She made a mistake once.

She thought she was wrong, but it turned out she wasn’t.

This is the lesson Wendy Griffith learned in the process of becoming a 53 year old never married career woman.  After five months of dating, Griffith started pushing “Michael” for a marriage proposal.  When Michael told her she was attractive but not marriage material, Griffith pushed for answers:

How could this guy who drove several hours every weekend to see me, spent big bucks on hotels, dinners and flowers and kissed me passionately, not see me as “the one”?…

…Michael told me that he had doubts about our relationship because of the way I had treated him when I was on the road for work, reporting in New York and elsewhere around the country during the previous months. “I didn’t feel like I had a girlfriend when you were traveling,” he told me. “You were so cold and distant.”

I apologized. Perhaps he was right. I had been a bit heavily focused on work, but truth be told, that had been months before, when I still hadn’t been too sure about us.

But the lesson of the book is that if Michael were the man God had chosen for her, he would have wanted to marry Griffith no matter how she treated him.  Later on the same page Griffith confesses her sin, the sin of lacking faith in her own awesomeness (emphasis mine):

All I knew was that fear had seized every part of my being. As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault. The enemy of my soul had ruthlessly pushed the “rejection button”, and my life would never be the same.

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91 Responses to She made a mistake once.

  1. Keith Hayes says:

    It’s the guy’s fault!
    [head slap]

    Of course!

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  3. Casey says:

    As Novaseeker previously stated, she is easy on the eyes for 53.
    That said, she is still 53…..and should be seeking partners older than herself.

    Someone stated Griffith’s worth at $ 7 million. That’s a death knell for a woman this old seeking a relationship.

    Women don’t like to date down the socio-economic ladder.
    Meaning…..she will insist on men who have at least $ 7 million in net worth.

    I’d reckon she still has an eye on guys 10 years younger than herself, who in turn are eyeing up women 10 years younger than themselves.

    She is SOL, as men with that type of wealth are going to marry younger women. Period.

    De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

  4. Dave says:

    Later on the same page Griffith confesses her sin, the sin of lacking faith in her own awesomeness

    That is a great sin. It’s good she realized this and repented as soon as possible. She is a pearl of great price; a prize to be won. It is not a good thing to demean one of the most awesome creatures of God in existence just like that. This woman is fearfully and wonderfully made, and she must never forget that. Everrrr! It’s just heartbreaking that a worthy man has not discovered this gem of a woman yet, otherwise she would have been married long ago.
    /sarcasm ends/

  5. honeycomb says:

    I can’t imagine why she’s not married. That much awesome is hard to handle all by yourself.

    Of course she left no room for humble pie after de’vour’ing one free meal (& dessert) after the next.

    She’ll get all tgis corrected in book two I am certain.

  6. Dave says:

    That said, she is still 53…..and should be seeking partners older than herself.

    Women like Wendy wouldn’t want a previously married man; she is worth more than that. She wants a man with no baggage. Unfortunately for her, any man who is never married at or beyond age 53 will probably never marry.

  7. Cane Caldo says:

    As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault.

    Whew! That was a close one. Almost had a moment of clear reflection.

  8. earlthomas786 says:

    As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault.

    That’s the only rational thing I’ve seen so far from this book she wrote.

  9. honeycomb says:

    Dave said ..
    Unfortunately for her, any man who is never married at or beyond age 53 will probably never marry.

    I’m not 50 yet .. (but .. I can’t speak for all 50+ year old men) .. and as a never married man .. I will never marry.

    Retirement goals have already been set in stone.

  10. Frank K says:

    All I knew was that fear had seized every part of my being. As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault. The enemy of my soul had ruthlessly pushed the “rejection button”, and my life would never be the same.

    Coulda, shoulda, woulda,

    They only become “the one that got away” later, when she realizes she won’t find someone better. I’m sure at the time she just shrugged and told herself “I guess he wasn’t my promised man.”

    Someone stated Griffith’s worth at $ 7 million. That’s a death knell for a woman this old seeking a relationship.

    If she could turn off the the hypergamy she would have found a great and godly man, just not one as wealthy as she is. She wanted a Mr. Big, and didn’t find one. I especially loved the disdain she expressed for the frugal college prof and his “jalopy”. Sorry, sweetheart, not everyone gets paid hundreds of thousands per year to be a good looking talking head. Some of us do real work, and we get paid a lot less for it, too.

  11. earlthomas786 says:

    They only become “the one that got away” later, when she realizes she won’t find someone better. I’m sure at the time she just shrugged and told herself “I guess he wasn’t my promised man.”

    I’m sure this is something most women don’t get.

    They can get a lot of male attention and get it easily.
    They can get a lot of dates from men and get them easily.
    They can get a lot of sex from men and get it easily.
    When it comes to getting and securing commitment from a man…it doesn’t come easily.

  12. Novaseeker says:

    I’d reckon she still has an eye on guys 10 years younger than herself, who in turn are eyeing up women 10 years younger than themselves.

    Yeah that’s likely.

