doing at 31, I would have said that I’d have already written a best-selling book and made a movie.

    An open admission of hypergamy right there. She’s holding off on marrying, because she expects someone better to come along later.

    What she doesn’t admit is that if she did marry, and then because rich and famous, with access to “better, hotter people,” she’d dump her husband. And feel justified in doing so.

  41. earlthomas786 says:

    And now she is the 5,393,321 woman to make it to the 6th floor of the husband store.

  42. American says:

    The Bible speaks directly to “homosexual behavior” or “homosexual acts.” A “homosexual”, from a scriptural perspective, is someone that chooses to engage in homosexual acts. Homosexuality as an “identity” is a modern non-biblical construction.

    I have a normal sex drive and have been celibate for 30 years since converting to Christianity. We are not robots. The choice to engage in heterosexual acts, homosexual acts, or abstinence with regard to other people is a real choice that exists with each of us. We CAN choose.

    Those who choose to remain unrepentant to the point of death face eternal condemnation/punishment by the one and only holy creator God, and this includes unrepentant people who have chosen to immerse themselves in homosexual acts. But there are many extremely important reasons why homosexuality should be shunned by soceity that even atheist evolutionists, such as Unwin, found very good reasons to expouse upon.

  43. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    This year’s Grammy Awards were sexist: https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2018/01/29/grammys-president-women-need-step-up-after-men-sweep-years-awards/1073927001/

    #GrammysSoMale?

    That’s the hashtag brewing after Sunday’s Grammy Awards, where only one of the nine main prizes presented during the telecast was won by a woman. …

    Dozens of artists — Cara included — came to the Grammys wearing white roses in solidarity with Time’s Up and sexual misconduct victims. But that spirit of female empowerment wasn’t reflected in this year’s winners …

  44. Iowa Slim says:

    C’mon, is that Vogue article a parody?

    “Essentially, we are far more discriminating in our 30s than we were in our 20s, which is both a blessing and a curse. We know more about what we want and what we won’t tolerate—but to a point where almost no one is good enough….Sigh. Sometimes I think I should’ve picked someone when I was 25 and stupid, and then just made it work.”

    No, Bossie. You did the right thing. Wait until you’re 35 and a lot stupider, thus making it impossible. The gene pool is in bad enough shape already.

  45. The Question says:

    @Dalrock

    Totally OT, but I thought you’d enjoy this short anecdote. I was at a friend’s house and saw in their DVD cabinet a 1958 film with Ingrid Bergman where she plays an English missionary to China in the late 1930s. I asked to borrow it – who can resist a film with Ingrid Bergman? So I go to watch the movie and pause when I see the name of the woman she plays, thinking “I’ve heard this name before. Where?”

    I then suddenly recalled she was the missionary you mentioned in a blog post who prayed God would send her a husband in China and he never showed up.

    Unfortunately, it will be hard for me to watch now without thinking about that fact, especially since it’s Ingrid Bergman.

  46. SkylerWurden says:

    The Vogue author should be comforted by the fact that very soon, she won’t be the only one of her friends who is single:

    Because, of course I want to spend Labor Day weekend manually inflating a 6-foot blow-up penis, drinking a month’s rent worth of rosé, and pretending to be happy for Karen.
    When I was younger, I took it for granted that my friends would always be available for hungover brunches and emergency threesomes.

    Her friends are almost guaranteed to end up as early-to-mid 40s divorcees. Sex romp “bachelorette” (silly word) parties following years of slutting it up, marrying men who are either too beta to satisfy or too alpha to stay satisfied. Probably all cohabitating before marriage and likely not church-going (though that seems to only marginally improve your chances these days). Dollars to dimes says in a decade at least 50% of her friends have either abandoned their marriages or been abandoned.

  47. People actually watch the “Grammy Awards”? It’s still on?

  48. feeriker says:

    Because, of course I want to spend Labor Day weekend manually inflating a 6-foot blow-up penis, drinking a month’s rent worth of rosé,then vomiting it all back up all over the living room while bawling like a toddler who just had her favorite dolly taken away, and trashing the house in a drunken, jealous, depressed rage just for good measure before finally blacking out, and pretending to be happy for Karen.

