Why Dave is sexy (language warning).

Bustle has an article by Emma Lord about a Reddit post making the rounds:  “Dave The Period Fairy” Has Become A Viral Sensation After A Woman Shared A Nightmare Hiking Experience On Reddit.  Lord claims Dave is sexy because he is a feminist new age guy:

Personally, I am the one who is stupid — stupid in love with Jane’s friend Dave, that is.

It isn’t just Dave’s unexpectedly feminist Boy Scout preparedness, but that this is the kind of thing that normalizes periods in general. All too often, the burden of lifting the stigma on menstruation falls on women…

This is another round in a very long feminist con, telling men they will be sexy if they carry tampons and lift the stigma of menstruation. As Lord explains:

…maybe the mere existence of Dave the Period Fairy will inspire a whole new movement of period fairies and we can all live in relative, menstrually sound peace.

This is of course nonsense, and any white knights trying to win over women in this way will find it has the opposite of the desired effect.  Nice guys, and especially nice guy feminists, aren’t just not sexy, they are repulsive.

But this story has a twist.  If you read the original Reddit post, Dave really was sexy.  As “Jane” the author of the post explains in the comments:

Lol I should link him this thread. Except I just expressed my desire to, and I quote, “Fuck the shit out of him” which might be weird.

Normally I would say she is running the same con on nice guys Emma Lord is running.  But if you look at her description of the event you can see why this ostensibly feminist nice guy really did turn her on*.  It isn’t what Dave did (provided her with a tampon), but how he did it.  When Dave sensed that something was wrong, he didn’t sheepishly ask m’lady if he could be of assistance.  Dave approached her like a father would approach a daughter in the same situation:

Dave looks back and notices me walking like a goblin. To my horror, he falls back and starts walking next to me. He leans in and whispers,

“Do you need to pee?”

I’m like, huh? Then I realized I’m like doubled over with my hands on my crotch. Seemed obvious.

“No, I, that’s not,” I’m stammering.

“Period issue?” he says next.

At that point I’m like this and I just mumble “yeah.”

Note the image she links to that demonstrates that she felt like a little girl who needs daddy to help.  As Heartiste explains, tingles are born in the defensive crouch.

At this point Dave takes charge of the situation, giving everyone, including Jane, clear instructions:

And then, this guy, this fucking glorious, magnificent guy, he calls out to John and Teddy: “Hey, Jane’s scraped her arm on a tree or some shit, I’m gonna tend to it but it’s gonna be like five minutes. Just get to the road and set up lunch and call the car.”

John says sure and the two of them keep on walking. Dave slides off his magical backpack and opens a pouch on the front of it. “Pads or tampons?” he says.

I mutter “tampons,” completely stunned at all this. He pulls out three tampons, the good kind, and a handful of wet-naps. Hands them to me and then he opens the main compartment and pulls out a long sleeve black t-shirt. “Go in the trees and take care of it, then tie the shirt around your waist.” He then pulls out a big band-aid and slaps it on my arm to keep up his cover story.

There is a lesson men can learn from this story on how to be sexually attractive to women.  It isn’t to become a walking tampon dispenser**, or to be a feminist nice guy in general.  The lesson is to be a strong man who effortlessly and unapologetically takes charge of the situation, whatever that situation may be.

H/T Instapundit.

*The story itself strikes me as almost certainly fiction, but the reason this particular Reddit post has gone viral is that the fantasy it is selling is compelling to women.

**Or as modern Christians put it, emotionally available.

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224 Responses to Why Dave is sexy (language warning).

  1. purge187 says:

    Fewer things are more pathetic than a man who totes around female sanitary products.
    Jonathan McIntosh and others who cater to the female imperative deserve anything they get and anything more.

  2. Strong, independent, kickass, take-charge women are showing the boys how to be a man, but in their 30s they still haven’t figured out how to count to four weeks. And that’s why they always need Daddy to take care of them.

    Because It’s Not Fair.

  3. RagingBeta says:

    I was going to make the same point. This bodily function occurs regularly, but this woman didnt plan for it? They really are children.

  4. feministhater says:

    I would just let her suffer. Dave is a slave.

  5. The lesson is to be a strong man who effortlessly and unapologetically takes charge of the situation, whatever that situation may be.

    Sure…however if a woman hasn’t figured that particular thing out by the time she’s an adult, she really is childish.

  6. Scott says:

    If my mom didn’t call me every first of the month, I would totally forget to pay my mortgage.

  7. feministhater says:

    This encapsulates feminism and women in a nutshell, she’s independent alright and better be treated as such by being allowed into all male spaces but the man better take care of all the necessities in life, including her tampons, just in case she can’t keep track of her bodily functions that run on a pretty certain schedule.

    Dave must have been rather attractive because any average man who tries to be this upfront, asking a woman if she needs to go pee or needs a tampon, could land himself in deep water should an accusation be made against him for being sexually forward with her. Oh yeah, he’s going to tend to it for five minutes alone with a feminist in the bushes… opening himself up for all sorts of accusations years down the line..

  8. Feminism…where women try to convince everyone they are adults equal to men, yet get overwhelmed they often say things like ‘I can’t do adulting today’

  9. Embracing Reality says:

    I wonder what Dave’s motivations really are here, if he actually exists. I wonder if Dave is actually a truly benevolent helper of foolish females or if he wants something… Quite sure he’s not looking to commit a lifetime of devotion to someone so stupid she can’t manage her own biological functions.

  10. Damn Crackers says:

    Of course it is fiction, but now the Army will require every platoon to have a Cpl. Dave attached to it.

  11. feministhater says:

    Cpl. Tampon Dave reporting for duty, Sir! Haha! Has a good ring to it.

  12. getalonghome says:

    Dave does not exist. If he did, no one would like him, least of all Jane.

  13. I do think most of these feminist stories are just as made up as the cad stories on the internet.

  14. seventiesjason says:

    All bachelors out there……now you need to keep a stash of tampons at your apartment / bachelor bat cave because you know…….just in case you have a “perfect 10” over and she suddenly needs one! This is perfect for the Boy Scouts now too, since they are letting “girls” join…….

    Yeah, ol’ Dave here must have been a way above average looking guy. Any other dude would have been given the “creep” look…….oh wait, she would have never gone hiking with a guy like that to begin with!

  15. Stephen says:

    Guys I carry tampons and pads on all my back country trips. Tampons work great for a piercing wound and pads work well as a bandage, they both soak up a lot of blood and they don’t take up much room in the med kit.

    Never had them used fore their intended purpose though. Anybody, male or female I take in the back country had better be planning ahead.

  16. Charles says:

    In one write-up, the author contacted the hiker chick, who admitted to *not being attracted to Dave* because “they’re different types” or some such. Even this doesn’t actually attract any chicks Dave knows IRL, just hypothetical chicks who will never actually meet and bang Dave.

  17. Charles says:

    Bottom of the article: “As for whether Jane’s period will bring them together for the ultimate love match? Jane responded to a comment that seemed to indicate that it would not be since they’re pretty different, alas. But hey — more Dave for us..”

    Wait, if he’s super hot and all, why isn’t his awesomeness doing it for Jane?

  18. QQ says:

    Related: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/05/02/real-men-dont-just-carry-purses-they-restock-them-too/

    A teenage boy’s supplicating instagram post has gone viral, and is upping the ante for servant leaders everywhere.

    TO EVERY BOY THAT FOLLOWS ME AND CALLS HIMSELF A MAN OR SIMPLY A GOOD HUMAN BEING. Petition for all of us to start bringing a couple pads or tampons to school to help our girl friends. If you have a girlfriend or are friends with a girl, u should know that they do not always have tampons or pads on them, or that sometimes their period just hits them without notice and have a bit of a problem finding one. We should support them with this, after all, we don’t have to go trough all they they do because of menstruation, so it’s just logical that we help them…

    The chick rags are of course delighted. Huffington Post exclaims: The Awesome Reason Why This Teen Boy Is Carrying Around Tampons At School. Liz Alterman at The Stir explains in Why This Teen Boy Is Asking Male Students to Bring Tampons to School that she hopes to raise sons like this:

    As expected, he’s taken a bit of heat from guys in his class but he’s remaining steadfast in his sympathetic stance and we applaud his effort. Imagine a generation of guys who aren’t embarrassed to go out and buy tampons and maxi-pads for their wives or girlfriends? I’d like to raise sons like that!

    Except, maybe her sons shouldn’t be like that:

    Still, as a mom of boys, I don’t know if I’d want my son to morph into a human tampon dispenser.

    Looking at the picture of the kid holding maxi pads with a please love me look on his face, my hope is that this isn’t real and is instead someone from the manosphere trolling the internet. Either way, if you’ve ever struggled to understand beta creepiness this should help you understand the phenomenon.

  19. Wait, if he’s super hot and all, why isn’t his awesomeness doing it for Jane?

    Isn’t it funny that even in fantasy feminist men aren’t even attractive to women who espouse feminism.

  20. Lost Patrol says:

    What was the plan during all those centuries before tampons?

  21. seventiesjason says:

    Charles, because Jane likes one of Dave’s friends / needs Dave to be the literal “tampon” in her life to dry the tears type-of-thing / Jane will turn Dave into an orbiter of sorts for when all her options “dry” up……or Jane actually is telling the truth (doubtful, but a possibility)

  22. Anonymous Reader says:

    Well, there’s a market niche; “Dave’s Tampons” (the good kind) in green colored eco-friendly wrappers. Dispensed in a box of 2 or 4, each comes with a free sticker for a man to wear that says

    MeToo! I carry tampons, too, m’lady!”.

  23. feministhater says:

    If Dave exists, it could be that Dave wants nothing to do with Jane. This would fit with Dalrock’s thoughts about Dave fitting the ‘Dad’ role rather than the ‘feminist’ role that Jane tries to force on him. If Dave is the man Dalrock envisions, he wouldn’t want Jane himself as she is a feminist ‘know-it-all’ and he probably wants a woman he can care for.

    I’m leaning to him not even existing though. Far more plausible.

  24. feministhater says:

    What was the plan during all those centuries before tampons?

    Grin and bear it, clean up on aisle 6, mop up, no sex for a week and general washing of the area through the day. Also a towel of some sort. As with diapers, humans survived before just fine without all the disposable utilities we have today.

  25. seventiesjason says:

    I lived in India, part of the reason why “the third world” is always pregnant is the fact that there is little or no “sanitary” methods for that time of the month. Women where I lived usually used shredded linen. In that literal heat, unavailable clean water for frequent bathing…it’s actually more practical to be pregnant.