    Remember the chart from OKC which showed that men of all ages preferred women in their early 20s, whereas women up to late 40s preferred men 1-4 years older, but then flipped to preferring men in their 40s regardless of the women’s age. Wendy, at 53, almost certainly believes she is entitled to a hot younger man given how she looks, and we know from what she says that she expects that man to spend extravagantly on her, as an imitation of God’s extravagant love, so he’d better also have the cash to do so. When you understand those expectations, especially taken together, you can easily understand why she is single and why, unless those change, she will almost certainly remain so.

  13. Novaseeker says:

    When it comes to getting and securing commitment from a man…it doesn’t come easily.

    Oh they can get that, too — just not from the guys they *want* to commit to them. Most end up settling for one of the beta bucks who is lined up outside their door 24/7. The holdouts end up like Wendy here, but that’s because she doesn’t want the men who would be willing to commit to her — there are likely thousands who would be willing.

  14. Anon says:

    For everyone claiming she is that pretty, I am not sure.

    She has some elements much better than other women her age, but her face is somewhat troubling.

    She has the look of a cold, calculated extractor. No human warmth at all.
    ______________________________________________

    That said, I don’t mind one bit that she is extracting cash from cuckservatives and whiteknights. She has these expectations because plenty of men enabled those expectations.

    Tons of cuckservatives are quite willing to spend $400+ on a woman like this, without even a makeout session in return. This is a necessary step towards draining these cuckservatives of their funds, which in turn helps to collapse the current system.

  15. Days of Broken Arrows says:

    “As Novaseeker previously stated, she is easy on the eyes for 53.”

    I hate to take all of you nice religious folks into Heartiste territory, but was she easy on the nose? I’m not kidding. I found a big problem with older single women is they cake on so much makeup and spray on so much perfume that they smell like either the hospital or your annoying second grade teacher. This has an insidious, hidden psychological effect on single men.

    This is less the case with married women because 1). They not out to impress men (usually), so they don’t go for the pancake-clown look and 2). Their husbands have time to acclimate to such stuff or veto makeup (as I did — I prefer the hippie look).

    Finally, did I mention recently that this woman never had a relationship last longer than two years? I don’t think I hammered that point enough. Talk about warning signs.

  16. thedeti says:

    Dalrock:

    Later on the same page Griffith confesses her sin, the sin of lacking faith in her own awesomeness:

    (Quote Griffith): All I knew was that fear had seized every part of my being. As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault. The enemy of my soul had ruthlessly pushed the “rejection button”, and my life would never be the same.

    Maybe I’m missing it but I don’t see how this is “lacking faith in her own awesomeness”. I do get that from reading on in the book sample in the link – she works hard to make Michael love her, she takes him to her favorite places, she takes him to meet her family in Pittsburgh, she mentions him on the air, she takes him to CBN functions etc. She’s showing her “awesomeness” and it’s not working.

    I think Michael was really just conflicted about her because of all the reasons given in this series of posts – her age, her inability to have kids, her spotty relationship history. I suspect also that he was a man with considerable options, and had other plates spinning, and she was not going to have sex with him before marriage (at least she wouldn’t write about that). We also don’t have Michael’s side of the story and we never will.

    If nothing else, this series shows just how subtle all this woman-worship really is.

  17. Frank K says:

    I the exerpt from hI clicked on the link to her book, and found this gem:

    “When out eyes first met, I didn’t feel any sparks. I was disappointed, to say the least.”

    In other words, he didn’t give her the tingles. And she figured that out the first time their eyes met.

    I have heard it said that a woman will decide within moments of meeting you if she’ll sleep with you. I don’t know about that, as I never tried to bed a woman I had casually met. Of course, since I’ve only ever slept with my wife makes me a weirdo and a loser in today’s culture; but I digress. What I do know is that women I met while still single made up their minds within a minute if they were interested in me at all. Of course, as an average man you get used to being rejected, but for our heroine it must have been soul crushing when this man who didn’t give her the tingles (and he probably figured it out) told her that it was nice knowing her and moved on. How dare he?

  18. Per Desteen says:

    Original sin has always been the violation of the first commandment. From Eve onward, women desire to be as a god, with no one in charge of her. After all, who could possibly be worthy of marrying a goddess besides another god? God is her BFF and matchmaker after all. Surely he’ll provide that introduction to another of the many gods out there?

    God really understood how best to lay down the consequences for women. I almost wonder if their Hamstering ability is a survival trait to avoid reconciling the contradiction between desiring to be as god and desiring to be ruled over by a man?

  19. thedeti says:

    Oh they can get that, too — just not from the guys they *want* to commit to them. Most end up settling for one of the beta bucks who is lined up outside their door 24/7. The holdouts end up like Wendy here, but that’s because she doesn’t want the men who would be willing to commit to her — there are likely thousands who would be willing.

