It must be exhausting.

A few weeks back Vox Day quoted the lyrics of “Let It Go”, the hit song from the Disney movie Frozen.  I hadn’t heard the song before but I knew it was extremely popular, especially with women and girls.  Not surprisingly, the message of the song is our standard message to women and girls.  The only way women can sin is to deny themselves what they desire*.  The song teaches girls and women to stop trying to be the good girl, and embrace a philosophy of No right, no wrong, no rules for me:

Don’t let them in,
don’t let them see
Be the good girl you always have to be
Conceal, don’t feel,
don’t let them know
Well now they know

And the fears that once controlled me
Can’t get to me at all
It’s time to see what I can do
To test the limits and break through
No right, no wrong, no rules for me,
I’m free!

As I noted, this is the message our culture is endlessly telling women and girls, and for obvious reasons it is a message women and girls can’t get enough of**.  What strikes me about all of this is how curious this will be to future historians trying to understand how our culture became so rapidly debased.  That progressive elites owned the commanding heights will be quite easy for future historians to observe, as songs like Let it go, aimed directly at young girls, will make clear.

What will no doubt puzzle future historians processing the mountain of digital data from our period is where were conservative Christians while all of this was happening?  It isn’t just that Christians are passively silent on the very overt feminist rebellion all around us.  Modern Christians are so afraid of confronting the rebellion that they aren’t merely silent, they are in active denial that any rebellion is taking place. When future historians look for the conservative Christian reaction to feminists putting women in all parts of our armed forces, something feminists achieved after working tirelessly for decades, they will find that conservative Christians were so terrified of confronting the feminist rebellion that they pretended that cowardly men were forcing noble kick-ass gals to fight in their place.

Likewise, future historians will see that conservative Christians like Pastor Chandler responded to the constant feminist agitation in the culture by assuring men that the agitation will have no impact on their wives and daughters, so long as the men are nice enough, and tired enough:

If the most secularized feminist in the world showed up in your home and began to kind of coach your wife toward freedom and liberation from your tyranny, our wives should be so well cared for, so nourished, so sowed into and loved, they would say, “What you’re describing is actually tyranny. I love where I am. I am honored. I am encouraged. My man sacrifices so that I might grow in my gifts. He will oftentimes lay down his own desires in order to serve me more. My husband goes to bed tired at night. He pours into our children. He encourages me. All that comes out of his mouth, sans a couple of little times here and there, is him building me up in love.

This level of denial takes constant effort, and it only gets harder as the denial becomes more and more absurd.  Moreover, it has to be demoralizing to know that one day historians will struggle to determine if their earnest denial of the feminist rebellion at the very height of the rebellion was merely satire.  I can only imagine how completely exhausted all of this denial leaves our conservative Christian leaders at the end of the day.  And yet, each day they manage to get up and do it all over again.

The alternative is simply too terrifying.

*Or alternately, to not have high enough self esteem, which in turn causes them to sin by denying themselves what they desire.

**The song has also been called an LGBT anthem.

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104 Responses to It must be exhausting.

  1. Mark says:

    Nice post Mister “D”.The feminazis will never be happy until they have obliterated relationships between men and women…..or they grow a penis first.

    “Women are nothing more than baby producing machines”……….Napoleon Bonaparte.

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  3. Frank K says:

    It just goes to show what can be accomplished with a catchy tune,

    I expect more “you go girl” flicks like this will come out of Disney, and that the few which will still have a male main character will be ones with minority males, such as in the upcoming “Coco”.

    Another thing I have noticed in children’s animation is that studios are releasing cartoons aimed solely at girls. One that stands out in my mind is “DC Superhero Girls” which chronicles a high school that trains teen superheros. What is especially insulting about those shorts is that fact that there are boys in the high school (Cyborg, The Flash, Beast Boy and others) who portray minor roles. Imagine there was a show titled “DC Super Hero Boys” in which there were also super hero girls who didn’t do much. I can hear the howls of protest.

    Disney is also at it with some “you go girl” Star Wars shorts titled “Forces of Destiny.” In one episode, a minor female character makes Han Solo look like a fool.

    I can’t begin to imagine what a young boy is to make of these shows, other than to think that Star Wars and Superheros are girl things.

  4. earlthomas786 says:

    Eve by all accounts had everything perfect and she still listened and eventually rebelled. What makes the pastor think a husband can appease the rebellious nature out of her?

  5. The Question says:

    “I can only imagine how completely exhausted all of this denial leaves our conservative Christian leaders at the end of the day. And yet, each day they manage to get up and do it all over again. The alternative is simply too terrifying.”

    The last sentence explains much of the peculiar behavior among tradcons, socons, and mainstream Conservatism Inc. The left escalates on all fronts, and every time conservatives adopt a false containment policy by putting up a small rear-guard action to disguise the retreat, and leftist vanguards such as feminism make another inroad on some social issue. Repeat until you’ve moved from the Sexual Revolution over to what we have today.

    Conservatives do this rather than fight on the offensive because they know they’ll have to go all the way until somebody loses,; most likely, it would lead to violence, and they’re afraid of what it might cost them.

    And why do that, when you can instead enjoy all the fruits and benefits of the system created by your forefathers, while having the “honor” of slowing down its degradation and eventual obliteration? And best yet, you can place all the blame for that n the upcoming generation as you wash your hands of all culpability in a supreme act of denialism.

    The situation reminds me of a 1860 political cartoon of President James Buchanan begging the South not to secede until he is out of office and thus doesn’t have to make a decision either way whether to “accept” their departure or take military action.

    Conservatives are begging the next generation not to rock the boat socially – and ultimately economically – until they’ve collected their social security checks and cashed out their 401ks. That requires them maintaining denial about how bad the circumstances are within institutions such as marriage, because if they admitted it, that would require they also admitting that they have failed to do their job in preserving these institutions.

    Good times create weak men, indeed.

  6. Jonadab-the-Rechabite says:

    Historians will note that not only did the church not oppose overt feminist rebellion, it busied itself giving aid and comfort. Not only did the church did oppose the contortion of God’s design, it instead made biblical-patriarchy the enemy and tried to replace it with an anti-masculine, subservient fettering of males. History will record that male sexuality was equivalent to sin and evil, but female sexuality was the greatest virtue of all; a pearl of great price. Further the happy female was the holy grail of relationships and the docile man was the hallmark of sanctification.

    Father forgive them, they know not what they do!