  26. He pulls out three tampons, the good kind, and a handful of wet-naps.

    There’s the line that likely makes this a fantasy. Does any guy know what ‘the good kind’ is? I doubt I can even name more than 1 or 2 brands.

  27. Ryder says:

    According to the Reddit article, the guys carry guns, first aid, sat phone, mil-spec packs…it sounds like Jane hikes with guys who are into survival/preparedness. If Dave is the medic, tampons are a pretty reasonable thing to carry. Just Google 10 uses for tampons when SHTF. He wasn’t a feminist hero who had his moment; he was a well-prepared dude who took charge of a situation with admirable discretion.

  28. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    seventiesjason: ol’ Dave here must have been a way above average looking guy. Any other dude would have been given the “creep” look

    Actually, it is kinda creepy. Why would any man carry an ample supply of pads and tampons in his backpack? Does he have a period fetish?

  29. feministhater says:

    I lived in India, part of the reason why “the third world” is always pregnant is the fact that there is little or no “sanitary” methods for that time of the month. Women where I lived usually used shredded linen. In that literal heat, unavailable clean water for frequent bathing…it’s actually more practical to be pregnant.

    Clean water is a must but India is known for people bathing in dirty rivers with dead corpses, faeces, sewage and garbage floating right next to them. A woman could get away with using a clean towel, cut to shape and placed in her underwear, and continue about her day, clean herself off in the evening, wash the towel in clean water and soap and reuse the next day. A bucket of clean water would be enough. It’s not too hard.

  30. ThatOtherGuy says:

    Tampons and pads are recommended items for a light portable do-it-yourself first aid kit. This surprised me the first time that I heard it until the first aid instructor explained that they are a good single use source of sterile gauze. Their secondary use of letting you be a hero to an unprepared woman is merely a side benefit of being prepared.

  31. Why couldn’t his name be Ahmed? Why I ask?

  32. Soforth says:

    As a woman, I hate it when feminists make us all look incompetent. Jeez, ladies, we’ve all been there but do you have to tell everybody about it? Cut up a T shirt, buy a Diva Cup for your next hike, and then STFU.

    Don’t hold Dave’s tampon-toting against him. If he’s an experienced group hiker he might have come across this before. Just imagine him privately rolling his eyes over a mishap and making plans for the next hike.

  33. feministhater says:

    Guys I carry tampons and pads on all my back country trips. Tampons work great for a piercing wound and pads work well as a bandage, they both soak up a lot of blood and they don’t take up much room in the med kit.

    Perfectly sound reason. That’s probably the reason Dave had them in the first place. They are absorbent and can function very well as a clean, space saving bandage. They can also be great for starting a fire, absorb some flammable liquid, place in the middle of the firewood and light. Stand back and watch the magic unfold. Plenty more reasons they are great for survival.

    That isn’t the reasoning being used by Jane though.

  34. feministhater says:

    …he was a well-prepared dude who took charge of a situation with admirable discretion.

    I would politely tell him to knock of the discretion bit. It could stand for a nasty future accusation. Rather tell the rest of the crew the problem as it would teach the girl a valuable lesson in and of itself and save you bad press in the future. Better yet, give her the tampon and tell her to fix herself up and catch up with the rest of the crew who will be waiting for her further up the path. No need to spend five minutes alone with a feminist.

  35. Novaseeker says:

    If he exists, I wonder what Dave thinks about being called a “Period Fairy”.

  36. Why would any man carry an ample supply of pads and tampons in his backpack?

    Let’s try and relate this to a more plausible scenario. Do husbands routinely carry those for their wives if they are going on an outdoor trip? And if not…then why would a single man have them on hand for any random woman that he’s on an outdoor trip with.

  37. Ryder says:

    @feministhater

    Having a red pill mindset doesn’t mean being a jerk. If Dave is real, his quick-thinking and empathy suggest that he has sisters and treated this women the way he would treat them. That’s a good thing. The presence of a feminist doesn’t negate the command to “love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”

  38. You’re a virgin Ryder? If you’re carrying tampons and pads around to bless your enemies you’re doing it wrong….

  39. feministhater says:

    Having a red pill mindset doesn’t mean being a jerk. If Dave is real, his quick-thinking and empathy suggest that he has sisters and treated this women the way he would treat them. That’s a good thing. The presence of a feminist doesn’t negate the command to “love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”

    Yes, yes, the need to shame those who do not conform and protect the sisterhood. Still not going to put myself or advise men to put themselves in stupid positions and Dave did exactly that. He wasn’t as quick thinking as he thought, he should learn from his narrow escape and prepare accordingly, he is after all, a survivalist.

  40. feministhater says:

    The presence of a feminist doesn’t negate the command to “love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”

    And does not teaching this woman a valuable lesson of not forgetting her own ‘time of the month’ and to bring tampons in future, make this reason enough? I will pray for her to remember her tampons the next time she goes on a hike…

  41. Quick thinking is a man doing something for a woman that doesn’t normally happen…like let’s say she breaks an ankle on the hike and he has to carry her to safety.

    Not being prepared for that time of the month in which she has known about it since she was roughly 11 shows a complete lack of awareness on her part.

  42. Anonymous Reader says:

    Sanitary napkins are not only useful as emergency bandages, they work for a while as cushions under backpack straps, plus fire starters. A little searching into “ditch medicine” tells me that tampons do serve a purpose in treating piercing wounds, including gunshots. Really serious backcountry types tend to be quite up to speed on “ditch medicine” just in case.

    Any tingle-interest in “Dave” would arise from calm competence, command of the situation: leadership, Alpha, etc. not necessarily the presence of products. But women don’t do well with cause and effect, nor do they understand their own arousal triggers as a rule.

    All that said I still insist there’s a market for “Dave’s Tampons”, fedora optional.

  43. Ryder says:

    @God is Laughing

    Did you see my previous comment? I’m working on the assumption that there are plausable reasons for Dave to carry tampons beyond white knighting. And even if he was carrying them for white knighting, the description of the gear the men of the group carry suggests that they roll with some serious kit, so it’s not like he had tampons in his fanny-pack with some granola bars and a rape wistle.

    Consequently, my argument is that there’s no need to rag on Dave (and I don’t think Dalrock did). That he did something admirable is one of many possible explainations, and it’s lamentable that the story was spun into the “stigma of menstration” narrative. It’s even more lamentable that other men are being advised to add tampons to their EDC so they can be like Dave.

    And yes, the whole story reflects poorly on Jane’s preparedness for adult life.

    @feministhater

    If you honestly believe Dave was in peril by being alone with this woman, I suppose you are correct.

  44. Bruce says:

    “Lol I should link him this thread. Except I just expressed my desire to, and I quote, “Fuck the shit out of him” which might be weird.”

    Huh? Women can’t “fuck the shit” out of men. Men do the fucking, women do the receiving. Why do they talk this way?

  45. Nick Mgtow says:

    I’ll take shit that never happened for 500 Thousands $ , Dave!

    I confronted a chick that was lying to me the same way: told me she was in love because her lover wrote her poetry. I just answered her that I knew he bored her, because when you really like someone, you don’t need to lie about what you like about them…

    First time ever she had nothing to say!

  46. Bruce says:

    “there’s no need to rag on Dave ”

    pun intended???

  47. cynthia says:

    The only men I know who carry tampons are military medics. Those things are sanitized, easy to pack, and the perfect size for plugging bullet holes, or in other words, their original purpose.

  48. Anonymous Reader says:

    Bruce
    Why do they talk this way?

    Because they are strong, independent, self deluded and completely wrapped up in equalism.
    Besides, “all the guys talk that way” and girls want to be “one of the guys” except when they don’t.

    Notice how many women under 30 call each other “dude”? Tamer version of the same thing.

    It’s a reversal of that Henry Higgens speech from My Fair Lady posted a while back; “Why can’t a woman, be more like a man”. Except the girls choose “I’m just like a man when I want to be and a girl when I want to be and you’re NOT the boss of me!” as an option.

  49. Ryder, if you’re carrying around “female sanitary” products and using the “they’re good for other things” as your reasoning I’m not buying it. Quick clot is very effective as are cotton balls and I don’t have to troll that aisle. Your premise is a joke, turn in your man card.

  50. Why do they talk this way?

    It reveals what’s in their heart.

  51. feministhater says:

    If you honestly believe Dave was in peril by being alone with this woman, I suppose you are correct.

    I sure do, squire, #metoo and the ability of feminists to make up stories should tell you all you need to know. If 30 years have passed and an accusation is made against Dave by Jane, it wouldn’t have been the first; and it won’t be the last but of course, as usual, only lowly men are the target of such tomfoolery eh, not good and decent men like you, oh no, never, ever.

  52. Go ahead and pull a tampon out in camp. I dare you dude.

  53. I just answered her that I knew he bored her, because when you really like someone, you don’t need to lie about what you like about them…

    Dang…that was good.

    Basically if you like someone, you like the person. The other stuff they do is just a reflection of who they are.

  54. Heidi says:

    From the original thread:

    “I ask him why he had these, he’s just like, ‘I’ve been hiking with women for years, you think I’m stupid?'”

    So it would appear that a) he was carrying the pads and tampons for their intended purpose, and b) he has no great opinion of women’s ability to think ahead a little. (The post states that the author was 4 days early, which is why she wasn’t carrying anything, but it is rather poor planning not to realize that one’s period can be early. The last time I was in such a situation was when I was 16.)

  55. Annie says:

    I’ve never understood why so many women tell these sort of stories – why on earth don’t they just have supplies with them? The first time will be a surprise, but after that surely anyone with a brain would at least carry a couple just in case. A small pouch can go in backpacks for school and hiking, and there’s even tiny versions that will easily fit in the smallest purse. I’ve had a surprise start while hiking too (two weeks early, which had never happened before) but I was still prepared.

    On another note, I keep reading that tampons are good for bullet wounds. The thing is, they expand as they absorb blood, won’t that cause further damage to the entry wound and make removal difficult? Maybe it’s just a case of better than nothing…

  56. VFM #7916 says:

    I actually keep count for my wife. It’s for purely selfish reasons in that I don’t want to knock her up in any other way than intentionally.

    Plus It allows me to be a rock when she gets hormonally emotional and pre-emptively minimize the ups and downs.

    What I’d like to get my hands on is some of that expanding wound packing material and the applicators they came up with in Iraq for dealing with through and through bullet wounds.

  57. Frank K says:

    Better yet, give her the tampon and tell her to fix herself up and catch up with the rest of the crew who will be waiting for her further up the path. No need to spend five minutes alone with a feminist.

    This,

  58. Anonymous Reader says:

    Earl
    Basically if you like someone, you like the person. The other stuff they do is just a reflection of who they are.