    You left out a few important descriptive details, missy.

    When I was younger, I took it for granted that my friends would always be available for hungover brunches and emergency threesomes.

    That statement is another excellent example of how, far from leading to a purposeful, productive, and responsible adult life, singleness for women, especially once they’ve slammed hard into the Wall, is just an indefinitely extended “adultolescence.”

  49. Spring 1989 this band stormed upon the pop-top-forty scene. I was a senior in high school. They won a “grammy” for this. That is when I had enough and quit watching “the grammy award show” or paying attention. Everyone seems to have won a “grammy” at this point…..it’s getting out of hand “best new folk act with solo vocal with best prodcution”

    Everyone gets a trophy now, or we’re gonna have “hurt feelings”

    Anyway…….spring 1989……….and in Janaury 1990 they were the “best new act” at “The Grammy’s”

  50. feeriker says:

    People actually watch the “Grammy Awards”? It’s still on?

    Proof positive that there are massive numbers of people devoid of life purpose and with waaaay too much idle time on their hands.

  51. I don’t think the term “sexuality” exists in the Bible, ANY Bible. I think God said man shall not lay with man NOR woman with woman NOR man with beast. Sexuality? I think that is a term that man made up to define “preference.”

    The problem I have with this is so many of the guys that I knew who were “gay” married women and had children after they were done having sex with men. And so many of the women that I knew who identified as being lesbian, I think they started to pursue other women for intimacy only AFTER they discovered that men wanted nothing to do with them. I have never known any lipstick lesbians (not that they don’t exist.)

    I don’t know. I just think this whole concept about “sexuality” is just a way to excuse male behavior where men want to be promiscuous and women feel rejected so they seek emotional intimacy and comfort in each other. I don’t think it is something that they are born with. I never did.

  52. I lived in San Francisco for over a decade. There were zero “femme” or “lipstick” lesbians there/ Yeah…..I know, TV shows and movies tell us this lie that there are tons, and this is the standard or image of lesbainism that is made gold

    The reality? Women with mannish haircuts or asexual haircuts. Overweight. They like men’s clothing….and not in an “Annie Hall” cute way. I’ve met plenty that are friendly but more than enough that are some of the meanest people you may indeed run into. Violent whern drunk too

  53. feeriker says:

    Anyway…….spring 1989……….and in Janaury 1990 they were the “best new act” at “The Grammy’s”

    And of course not very long after that they were unccovered as the frauds that they were, stripped of their accolades, and quickly memoryholed.

    That event should have shredded the Grammy’s reputation for all time, but of course the brainless sheeple didn’t care to look any deeper into how corrupt and fraudulent the whole entertainment industry is.

    Incidentally, here’s Ol’ Cappy Cap’s take on it. I wholeheartedly agree with his conclusion.

    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-end-of-awards.html?m=1

  54. Dan says:

    I have zero problems with gays getting married in a civil union. Why should hetero men be the ONLY ones to run the risk of bankruptcy and pauperhood at the hands of blackrobed pirates on the judicial bench.

  55. Opus says:

    Grammys

    I own a Grammy award winning album which is unlistenable – as it stands. For reasons which i cannot fathom RCA released Elvis’ How Great Thou Art at a considerably slower speed than that at which it was recorded. Are RCA, the listening public and the Grammy judges deaf? – or is Elvis so great that whatever he still wins.

    Happily my replay machine has pitch control.

  56. Höllenhund says:

    Here was a semi-interesting adjuct to the Bumble piece.

    https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/texas-monthly-bumble.php

    “In an editorial meeting on January 17, staffers at the Austin-based magazine sat in “stunned silence” when Taliaferro, who arrived at the magazine last winter, seemed to suggest that the magazine had entered into a partnership with Bumble, the popular woman-centric dating app. The app’s founder, 28-year-old Texan Whitney Wolfe Herd, would be featured on the cover, and Bumble would use paid social media promotion to boost the story.”