  7. It think it must also be exhausting to “feel so ridiculously empowered”:

    http://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/let-it-go-analysis/

    “Let’s start with the opening

    The opening of the song is at the bottom of singer Idina Menzel’s two-octave range, scooping down to an F3. The lyrics are mournful, and lead us to believe that this will be a ballad about loneliness and regret.
    What about the key signature?

    Although the main body of the song is in A flat major, the first verse begins in the relative minor of F. Elsa is sad and alone, feeling tormented by her ‘swirling storm inside’.
    ‘Don’t let them in, don’t let them see’

    The pitch rises and the lyrics become more determined in the second verse. Elsa doesn’t care about pleasing everyone anymore, she just wants to be herself, icicles and all. “Well now they know!” she cries on a long, triumphant A flat – her highest note in the song so far.

    THE GLOVE COMES OFF!
    “LET IT GOOO!” And we’re in. The A flat major key takes over, Elsa starts shooting icicles from her hands and for the first time in the song, she smiles.

    The melody rises alongside her confidence, and we’re right there with Elsa on her journey.

    Sure, she’s rejecting her whole town – but they practically kicked her out when she set off the eternal winter (which she doesn’t actually know until her sister Anna tells her later in the film). So she probably deserves a moment or two to herself.”

    I agree.
    Perhaps the ladies do deserve a moment or two, or a trillion, to themselves.

  8. dragnet says:

    @ The Question

    Great comment & great handle!

  9. Otto says:

    Disney already screwed up Star Wars by promoting the kick-ass, bad-ass female hero meme.

    80% of the fans are male and only mildly interested (at best) in the adventures of a female hero.

    The 20% of fans who are female fantasize about being PRINCESS Leia (who hooks up with alpha rogue Hans Solo), not with poverty stricken, boyish looking, loneley and loveless fighters Rey and Jyn Erso.

  10. This ground was ceded a long time ago. The Left owns K-12, Higher Ed, Madison Ave, Hollywood, 90% of Entertainment and News media. It will take decades of relentless effort to roll back these gains. Of course nothing will happen as anyone will capable of taking up the fight is actually out there producing.
    As far as marriage goes, the minute the Church allowed the State to stick its foot in the door, it was over:
    http://manningthewall.com/de-construction-marriage/

  11. The Question says:

    @Phil Christensen

    “This ground was ceded a long time ago. The Left owns K-12, Higher Ed, Madison Ave, Hollywood, 90% of Entertainment and News media. It will take decades of relentless effort to roll back these gains.”

    Watching the collapse of Hollywood, instigated by a New York Times article and perpetuated primarily by leftists themselves, I’ve become more optimistic in some sense. We don’t need to beat them. We don’t need to even fight them. We just need to let them destroy themselves. These entities are not stable. They are corrupt and rotting away at the core.

    We may very well see them all collapse like the Soviet Union did.

    In the meantime we don’t subscribe to their cable news or newspapers, watch their channels, pay to see their movies and globohomo musicals, or purchase their DVDs.

  12. bdash 77 says:

    so according to Chandler a man who wants to be a doctor or CEO must sacrifice that and be a house husband to support his wife’s dream to be whatever she wants
    just to keep the feminists happy?

    Am I wrong?

    How is this biblical?

    Why do men still attend his church?

  13. MrHoneyBadger says:

    There will be no “future historians” to look upon and reflect on these things because there will be no critical analysis anymore. The debasement of our culture, as you phrased it, carries with it the demise of century-old tools of thinking and ideas. To put it simply, nobody knows anything anymore. There is nothing passed over from generation to generation. Every new generation reinvents the square wheel, so to put it, because it has nothing to build upon. There are no intelectual inputs anymore, just outputs of the strictly animal self. The culture of critique is over. I guess, we shouldn’t worry about the future then…

  14. Anonymous Reader says:

    I have not yet encountered a single churchgoing person in my social circle who has a problem with “Frozen” the movie or with “Let it go” the song. Not one. That includes a couple of families that are part of leadership. Pointing out the “no rules” part is like describing the color “purple” to someone who is blind. They literally can’t see anything wrong – perhaps because “It’s DISNEY” or something. I’ve gotten blank stares from people over 40 but also parents under 30. It’s bizarre.

    That “one eyed man in the country of the blind” is seriously overrated.

  15. Gunner Q says:

    “What will no doubt puzzle future historians processing the mountain of digital data from our period is where were conservative Christians while all of this was happening?”

    I ask myself this every day. Every church of every denomination, every government of every state is unwilling to even speak up against the feminist tide. Such uniformity is unnatural. The hardest push I’ve seen is “we can’t afford it anymore”, which is true but usually couched in such language as to give the impression that the objector wishes the trend could continue.

    I went to an out-of-state church this weekend that a relative swore was conservative. The weekly bulletin solicited new deaconesses. I red-pilled a greeter speechless then got distracted by a local cult passing out literature in the congregation. The pastor’s wife chased them off while the pastor only watched.

    You can’t make this up. You can’t even parody it.

  16. Anonymous Reader says:

    Frank K
    I expect more “you go girl” flicks like this will come out of Disney, and that the few which will still have a male main character will be ones with minority males, such as in the upcoming “Coco”.

    I expect Disney to start pushing trannies, if they aren’t already doing so, to go along with the soft pro-gayness. I expect the churchgoing people I know won’t be able to see that either.

  17. bdash 77 says:

    another example is Dr MCstuffins

    all my complementarian friends let their kids watch this, and have parties with Dr Mcstuffins themes.

    Dr Mcstuffins is written by a lesbian with a clear goal of eliminating the concept of Gender.
    The father is a house husband and the mother works…

    all the christians watch it

  18. The Question says:

    Now, imagine if a Disney film had a song with lyrics like this:

    And imagine if feminists let their sons watch this film, bought them the soundtrack specifically for this song, and then engaged in total denial about what the lyrics were about, and anyone who did were accused of promoting misandry.

    Ideally that gives you an accurate idea of how absurd mainstream conservatism is today.

  19. Annie says:

    My only defense of “Let it go,” is that, despite my general dislike of pop music, it is actually very well sung. I just ignore the lyrics. However, I highly recommend going on YouTube to watch that scene – mute it if you like. It’s where she creates the ice palace, and it is a beautiful piece of animation.