    Yes. See countless examples of bad behavior rationalized away, by both sexes.
    The flip side is: when you do not like someone, everything they do grates or is “just wrong”, etc.

  59. feministhater says:

    On another note, I keep reading that tampons are good for bullet wounds. The thing is, they expand as they absorb blood, won’t that cause further damage to the entry wound and make removal difficult? Maybe it’s just a case of better than nothing…

    It’s there to absorb the blood and stop the wound from flowing to prevent loss of blood. It’s a stopgap measure until you get the wounded person to surgery to remove the bullet, to then perform any other surgery on organs or bones that might have been hit, and then clean, sterilize and close the wound. The expansion isn’t huge and certainly not enough to cause more damage than the bullet upon entry, it’s actually quite good as the tampon would usually expand to the necessary size to cover the wound. The surgeon might need to painstakingly remove some bits of the tampon that are stuck inside the wound after removal of the tampon itself but that’s about the worst. It would be about the same problem for a Doctor as gauze.

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  61. feeriker says:

    Going out on a limb and assuming that this story is true (unlikely, but let’s pretend for a moment), “Dave” was carrying FHPs as part of his FAK. Pads, in particular, are ideal for wound dressings, as any field medic will tell you.

    Little did the author of this piece know that Dave’s first thought, after tending to the retarded little woman-child lacking the maturity to know and tend to her own feminine body functions, was “Oh great. Now I’m short a dressing because this stupid twatlet forgot what time of the month it was. I hope to God no one gets seriously injured on this trek. Who the hell’s bright idea was it to invite women along on this hike in the first place?”

  62. Sunnybutt says:

    I’ve never understood “the stigma of menstruation.” Certainly I’ve never seen a man give a woman a hard time for the period itself. Bodies do gross things sometimes, and we all get that, amirite? Just deal with it behind closed doors or on the bushes over there and get in with living.

    But feminists make a yuge deal about their periods, periodically. I post that the stigma of menstruation is an expression of directionless, meaningless self-hatred.

    I don’t think feminist hater and constrainedlocus can ever hate feminists as much as they secretly hate themselves…

  63. feministhater says:

    I don’t think feminist hater and constrainedlocus can ever hate feminists as much as they secretly hate themselves…</blockquote.

    Wha…!? I will have to redouble my efforts..

  64. Stigma of “menstruation” is from the Torah and even more so from the Talmud….imagine feminists being hung up on THAT.

  65. But feminists make a yuge deal about their periods, periodically. I post that the stigma of menstruation is an expression of directionless, meaningless self-hatred.

    It’s a monthly reminder they are actually women and not men.

  66. Scott says:

    In the Orthodox church, a woman is not supposed to receive the Eucharist during that time. There is also a 40 day period after the birth of a child (or miscarriage) that she is not supposed attend liturgy at all. Our priest strictly enforces the second part, but obviously can’t really know on the first part.

  67. What’s the reasoning for a woman to not receive the Eucharist because of menstruation? The only reason I know of in the Catholic faith not to receive it is because you are in a state of mortal sin or put another way…dead to God’s grace.

  68. SnapperTrx says:

    Maybe off topic some, but my dad has recently been looking at these guys:

    http://www.influencers.org

    Apparently they have some kinds of men’s ministry, but right off the bat they seem suspect to me in that their homepage boasts of a leading those who participate into an intimate relationship (italics their) with Christ along with a shop of “featured products”. Their menu lists things like “The Journey Experience” and talks about men participating in a “treasure hunt” which guides men towards an “inner chamber” (yeah, a lot of quote marks here) and then group sessions for men to discuss their very own Journey experiences. Seems kind of like the standard effeminate, lets talk about our feelings and fall in love with Jesus kind of stuff and I don’t want to get involved. Thing is, I don’t want my dad to get involved either, but don’t know how to explain to him that this kind of feminized stuff is what the church is turning men towards now days. Maybe I am just reading too much into it. Can I get some input from anyone who can look over the site?

    Thanks in advance.

  69. Bruce says:

    “The only reason I know of in the Catholic faith not to receive it is because you are in a state of mortal sin or put another way…dead to God’s grace.”

    And fasted although the requirement these days isn’t very strict.

  70. Damn Crackers says:

    Many religions forbid women from entering holy places during menstruation, mainly because its association with being unclean or impure. Hell, you’re not even supposed to hike on certain Japanese mountains during this time if you’re a woman!

  71. FFY says:

    The is total shitthatdidnthappen.txt, straight from the land of shitthatdidnthappen.txt (Reddit)

  72. PokeSalad says:

    It’s a monthly reminder they are actually women and not men.

    The Lord works in mysterious ways.

  73. stickdude90 says:

    Can I get some input from anyone who can look over the site?

    For starters, a thin white font on a light gray background? Not a good first impression of the site…

  74. FFY says:

    This is goonfic lit from your standard blue haired pansexual fatass Redditor chick (but I repeat myself).

    After being awared (through the yeoman’s work of MPC) of the outright fantasyland goons of both sexes inhabit on the internet, it’s amazing that people spend so much time writing out these obviously fake stories.

  75. Scott says:

    Earl-

    The two canons that clearly forbid it are the Second Canon of St. Dionysius, and Timothy, Archbishop of Alexandria his 18 “question and answer” canons.

    The rationale is one I have struggled with since becoming Orthodox, but I am not an authority, and my priest is. So it mostly comes down to and obedience issue for us.

  76. Many men carry tampons/pads for first aid purposes. Supposedly, they are great for treating gunshot wounds, but I wouldn’t know anything about that, thank God.

    Meanwhile, I’m wondering why bodily functions need to be destigmatized. I don’t want my neighbor Bob taking a leak on my porch any more than I want my other neighbor Betty bleeding on the sidewalk.

  77. Scott says:

    TRP-

    Bodily functions are something people do in private because of aesthetics and hygiene.

    Both of which are remnants of the oppressive hetero-patriarchy that must be smashed. You misogynist.

  78. ‘The two canons that clearly forbid it are the Second Canon of St. Dionysius, and Timothy, Archbishop of Alexandria his 18 “question and answer” canons.’

    @Scott..

    I looked over the Canon one and it seems a lot like OT teachings going into the church about being unclean and touching holy things…it even had the nocturnal emission statement. I guess if that’s what the Orthodox states go with it…but I know nothing of that in the Catholic faith.

  79. Vasilli says:

    Mmm… I’m taking the ’emotionally unavailable’ option on this scenario, thanks…

  80. Scott says:

    Earl

    When I find myself scratching my head in bewilderment over texts that I might interpret differently than the authorities I stuff it and obey.

    It’s something I constantly work on as a former seminary trained Protestant.

    Pouring over texts and confronting other Christians with my personal interpretation is something I never found edifying even back them. You’ll notice I almost never do that here.

    Ironically it was two Catholics who got me thinking this way. Zippy and a catholic priest I met during my conversion.

    Zippy says that all the complaining we do about our terrible leaders misses the point that we actually are a bunch of terrible followers.

    And that priest said to me “the biggest problem Christians have is an obedience problem.”

    I don’t like the canons on several things. Then, I obey.

  81. Scott says:

    It’s ultimately why Mychael is pregnant again.

  82. @ Scott…

    I understand. Although it does seem like unnecessary burdens put on women especially, all of those rationales from what I understand came from more of the OT law than anything. This is the basic when you can’t receive the Eucharist for Catholics:

    ‘As Catholics, we fully participate in the celebration of the Eucharist when we receive Holy Communion. We are encouraged to receive Communion devoutly and frequently. In order to be properly disposed to receive Communion, participants should not be conscious of grave sin and normally should have fasted for one hour. A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to receive the Body and Blood of the Lord without prior sacramental confession except for a grave reason where there is no opportunity for confession. In this case, the person is to be mindful of the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition, including the intention of confessing as soon as possible (canon 916). A frequent reception of the Sacrament of Penance is encouraged for all.’

    http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/order-of-mass/liturgy-of-the-eucharist/guidelines-for-the-reception-of-communion.cfm

  83. Scott says:

    I understand that the magestrriim has gone in s different direction from Orthodoxy on a number of things. But they don’t have canonical jurisdiction over me.

  84. After being awared (through the yeoman’s work of MPC) of the outright fantasyland goons of both sexes inhabit on the internet, it’s amazing that people spend so much time writing out these obviously fake stories.

    It’s what happens when you’re real life stories aren’t all that exciting or internet worthy.

    I’d guess 85% of the commentator’s stories over at Heartiste’s site are purely made up.

  85. FFY says:

    @earl

    It’s what happens when you’re real life stories aren’t all that exciting or internet worthy.

    I suppose, but I just fail to understand it when it’s all tied to your Reddit username and you will presumably be anonymous forever.

    Back in the day Bronan (another manosphere writer) and I would call out wannabe PUA bloggers we caught embellishing or outright lying, and at least I can wrap my mind around that since those posers were trying to further fame and fortune through their lies.

    I must not be goony enough to understand the benefits of spending an hour+ writing fake anonymous stories on Reddit.

  86. Scott says:

    Here is what it looks like when the mother and baby are “churched” (welcomed back) after 40 days.

  87. I must not be goony enough to understand the benefits of spending an hour+ writing fake anonymous stories on Reddit.

    I don’t get it either…but then again I didn’t get it when I met those people in my life who I knew were telling embellishing stories to others and they still did it anyway. Perhaps they get some rush out of it.

  88. key says:

    Anonymous Reader – cash and prizes poast

    “Dave’s Outback Tampons” for the win

  89. gunnerq says:

    Scott @t 2:57 pm:
    “And that priest said to me “the biggest problem Christians have is an obedience problem.””

    Was that priest a child rapist or merely a defender of them? It’s one of the two if he believes disobedient followers is a worse problem than disobedient priests.

  90. feministhater says:

    When I find myself scratching my head in bewilderment over texts that I might interpret differently than the authorities I stuff it and obey.

    It is easier to go with the authorities. They have your best interests at heart.

  91. Spike says:

    The “stigma of menstruation” is the newest feminist straw man. Not being able to defeat logic via the now-debunked Gender Pay Gap, having lost ground on Domestic Violence (those pesky phone cameras and You tube are a bitch), we’ll out comes this.
    It might seem like a safe place to retreat to, since men don’t do it. In truth however, if a woman does not know/forsee/understand THIS about herself, how stupid is she? And nothing of course says, “Strong and Independent” than a handout. Those handouts include tax-free sanitaries and contraceptives, just like it does a borrowed tampon.
    Our mother’a generation, oddly, never seemed to have this problem. But then again, the dignity of Western Christian culture and it’s horrible patriarchy were at their height, weren’t they?