    Yes. Wendy Griffith could be married tomorrow if she wanted to be. She could have been married 25 years ago if she had wanted to be. And I think Nova’s correct, which is what spawned the last post . She isn’t really serious about getting married. Because, as another poster used to say around here: You know what women who want to get married do? They get married. They get serious about finding marriage minded men they are attracted to, and they attract and marry them.

    A woman who wants to marry, marries.

  20. Boxer says:

    Anon sez:

    For everyone claiming she is that pretty, I am not sure. She has some elements much better than other women her age, but her face is somewhat troubling. She has the look of a cold, calculated extractor. No human warmth at all.

    I’ve been sitting here, silently, for days, thinking the same thing. Furthermore, I’ve never been able to find an unretouched or un made-up image of her.

    Objectively we can say she looks better than most women her age, in her professional photos and interviews, where she has teams of artists to enhance her. What she looks like when it all comes off? Who knows…

  21. thedeti says:

    Boxer, Anon:

    She is pretty, objectively, with the makeup.

    What differentiates her from most other women is how well preserved she is at 53. At 53 she is easily top 5 to 10% . Easily. She hammers her age-appropriate competition into the ground. She is easily the most attractive woman in her age group almost everywhere she goes.

    She’s also top 20 to 30% in physical attractiveness for all women, really. She ticks off the boxes – pretty face, long hair, big eyes, hourglass shape, slender and keeps herself in shape. (And she wears form fitting, form-flattering dresses that show plenty of shape and leg on the CBN set. Clearly, this establishes that even on the religious shows, “f***ability” is paramount — Terry Meeuwsen and Susan Howard, e.g.).

    What also differentiates her is her apparent inability or unwillingness to attract and keep a man. It’s not her physical attractiveness. There must be something else going on, and that’s what we’re all applying all the Red Pill knowledge we have to suss out.

  22. earlthomas786 says:

    Of course, as an average man you get used to being rejected, but for our heroine it must have been soul crushing when this man who didn’t give her the tingles (and he probably figured it out) told her that it was nice knowing her and moved on. How dare he?

    Perhaps it’s because I think like a man and have that nasty logic going on…I never thought that what my ‘liitle head’ decided was the be all and end all if a woman was worth pursuing or not. I did take into account things like her behavior, her merits, her family, her morals, etc along with physical beauty and a healthy looking body. If women truly do base everything on ‘sparks’ or not…well we’ve seen what happens when they decide the sparks have gone out.

  23. thedeti says:

    And let’s all be clear about something here – the reason Wendy Griffith has had a decent career in secular television journalism and now on CBN, is because of her looks. She has always been hot and she still is hot. Men like looking at her. Women want to look like her. Her looks give her instant credibility with women looking to get married and believing they’re the “prize to be won” and the “pearl of great price”.

  24. earlthomas786 says:

    Along with that it proves even more why her father or male guardian should be making more of the decision making with who marries her. Focusing on sparks only doesn’t keep a relationship or marriage going.

  25. feministhater says:

    Wendy has burned through so much social capital all by herself and still expects the very best as if she were a fresh 18 year old virgin saving herself for a husband to whom she will submit in all things. She is none of that but yet more social capital should be spent on her…

  26. earlthomas786 says:

    A woman who wants to marry, marries.

    Yup, funny how that works.

  27. anonymous_ng says:

    I see with Griffith the same dynamic I see with my ex. The ex is reasonably attractive for her age(slightly younger than Griffith), but if I know her and ran into her in public, I’d never give her a second glance. Griffith is the same way. I’d look right through her.

    In fact, I’ve started seeing the look Anon and Boxer are talking about on women in their middle-thirties. They are attractive, but in the sense that their looks would be a real blessing to their husband of ten years, but out in the same marketplace as a bunch of women in their mid-twenties, I’d never give a one of them a second look.

  28. earlthomas786 says:

    I’ve known of three good friends of mine who are married because SHE really wanted to. I don’t think they were nagging them or demanding them into it…but they made it CLEAR they wanted to be married.

  29. anonymous_ng says:

    That should be that if I didn’t know the ex, and ran into her in public.

  30. AnonS says:

    Any try a ctrl+f on her books to see how many times the word “children” appear? All she, and her fan base, talk about is husband, husband, husband nothing of children. Maybe because doing so would be facing a biological reality instead of the fantasy that men can always be blamed.

  31. anonymous_ng says:

    Rejection teaches you that your worth as a person is not dependent upon the opinion of some random woman that hit your attraction triggers.

    Women are neurotically insecure because they don’t learn that lesson.

  32. thedeti says:

    Anon ng:

    Yeah. I mean, as physically attractive as she is at 53, she was much more attractive at 33 and hotter than a thousand suns at 23.

    If she wanted to get married, if she had been serious about it, that job could have gotten done a couple of decades ago, no problem.

  33. Damn Crackers says:

    Give Wendy a break. If I were 75, I’d buy her that 3rd meal.

  34. earlthomas786 says:

    Rejection teaches you that your worth as a person is not dependent upon the opinion of some random woman that hit your attraction triggers.

    Women are neurotically insecure because they don’t learn that lesson.