    I have watched the movie (hey, I like animation, and I’m female – I like princess movies), and was surprised that it included several moments with Kristoff (the main male character) having the upper hand, or reacting very sensibly and quickly to save the day. The one that cracked me up was when they were in the sleigh, starting out. Kristoff is floored when Anna tells him she got engaged to someone she’d just met that day, and then some wolves attack. Anna wants to help, and he tells her no, because he doesn’t trust her judgement.

  20. seventiesjason says:

    This pastor also mentioned once in a sermon that men when they come home from work have to behave like they have a serving towel over their arm ready to serve his wife and children.

    He also mentioned offhand that in his church they “watch” and “stand up to players” who would dare try to corrupt any woman. He also mentioned once that once in a boys locker room, they didn’t put on shirts out of respect.

    It’s a freaking boys locker room!!!

    His defenders make it out as if its a “real guys” type of church. Beer. Football. Jesus.

    No one ever brings up he met his wife when she was a teen and he was significantly older at church camp. They were saintly and holy if course until she became legal age.

    If any guy in his church was 22 or 23 and was flirting with a 16 year old…..they would run that guy outta there

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  22. David says:

    He also mentioned once that once in a boys locker room, they didn’t put on shirts out of respect.

    Wut? I don’t understand…

  23. coloradomtnman says:

    Only men that are married (and being dragged along) or men who are looking for tail attend Chandler’s church. Nice haircut btw Mark! 🙂

  24. earlthomas786 says:

    And the fears that once controlled me
    Can’t get to me at all
    It’s time to see what I can do
    To test the limits and break through
    No right, no wrong, no rules for me,
    I’m free!

    Contrast that with one of my favorite quotes from a saint.

    ‘“Be who God meant you to be and you will set the world on fire.” ― St. Catherine of Siena

  25. Mandy says:

    A song with a wholesome message would simply not see the light of day. If not this song, then some other dreck would take its place.

  26. Jeff Strand says:

    What about the PC train wreck that was Zootopia?

  27. Frank K says:

    I went to an out-of-state church this weekend that a relative swore was conservative. The weekly bulletin solicited new deaconesses.

    I guess there is something to be said for the ancient churches. No deaconesses or priestesses. I guess that’s what the Anglican communion is for. It has the ancient rubrics, but with feminist and even lesbian priestesses and even Bishops, so they can have their cake and eat it too.

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  29. seventiesjason says:

    David. Chandler was telling the congregation one Sunday about the lack of respect men and boys have in general. He said something like “I went into the boys locker room after the game and they couldn’t even put shirts on”

    Referring that he was a “pastor” and these boys had no respect by being properly dressed in front of him.

  30. David says:

    Referring that he was a “pastor” and these boys had no respect by being properly dressed in front of him.

    So he went in there because he could not find something like that outside of that location. He had to go to great lengths just to virtue-signal. What a gamma.

    Sort of how some female sportscasters go into the men’s locker room only to say that they were hit on later and get media sympathy from whiteknights.

  31. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    No right, no wrong, no rules for me,

    This is also the motto of Harvey Weinstein. And that of every rapist.

    Women are so dense. They rebel against all rules and judgements, then demand that heavy rules and judgements be imposed on others — and see no contradiction or hypocrisy in this.

  32. Augustine372@gmail.com says:

    Moana is awful too. “I wish… I could be the perfect daughter…”

    My 5 and 3 year olds have probably sang that 1,000 times already. Literally.

  33. sipcode says:

    Women are who the Devil uses to attack God. The attack is on His authority here on earth, upon men. Simply put, the Illicit Authority is increasingly given women as the Sanctity of Command is stripped from men. Then God can steadily be forgotten about.

    The church is tripping all over itself to create this fictitious authority for women, this worship of women in the pagan position of Queen, all in this blasphemous adulteration of God’s word, the very real denial of Christ. It is no wonder that the Queen mother, the Whore of Babylon, is highlighted so much in John’s Revelation.

    I’ve never heard this addressed, but Genesis 3:15 states that the serpent and Eve made an alliance in the Garden: the word ‘between’ =996H = “bayin’ includes ‘among, common to both, in, in your midst, within. This fits with the next verse, v16, regarding her constant rebellion to her husband and his subsequent need to rule over her, enforce the law.

    This is just ramping up, growing exponentially as we approach the globalization of all this in the end times. It is laughable that anyone in Truth can take this ‘women leading’ shit [that crap God put on the face of the priests] for real.

    You ask: “What shit?” The ‘shitfaced priests’ in Malachi 2:3, drunk on the wine of the Whore of Babylon. “And now, O ye priests …because ye do not lay it to heart …behold, I will …spread shit all over your face” Malachi 2:1-3. Did I mis-translate? …the KJV says “dung upon your faces” (??) No I did not. There is shit on the faces of the priests of God’s church …put there by God Himself, because of the condition of their hearts. See it. Accept it. Understand what is going in the church. The priest [and many others] of God’s church worship women. That is damnation to all.

  34. sipcode says:

    “Behold, thy people in the midst of thee are WOMEN; the gates of thy land shall be set wide open unto thine enemies; the fire shall devour thy bars” Nahum 3:13.

    All have become effeminate, exposing us to our enemies that are destroying us, including destroying all authority. Removing the ‘bars’ means lack of authority shall run rampant. Confrontation of rebellion will cease. God’s law is gone …. “women …open unto thine enemies” is the picture of her legs spread in adultery.

  35. sipcode says:

    There is only one obstacle in the way of the church of Christ, and it requires women returning to their rightful place in marriage.

    There is only one obstacle in the way of marriage…
    There is only one obstacle in the way of authority…
    There is only one obstacle in the way of truth…
    There is only one obstacle in the way of sex…
    There is only one obstacle in the way of righteousness…

    and it requires women returning to their rightful place in marriage.

  36. DrTorch says:

    “I went to an out-of-state church this weekend that a relative swore was conservative.”

    I’m at a “conservative” church that invited a woman to speak at the pulpit this weekend. She was a former politician who now pushes for Christians to do more foster care and adoption. She reminded us that the Bible spends a lot of time telling us to take care of orphans and single mothers.

    What a shock to find out that she was a single mother (haven’t been able to determine whether if it was widowhood or divorce.)

  37. feeriker says:

    and it requires women returning to their rightful place in marriage.

    That they resolutely and angrily refuse to do so demonstrates, in no uncertain terms, that they neither fear nor love God and that they reject His ordained order out of hand. In fact, as I’ve stated often before hereabouts, it even gives one grounds to wonder whether they even believe in a God Omnipotent at all. Given that women as a sex cannot see or think long-term, they cannot fear, respect, or worship a God who does not punish them immediately for their sins. It is the flip side of instant gratification.