  92. BillyS says:

    I would use the discussion between Scott and Earl as an example that those following either the RCC or the Orthodox Church should lay off slamming Protestants of various stripes, at least as a general issue.

    I don’t recall either of them doing that much, but anything with men involved will have some odd things. Major problems should be withstood, but things like this should be mostly ignored.

    It does illustrate why I am highly unlikely to ever return to the RCC or come into the Orthodox Church, but that is not all that important either way in my view.

  93. earlthomas786 says:

    In truth however, if a woman does not know/forsee/understand THIS about herself, how stupid is she?

    It’s never about the personal stupidity of the women…it’s about the men they can blame it on.

  94. Anonymous Reader says:

    key
    “Dave’s Outback Tampons” for the win

    The local food co-op would sell those. Happily.

  95. Anonymous Reader says:

    Spike
    The “stigma of menstruation” is the newest feminist straw man.

    It’s a re-run from the 70’s. I think it was a chapter in “Our Bodies, Our Selves” but not sure. If the Redditor was more crunchy she would have had a sponge or a rubber cup to go on and on about instead of Dave’s Outback Tampons.

  96. Novaseeker says:

    I understand that the magestrriim has gone in s different direction from Orthodoxy on a number of things. But they don’t have canonical jurisdiction over me.

    It isn’t just women either. Keep in mind that the canons also forbid a man from receiving the Eucharist if he has had a seminal emission since midnight (including an involuntary one), for the same reason as the fast and the ban on menstrual women. In praxis, the advice given by many Orthodox priests is to avoid sex on Saturday evening as well, although that isn’t widely followed. After midnight, though, is a no-no, just as eating and drinking after midnight are.

  97. Alessandro Giuliani says:

    It could also be that “Dave” had tampons and pads as hiking first aid supplies. They’re often used as great blood absorbents for cuts and wounds. Perhaps he just thought quick of it and made use.

  98. info says:

    @God is Laughing
    ”Stigma of “menstruation” is from the Torah and even more so from the Talmud….imagine feminists being hung up on THAT.”

    There is also a stigma of excrement. Wonder why they didn’t mention that.

  99. Pete Vidins says:

    Back in school, we went ok a hike at a camp. Before we left, the hike leader stopped everyone and held up a bag. He was a fairly ‘outdoors’ type, and not one to mince his words. He simply said ‘this is the girlie bag. If you need shit from it, I’ve got it’. ‘Nuff said.

    Dave sounds a well-prepared hiker who anticipates certain possibilities, and comes prepared with multi-use equipment . I think Jane is reading waayy between the lines, and ultimately, a very unprepared hiker. I’m yet to meet a grown woman who doesn’t keep a stash of products in her handbag for such an event.

    I found myself eye-rolling through the whole original article.

  100. Scott says:

    Nova-

    Yes, I have received that instruction as well. I think what is notable about all those teachings is that priests, even mine, don’t really talk about them unless you ask. I think this is true with Catholic priests as well. In other words, most parishoners do whatever they want (birth control. receive communion without confession, whatever) and there is a sort of honor system. But I also think that even the weakest priests, when pressed, will dispense the teachings correctly.

    This is where Mychael and I are in our Orthodox praxis. We ask our priest very specific questions, and its like he can’t believe we want to know. And then he proceeds to tell us, and there is a sense that he has no reason to believe we will follow through. Kind of like, “well, the official position of the church is X, so I am supposed to tell you that.”

    Its not quite that bad, but do you know what I mean?

    Then, when we come back and say, “based on what you have told us, we have gone permanently off birth control.” And he is genuinely surprised. This does not make us “better” Christians, but we literally take his word as authority on these matters, even when it is very scary to have a 44 year old pregnant wife. It is entirely on faith that we are doing this.

    Now, as to the broader matter of my conversation with Earl. I am probably the most “ecumenical” [sort of] trad-Orthodox you will encounter around here. And not just because Dalrock has rules about it. He does, and I respect that.

    But I would encourage anyone reading along in that conversation to assess it from the beginning. Someone asked about “stigma of menstruation” and politely offered what my church teaches. No proselytizing, no hard sell. Then another confessional faith Christian offered a critique of the teaching, from the RC position. Both churches follow essentially the same canons. They call it the Code of Canon law, we call it The Rudder. But if I did not make it clear, I believe Earl should follow the teachings of his Church, the magesterium and all the authorities over him. He will not have sinned if he does that.

    My critique of protestantism is quite mild, if you read back. In seminary, and in every Bible study I have ever been in over the first 43 years of my life, beating each over the head with Greek verb parsing and hermeneutic debate over what some word means in historical context left me flat. That was my experience, and it is baked into the cake of that flavor of Christianity. And I think it is a pretty accurate depiction. I used to think it was “iron sharpening iron” and all that. And I just got tired of it is all.

    But I would encourage my protestant brothers to do the same thing I encourage Earl to–obey the teachings of the authorities in your church. Are you Methodist? What does the Methodist church teach about communion? Do that. Are you Baptist? Do that.

    But I think it is OK for me to point out in writing, and with the video I posted the beauty in the way a woman is treated in our faith tradition regarding her female cycles and pregnancies, etc. I am, after all Orthodox.

    Now, this brings me back to the point I was making with Novaseeker at the top of this comment. I wonder–and this is a big “IF”

    What happens when a man in a protestant church backs the pastor in to a corner? Say “TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT TO DO IN THIS SITUATION, PASTOR JIM! No more wishy washy female worship! The weird coded stuff you exposit from the pulpit is to vague. Am I required to ask single mom X on a date? Must I do the dishes if my wife is too tired?”

    I really don’t know. But if protestant ministers are anything like Orthodox/Catholic priests, it seems once cornered, they are obligated to dispense the truth, even if they whisper it in your ear where your wife won’t hear it. If not, and you simply cannot abide by the teachings, then pray and go looking for another church.

  101. rocko says:

    Mind you, I’ve never carried tampons for a girl, heavens forbid. But once while on a movie date with my ex fiancee, we had to detour to Target so I could buy her tampons because her period came and she was unprepared. I didn’t mind then, because, you know, chivalry, but also I was leasing a car at the time. In case I had to return it, I would not want a giant blood stain on the seat, not to mention I would not want to have someone call the cops on me, as if I murdered someone.

    Now years later, and after reading this, my sympathy level is down. Simply put, my ex had a job as a manicurist at a high end salon/spa that paid her $9 an hour plus tips, which is really damn good considering that most girls in the beauty biz have to make do with jobs where they solely make a living on commissions. Plus she still lived at home in her middle twenties in a household where mom and dad paid a lease on a brand new Dodge Nitro, not to mention her sisters also got new cars. And she kept bragging how she made more money than me as a young Airman (I was in my second year of enlistment when this happened) to the point of her suggesting that she take care of my finances. And yet, she couldn’t pay for a box of feminine hygiene products. And btw, her finances were horrible. Her mom still managed her accounts and she and her sisters drowned in debt, to the point mom had to pull hustles selling food and taking out mortgages. And her dad was crippled by his work as a diesel mechanic to where he couldn’t walk without a cane. Good man, but he got beat down by the women in his family. And all these women had feminist ideas ingrained in their minds. Yet they can’t pay for tampons. Good grief.

  102. mrteebs says:

    Do these “Janes” not understand just how much of a turn-off it is when they swear like sailors? Oh, I forgot – they are sailors now.

  103. desiderian says:

    “I used to think it was ‘iron sharpening iron’ and all that. And I just got tired of it is all.”

    The Refiner’s fire is all you need.

  104. Mark says:

    @Dalrock

    One of your more “interesting” posts I must say!……..””He pulls out three tampons, the good kind, and a handful of wet-naps.””………Wtf?………if this story is true….and I assume that it is not.This guy would become the laughing stock among his peers.No guy with any self respect or dignity carries tampons with him.Except,as stated above a military medic.I have the million dollar question….and that is. Did he be the magina,”period fairy” that he is and do the noble thing and insert the tampon on her behalf?…..I would not expect anything less from such a loser!

  105. Spike says:

    Anonymous Reader says:
    October 27, 2017 at 6:39 pm
    Spike
    The “stigma of menstruation” is the newest feminist straw man.

    It’s a re-run from the 70’s. I think it was a chapter in “Our Bodies, Our Selves” but not sure. If the Redditor was more crunchy she would have had a sponge or a rubber cup to go on and on about instead of Dave’s Outback Tampons.

    AR:I’ve heard of the menstrual cup just this year when two university student interns were talking about them. I’m not sure if they’re catching on, but if they are, well, Dave the Tampon Fairy is about to go the way of the dinosaur…

  106. Anubis says:

    Whether or not the story of Dave is real, I see what’s has all the girls going ‘squeee’ over its retelling, and it’s something that Rollo and others have pointed out many times.

    You see Dave “just gets it”.

    He didn’t have to be told what was going on, He figured it out without prompting and drove the line of questioning directly to the conclusion. He displayed an Alpha-esque command of the situation and just got busy ‘fixing it’ with a minimum of drama while the narrator just stood there stammering. A very masculine thing to do, removing all the burden and risk from her, and gave her the tingles.

    According to my wife, who is very traditionally feminine, I ‘get sh*t done’, and I always seem to be a step ahead in being prepared. And she likes it a lot, and sometimes she get tingly over it. Nothing unusual there to me. I have have a home and a business to take care of and I don’t care to spend my time debating, discussing, or making sure what I do is politically correct for the myriad of things that aren’t a big enough deal in the scheme of things. Basically an attitude similar to Dave: See problem, Fix problem, Get on with things.

    It not so much about the feminine hygiene products, but having a man there acting like one and solving her problems without her having to spit it all out and ask for it.

  107. Hmm says:

    @Scott:

    With the 40-day “waiting period” before the new mom can enter the sanctuary, does that mean the child is not baptized until then? Or is that done by just the father?

  108. Scott says:

    Hmm-

    The ideal appears to be about 4-12 months, and a child in poor health can be baptized inside the 40 days, for obvious reasons.

  109. Novaseeker says:

    With the 40-day “waiting period” before the new mom can enter the sanctuary, does that mean the child is not baptized until then? Or is that done by just the father?

    Like Scott says, it is usually done after the 40 days, although I have seen it done right around the same time fairly often. Keep in mind that Orthodox baptism is not just a baptism — it’s full Christian initiation, which includes being fully chrismated (babies are anointed with chrism all over their bodies) and receiving the eucharist in the liturgy that follows, so it’s a bit more involved than what most Western Christians consider as baptism.

  110. Novaseeker says:

    Its not quite that bad, but do you know what I mean?