    It’s probably the bane of being more emotional and taking things more personally.

  35. getalonghome says:

    What I don’t get is why a woman who is past childbearing age thinks the man ought to be buying her dinner, dessert, or even drinks. At her age, she’s not going to be bearing his children, so why would he need to signal willingness to provide? She should be going halfsies or buying his drinks at least some of the time to show that she’s prepared for the companionate marriage of any older couple that has already been married for 25 years. As I age, and our children grow up, I imagine the things I do on my end of the bargain will change as well: i.e., I will begin to be the woman who considers a field and buys it to plant a vineyard, so i can continue to be a worthy helper to my husband.

    The ship done sailed for her to do any man the good of providing and raising offspring. It’s time to audition for a different role, if she wants to be a good wife for what’s left of his days. Being unwilling to do this, or even imagine why she should, she is emotionally unfit for even a companionate marriage, and wholly unfit to tell other women how to obtain it.

    I strongly suspect she’s really trying to sabotage as many women as possible so she won’t be so conspicuously unmarried in a crowd of women who “settled” for what she is still unable to pull off.

    With all that said, I’d better put this phone down and get back to raising my own kids, so i hope I didn’t make too many typos or day anything completely stupid. Definitely no time to correct myself!

  36. Novaseeker says:

    Yeah. I mean, as physically attractive as she is at 53, she was much more attractive at 33 and hotter than a thousand suns at 23.

    Yep. As I made clear in my first post, she isn’t nearly as attractive as an attractive 25yo — that’s obvious. But that isn’t her market, either. I mean I know it’s the sphere and all the older single guys here in their 50s and 60s only date women who are 25 (of course!), but for the broader market that isn’t the case, so she isn’t in that market, in terms of the broader market. When you compare her to the women in her age range she’s at the top, that’s the point. She doesn’t beat out a hot 25yo, you’d have to be a moron to think that.

  37. Frank K says:

    I’ve known of three good friends of mine who are married because SHE really wanted to. I don’t think they were nagging them or demanding them into it…but they made it CLEAR they wanted to be married.

    I had a girlfriend like that once. She made it very clear that she wanted to get married … ASAP. I was a college freshman. I liked her and told her to be patient, as I still had to finish school first. She would have none of that and I heard through the grapevine that she was seeing someone behind my back. When I confronted her she was evasive at first and then finally said: “Well, if you’re going to make me wait …”. I broke up with her on the spot and wished her well with the other guy. She turned on the waterworks and apologized, saying that there was nothing serious between them.

    I did not take her back and broke off all contact with her. Had she not pulled off that stunt, I might have married her a few years later. But yeah, she wanted to be married.

  38. Anonymous Reader says:

    I think Michael was really just conflicted about her because of all the reasons given in this series of posts – her age, her inability to have kids, her spotty relationship history.

    Or he was interviewing a prospective wife while she was interviewing a fashion accessor.

  39. Frank K says:

    she isn’t in that market, in terms of the broader market. When you compare her to the women in her age range she’s at the top, that’s the point.

    But as many have pointed out, how many handsome, rich, successful older, never married men with no kids are going to settle for her? None.

  40. Dalrock says:

    @Deti

    (Quote Griffith):

    All I knew was that fear had seized every part of my being. As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault. The enemy of my soul had ruthlessly pushed the “rejection button”, and my life would never be the same.

    Maybe I’m missing it but I don’t see how this is “lacking faith in her own awesomeness”. I do get that from reading on in the book sample in the link – she works hard to make Michael love her, she takes him to her favorite places, she takes him to meet her family in Pittsburgh, she mentions him on the air, she takes him to CBN functions etc. She’s showing her “awesomeness” and it’s not working.

    See the bolded part in the original quote above. Michael told her one night that he didn’t think she was marriage material because she was so cold and bitchy while he was knocking himself out to woo her. That night, she had a dream that he was breaking up with her. She tells us that in a moment of weakness (and this is really crazy!) she thought that she had screwed up her best chance to marry in decades.

    But again, the point of the book is that she was wrong to blame herself. She was settling for crumbs from this man, when if he were really the man God had for her, he would never have rejected her as he did that night five months into their relationship. She is the prize to be won. A pearl of great price!

    [D: I’ve edited the OP to bold the same sentence.]

  41. earlthomas786 says:

    She would have none of that and I heard through the grapevine that she was seeing someone behind my back. When I confronted her she was evasive at first and then finally said: “Well, if you’re going to make me wait …”

    I don’t know to me that doesn’t sound like a marriage minded woman to me. She desired marriage…but if she really wanted to she would of broke up with you to find another man instead of stringing you and another guy along. That’s not a good look.

  42. anonymous_ng says:

    @Nova, looks versus age is an exponential curve. For every Elle McPherson/Christy Brinkley, who are still semi-attractive at 60, there were hundreds of thousands who were as attractive at 20.

    Then, this one speaks to the power of a really good makeup artist, and that she aged well, not that she was amazingly attractive at 20, at least using her daughter as a proxy.