  38. Spike says:

    This mindset is alive and well in the conservative church, Dalrock. You’ve been calling it out for years, and while I’ve been aware of your calls, I never had the chance to put it to the test.
    Until now.
    On a church committee, I find that ”patriarchy was institutionalized because of The Fall. The Egalitarian and Complementary model was the norm prior to it. Christ restores us to that model…”
    If you argue, the Strong and Independent Bible Study-Leader, late thirties and unmarried, who is ”under Christ’s authority, not under a man’s…” will leave the room crying. If you challenge the ”accomplishments of the sexual revolution”, angry young women will tell you off in church ”as a response…”
    It isn’t just Elsa. Women have thrown off the constraints and there’s no stopping them.
    Re Disney, I was on a plane and for wont of doing something better decided to try watching ”Brave”. In that cartoon, our brave young anti-patriarchal heroine treats a boy interested in her like complete crap. He is supposed to bear with this as childhood shit-test in order to get to know her. It’s so wrong, since it is telling young boys that, ”In order to get to know a young woman, you should be willing to wade through a pile of waist-deep toxic shit to get to her…” It isn’t cute.

  39. Anon says:

    Dalrock said :

    can only imagine how completely exhausted all of this denial leaves our conservative Christian leaders at the end of the day. And yet, each day they manage to get up and do it all over again.

    Yes. But at least the punishment and energy wastage is being inflicted on those who deserve it.

    A blue-pill penalty eventually allows to natural order to reinstate itself. If cuckservatives and manginas are eventually depleted of their time, energy, and money, then they can vanish into oblivion as they should.

  40. earlthomas786 says:

    They rebel against all rules and judgements, then demand that heavy rules and judgements be imposed on others — and see no contradiction or hypocrisy in this.

    It’s all about emotions…nothing about cause and effect.

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  42. earl says:

    That they resolutely and angrily refuse to do so demonstrates, in no uncertain terms, that they neither fear nor love God and that they reject His ordained order out of hand.

    They are more prone to rebellion from God’s order…and that can lead to intense pride in themselves. That’s why they need strong moral male authority to keep them on the right path…be it God and her father and her husband. Even the best of women will still have this rebel feature in them which is why they have to make a conscious effort to submit.

  43. Jay Karknee says:

    No right, no wrong, no rules for me, I’m free!
    What a load of crap. Women are the most litigious power worshipers out there. I know a guy who is taken back to family court by his disgraceful ex wife every few months. She’s already making noise over her share of his year end bonus coming up. No rules, are you kidding me? Women are all about rules, so long as the rules apply only to men while they can get in touch with their inner whore. It reminds me of Mark Steyn’s aphorism about illegal immigrants: “The growing bifurcation between the undocumented and the over documented”.

  44. earl says:

    Women are all about rules, so long as the rules apply only to men while they can get in touch with their inner whore.

    It’s ok with them for men to be ‘oppressed’ by rules for their benefit….but they can’t have those same rules applied to them otherwise they’d be ‘oppressed’ and claim it’s sexism. FI it is.

    That’s why the whole equality ethos is bull…it’s like animal farm, some are more equal than others.

  45. Adam says:

    She reminded us that the Bible spends a lot of time telling us to take care of … single mothers.

    It does? I must have missed those bits. Repeatedly.

  46. Josh says:

    One thing I’ve noticed about rebellious princesses, or a rebellious queen in this case, is that they always keep their royal status at the end of their stories, despite refusing to act like royalty. I can’t thing of a single story where the rebellious girl doesn’t get to have the best of both worlds.

  47. seventiesjason says:

    Yeah Adam. Conservative and bold preacher Mark Driscoll first stated that. He said “widows and orphans” applies to single mothers “same thing” he said.

    Gotta keep that collection plate FULL.

  48. earl says:

    She reminded us that the Bible spends a lot of time telling us to take care of orphans and single mothers.

    It does? I must have missed those bits. Repeatedly.

    As did I, because it says ‘widows’. There’s a BIG difference between the two.

  49. earl says:

    I can’t thing of a single story where the rebellious girl doesn’t get to have the best of both worlds.

    That’s why it can only happen in fantasy. Reality is ‘you reap what you sow’.

  50. Embracing Reality says:

    I’ve dated so many single women in their late 30’s 40’s and beyond now I’ve had a front row seat. Some of their lives are closer to tragedies than fantasies. The fantasy part is the facade they manufacture for appearances. Nobody having a full, enjoyable life has the time to continuously update it Aron Facebook.. Some of these older single women live truly desperate lives. Some of them cry every single day. The part that’s sad, that some of them, not most, are genuinely repentant but are still paying the consequences of their bad choices. The part that’s worse than that, many are completely unrepentant and get away with their foolish, sinful past because some idiot beta mangina marries them up and gives them everything. It’s the enablers that keep this garbage train rolling.

  51. earl says:

    Nobody having a full, enjoyable life has the time to continuously update it Aron Facebook.. Some of these older single women live truly desperate lives. Some of them cry every single day.

    The easiest way to see through the facade…look at how many photos they are alone in.
    Second easiest way…how many of those photos are with equally single woman friends who are just as alone as they are.

  52. Embracing Reality says:

    Yep, I wish I could post photos here. The 40 year old I’m currently dating doesn’t do Facebook but she sends me pictures of herself with her single ladies group from church. The lady I’m seeing is about 140 pounds at nearly 6 foot. In the pictures she’s surrounded by women all of who are well shorter. I would estimate none of them are under 200 pounds and several definitely exceed 300! No wonder they’re depressed, damn..

  53. feministhater says:

    Why are you dating a 40 year old?

  54. “…Modern Christians are so afraid of confronting the rebellion that they aren’t merely silent, they are in active denial that any rebellion is taking place.”

    Much like part of the history of The Holocaust: there were reports of what the Nazis were doing filtering outside of Europe, but the Jews and the Gentiles alike here in the ‘Free World’ didn’t do anything or say anything mainly because they couldn’t actually believe it. It took the actual overrunning of Germany and the liberation of the death camps — plus the testimony of the pitiful, gruesome survivors AND their horrified liberators — to prove it to the world.
    And the irony is that there are still Holocaust deniers.