    Scott —

    Yes.

    My “worst” encounter with this was when I was still catholic and I tried to confess the sin of using artificial contraception. The priest was not having it. “Well, it isn’t really a sin for most people … well, that’s what the magisterium says, but you should do what you think is right and not worry about confessing that ..” and so on it went for 5-10 minutes. And I was *confessing* it … he didn’t want to hear it. So it kind of went backwards over the line you’re speaking of, directly into “well this is the “official teaching”, but ….” territory.

  111. earlthomas786 says:

    And I was *confessing* it … he didn’t want to hear it.

    I had a similar type of explaination one time from a priest when I was confessing a sexual sin. We have to remember there are some corrupt clergy in the church, but that doesn’t mean what the church dogma has stated has changed.

  112. earlthomas786 says:

    It not so much about the feminine hygiene products, but having a man there acting like one and solving her problems without her having to spit it all out and ask for it.

    I’m surprised she didn’t call him a misogynist for poking a hole in the whole ‘strong, independent, empowered’ feminist narrative. Either way this whole Marxist thought infiltrating the sexes and marriage has really turned what we traditionally do for each other upside down.

  113. Hose_B says:

    @EarlThomas
    There’s the line that likely makes this a fantasy. Does any guy know what ‘the good kind’ is? I doubt I can even name more than 1 or 2 brands.

    Any sane male knows “the good kind”. Brand is unimportant……….how fancy is the box? Is it plain cardboard that just has “tampons” written on it? Or is it full color printed, shiny packaging.
    This works for two reasons…….if it’s in shiny packaging it probably is actually better than the basic generic…………and if it’s in shiny packaging women THINK it’s “the good kind” no matter what’s in the package

  114. Mandy says:

    Is Dave a paid guide getting a tip at the end? If so its plausible

  115. seventiesjason says:

    ……..is it morning already? Got home at 3:30am (DJ’d an awesome set and a half for the monthly soul night / stomp and got PAID too)……now at work. Man…..ears still ringing…..hit the floor and danced hard while I wasn’t spinning…..but I did play ‘Jesus Is Waiting’ from 1973 by Al Green when I first opened my set……….

    Look, IF Dave is real……I can see where a man like that would carry these products. Many folks have mentioned that an outdoor type of guy may have them on hand……a prepper of sorts…..though I am a serious hiker / backpacker and a former Scoutmaster and this is the first I heard about these products being in the manners mentioned.

    However Dave being portrayed by the “heroine” of this “story” is probably self projection of sorts…….you know “if all men were actually like Dave……we girls would not have any problems! He’s everything a man should be! Where are the real men like Dave? If only men actually were like Dave!”

    The problem is the same in our Christian culture with women. I’ve heard enough “lamenting” of “where-the-real-Godly-guys-are” and “how come men don’t want to be men today?”

    whereas it should be changed to: Where are the Godly men that I am attracted to??????

    This woman who wrote this “loved” being cared for, pampered and rescued by Dave…..but still if she doesn’t have that instant “spark” it just “won’t work” ever! In the end she used the “a nice guy but…” excuse

  116. feministhater says:

    I had a similar type of explaination one time from a priest when I was confessing a sexual sin. We have to remember there are some corrupt clergy in the church, but that doesn’t mean what the church dogma has stated has changed.

    This is why I don’t believe in confessionals. It’s a waste of time. If I truly feel repentant about a sin I committed, I will kneel and pray for forgiveness and mean it. That to me is all there is to it. If God knows I truly have repented, by his Son, Jesus Christ, he forgives my trespasses. I would add that if you can go and ask forgiveness from the one you have wronged, you should do so also but in the great scheme of life, getting God’s forgiveness for being a sinner is far more important to me than confessing to a priest.

  117. feministhater says:

    Where are the Godly men that I am attracted to??????

    With women and men, you must always add ‘attractive’ to any list of qualities that they want in a spouse. It’s really not out the realm of reality and is to be expected. The key is to know your level so as to be able to navigate in a pool of potential spouses and be attractive to them.

    The problem you’re actually acknowledging is that the vast majority of women have overvalued themselves and thus only find the most attractive men, attractive, and rule out any other men who might be at their same level of attractiveness as not being worthy of her.

  118. feministhater says:

    I’m surprised she didn’t call him a misogynist for poking a hole in the whole ‘strong, independent, empowered’ feminist narrative. Either way this whole Marxist thought infiltrating the sexes and marriage has really turned what we traditionally do for each other upside down.

    It all depends on the emotion she is feeling at that time. If the story is real, she was feeling emotionally vulnerable and thus like a child, needing the help of a prepared adult. If she were feeling a different emotion at the time she would have reacted differently and called him a sexist pig for not minding his own business and she could very well handle her own business without his toxic masculinity turning her into a child that needs his protection and provisioning – thank you very much!

  119. Sertorius says:

    The best part of this story comes later in the actual Reddit thread, when commenters ask why the poster said she wasn’t interested in marrying or dating “Dave” (although she did say she would have sex with him). She talks about their interests being different, and then says when their group was learning how to shoot guns, Dave was clueless, and thought all guns were pump action.

    Lol.

  120. earlthomas786 says:

    I will kneel and pray for forgiveness and mean it. That to me is all there is to it. If God knows I truly have repented, by his Son, Jesus Christ, he forgives my trespasses.

    It’s good you have the desire to repent…but that’s not how Christ set it up as the means of forgiveness of sins.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+20%3A20-23&version=NASB

  121. feministhater says:

    It’s good you have the desire to repent…but that’s not how Christ set it up as the means of forgiveness of sins.

    The Lord’s Prayer is a means of asking for forgiveness of sins, known or unknown, that we have committed. No priest is required.

  122. OKRickety says:

    Scott,

    “What happens when a man in a protestant church backs the pastor in to a corner?”

    “But I also think that even the weakest priests, when pressed, will dispense the teachings correctly.”

    “I think what is notable about all those teachings is that priests, even mine, don’t really talk about them unless you ask.”

    The above suggests that pastors, priests, et al are not teaching the full and complete truth of the Scriptures unless they are directly asked. If so, it is little wonder that the Church and its members are failing to be what God desires.

    “… but I am not an authority, and my priest is. So it mostly comes down to and obedience issue for us.”

    While I recognize authority, I do not believe in blind obedience. The church authorities are not exempt. We are warned about false prophets and false teachers in 2 Peter 2:1-3. The Apostle John, in 1 John 4:1, tells us to not believe every spirit but test them to see if they are from God. I am certain that all of the readers are aware of the egregious instances of “Christian” leaders both sinning themselves and teaching others false doctrine.

    “… I believe Earl should follow the teachings of his Church, the magesterium and all the authorities over him. He will not have sinned if he does that.”

    What is the basis of saying that one cannot sin if he is following the teachings of the authorities? I cannot think of any scriptural basis.

  123. Scott says:

    O’rickety-

    To get into a discussion about a scriptural basis for my assertion is to rehash for the millionth time a debate about sola scriptura, which I roundly reject.

    And that, i am pretty sure is the kind of stuff Dalrock doesn’t really like.

  124. earlthomas786 says:

    No priest is required.

    I see…so you are going to skip over the biblical context I provided. Good luck.

  125. earlthomas786 says:

    This woman who wrote this “loved” being cared for, pampered and rescued by Dave…..but still if she doesn’t have that instant “spark” it just “won’t work” ever! In the end she used the “a nice guy but…” excuse

    Yeah I truly think the whole ‘spark’ thing is overrated. Sparks only start the fire, they don’t keep it going…and sparks burn out fast. However in this Disneyfied-rom com generation we’ve grown up in many women think that’s the foundation of romance or love. That’s why ‘I’m not haaaaaapy’ is the basis for a lot of divorce.

    I like it better when the male authority in her life made the decision on who she was to marry. He didn’t base it off sparks…but merit. God and her father work better at discerning than her feelings.

  126. feministhater says:

    And when He had said this, He showed them both His hands and His side. The disciples then rejoiced when they saw the Lord. 21 So Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you; as the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them and *said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, their sins [a]have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained.”

    I see…so you are going to skip over the biblical context I provided. Good luck.

    Yes earl, all non-catholics go to hell. We’ve covered this already.

    I don’t see that the quote you provided says I need to confess to a priest. I could be stuck in a wasteland, thousands of miles away from any town or city, condemned to hell for not being forgiven my sins, even though I prayer to our Lord for his forgiveness till my death bed.

  127. OKRickety says:

    feministhater said:
    “It is easier to go with the authorities. They have your best interests at heart.”

    Sure, it’s easier to go along with the authorities. But is that wise?

    I doubt anyone here would say that all authorities have your best interests at heart. For example, the government. I know it should be true for spiritual authorities, but is it?

  128. earlthomas786 says:

    I don’t see that the quote you provided says I need to confess to a priest.

    Christ gave the authority to forgive sin to His apostles and this authority has been past down through Apostolic succession. That’s where their authority to forgive sin comes from. Why would Christ give them that authority if all we have to do is pray the sins away?

    And as far as condemning to hell…only God does that.

  129. feministhater says:

    Christ gave the authority to forgive sin to His apostles and this authority has been past down through Apostolic succession. That’s where their authority to forgive sin comes from. Why would Christ give them that authority if all we have to do is pray the sins away?

    And as far as condemning to hell…only God does that.

    That is indeed your reading of that passage. It is not mine. Mine is that once you receive the holy spirit and pray for forgiveness of your sins, God forgives your trespasses. Christ gave them, as the first apostles, the ability to go spread his word so that all may know.

    You words condemn for your words state quite clearly that if I don’t get forgiveness from a priest from your catholic church, the sole owner of the apostles, then I cannot be forgiven and then you state ‘good luck’ as in ‘good luck with that but it won’t work’ thus I go to hell for those with sin who are not forgiven, go to hell.

  130. earlthomas786 says:

    Mine is that once you receive the holy spirit and pray for forgiveness of your sins, God forgives your trespasses.

    Except that’s not what the bible passage states. I said good luck because you have your own religion and code of conduct that you follow.

  131. feministhater says:

    Sure, it’s easier to go along with the authorities. But is that wise?

    I doubt anyone here would say that all authorities have your best interests at heart. For example, the government. I know it should be true for spiritual authorities, but is it?

    It’s another of those contradictions in the Bible that cause me greats amount of confusion and there really is no good answer. The Bible says to obey all authorities, both church and government, for all authority is derived from God and God given, then also tells us to watch out for those who are wolves in sheep’s clothing and not to believe them but to question them. You work out that conundrum and get back to me

  132. OKRickety says:

    Scott,

    To get into a discussion about a scriptural basis for my assertion is to rehash for the millionth time a debate about sola scriptura, which I roundly reject.