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/02/07/christie-brinkley-returns-to-si-swimsuit-issue-at-age-63/

  43. Novaseeker says:

    But as many have pointed out, how many handsome, rich, successful older, never married men with no kids are going to settle for her? None.

    I agree, as I also pointed out myself before anyone else did, Frank. That, however, doesn’t impact her own physical attractiveness — it doesn’t rate her down. It means there is no man good enough for her who wants her — which is true.

  44. earlthomas786 says:

    But as many have pointed out, how many handsome, rich, successful older, never married men with no kids are going to settle for her? None.

    Of course it’s none. If you actually listen to what they say (which is something the delusional women don’t seem to do)…they are either looking for younger women or not looking to get married.

  45. Anonymous Reader says:

    All I knew was that fear had seized every part of my being. As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault.

    For a moment she had the feeling that she was responsible for the results of her own actions.

    But she quickly got over that and still has a career as an almost-but-not-quite married churchgoing woman.

  46. Opus says:

    Media women are not pearls of great price; I know because i once dated one (looked far better on television than in real life) – talk about Rabbit! Never stopped as she regurgitated without understanding everything she had learned at College. She did marry – a photographer who came to the rescue of this fragile reporter when she was knocked over by toxic males during a strike. That is the sort of message from God that Wendy needs and an orchestra (as they do on the television and in slow motion) playing that tune from Tchaik’s Romeo and Juliet would make the point even clearer.

  47. Dalrock says:

    @Frank K

    But as many have pointed out, how many handsome, rich, successful older, never married men with no kids are going to settle for her? None.

    I disagree. She had one on the line, but was cold to him because she thought she could do better. She probably has several more right now either actively wooing her, or begging for the privilege. Her problem isn’t a lack of attention from worthy men. Her problem is that no man who is interested in her will ever be worthy in her eyes. And the more worthy men she rejects, the higher her standards become in an effort to rationalize sunk costs.

  48. Anonymous Reader says:

    The one that got away complained she’d been cold to him while he was wooing her:

    Perhaps he was right. I had been a bit heavily focused on work,

    Part of “be your own beta”: being married to your job / career.
    Question: if this woman actually married a man who told her “quit TV and lectures so you can be my wife 24 / 7” would she do it?

    but truth be told, that had been months before, when I still hadn’t been too sure about us.

    A lot of women see time differently than men, and don’t get that whole “cause and effect” notion.

    Past performance may not indicate future results in trading or investing, but past behavior is very often an indicator of future behavior when it come to women. He was likely wondering if she’d act that way after marriage, if she’d be more “married” to her job / career than to him. A very legitimate concern.

    Men want a helpmeet, not a competitor or a roommate or an “equal”. Equalism is part of her problem.

  49. Oscar says:

    @ earlthomas786 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    “If you actually listen to what they say (which is something the delusional women don’t seem to do)…”

    Women don’t listen to what men say. They listen to the hidden meaning behind what men say, which rarely even remotely resembles what men say, and instead matches whatever happens to be in the woman’s head at the time.

    I figured that one out in my 20s. Twenty years later, it still frustrates the hell out of me.

  50. earlthomas786 says:

    Media women are not pearls of great price; I know because i once dated one (looked far better on television than in real life) – talk about Rabbit! Never stopped as she regurgitated without understanding everything she had learned at College.

    I’ve worked with them. They were masters of regurgitation without understanding…that’s what they do for a living.

    One I knew outside of work her entire world was celeb mags, reality television, and romcoms.

  51. Bike bubba says:

    It strikes me that what “Michael” was saying was that he never got a call when she was on the road. Now with due respect to the questions of “what does she look like before the trowel hits her skin?” and “what does she smell like?”, I think the big issue is personal skills and habits. The poor woman knows how to interact on a business level, but not a personal level. Maybe…she needs to read something like “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands” by Dr. Laura Schlessinger to up her game.

    Agreed with those who noted that a single woman in her fifties is really an odd choice to write a book telling ladies how to find and keep a husband, too.

  52. earlthomas786 says:

    They listen to the hidden meaning behind what men say, which rarely even remotely resembles what men say, and instead matches whatever happens to be in the woman’s head at the time.

    True.

    Reminds me of a Billy Cosby joke… “Women don’t want to hear what you think. Women want to hear what they think – in a deeper voice.”

  53. Embracing Reality says:

    I’ve been where Michael was several times, in fact I’m not to far from it now. Dating an attractive, interesting woman out of town that I’m not sure of. I’m 47, Michael and Wendy were about that age at the time. I’ve dated attractive women my age, I only date significantly younger women now. I’ve dated wealthy women, wealthier than myself on occasion. I could give Wendy some insight about why Michael dated her but had doubts and didn’t conclude she was “the one”.