  55. Sigma Frame says:

    About Pastor Chandler’s quote…
    “My man sacrifices so that I might grow in my gifts. He will oftentimes lay down his own desires in order to serve me more. My husband goes to bed tired at night. He pours into our children. He encourages me. All that comes out of his mouth, sans a couple of little times here and there, is him building me up in love.”
    I see this statement to be less of a denial, and more of a subconscious expression of hope. He hopes that he might see his own, and other men’s, sacrifices appreciated, and garner a little respect from his wife (and the church) by doing so. Of course, this perspective indicates that he is starved for appreciation and respect. Unfortunately, there are few people, especially women, who will hear this plea and recognize that his heart, like many other men’s, is yearning for something more in life, and who will respond to this need accordingly. Furthermore, there is the lamentable conundrum of spiritual deception – how his constant efforts to cling to this desire, while perceived as hope and faith, invariably blinds him from seeing the reality that you described. I believe this conundrum is perhaps the greatest weakness of immature Christians (or Churchianity if you prefer) – that donning an “ideal” spiritual posture, characterized by hope, faith and love, tends to obviate objective/situational truth and displace the present reality, especially in those who are hurting the most and find such platitudes to be an anesthetic. So just based on this quote, I don’t see Chandler as a pastor who is working overtime to cunningly manufacture deception in order to lead his flock astray. Instead, I see him as a typical man floundering at the brink of an excruciating emotional perdition, clamoring for a morsel of grace. What does the Red Pill offer to such men?

  56. feministhater says:

    What does the Red Pill offer to such men?

    Some hard truths. That’s all it’s ever going to offer and that’s what a lot of these men need.

  57. Dalrock says:

    @Sigma Frame

    I see this statement to be less of a denial, and more of a subconscious expression of hope. He hopes that he might see his own, and other men’s, sacrifices appreciated, and garner a little respect from his wife (and the church) by doing so. Of course, this perspective indicates that he is starved for appreciation and respect.

    I don’t think so, because he frames this as an indictment of the husbands in his congregation. He is setting the husband and wife up for a fight, and Chandler actually goes so far as to schedule the fight (on the drive home). See the full text at the link in the OP, or see this post for more context: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/stoking-feminist-resentment/

  58. BillyS says:

    I agree it is shocking what he says so much Dalrock, but I still tend to believe he is just incredibly stupid rather than intentionally malicious. I have seen plenty of stupid in my time, including going through my recent divorce.

    Perhaps I am just denying reality, but most of the idiots just acted like that. They are certainly deceived and refuse to see the truth, but I don’t get the “I am in it for the money” feel from them.

  59. Darwinian Arminian says:

    Likewise, future historians will see that conservative Christians like Pastor Chandler responded to the constant feminist agitation in the culture by assuring men that the agitation will have no impact on their wives and daughters, so long as the men are nice enough, and tired enough.

    The pastors have no business claiming ignorance or that they just didn’t understand what was happening. This is particularly true of the leaders at the higher levels of the church. Seeing this at Dalrock’s made me remember a piece that I’d seen one of the bloggers over at The Gospel Coalition post back when the “Frozen” movie first came out:

    ARE WE MISSING THE POINT OF FROZEN’S “LET IT GO”?

    Thousands of little girls across the country are singing this song – a manifesto of sorts, a call to cast off restraint, rebel against unrealistic expectations and instead be true to whatever you feel most deeply inside. What’s ironic is that the movie’s storyline goes against the message of this song. When the princess decides to “let it go,” she brings terrible evil into the world. The fallout from her actions is devastating. “No right, no wrong, no rules for me” is the sin that isolates the princess and freezes her kingdom.

    It’s only after sacrificial love saves her from the effects of the curse that the princess is free to redirect her passion and power – not in “turning away” and “slamming the door” and expressing herself – but in channeling her powers for the good of her people.

    If there is a moral to Frozen, it’s that “letting it go” is self-centered and damaging. What’s needed is for our distinctive gifts to be stewarded and shaped by redemptive love. Perhaps that’s why I’m flummoxed by the popularity of “Let It Go” (the song). Not from an artistic standpoint; it’s a gem. But I’m afraid its popularity drowns out the bigger and more beautiful point of the film.

    You can see the whole thing here: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevin-wax/missing-the-point-of-frozens-let-it-go/

    I’m glad that the writer was at least able to pick up on the message the girls are being sent, but it’s galling that even in spite of this he can’t bring himself to be anything more than tepid in his condemnation of it. Even after acknowledging that the song is basically an unironic ode to self-fulfillment through selfishness he goes out of his way to praise the film’s supposed artistic merits, while also assuring parents of daughters that they “will find ways to connect this movie’s theme to the gospel.”

    Modern church leaders are a pathetic and depressing lot, but that’s not because they have disdain for the Christian message. It’s because they really do seem to believe it, but still can’t come to terms with the fact that admitting so would deny them a respectability from the popular culture they have to work in. So instead they’ll work to find all of the parts of the modern age that would agree with the Christian message and emphasize how their “Christianity” agrees with that too, even as they stay quiet about all the other places where their message diverges. And that’s how we get an entire generation of pastors that will only ever be as good as CNN and Time Warner will allow them to be.

  60. earl says:

    @ Embracing Reality…and others

    Someone should explain the hamsterization of this one:

    ‘Women Are Happier Being Single, New Report Finds. Here’s Why.’

    http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/women-are-happier-single-as-being-in-a-relationship-means-more-work-/

  61. earl says:

    “Women, especially, are more likely to enjoy solitude than men are. Single women find being alone is a wonderful time for restoration, creativity, and personal growth. And there are so many more opportunities to create the life you want, such as traveling, following your passions and doing meaningful work.”

    I can’t for the life of me understand then why women are popping anti-anxiety and anti-depressants like they are candy.

  62. feeriker says:

    Modern church leaders are a pathetic and depressing lot, but that’s not because they have disdain for the Christian message. It’s because they really do seem to believe it, but still can’t come to terms with the fact that admitting so would deny them a respectability from the popular culture they have to work in.

    That these assclowns so obviously are slaves to the whims of the world tells us that they are in the wrong line of work.

  63. earl says:

    or…

    That these assclowns so obviously are slaves to their wives tells us that they are in the wrong line of work.

  64. PokeSalad says:

    Someone should explain the hamsterization of this one:

    Making a virtue of necessity?

  65. Westray says:

    “Women, especially, are more likely to enjoy solitude than men are. Single women find being alone is a wonderful time for restoration, creativity, and personal growth.”