    I will presume that you cannot provide a scriptural basis for your assertion, but the basis is instead, I suppose, in “The Rudder”. In effect, you have answered my question. If my presumption is incorrect, please tell me. For what it’s worth, and you can believe it or not, I have no interest in a debate about sola scriptura, My question was only intended to increase my understanding of the Orthodox perspective.

  133. feministhater says:

    Except that’s not what the bible passage states. I said good luck because you have your own religion and code of conduct that you follow.

    Earl, we’re not going to agree here. Never have and never well. Your church believes it has sole authority on these matters and meanders along the lines of what happens to those that don’t believe in the same. It never used to be so and stated quite clearly that if you don’t believe in the catholic church, you go to hell.

    No, when you write a sentence like ‘I see…so you are going to skip over the biblical context I provided. Good luck.’ the context is clear. You’re stating that I’m not listening to your biblical context so ‘good luck with that’. Why not just stand by what you state?

  134. modgrit says:

    In the past, when I was single, I have done this very same thing for women when the occasion presented itself, but I have seldom received a response as grateful as the one described. The response I was most often given was one of jealousy or suspicion. In either case, they always asked me where I got the tampon/pad, thinking that it belonged to another woman. (No, other guests at my parties left them behind in the bathroom, and I saved them for future guests.) In other cases, my attention to the matter brought mainly embarrassment to the lady. So this story makes me wonder what kind of woman this is, what kind of man he is, or whether the story is really true. (Since I got married, I bring it to my wife’s attention and let her offer the assistance.)

  135. seventiesjason says:

    I am a man who practices “sola scriptura” or as Marin Luther put it once “Das Wort!”

    Sadly, and regretfully most protestant pastors, and too many in the flock don’t follow this. They “claim” they do, but they will hang on every word a pastor says. In sola scriptura, you are to “test” by your own reading, your own study, your own prayer life and in the body itself. You are to pray before you read His Word. You are too be in a frame of mind and be “teachable” but pastors for the most part today use this as the excuse of they know more than you, just because they are a pastor. They will debate and hair-split over the exact meaning of a word, just like the “teachers of the law” did in Christ’s time. Self-righteous, and so full of themselves and their own “methane” it’s no wonder they don’t sprout daisies. If I do have a criticism of protestantism today…it is the ten trillion different “translations” of the Bible. I use the King James. But you know….that’s “too hard” to read today.

    I am still shocked on how few protestants actually “read” the Bible. They wait til Sunday when the pastor discusses a verse or a few. Heads all nodding. Ten thousand times “No!” I say. In true protestantism you are to be held accountable for your continued obedience to Christ.

    I was raised culturally “preppy Catholic” (Church of England). My Polish side of my family is Catholic. Some devout. Some lukewarm. Some lapsed (like my father). Some culturally-Catholic.

    The Catholic / Protestant divide in the USA today isn’t as wide as it used to be. I mean, I met with Father Garcia over at “Catholic Charities” a year or so ago. He’s my age, and it was a strange sight for me to be sitting in his office having coffee. He in his priestly vestments, and I in my Salvation Army uniform. We both laughed and said “In 1960 this would not have happened!”

    We were coordinating my Boy Scout Troop and the local Knights of Columbus Boy Scout Troop that his local Dioces chartered.

    I will disagree with my Catholic brothers and sisters. This is a fact. But I also count MORE for the fact of: Do we read the same Bible. Do we believe that Christ died and rose on the third day? Do we believe He was fully God and fully man? Do we believe in the Trinity? Do we believe He is the way, the truth, and the light?

    We do?! Good. Everything else can be politely discussed, and in eternity I think both will be surprised at what some of the real answers are!

  136. feministhater says:

    I would just like to state that there is a error in one of my above responses.

    I cannot be forgiven and then you state ‘good luck’ as in ‘good luck with that but it won’t work’ thus I go to hell for those with sin who are not forgiven, go to hell.

    The second ‘go to hell’ shouldn’t be there but for some reason my brain thought I hadn’t posted it at the beginning of the statement. It’s not me stating that earl should ‘go to hell’ just hoping that is clear.

  137. earlthomas786 says:

    Why not just stand by what you state?

    You mean ‘extra Ecclesiam nulla salus’, “outside the Church there is no salvation”.

    The 1997 Catechism of the Catholic Church explained this as “all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body.” There’s the explaination behind it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Ecclesiam_nulla_salus

    Why won’t you admit you are following your own religion or church?

  138. feministhater says:

    I follow Jesus Christ. That is all and it’s enough for me. The only way to God is through him.

  139. Gaza says:

    These fake stories are instructive. Of course not in the way intended. No doubt that when crafting this vision of “Dave”, she visualized a physically attractive man. Not just a handsome face either, but a man of action and a man that indeed “just gets it” – as mentioned upthread.

    So guys, if you are going to play captain save-a-menses, *be attractive* or else this story reads as: “creepy nice-guy hiker crosses the menses line and made me uncomfortable” aka another male who doesn’t know his place, another creepy nice-guy trying to get into my pants.

    Dave is just a vehicle for the death cult messaging, reinforcing the inversion of values. Modesty and shame are devalued in the same vein as beauty is devalued in favor of ugliness. As Spike mentioned, [the “stigma of menstruation” is the newest feminist straw man.]

    There is natural beauty fertility; the female cycle is life-giving and cannot be ugly, but it can certainly include aspects that are not pretty. Similarly, the cycle of converting elements of our environment into essential nutrients and energy is also life-giving and beautiful. But the digestive cycle is not pretty.

    We can acknowledge both for what they are, but we needn’t elevate them beyond the confines of the personal, beyond our modesty and shame. The key difference here, of course, is that while everybody poos, only women menstruate. So, as usual, it is about power: the aspiration of power seeded by envy.

    Instead of embracing their unique, god-given power of fertility, the fem-progressives choose to embrace resentment. In the usual dissonance-inducing envy-resentment cycle they desire to be both special and ordinary. They want their menstruation to be sacred but also so common as to be co-managed by men at any given moment.

    At the same time, they want the option to retreat into victim/safety/protected spaces vis a vis their menstruation, but they also want it to be “no big deal.” The arbiter being (of course) their feelings at any given moment.

    The shame I speak of is that tendency to conceal those things like sexuality and other “natural” processes, not because they are inherently bad or ugly, but to ensure that they don’t overshadow our dignity as persons.

    The modesty I speak of needn’t be prudish or ignorant, but it protects that same dignity by preserving those things – both beautiful and not-so, to the personal chambers of our lives. Doing so as an individual affirms dignity, collective dignity is affirmed via common decency.

    Just as common courtesy has been refracted by the prism of their dissonance into a thousand splinters of circumstance, e.g. “Am I supposed to open the door for them or not?”, common decency is fractured into increasingly ugly and preposterous expectations placed on others in order to assert their misguided power.

    Here, the femprogressives would have us believe that our dignity flows not from within – not as a reflection of a divine gift, but rather as a function of aspirational power incited by envy.

    Our dignity holds no intrinsic value so it doesn’t need to be protected and preserved. Instead it needs to be acquired (extrinsically) by demanding others to “respect” the increasingly twisted rules of engagement required to prop-up their delusional hierarchies.

    As for camping, hiking, traveling etc. I have often had a woman accompany me who is “experienced” in these matters. But for nearly all of them, things like camping just ‘kinda happens’. As in, they show up with their stuff, but the rest (provisioning, planning, mapping, contingencies, etc.) come from the same magic place where men lurk and work but are never seen. This is just the burden of performance at work, but it does make me chuckle when I hear women talk of their love of “camping” or somesuch. Its like how they love food. Food planned, grown, sourced, cleaned, prepared, and served (by someone else.)

    As for the boy scout motto, I keep a “bitch basket” in my bathroom where free samples, left-behinds and the like are stowed, e.g. hair-ties, deodorant, tampons, smelly lotions, and other gay stuff. When a lady is over and needs something I tell her to check the bitch basket. Its part boy scout part pre-selection that gets the hamster going. But then again, I’m attractive. So I may be getting away with something not advisable.

  140. earlthomas786 says:

    I follow Jesus Christ. That is all and it’s enough for me. The only way to God is through him.

    Then I’ll ask a rhetorical question…what is keeping you from coming home to His church?

  141. feministhater says:

    Then I’ll ask a rhetorical question…what is keeping you from coming home to His church?

    Only you and catholics believe this. His Church is far more than just the catholic church. You can ask the same question for Scott, Dalrock, or Jason or any other non-catholic here. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light, not your church.

  142. feministhater says:

    But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

    7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

    8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

    9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

    10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

    11 Give us this day our daily bread.

    12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

    13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

    14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

    15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

    I’m ending it with that Earl. I do not wish to go any further, it is pointless. You believe one thing and I believe another. Go well on your journey.

  143. Westray says:

    Rollo has been talking about the concept of ‘creepy’ as well lately. Could mean quite a lot of things. One possible meaning is a guy who is misreading his own SMV by several points and still putting himself out there. Not in the way of brazen overconfidence though, just “Hi, Can I buy you a drink?” creepy.

    I’ve encountered women who have no idea of how unattractive they are as well. A few times they’ve made a play at me. A half-bald girl, semi-insane girl is one example. A morbidly obese, insecure, pie-faced Pacific Islander is another. I’ve been polite and very considerate as far as giving their ego a way out of the situation. It’s as simple as “I’m sorry. I’m in a long distance relationship. I’m flattered though.” Simple respect. Why not? Why kick them when they’re down? There might be a handful of supermodels who have never experienced rejection in their life. Everyone else has. Everyone knows that feeling so why turn the knife? The idea of turning around and treating them as if they are ‘creepy’ or somehow simply bad people is just so far from the appropriate response. Yet it is the go-to response of our ‘better halves’ when some guy falls for them and doesn’t make the right read. NOTED.

  144. earl says:

    Jesus is the way, the truth and the light, not your church.

    Then ask Jesus why he made Peter the rock on which he built His church. It’s not my church…it’s His church.

  145. Westray says:

    “The “stigma of menstruation” is the newest feminist straw man.”

    Bingo. Thanks for not calling it a red herring, btw. (Oops. Hard not to flick that chip off the shoulder though.)

    I’ve never even seen an incident of public menstruation and I certainly wouldn’t shout a woman down for it or point and laugh. The search for new veins of faux indignation is becoming surreal.

  146. earl says:

    I’ve never even seen an incident of public menstruation and I certainly wouldn’t shout a woman down for it or point and laugh.