    Her name is seriously “Herd”?

  57. Hose_B says:

    Best quote from the. Vogue article…….
    Not long ago I would have brushed this off as misogynistic, but I’m starting to wonder if that’s simply a cop-out because I’m afraid of dealing with this harsh reality.

    How often would this statement apply????

    Infinite

  58. Hose_B says:

    @feeriker
    Anyway…….spring 1989……….and in Janaury 1990 they were the “best new act” at “The Grammy’s”

    And of course not very long after that they were unccovered as the frauds that they were, stripped of their accolades, and quickly memory-holed
    Shouldn’t judge Milli Vanilli so hard. Those kids got screwed by heir management company (Because they were naive). The company basically signed them, gave them an advance and a vacation. When they got back to so into the studio, they were told that their album was not only already written, but recorded!! And they were just supposed to perform. Don’t like it? Give the money back. Oh, you were young and dumb and spent it? Too bad, do what we say or give the money back.

    But the two guys got the rap for it, not their managers. And as Paul Harvey would say “that’s the rest of the story”

  59. feeriker says:

    Hose_B says:
    January 30, 2018 at 6:07 am

    Also, their producer, Franz Reuther (a.k.a. “Frank Farian”) pulled much the same sleazy trick with Boney M, of whom he was also producer, but apparently had a lot more success with them in “putting the shuck on the rubes.” So it’s not as if this guy didn’t already trigger “DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!! DANGER!!” alarms.

  60. Hugh Mann says:

    @Darwinian Arminian – here’s the link to that sad tale of that you-go-girl who froze her eggs so she could have it all, kids and The Career.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/01/27/feature/she-championed-the-idea-that-freezing-your-eggs-would-free-your-career-but-things-didnt-quite-work-out/

    “Adams remembers feeling a wonderful sense of freedom after she froze her eggs in her late 30s, despite the $19,000 cost. Her plan was to work a few more years, find a great guy to marry and still have a house full of her own children.

    Things didn’t turn out the way she hoped.

    In early 2017, with her 45th birthday looming and no sign of Mr. Right, she decided to start a family on her own. She excitedly unfroze the 11 eggs she had stored and selected a sperm donor.

    Two eggs failed to survive the thawing process. Three more failed to fertilize. That left six embryos, of which five appeared to be abnormal. The last one was implanted in her uterus. On the morning of March 7, she got the devastating news that it, too, had failed.

    Adams was not pregnant, and her chances of carrying her genetic child had just dropped to near zero. She remembers screaming like “a wild animal,” throwing books, papers, her laptop — and collapsing to the ground.

    “It was one of the worst days of my life. There were so many emotions. I was sad. I was angry. I was ashamed,” she said. “I questioned, ‘Why me?’ ‘What did I do wrong?’ ””

    We’re going to hear a lot more of these stories, before they slowly die away (because a childless fortysomething can still be attractive and get media coverage, whereas not so for a childless sixty-something).

  61. Novaseeker says:

    I don’t know. I just think this whole concept about “sexuality” is just a way to excuse male behavior where men want to be promiscuous and women feel rejected so they seek emotional intimacy and comfort in each other. I don’t think it is something that they are born with. I never did.

    Sex differences here.

    Women are all basically bisexual in potential. Some are more attracted to other women than others, but all are attracted to some degree and have the potential for same sex relations. Very few women are hardcore “women only” lesbians, however (there are some, but they are not common and most “lesbians” are not actually “women only”). I’ve known a couple of lipstickers in my work history — one of them, who was a cute 7, left her husband for another woman at the office (also around a 7) — both were in their early 30s, “straight looking and acting” and cute. All women have this potential, trust me.