    Reading between the lines; “Single men are incapable of creating or undergoing personal growth.”

    Let me guess: Single men devolve into a world of Cheetos, football (year round even, right?), belching and nutscratching without a superior being around directing them to humanhood.

    Also why the word ‘especially’? What angle of projection does that word attempt to mask? Also, how would she know, being a woman, how men feel about solitude? She hasn’t had a relationship with any solitary men, by math, so how would she know?

    Over half of my friends are divorced and giggle like schoolchildren with glee over the fact that there is no woman in their life who would be constantly manufacturing unhappiness out of thin air. These guys feel real, true joy over the fact that they are solitary too. I know them.

  66. earl says:

    “Single women find being alone is a wonderful time for restoration, creativity, and personal growth.”

    When do they do that? In between wine drinking session, turning their pets into children, and worrying about their biological clock?

  67. Dale says:

    @Embracing Reality
    FH asked Why are you dating a 40 year old?

    Given your description of the pictures of her friends, I would encourage you to also consider the question, Why are you pursuing a woman who approves of obesity?
    When a woman has many friends who are obese, she is obviously going to have trouble disapproving of their characters; “team woman”.
    And if your current prospect has no problem with giving approval to a bunch of obese women, what do you think her expectation is, for a husband whose wife becomes fat? Do you think she would view the wife’s behaviour as unacceptable, sinning through refusal to be self-controlled (Titus 2:3-5), and depriving her husband of an enjoyable sex partner (1 Cor 7:1-5 should apply)? Or would she say that her husband should “love her as she is”, with no consequences or discipline (Heb 12:11, Prov 3:11-12, Rev chapters 3 and 4, etc.)?

    If a woman sees no problem with obesity, my suggestion is to run. Of course, I can’t find any worthy woman around these parts to pursue, so I am hardly qualified to teach you how to find a better woman. Although, I did see a few self-controlled women, wearing women’s clothing, in an Orthodox service this week.

    Speaking of which… I thought it was both sad and good that the church had a sign on the front door, asking women to show respect by dressing in women’s clothing instead of pants. Sad that the church has to put a notice on the door, asking for obedience to 1 Cor 11:1-16. But very good that they would make the request, despite the “meanness” of which they could/would be accused.
    Getting back on topic, what does it say about the Protestant churches that claim “sola Scriptura”, when the traditions/denominations characterized by traditions/rituals are more obedient to the Scriptures than the Protestants who claim to accept Scripture above all else?

  68. Dale says:

    Oops, sorry; the “no cross dressing” rule is given in Deut 22:5; 1 Cor 11 talks about head-coverings, hair length, etc.

  69. Gunner Q says:

    Dale @ November 15, 2017 at 10:16 am:
    “Getting back on topic, what does it say about the Protestant churches that claim “sola Scriptura”, when the traditions/denominations characterized by traditions/rituals are more obedient to the Scriptures than the Protestants who claim to accept Scripture above all else?”

    It says they have no root. Both Scripture and Tradition provide a grounding in Christ that Pastor AMOG cannot wave away. Ghosts whispering feelings apparently never say ‘no’.

  70. BillyS says:

    Dale,

    While some pants can be more male (such as a clearly male business suit on a woman), I haven’t seen the Scripture that proclaims pants are male and dresses are female. You would have to prove that first. What clearly makes an outfit “male” and “female”?

  71. Embracing Reality says:

    Since it’s been mentioned twice:

    “Why are you dating a 40 year old”

    Well, for starters she’s around 8 years younger than me. Should I be dating 22 year olds? If you’ve educated yourself on women you’ll know that women generally despise dating men more than 10 years older, More than 5 to some. If a man is dating a woman dramatically younger she’s generally either a gold digger or she’s hideous. The exception are women looking for short term flings with an older man. That’s available to me except I have moral standards to try to live up to.

    She leads a ladies group at her church. Her attendees tend to be single, sad, desperate and often overweight women because that’s mostly what’s out there. Look around. It’s America.

    This woman is attractive. She looks mid 30’s easily, with smooth skin, bright eyes and beautiful smile. Before her run she does these stretches and arches on the floor that are a delight for my eyes, and she knows it… We run and I can hardly keep up with her. Never married, minimal history with men, educated, good family. What?

    Because of the risks in this corrupt society and my general disinterested in children, combined with my age, I only date women who don’t have and don’t want kids. I find them on dating sites. There are successful, attractive, responsible. moral Christian women out there. Though rare, these women can be found online. You better have yourself together though, they can afford to be picky. The few hold outs that haven’t married were typically career focused when younger.

    Pro Tip: If a woman brings significant money and success of her own to a marriage your risk of divorce theft is mitigated, especially without children.

    Setting aside the fact that some of the single men on this site don’t date at all. Those who do date might widen their horizons. There may be a whole other world out there than the one you’ve been looking in. Some successful guys use try to use money to impress women. Big mistake. If you’re successful you can date successful women. If you use success to date women significantly out of your league you better not marry them. They can separate you from your money and keep you paying for quite awhile.

  72. feministhater says:

    I’m just of the opinion that one is meant to either get hitched when younger or just be single or married when older. Older dating turns me off completely. Just not interested. Far too much time to waste on dating and since I’m Christian too, it would just be an intimate friendship anyway. I have plenty of friendships that don’t require the cost or time wasting of dating.

    You can usually respond to a simple question by stating that you find her attractive and like being around her. I just found it weird when I have previously read other comments from you that state, quite categorically, that you prefer to bide your time making money and not spending it on hobbies or frivolities. I would consider dating a 40 year old woman a frivolity, it’s not going anywhere. Just my two cents.

  73. Novaseeker says:

    I would consider dating a 40 year old woman a frivolity, it’s not going anywhere.

    Well he could marry her after all, you know. He doesn’t want children and neither does she, and in that case the age isn’t really as much of a factor, especially given that he describes her as fit and attractive.

  74. feeriker says:

    When do they do that? In between wine drinking session, turning their pets into children, and worrying about their biological clock?

    Usually when they’re not zonked out on their cocktails of headmeds. That would be maybe for five minutes, once every calendar quarter.