    I’ve only seen photos of the mentally ill ones who use the blood for ‘art’. Other than that I think most mentally sane women don’t want to bring any more attention to it than they have to.

  147. BillyS says:

    Lay off it Earl.

    Then I’ll ask a rhetorical question…what is keeping you from coming home to His church?

    Many take issue with that. Jesus said He was building His church on a big rock, not the little rock Peter. Study the text a bit more if you are going to push that. Though also find a forum for that.

    We could have a huge debate on the RCC here, but that is outside the scope and would not be productive at all.

    I was raised in the RCC and reborn while still attending, but I do not find it to be Scripturally consistent enough to stay with it. Pursue what you want, but you lack the strong foundation you think you have with your claims.

  148. earl says:

    Many take issue with that. Jesus said He was building His church on a big rock, not the little rock Peter. Study the text a bit more if you are going to push that.

    Where did Jesus say that? Where’s this ‘big rock’ that you speak of?

  149. PokeSalad says:

    Appropo of nothing, but I just had the following statement made to me from a single mom:

    “So I’m 40 years old – that means guys my age are going after 30 years olds. I only get hit on by 50+. Ugh sorry but no thanks.”

    *shrug*

    Carry on.

  150. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    As I posted in a previous thread, Game of Thrones actress Lena Headey has Tweeted about her brave fight against “period shame”: https://twitter.com/IAMLenaHeadey/status/918049443064221696

  151. PokeSalad says:

    Scott:

    My prayers to you. I am awed at yours and Mychael’s faith. It is inspiring to me. I am humbled.

  152. Opus says:

    It’ll soon be All Hallow’s E’en and then on the fifth of November Guy Fawkes Day aka Bonfire Night and the purpose of the bonfires – apart from enabling us to keep warm as we set off the fireworks – is to incinerate effigies of Roman Catholics usually of the Bishop of Rome. Bonfire Societies are part of the culture.

    I don’t think whatever the Catholic/Protestant arguments above (which are somewhat lost on me presumably because there are no true Protestants in England) that Americans come anywhere close to the hatred are rather anywhere close to the delight in pretending to put Catholics to the flame as they do in England – and amazingly it is still legal. Of course, it has nothing much to do with religion as such but more a hatred of foreigners (as most of the ones we dislike tend to be of the Roman persuasion).

    We only do it once a year.

  153. Women’s need for competent men is literally coded into their DNA. Considering this woman was in her luteal phase of her ovulatory cycle it’s no wonder she’d be attracted to his actions that implied competency and security.

    https://therationalmale.com/2017/06/30/competency/

    Had she been in her proliferative phase I doubt his having tampons on hand would’ve made the same impression. Side note: if she’s in menses what the fuck is she doing without her own tampons?

  154. feeriker says:

    “So I’m 40 years old – that means guys my age are going after 30 years olds. I only get hit on by 50+. Ugh sorry but no thanks.”

    Another entitled skank who has ZE-RO understanding of the SMP (i.e., that 50-plus-year-old guys ARE her assortative matches in the marketplace).

    You might want to start clipping cat food coupons to give to this woman. She’s going to need them.

  155. earl says:

    Another entitled skank who has ZE-RO understanding of the SMP

    I wouldn’t expect nothing less from a single mother.

  156. feeriker says:

    Side note: if she’s in menses what the fuck is she doing without her own tampons?

    Which circles us back to the question of “can this woman really be considered a functioning adult if she can’t manage a naturally recurring bodily function that has been a regular part of her life since early adolescence?”

  157. earl says:

    Had she been in her proliferative phase I doubt his having tampons on hand would’ve made the same impression.

    Well yeah, she most likely wouldn’t have needed them at that point and a guy who wants to flaunt his tampon game would come off as creepy. This story is really more about the lack of preparedness the woman had in her (possible) made up story.

  158. American says:

    Or, just enjoy the hike. Go your own way and let nature take care of itself. Oh, I know I’m supposed to feet guilty here for saying that but after the tidal waves of radical feminism and alt-left insanity toward me (up to and including seeking to use government power to persecute the moral on behalf of the disordered immoral) and hatred (which has no bottom apparently); I just don’t care.

  159. Scott says:

    O’rickety-

    Let me explain a bit further.

    The difference is related to the concept of scripture itself. It does not occur to Orthodox or Catholics to proof text verses from the Bible because the Bible is part of Church tradition.,

    It is the church who gave the Bible, and the homilies and the canons an all else that we now hold as sacred.

    Therefore the idea of obedience to properly constituted authority is not found in a book, chapter and verse format. Although there are plenty of scriptures that lead us in that direction.

    It’s a difference in orientation to scripture.

  160. I see the logic of the post. But the supposed workaround to the problem of female nature is not convincing to me (harangue warning). I hope to rescue someone who might take the following to heart:

    “The lesson is to be a strong man who effortlessly and unapologetically takes charge of the situation, whatever that situation may be.”

    *shm* Terrible advice, especially in decline, for two reasons:

    There is no way for a man to ‘be strong’ and ‘effortlessly take charge of the situation’ all the time every time in any zeitgeist. It’s an impossible standard that if met would make pointless the woman’s role helpmate. Life is scary hard, I mean just look at all the mollifying narratives you debate. Only the unapologetic part is correct. Men putting men before women a la the patriarchy is certainly unapologetic, and what it takes to have stable nuclear families as the norm. Oh, well. This is decline, where conflict beats cooperation. The proof is the direction of change, the wake of the power, the reality. Unilaterally forcing ‘cooperation’ by taking all the responsibility is an incredible blunder, as I know too well. And it’s intellectually dishonest. The only way to take charge as a general rule is to not get involved in social situations where you do not have control, which most of the time is essentially MGTOW.

    Furthermore, women (and those men who are also without philosophical minds) have no moral qualms. The sexy man of the OP fantasy will IRL become the target of sexual harassment and assault charges, etc. Just give it enough time. ‘Take charge of the situation’ when the police come. Sure. The game of decline is patronage war: who can get the monopoly of violence on her side. Women double dip, triple dip, but always betrayal dip to tear down others to gain relative rank and status in the moment. Exhibit A: Ashley Judd. You can name more exhibits if you try.

    If you, good sir, don’t know I’m right, you are not logical but emotional and reflexively need your whichever go-to narrative that soothes you in this nasty, nasty world with life the likes of Ashley Judd and more. If you want to attract women, plump value and, as if you have a choice, show exploitable weakness. They come running with big smiles and promises.

    Identity politics works because men fall for narrative arguments again and again. Serfs be serfs, ever since the late Roman Empire. You just don’t appease enough, my good men. You can actively care about anyone with enough creativity and toughness, really. The cardinal rule of ZFG is a lie. Violate it all you wish with your True Knowledge. Act as if you were a patriarch when you haven’t a clue, but she does. I’ll watch the schadenfreude. To me you will always have value. I won’t pretend that to put family first men must put their respective women after their fellow men in reciprocity. If it cannot be done with reciprocity, pretend you have a family like you pretend you have culture and tradition. Maybe you will get lucky. Everyone knows that family values means making your wife and children #1. Their needs come first, and she’ll tell you what they are by manipulating your emotions. You just can’t give too much. Your son will thank you for the example he must become.

  161. feeriker says:

    There is no way for a man to ‘be strong’ and ‘effortlessly take charge of the situation’ all the time every time in any zeitgeist. It’s an impossible standard that if met would make pointless the woman’s role helpmate.

    From a woman’s perspective, that’s the whole point: women these days have no desire whatsoever to be helpmates. In fact, the very notion that they’re supposed to contribute anything at all to a marriage is an idea patently offensive to most of them.

    The good news, if you can call it that, is that more and more men are waking up to the realization that Western women today are nothing but (additional) burdens in a man’s life, and potentially dangerous ones at that. Not only do they NOT add anything positive to a marriage, but in fact pose a very real danger of taking away/destroying what a man already has. Even the most beta/delta of men are FINALLY coming to realize this.

    On a related note, the most heartwarming thing I’ve seen in a long time:

    While driving downtown this afternoon, I passed a bridal shop with a “GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE” sign on it. Here’s to hoping that they still don’t unload anything in significant quantity, even at fire sale prices, and that the remaining inventory on closure day winds up in a thrift shop at give-away prices (and STILL not sell).

  162. @feeriker, that IS heartwarming.

  163. Moses says:

    Yeah, fiction.

  164. Moses says:

    The 2016 election (and since then) showed me how often writers and reporters just make stuff up. So much easier than waiting for interesting things to happen.

  165. Hmm says:

    My take on “the good kind” remark is simply that it wasn’t the kind you get for a quarter in the women’s room at the gas station.

  166. earlthomas786 says:

    The only way to take charge as a general rule is to not get involved in social situations where you do not have control, which most of the time is essentially MGTOW.

    Yup…there’s a time and a place to take charge.

    From a woman’s perspective, that’s the whole point: women these days have no desire whatsoever to be helpmates. In fact, the very notion that they’re supposed to contribute anything at all to a marriage is an idea patently offensive to most of them.

    It’s what happens when they get away from their God given purpose. Marxist thought has really done a number on both sexes and their roles especially in marriage. The whole point of it is to destroy the marriage/family unit.

  167. earlthomas786 says:

    Not only do they NOT add anything positive to a marriage, but in fact pose a very real danger of taking away/destroying what a man already has.

    Starting off with their base attitude which is shaped more by encouraging them to rule over their husband/men instead of their God given role of being the helpmate.

    Add on top of that many are on birth control and get fed the idea that motherhood is seen as a failure. Promiscuity is seen as empowerment except in reality it lessens their chance to pair bond with their husband and threatens their fertility with a myriad of diseases. Their greatest contribution to the world of giving birth and raising the next generation is replaced with the thought their career is more important. Helping out financially is ok…helping a man build a family is much more worthwhile.

  168. @feeriker Women can always buy the dresses to marry themselves, like that Italian woman.

  169. Dave’s Outback Tampons…..No Rules, Just Roight

    BUT…..not a peep about them being responsibly sourced, sustainable made, free range, gluten free, and all that crap. However, i did not read the comments. Bet they are in there, OR, Dave was so cool he bought them at Whole Foods….er I mean Amazon

  170. MrTweell says:

    I keep two pads in my car kit, they make a great large bandage when teamed with duct tape. Thankfully, they’ve never been used for that purpose. The one time I provided one to a woman, she firmly placed me in the Friend Zone.
    If you don’t want to be an emotional tampon, don’t stock the real thing.