    With men, it’s quite different. Almost all men are straight in that they are visually aroused by women, and not at all aroused sexually by men’s bodies. A small number of men are visually stimulated by other men and were this way since puberty. This is a minority of “gay men”, but they do exist and some number of them probably were “born that way”. A larger number, probably the plurality, of gay men are gay because they were “turned out” by an older boy or older man when they were younger, had an imprinting sexual experience (or experiences) which was gay male, and therefore developed a gay male sexual preference based on these imprinting sexual experiences. Some of these guys are still attracted to women visually to some degree, but sexually they are imprinted as gay and (in many cases strongly) prefer gay sex. Then there are the guys who are bisexual and “any old port in a storm” types, who aren’t necessarily very attracted to men visually (if at all), but sometimes have sex with men because it’s easier to have sex with other men than it is to seduce/cajole women (if you think this isn’t a thing, take a look at all the “straight” guys posting ads for gay sex on CL).

    So sex differences. With men, almost all of us are straight, a very small number are “born that way” gay, a larger number are “imprinted that way” gay, and some number are “what’s easily available” guys who are attracted to women but have sex with men anyway. With women, basically all of them are bisexual in potential — generally speaking, most who find themselves in relationships with women over the long term (not as young experimentation) are, in some articulable way, disappointed with men due to their experiences with men, not being able to get the men they want, not liking how the men they want have treated them and so on.

  62. Caspar Reyes says:

    @ Dan

    I have zero problems with gays getting married in a civil union. Why should hetero men be the ONLY ones to run the risk of bankruptcy and pauperhood at the hands of blackrobed pirates on the judicial bench.

    I have a big problem with it and so should you. Since you put it in purely economic terms, the bankruptcy of a faggot is his alone to experience; that of a normal family has consequences that last generations. More importantly, why should a “family” of cocksucking assfucking sodomites who breed nothing but AIDS get a “family” discount for participating in my health insurance pool?

  63. Hugh Mann says:

    @Devon35 – that Vogue link is impressive, too, Ms Scortiano is definitely a keeper, can’t understand why she’s still single.

    I browsed her other article titles, how about “Is dating someone with an Android a deal-breaker?”. You can see she’s a woman who cares about the important things.

  64. Höllenhund says:

    From the Vogue article:

    Last week I had a new air conditioner delivered, only to realize that it was too heavy for me to carry up four flights of stairs to my apartment. So, being single, I had to hire a random man from the Internet to carry it for me. Then I had to hire a different man to install it

    Huh? She couldn’t find a beta orbiter, male co-worker or some other random beta who’d help carrying it? Seriously? Is she also unaware that it has always been necessary to hire specialists to install an AC?

  65. earlthomas786 says:

    You can see she’s a woman who cares about the important things.

    Mediocre sex parties are at the top of her list.

    I can’t imagine why an Eyes Wide Shut attendee wouldn’t make a great wife.

  66. Gunner Q says:

    seventiesjason @ January 29, 2018 at 9:59 pm:
    “People actually watch the “Grammy Awards”? It’s still on?”

    Not all Baby Boomers are dead yet. I suspect Rolling Stone Magazine will host the biggest kool-aid party ever when the last Beatle dies.

  67. earlthomas786 says:

    This is America’s new hybrid family system. Its pillars are easy no-fault divorce and and the government’s child support system. The government aggressively collects child support from fathers, and supports the children when the father cannot (or does not). It is a subsidy for divorce. In Economics 101 we learn that if we subsidize something, we get more of it.

    That’s why I fear the state more when it comes to marriage than any particular woman. Now you can add having a kid outside of wedlock on top of that. Divorce and promiscuity are the two things that have actually brought sexual oppression via the state from the sexual liberation.

  68. Opus says:

    I like what Novaseeker says (although I am wondering about the ‘born-that-way’ category). I would though it hardly fits his taxonomy add two further categories or sub-categories: those who are somewhat sociopath-ic and oblivious of boundaries enjoy forcing their will on others, and those who are pathologically shy in the presence of women such that their sexuality finds another receptive outlet .

    I doubt that there is such a thing as Homosexuality, merely homosexual behaviour. It is performative – like dressing-up as Elvis and singing Rock-a-Hula – or dressing as a woman and calling yourself Loretta. Faking it though you will never make it.