  75. Swanny River says:

    Darwinian A. I thought your post was right on topic and rich for comments, but apparently not, judging by the lack of responses. TGC and CBMW are two of my favorite topics here. I bet Trevin might respond if we notified him of your excellent excerpt from his post.. I am curious if he is exhausted by seeing the problem yet being tepid? I don’t visit the site anymore, but he was one writer I often liked.
    I know the tepidness of TGC to the FI exhausted me.
    Since I mention two my favorite topics, I should say my favorite one: it has to be all of the Protestant and Catholic bickering here that take good topics off-track.
    /s. This blog needs a link to a sideroom where Earl and Billy, or whomever a common Prot combatant is, and the others can dig at it interminably. It would easily be the most commented topic here.

  76. Embracing Reality says:

    Not sure why it matters but I’m at a point that I can retire, now what? Keep working and working so I can pay higher taxes? I’ve given the fed and state hundreds of thousands, it’s sickening. I’m certainly not going to continue grinding myself into the ground to give money to the apostate church. Missions maybe but I’m looking for a simpler life in what time I have left. In my spare time I travel and meet interesting women online because I enjoy it. Highly recommend it! It’s a kick to land in a new city, meet an attractive woman who’s agreed to show you the town for a few days. Seen numerous major cities that way and cool places. Oregon Coast was the most beautiful so far. I may never marry but under the right circumstances I might, who knows. What does one do with oneself when marriageandbabies is off the table? I’m not much for fishing. Hunting? I’d kill a dear and cut him to pieces but wonder around in the cold for two weeks just to find one? I ain’t mad at
    em’.. Don’t care about sports, video games. Tired of cars. To each his own I suppose..

  77. Embracing Reality says:

    It occurs to me that my “tone” regarding relationships with women likely does vary in my posts here, as it does in my real life. Depending, it seems, on my state of mind and emotion as each are daily influenced by my tormentors. A man is far better off staying single, not dating and limiting his interactions with women to the absolute minimum!

    Yet I continue.

  78. Dale says:

    @BillyS: I haven’t seen the Scripture that proclaims pants are male and dresses are female

    It’s rather simple. The problem is not one of difficulty, but rather rebellion. Answer the following four questions; the answers will certainly vary by culture, but the answers will in fact be obvious and known. (Maybe not to an outsider, but to a person from that culture, it will be.) Refer to Deut 22:5.

    1) Suppose a man wants to show he is adamantly refusing to obey the command to not wear women’s clothing. What would he wear, that is clearly women’s clothing, to show this careful, deliberate rebellion? (Please actually think, and state/write your answer.)
    2) Suppose a man wants to show he is being careful to wear what is clearly men’s clothing; something that, even from 50 feet away, will show he is striving to accept God’s ordering of society. What would he wear, that is clearly men’s clothing, to show this careful, deliberate obedience?
    3) Suppose a woman wants to show she is adamantly refusing to obey the command to not wear men’s clothing. What would she wear, that is clearly men’s clothing, to show this careful, deliberate rebellion?
    4) Suppose a woman wants to show she is being careful to wear what is clearly women’s clothing; something that, even from 50 feet away, will show she is striving to accept God’s ordering of society. What would she wear, that is clearly women’s clothing, to show this careful, deliberate obedience?

    The problem, of course, is with question 3. We generally refuse to admit that a woman can be sinful. Therefore, any choice she makes is acceptable. I found the Orthodox church to be very effective at affecting behaviour. Worth commending.

    You (and others) are certainly correct that Scripture never addresses robe styles, colours or modern pants. And it is also irrelevant. God does not give commands that FORCE us to sin, by disobedience to those commands; see James 1:13-15. True, we all sin. But, for each individual temptation, God does provide a way out; see 1 Cor 10:12-13. The problem is not one of confusion about how to obey — it is one of deliberate suppression of our consciences so we can be comfortable with our rebellion.
    If we claim there is nothing a woman can do to disobey, then we also make clear that it is impossible for her to choose to obey. I think this is why God gave Adam and Eve a command that could be broken; without the ability to rebel, there also was not the ability to remain faithful/obedient.

    We sinful humans really have problems…… And, as a group, our problems are self-inflicted.

    @Embracing Reality

    Reasonable reply. I mistakenly thought the overweight women she hung out with were her friends, rather than those she was attempting to bring to maturity. (Hope Titus 2:3-5 is a focus for her.)
    Your comments re your age and children are informative. I wish you well.

  79. earl says:

    A man is far better off staying single, not dating and limiting his interactions with women to the absolute minimum!

    A man is far better off listening to God’s will than his own emotions. Emotions for all intensive purposes are very speculative and can often reveal a man’s hypocrisy. There’s more order in a man’s life if his passions are submitted to something higher.

  80. feministhater says:

    Don’t care about sports, video games. Tired of cars. To each his own I suppose..

    Sometimes I have to make myself realise that just because I wouldn’t find it rewarding, it doesn’t mean someone else won’t. We see life through our own filtered prisms.

  81. Embracing Reality says:

    @ Earl,

    Regarding Listening to God’s will I’ve always considered the primary source to be God’s word. I try to live by God’s law and scriptures. I endured a childhood in the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement of the late 70’s and 80’s. The disasters I’ve seen in families, countless times, after people made decisions claiming to hear “a word from the Lord” could fill a book. Doesn’t mean it never happens but I’ve never heard a specific instruction for my life from on high and I don’t believe anyone I know has either. Maybe it’s different for you. I know the New Testament Apostles heard directly from the Spirit but I haven’t achieved that level in my spiritual walk.

    As for emotion, we can maintain a stoic demeanor, I do. The emotion is still there. Christ and the apostles displayed much emotion in the New Testament. The writings of King David are of a man who has mastered the displays of emotion. We shouldn’t be ruled by our emotions but they are always still there.

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  84. BillyS says:

    Dale,

    You still fail to provide Scriptural support for your position. You just do a lot of handwaving and claim rebellion.

    The rebellion is certainly present and the modern church would do well to have a deep discussion about what is “men’s” and “women’s” clothing, but arbitrarily calling women who don’t where dresses “in rebellion” lacks Scriptural support.

    I will say most women look more feminine in a good dress, but I won’t demand that as a Scriptural standard without Scripture to back it up.

  85. BillyS says:

    ER,

    So the answer is to let the Pope/Priest or whoever make the call on what is spiritually right and what isn’t? That is not consistent with the Bereans who were commended for searching the Scriptures to see what was right. Some may not do that fully, accurately or even at all, but it doesn’t make the principle wrong.

    Humans will be humans. Quit blaming that on believing a certain way.

  86. Dale says:

    BillyS claims You still fail to provide Scriptural support for your position.