    Dating can be enjoyable even without sex. Leisure travel is fun, adventure, new city. It’s all cool if you can afford it. If this woman was dating this guy for very long you can bet he also has wealth. He’s single, no kids, little debt. He probably also had frequent flyer miles, deals on hotels. He’s likely taking home 6 figures a year and when he’s not dating he’s not doing much but working and building wealth. So he blows a grand at most on a weekend once or twice a month? So what? What else is he going to do with it? Maybe he makes a brief business stop for a paper trail and then writes it all off, tax deductible. See how it works? Spend some money, have a nice time. You can’t take it with you. Maybe I can see my way to marry this lady, I don’t know…

    He had some doubts all along. So did she for awhile. Like most of us here he is probably suspicious of women and marriage in general. Meanwhile they’re having a nice time. I differ from Michael in that I don’t experience poor treatment from women more than once and usually not at all. He did that to himself. Women are intuitive, always testing. They figure out early if a man will put up with it or not. Meanwhile men just sit back and watch, and see, and think. For her though, as time passed, she became emotionally attached. Michael did too probably, I usually do. Logic and reason however are in charge of my decision. Not my unlocked heart… Michael was likely the same.

    Once her heart was “unlocked” she started her damn pressuring. I’ve lived through that several times now, learned to watch for it hopefully. Looking over the edge he was going to have to make a decision. He’s causing her pain and she was telling him about it, almost daily. Crying, blowing up his email, phone, ear drums, hell… He told her it was the poor treatment she gave him apparently. that was an excuse and a little punishment too. He did resent it but I doubt it was the primary reason he walked. Her age was killing him because he knows he can date 10 years younger. He’s afraid of what she will become if he marries her. He’s afraid of marriage in general, he should be. He just can’t… sorry I just can’t… The fun ride is over now, time for the pain. Her pain mostly but she’ll try to make him feel guilty. Hell, she wrote a book about him!

    It’s all a big stinking mess, relationships, marriage in this country, marriage in the church. Like Michael I have a lot of questions. I don’t have a lot of answers. I should probably give up on dating, yet I continue.

  54. 7817 says:

    OT: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2017/december-web-only/evangelicals-domestic-violence-christian-men-domestic-abuse.html?visit_source=twitter

    Quote from the article:

    “Domestic violence is still present in church-going homes, and Christian clergy, counselors, and lay leaders need to do a much better job of articulating clear, powerful messages about abuse and, more generally, married life. Although, as noted before, the church is not necessarily enabling abuse, some local churches, clergy, and counselors fail to address abuse head-on for fear of breaking up a marriage. Others steer clear of addressing the topic from the pulpit or in adult education for fear of broaching an uncomfortable subject. This silence around domestic violence has to end.”

  55. “How could he not see me as the One?”

    This statement alone should disqualify her from ever being marriageable. She worships at the alter of her own solipsism.

  56. Frank K says:

    I disagree. She had one on the line, but was cold to him because she thought she could do better.

    I believe she was in her early 40’s then. Plus as you said, he wasn’t good enough, so she really wasn’t finding the kind of guy she wanted. Now that she’s in her late 50’s it will only be harder,

  57. earlthomas786 says:

    It does appear the fault of Michael was that he didn’t worship her as much as she worships her.

  58. Major Styles says:

    Is it wrong to feel joy when these people crash?

  59. Anonymous Reader says:

    @7817

    That’s just the Female Imperative working to drag the Duluth protocol into churches. without even reading the linked article I predict there is a bait / switch or motte/bailey game surrounding the term “abuse”. A man raising his voice to a contentious wife yelling at him is equated with broken bones, for example.

    Expect more of this. There’s a little cottage industry of churchlady bloggers who are endlessly witch-sniffing out “abuse” and “abusers”. There are also White Knight churchmen who are happy to go along.

  60. Oscar says:

    @ earlthomas786 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    “Reminds me of a Billy Cosby joke… ‘Women don’t want to hear what you think. Women want to hear what they think – in a deeper voice’.”

    Ha! I’d never heard that one, but it’s on the money!

  61. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Here’s what appears to be a candid photo of Wendy, without the benefit of professional lighting: http://www.pnj.com/picture-gallery/news/2017/05/27/family-beach-fest-at-pensacola-beach/102244634/

    You have to scroll through the photos to get to hers. Her photo is dated May 27, 2017.

  62. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    thedeti: as physically attractive as she is at 53, she was much more attractive at 33 and hotter than a thousand suns at 23.

    Hotter than a thousand suns? Not for me.

    She’s pretty, but bland. She was probably pretty but bland at 23. She lacks charisma (aka star power). That special kind of personal magnetism that separates the True Stars from the merely talented actors.

  63. earlthomas786 says:

    You have to scroll through the photos to get to hers. Her photo is dated May 27, 2017.

    Looks like a 53 year old woman.

    If she had married at 23 her husband would still have the googles. The rest of us see her as a 53 year old woman.

  64. thedeti says:

    Red Pill Latecomer:

    Yeah, there’s no accounting for taste. The point of my posts is that when she was 23, even 33, that would have been the better time for her to get serious about marriage and get married, because she was much more attractive then.