    Women: they are always hugging each other, are they not. Lesbianism can be used to fitness test. Such a woman suffers no real disadvantage in the sexual market but the same is not true of those men who are outed even for one sexual indiscretion. A women I worked with who lived with or was partners with another woman and who was perfectly open about this nevertheless was not averse and in my office and without any prompting or encouragement from myself (honest #metoo investigating office) to lifting her bra-less sweatshirt for my perusal. I, naturally, asked that she do it again – which she did.

  69. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    One of the posted comments from the Vassar article:

    Something is wrong when jobs and career paths are structured to disadvantage having children in one’s twenties, when nature makes it easiest and most likely to happen. I think the real solution is not high-tech medicine, but more workplace flexibility and acceptance of the biological needs of women.

    So the workplace must be changed to accept “the biological needs of women.”

    Women don’t understand the concept of “workplace.” They think it’s supposed to be structured for fun, gossip, socializing, self-validation, self-actualization, self-empowerment, promotion, and cash & prizes.

    Alien to women is the notion of a workplace structured to most efficiently produce work.

  70. Höllenhund says:

    Women don’t understand the concept of “workplace.” They think it’s supposed to be structured for fun, gossip, socializing, self-validation, self-actualization, self-empowerment, promotion, and cash & prizes.

    Alien to women is the notion of a workplace structured to most efficiently produce work.

    It’s not really that. Women have worked throughout history, one way or another. But it normally didn’t impede their biological needs.

  71. feministhater says:

    It’s not really that. Women have worked throughout history, one way or another. But it normally didn’t impede their biological needs.

    That’s because they worked at home, on the farm or at the family business in close proximity to their children. Once women went into the workforce proper, they spend more time away from family than with it, they spend most of their fertile years “working” and none with a family.

    The work that women used to do, such as house work, looking after kids or even the break breaking work they used to do when modern appliances didn’t exist, is not the same as work they do today. One was done to further the needs of the family, to increase womb productivity, the modern version severely curtails this and tends to be done to further the material needs of the woman herself and not her supposed family.

    Instead of realising that men and women fulfill different roles with respect to raising children and creating families and that men have a innate, natural born advantage to work harder, for longer and at a vastly increased level of productivity, we instead seek ways to diminish this advantage, to elevate women in the workplace, whilst bemoaning the lack of productive men and lack of children from career gal sluts.

    Denial.

  72. feeriker says:

    “[Adams] remembers screaming like “a wild animal,” throwing books, papers, her laptop — and collapsing to the ground.

    “It was one of the worst days of my life. There were so many emotions. I was sad. I was angry…”

    We’re going to hear a lot more of these stories,

    These episodes are not only going to become routine, but watch also for “the law” to be changed so as to allow women the uncontested RIGHT to have their kicky-screamy juvenile hissy fit meltdowns at any time, anywhere, for any reason without legal consequences for whatever injuries or damage they cause in the process.

  73. feeriker says:

    Instead of realising that men and women fulfill different roles with respect to raising children and creating families and that men have a innate, natural born advantage to work harder, for longer and at a vastly increased level of productivity, we instead seek ways to diminish this advantage, to elevate women in the workplace, whilst bemoaning the lack of productive men and lack of children from career gal sluts.

    The ultimate goal of the One Percenters who are behind all of this disaster and dysfunction is to discourage us lower-order types from forming families and reproducing at all. They’ve succeeded in the first part beyond their wildest dreams. The second part not so much, unless flooding society with abused and neglected bastards is part of their plan for society’s slow self-destruction (and I certainly wouldn’t put it past them).

  74. feeriker says:

    Alien to women is the notion of a workplace structured to most efficiently produce work.

    That stands to reason when the vast majority of them hold what can only be described as government-mandated sinecures where no actual essential, productive, profitable work is involved.

  75. Jack Morrow says:

    In Trudeaupia–still officially knows as “Canada”–sodomite marriage, which wasn’t a Liberal Party value as recently as the 1997 federal election campaign, was officially made a Conservative Party value at a party convention in 2016.

    Dennis Prager once wrote an article against homosexual behaviour, pointing out how the Old Testament description of it as an “abomination” means condemnation in the strongest possible terms. That article was written 25 or so years ago.

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