    I did; perhaps you failed to crack open a Bible and read it. The reference is right there in my comment.

    arbitrarily calling women who don’t where dresses

    I made three comments on this topic; Nov 15 10:16, a correction on Nov 15 10:19, and a fuller explanation for those needing it on Nov 16 1:29 in response to a question.
    In none of my comments did I use the word “dresses”, other than to quote you. That was your clothing term (word), not mine. Your problem may be that you are looking for a modern clothing term in the ancient text. Anyone with half a brain however, who ponders how to show obedience or disobedience to the related Scripture reference, will be able to give you the correct clothing terms on their own. I do not need to provide you the appropriate clothing terms; they are obvious. And it is “obvious” that you know they are obvious, as shown by the fact you knew to refer to a “dress” in your comment, even though I did not mention it.
    And the women in the Orthodox church I went to apparently also thought the appropriate clothing terms were obvious. 95% were wearing a “d” or a “s”. (Avoiding the full words for the sake of not triggering anyone in the audience hah hah hah.)

  87. Gunner Q says:

    BillyS @ 1:12 am:
    “Dale, You still fail to provide Scriptural support for your position. You just do a lot of handwaving and claim rebellion.”

    I don’t see why he needs Scriptural support when it’s context that makes clothing masculine or feminine. What the context is matters less than keeping the sexes distinct. Which is what the church Dale mentioned is trying to do.

    My kilt is male clothing but I’m careful to not wear it out of context. That’s because I want to do right by God, not because there’s Scripture that says “no kilts”.

  88. BillyS says:

    Pants are inherently male? What proves that Gunner Q?

  89. Gunner Q says:

    Dale, I feel your pain.

  90. Dale says:

    Thanks Gunner Q 🙂 Sometimes it feels like I am trying to reason with a wall.
    Gimme patience God… Now!!! 🙂

  91. Luke says:

    BillyS says:
    November 17, 2017 at 6:38 pm
    “Pants are inherently male? What proves that Gunner Q?”

    Deuteronomy 22:5
    King James 2000 Bible
    “The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God.”

  92. Oscar says:

    Skinny jeans ain’t masculine.

  93. Dale says:

    Pink denim jeans are likewise not masculine… at least not in my area. Can’t comment for San Fransisco 🙂

  94. Future historians will be Islamic Imams managing the United States’ Caliphate. Let It Go and Frozen and everything feminist and go-girl will be erased. Anyone that thinks Go-Grrls will stand up to the rigors of the Raping Hispanic Patriarchy and the Islamic Caliphate once the kindly old Christian menfolk are gone are nuts. The Jews are going to have issues, too. We are now “woke” to Jews, we know what they are now, they can’t hide anymore. Those awful toxic White Christian men that used to protect women and girls as a matter of decency and chivalry will be sorely missed in a truly violent, raping and crushing patriarchy. Hey, why fight it? Under the Caliphate, I get my male privilege back. With a vengeance.

  95. Oh, and the young lad in the picture in the skinnies? Someday his type, dare one appear, will be the Blue Plate Special at the local Mosque (although Weinstein, Clinton and Spacey would like him too) and then be thrown off the 5th story roof for being gay. Muslim Imams and Afghani military officers are actually quite gay for children but without penalty for some reason. Our rank-and-file military has to keep quiet about all of it. Depraved Indifference. If not a crime, a sin?

  96. Boxer says:

    Future historians will be Islamic Imams managing the United States’ Caliphate. Let It Go and Frozen and everything feminist and go-girl will be erased.

    Zero chance. Islam is being feminized at breakneck speed. My own pet theory says that the refugee influx will only accelerate this. At some point, the feminist muslims will be reinjected into the middle east, to “smash the patriarchy” in the Islamic world.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/26/women-lead-friday-prayers-denmark-first-female-run-mosque-mariam

    In short, Islam will not save you.

    Boxer

  97. seventiesjason says:

    skinnies are only allowed on skaters, and you have to have your deck under arm on the way to the skate park or you’re on the bus going home because its 100 degrees and you skated all day

  98. Embracing Reality says:

    The city I live in is a multicultural jambalaya. I deal with and do business with muslim and mexican nationals everyday. Nobody wishes they would all go back to their country of origin more than me but they’re not leaving. Honestly, I’ve known several muslims personally for several years and the ones raised here are nothing like their parents. They become increasingly casual about their beliefs. This culture does feminize them, control their minds. I’ve met a lot of them who aren’t much different than the average millennial beta. I wouldn’t want to be in Europe right now but the tiny minority of muslims in this country are tame and scared of us. Their highly educated daughters are feminist terrors ready and eager to break the balls of the patriarchs.

    Latinos are well known for their matriarchal family structures and I’ve seen a lot of that. Grown men who fear their fat, lazy wives disapproval. Men who work like slaves for fat wives who do little of nothing except crack the p-whip. Chivalrous worshippers of their wives and Virgin Mary. Breeding like the planet is running out of people and taking everything they can get from government and anybody else. They think nothing of it. Be sure though, they’re not here to help, especially not whites. Their children are however quickly adapted into the culture of a amerika

    The future is the children of every ethnicity breeding casually with the other. Raised by the public schools, government. culture, media.

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  100. Oscar says:

    @ seventiesjason says:
    November 18, 2017 at 9:07 am

    “skinnies are only allowed on skaters”

    Skinny jeans look no less effeminate on skaters than they do on hipsters.

  101. earlthomas786 says:

    Skinny jeans ain’t masculine.

    If you can fit into skinny jeans…you need testosterone and a squat rack.

    Plus I would think there would be a lot of parts that would feel like they are being crushed.

  102. earlthomas786 says:

    We shouldn’t be ruled by our emotions but they are always still there.

    Yes, we should have ordered emotions…not lack of them.

  103. Frank K says:

    In short, Islam will not save you.

    Any true Christian knows that. If anything, we know that Islam’s rise is most likely a punishment for the West’s collective apostasy and embrace of Paganism and Atheism.

  104. Dave says:

    Any true Christian knows that. If anything, we know that Islam’s rise is most likely a punishment for the West’s collective apostasy and embrace of Paganism and Atheism.

    Very true. But going even further, one can say the apostasy started with the Church, before it hit society. Today’s church is thoroughly emasculated. It is the salt which has lost its savor, and is no longer good for anything, other than being a foot mat of the world.

    Matthew 5:13 (KJV)

    Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

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