    As is the case with most women. Most women start losing their looks around age 30 to 35. So by the time she’s 35 it’s way late to start looking for attractive men for marriage. Wendy Griffith could have easily found a high value attractive man at 23 or even 33 to marry. But that would have required, oh, you know, compromise, and a bit of settling, and a decision to choose one and only one man, and stick with him come hell or high water, for better for worse till death do you part.

    Most women don’t get really serious about that until they’re mid to late 20s at the earliest. And by 35 it’s too late. By 53 it’s really too late.

  65. Hugh Mann says:

    I think maybe it’s time to lay off the lady aka “cease and desist”. We all make mistakes in life, and very few of us can parlay our mistakes into seven million dollars, so fair play to her. Despite the long odds, I hope she finds happiness – after all, some men don’t want kids.

    It would be a sad world if we all got what we deserved, and foolishness isn’t malice.

  66. Otto says:

    ” she works hard to make Michael love her, she takes him to her favorite places, she takes him to meet her family in Pittsburgh, she mentions him on the air, she takes him to CBN functions etc. She’s showing her “awesomeness” and it’s not working.”

    How is this different than the feminist meme of catching a man by showing off your college degree and high paying job.

    Taking him to her favorite places = look at the lavish lifestyle I am used to living, and you can be part of it (and of course pay forf it)

    CBN functions = I have a fancy job at a big company.

    Mentioning him on the air = I’m a celebrity and you can bath in my spotlight.

    Men don’t care about any of that. Some is actually a negative to men.

  67. feeriker says:

    As irrational as it may sound, I felt as if the circumstances were all my fault.

    That, gentlemen, is the closest that ANY woman will EVER come to accountability or introspection.

  68. I think the positive to get all of this is to see who gives her interviews on her book tours. Who is in her cheering camp. Who isn’t condemning her lifestyle and her influence. Those are the enemies of the Cross. Treat accordingly.

  69. BillyS says:

    I think maybe it’s time to lay off the lady aka “cease and desist”. We all make mistakes in life, and very few of us can parlay our mistakes into seven million dollars, so fair play to her. Despite the long odds, I hope she finds happiness – after all, some men don’t want kids.

    The problem is that she is actively misleading young women. I will not devote my life to correct her “teaching,” but being silent for an idiotic reason is why we are in this mess. She is speaking foolishness. Still waiting at 53 for the right husband means she never had a proper Biblical wife role as a priority in her life. She should be opposed more than she is.

  70. I’ve been sitting here, silently, for days, thinking the same thing. Furthermore, I’ve never been able to find an unretouched or un made-up image of her.

    Anybody here have a functioning version of MakeApp? Now I’m curious.

  71. Novaseeker says:

    It would be a sad world if we all got what we deserved, and foolishness isn’t malice.

    What she writes in her book is malicious, though, toward both men and women. It’s distorted advice that will lead to misery for many others through her influence.

  72. feministhater says:

    I think maybe it’s time to lay off the lady aka “cease and desist”. We all make mistakes in life, and very few of us can parlay our mistakes into seven million dollars, so fair play to her. Despite the long odds, I hope she finds happiness – after all, some men don’t want kids.

    It would be a sad world if we all got what we deserved, and foolishness isn’t malice.

    How about a nice, greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray..

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  74. JDG says:

    That said, she is still 53…..and should be seeking partners older than herself.

    Not in a sane world.

    In a sane world a typical 53 year old woman would not be single. She would instead be helping with her grand children and advising younger women as instructed in Titus 2:3-5.

    Even in a not so sane world a still single 53 year old woman would know that the time for starting a marriage is well behind her, and she would put her time and energy where it will actually do some good.

    That would require that she think about others before herself though.

  75. JDG says:

    Still waiting at 53 for the right husband means she never had a proper Biblical wife role as a priority in her life. She should be opposed more than she is.

    Yep, but instead crickets, or worse … agreement.

  76. Mark says:

    Actually I pity woman. It’s instinctively not natural for them to marry down because they were created to play support role to an Adam. Thus, we should not criticise them when they don’t marry down. It’s hard for them just like it is unnatural for them to take the lead. These are not biblical roles in as much as it is now in the 21 century with temptation pulling and tempting every woman with pride, ego, arrogance, power and wealth. Same temptation for men also tempts woman.

  77. Embracing Reality says:

    I pity this woman less than the women she’s misleading with her woman worshipping nonsense. There are younger women who will end up passing up their best chances to marry well because of her stupid book and false teaching. Then there’s the older women who need to except the truth, marriage is unlikely because of their past bad choices. Deluding themselves with false hope only causes greater pain later. Like much of the church this woman is harming people with this garbage.

  78. Dave says:

    Give Wendy a break. If I were 75, I’d buy her that 3rd meal.

    And what made you think she’d want to accept that 3rd meal from an old, wrinkled 75-year-old man? As has been said, Wendy is looking for hot, wealthy, educated, and preferably well traveled men who are at least 10 years younger than herself. These men must be willing to spend lavishly on her, and invest a lot of time on her, while she treats them like crap, because she is a “pearl of great price”, a prize to be won.

  79. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    she is a “pearl of great price”, a prize to be won.

    A misstatement. In the normal world, once you win a prize, it’s yours. You win an Oscar, a Nobel, a Pulitzer, it’s yours to keep.

    With modern American women, you never “win” the prize. She might agree to marry you, but she will frivorce you at will. She is a “prize” that can always be withdrawn. You must “win” her anew every day, sometimes every hour, with every shit test.

    Hence, “winning” a prize like Wendy requires more effort than winning a Nobel. And whereas a Nobel comes with a big cash payout, the Wendy Prize only drains a man’s s resources the longer he manages to hold onto it.

  80. Dalrock says:

    @Bike Bubba

    It strikes me that what “Michael” was saying was that he never got a call when she was on the road.

    I think you are reading it too literally. When he said she was “cold and distant” on the road, he didn’t mean she was shivering in Boston. He meant that when they spoke, she had a bitchy dismissive attitude. She confirms this with her excuse. Of course she treated him with contempt; she didn’t have the tingles for him yet. Griffith has gone to a great deal of effort to convince us that she sees herself as far above the men who court her. I don’t see why we shouldn’t take her at her word here.

  81. Embracing Reality says:

    Arrogance is Wendy’s primary problem in my opinion. Life is now humbling her so she’s doubling down on her mission to inflate herself publicly. I seriously doubt she has the well being of any other women, it’s still all about her. She must know she passed on the chance to marry. She knows her Appeal as a wife to an appealing man is gone. I expect she also knows she’s misleading other women with her deception. This woman is full of herself.

  82. Swanny River says:

    Do her books say what the man wins if he gets her? From her job and net worth, it seems like his job would be full-time servant leader, serving her career, her needs. How does someone like her successfully become a helpmeet? I don’t have enough imagination to see it as possible. She has what she wants, and the sin she needs to repent of is greed, because she still wants more.

  83. Original Laura says:

    When I was a teenager, people often spoke of the need for people to get married before they “got set in their ways.” Is this concept long gone? A lot of pretty women with media jobs walk away from it all when they get an offer from Mr. Right. Wendy had multiple chances to land the kind of husband she says she wants, but she is a career woman!

    I think she looks great for 53, but what if she came across a very good looking Christian widower her own age with young-adult children? Would she consider that to be settling? Would she be willing to include all of his kids and grandkids at Christmas and Thanksgiving and Easter and keep track of all their birthdays and school events? Wendy lives in a fantasy world. If she had wanted children, she would have married. She never really wanted a husband or children.

  84. Oscar says:

    @ Original Laura says:
    December 13, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    “When I was a teenager, people often spoke of the need for people to get married before they ‘got set in their ways’. Is this concept long gone?”

    I was 28 when I married in 2004, and I was already worried about getting too set in my ways. At 53, Ms Wendy’s ways probably have the flexibility of tungsten carbide.

  85. c matt says:

    Maybe I am too cynical, but she seems to be simply using dating as material for her business. What would happen to her target audience if she “found” the one, married, and lived happily ever after? Her failed relationships seem to be by design so she can run out and hit the show circuit with her latest “insights” to comfort the Wendy wannabees, confirm them in their own “it’s them, not you” delusion, and hock her latest book about same.

  86. Kevin says:

    So if they were not Christian she would have basically only been good for a booty call to Michael.

    Someone else she is worth 7 million. Like the girl who is a pro athlete sprinter and Christian they are both doomed. Mary young. If you wait until your peak the market is too small for a rich professional women. At least a woman doctor can marry a doc or lawyer. This woman has no options of men who cannot find someone much younger. Sad for her.

  87. PokeSalad says:

    And what made you think she’d want to accept that 3rd meal from an old, wrinkled 75-year-old man?

    Sarcasm, Dave…..sarcasm…..

  88. feeriker says:

    How does someone like her successfully become a helpmeet?

    “Helpmeet?!” Perish the thought! The very idea is demeaning and abusive to a pearl-to-be-won like Wendy.

    No, any man she deigns to marry will become HER helpmeet (God got the sex roles mixed up; just ask Wendy the christofeminist!). Of course she’ll soon despise him for being her kitchen bitch (and eventually divorce him), but it’s all about the feeeeeeelz of the moment anyway.

    Wendy is doing Christian men one very valuable service: she’s weeding out (i.e., eliminating) as potential wives any women gullible and stupid enough to read her book and follow her advice.

  89. TBeholder says:

    Oh dear. It’s a self sacrifice to the cause of narcissism.

    > she’s weeding out (i.e., eliminating) as potential wives any women gullible and stupid enough to read her book and follow her advice.
    A concept that must be applied wider.
    There’s no point to try and stop self-destructive lunacy. Only to prevent dragging others in by coercion.
    And then – the worse, the better.

  90. earl says:

    How does someone like her successfully become a helpmeet?

    Go back 30-40 years and unlearn everything she’s ever learned.

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