  171. earl says:

    OT: ‘Science finds 1,500 genetic differences between boys and girls, destroys ‘transgender’ arguments’

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/researchers-find-over-1500-genes-that-make-men-and-women-different

    ‘Scientists have uncovered 1,559 genetic differences between males and females that relate not only to the sexual organs, but surprisingly to other organs such as the brain, skin, and heart.’

    Not surprising to the mentally sane…blows apart a lot of the mentally insane rationalizations.

  172. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    ‘Science finds 1,500 genetic differences between boys and girls, destroys ‘transgender’ arguments’

    No, because the trannies distinguish “biological sex” from “gender identity.” And all those genes “merely” pertain to biological sex.

    Trannies go on to say that biological sex is irrelevant, and that gender identity is what really matters. Why? I guess, just because.

  173. Sunnybutt says:

    OT, fellas. Found out today that a buddy of mine just woke from his blue pill dreams. Bad business.

    Never forget that the Red Pill saves lives, Men.

    On topic, @ Earl:

    Silly Earl. Science is for people who believe an objective reality exists. The trans have, well, transcended facts.

  174. OKRickety says:

    Scott,

    “It’s a difference in orientation to scripture.”

    That’s a huge difference, and there is also a huge difference in orientation to “tradition”, and the authority of the church and its leadership. I’ll stick with my beliefs.

    Thanks for the additional information. (For what it’s worth, I think I have avoided debating sola scriptura, etc.)

  175. Ferriker,

    On a related note, the most heartwarming thing I’ve seen in a long time:
    While driving downtown this afternoon, I passed a bridal shop with a “GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE” sign on it. Here’s to hoping that they still don’t unload anything in significant quantity, even at fire sale prices, and that the remaining inventory on closure day winds up in a thrift shop at give-away prices (and STILL not sell).

    That is ALL brick-and-mortar retail. All retailer stores are going out of business. Ours is an Amazon order on line, world. That said….

    http://www.ocregister.com/2017/07/14/wedding-gown-chaos-as-alfred-angelo-closes-all-stores-heres-what-brides-to-be-can-do/

    ….moral to the story? Don’t be an ignorant peasant person that lives check to check to the point where anything you buy must be purchased on layaway! Either buy it and walk out of the store with it, or don’t buy it. No deposits. That is soooooo 1950s, so 3rd world.

  176. feeriker says:

    From the article linked by IBB:

    Her $1,800 dress, a strapless white gown with a full skirt and beaded bodice, was paid for and at the shop to be pressed for her wedding Saturday, July 15.

    Paying $1,800 for a dress that you’re going to wear once and only once is the epitome of idiocy (I’ve told my fiancee that her dress expenditure for our wedding has a ceiling of $500 – and we’ve found beautiful dresses that more than fulfill the purpose that are available for less than that). Also, I’d bet that this woman has no business wearing white anyway, but that’s a whole ‘nother rant.

    I probably have no business feeling this way, but seeing these women’s preparations for their The-Day-I’m-the-Center-of-the-Universe/Queen-Bitch celebrations getting pissed on/torn to shreds fiils me with a nice warm and fuzzy. I’m not sure whether I should be feeling sorry for the schlubs that are tying the knot with these women. No doubt this turd in the punchbowl will result in them becoming emotional punching bags for these bridezillas.

  177. With respect to article linked by IBB, to recap, all those ‘young’ women who worked so hard for the money to pay for their gowns can’t afford to buy an alternative gown without a refund, but daddy goveymont gives dems lenders da first dibs on da business corpse and the ppl from the corpse-to-be did not let on that the closure and cut-off would happen, like is the standard way to treat ppl when women are liberated and caustic and use that exact same manipulation standard. And we know the politics because it’s all in Southern Foulie Calie. Is the marriage market so tight women will pay for the gown themselves, really? Ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaa…….[many harmonic echos chime in]…..[still going]…….[still funny]…..[’cause just deserts is a dish best self-served cold]…muah, ha-ha…etc., etc.

  178. feministhater says:

    For Redlands bride-to-be Brenda Taylor, 37, the frustration and disappointment have led her to consider canceling her July wedding next summer.

    Hopefully it will be called off indefinitely. What a waste of money and time wasted on a 37 year old.

  179. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    I just learned something new.

    I learned that “it’s important that girls be empowered through skateboarding.”

    As this video shows, all too often when a new skateboard park opens, boys get to skateboard first. But at this new park in Manhattan Beach, CA, girls get to skate board first. And that’s “important.”

    It’s “important” because when girls see other girls skateboarding, then they too want to be “empowered through skateboarding.” And that’s “important.”

    Until I saw this valuable video, I did not realize that boys were oppressing girls in the world of skateboarding, by denying them the “empowerment” that comes through skateboarding.

  180. earlthomas786 says:

    “I worked so much overtime just to pay for that. That’s like $1,000 gone, Taylor said. “I’m almost to the point where I’m saying forget the wedding.”

    That’s got to make her fiance feel good.

    Nothing like a business closing to bring the truth out of the woman.

  181. Lost Patrol says:

    Until I saw this valuable video, I did not realize that boys were oppressing girls in the world of skateboarding,

    Skateboarding has to be the final item on the oppression list, and we can just calculate that boys are oppressing girls in every aspect of life in the known universe.

  182. PokeSalad says:

    That’s got to make her fiance feel good.

    Nothing like a business closing to bring the truth out of the woman.

    There’s been several articles and so on in recent years discussing another perversion of marriage in the current age is the glorification of the wedding ceremony (bride, really) itself, to the exclusion of all else….including the marriage itself – glorious, overwrought spectacles that would embarrass Cecil B. DeMille himself. Thus, we have $100,000 wedding ceremonies for marriages that won’t last five years.

    This woman, as you say, is revealing that truth – the ceremony (in other words, the deification of the bride ALONE, since the groom in a ceremony is an afterthought) is much more important to her than her actual marriage.

  183. AnonS says:

    Let me explain a bit further.

    The difference is related to the concept of scripture itself. It does not occur to Orthodox or Catholics to proof text verses from the Bible because the Bible is part of Church tradition.,

    It is the church who gave the Bible, and the homilies and the canons an all else that we now hold as sacred.

    Therefore the idea of obedience to properly constituted authority is not found in a book, chapter and verse format. Although there are plenty of scriptures that lead us in that direction.

    It’s a difference in orientation to scripture.

    “Let me explain a bit further, Jesus.

    The difference is related to the concept of scripture itself. It does not occur to Pharisees to proof text verses from the Torah because the Torah is part of Jewish tradition.

    It is the Jewish authorities who gave the Torah, and the homilies and the canons an all else that we now hold as sacred.

    Therefore the idea of obedience to properly constituted authority is not found in a book, chapter and verse format. Although there are plenty of scriptures that lead us in that direction.

    It’s a difference in orientation to scripture.”

    Part of me really wants to be Orthodox because other churches seem even more cucked but the entire old testament and what Jesus did was a warning to tradition adding to what was written. In every case 200 years was more then enough time for tradition to depart from what was given by God. I’m only aware a single fragment for “traditional” Orthodox practices like prayers to Mary going at the earliest to around 200AD, while we have tons of manuscripts for the New Testament where apparently important practices are nowhere to be found (only hinted at, maybe).

    It is just assumed that tradition gave the Orthodox church the ability to declare what is new tradition. While the new testament only repeats “do not depart from what we teach” “receive and transmit”. The entire point of writing things down is to prevent changes and additions over time.

    If we write a state constitution, we don’t call the constitution just part of our countries “tradition” and therefore the role of the Supreme Court is to decide what tradition now is based on the “principles” in the text. It is a binding contract. But we have no examples in history (that I can think of) of written rules not being changed or reinterpreted to extend beyond author’s intent over 200 years.

    A study of psychology shows how rapidly new practices can spread. All it takes is one successful and powerful person to try something new and then tell people “I prayed to Mary and was healed” for it to quickly become tradition once everyone starts doing it. To assume that because everyone does it in the third century, it must be traced back to the apostles seems to me to be ignorant of history and psychology.

  184. seventiesjason says:

    When I was a bartender at the night club atop a very swanky San Francisco hotel, I was at times sent to bar tend weddings at the mezzanine level (large banquet area). Over and over again the management staff from the sales rep to the banquet manager: “This is HER day (the bride), we have to make sure she is pleased with everything. Our references, recommendations, and gratuity depends on her happiness!”

    As head bar tender at many of these weddings. I would just politely nod at these comments, but MY supervisor always told me in these situations: “Your first task is to find out WHO is paying for the alcohol. You butter that person up. You inform them when supply is low, or if they would like to extend the hours of the bar…….the banquet department always forgets in these situations is that the alcohol sales makes THEIR profit. Treat the person who pays for the alcohol as your customer.”

  185. gunnerq says:

    seventiesjason @ 9:17 am:
    “Your first task is to find out WHO is paying for the alcohol. You butter that person up.”

    Like the catchphrase for Sam Adams beer, always a good decision.

  186. “Spike says:
    October 27, 2017 at 6:15 pm
    The “stigma of menstruation” is the newest feminist straw man. Not being able to defeat logic via the now-debunked Gender Pay Gap, having lost ground on Domestic Violence (those pesky phone cameras and You tube are a bitch), well out comes this.
    It might seem like a safe place to retreat to, since men don’t do it. In truth however, if a woman does not know/forsee/understand THIS about herself, how stupid is she?…”

    Modern feminist women are willfully foolish enough to the point that they are either ignorant of, or refuse to acknowledge that their fertility is at it’s peak in their mid-twenties, and tapers off after that. Instead, they think and believe that they’ll be fertile well into their 40’s and possibly beyond, all because ‘some woman somewhere’ in the late 1800’s had a child in her fifties (nevermind the fact that such pregnancies and births usually occurred only to a minority of women at that time, and those women were pregnant and gave birth for the first time in their late teens to early twenties).
    Modern women being consciously aware of the relatively short time of their lifespan that they have to bear physically and mentally healthy children, would upset the feminist narrative.
    There are MANY barren Western women who now bitterly regret being deceived about their fertility by the claims of feminism.

  187. Unfortunately, I’ve come across this situation repeatedly with various women – high school, college, and even the workplace where I’ve helped them out.
    Not a single case did I have any intention of sexual compensation.
    Just my normal Bluepill, honorable knight routine.

    But what has always been striking to me is how often this happens.
    As a frequently traveler on airlines and in trains, I do recommend everyone double check the seats. For all of the “my body my decision” vitriol, it’s clear that enough women don’t know their own bodies at all, are poorly prepared and can’t count for shit.

    So it’s little wonder to me anymore how and why so many women would also forget to take their own birth control.

    Either way, today we have apps like Clue to help track a woman’s cycle and avoid such embarrassing mishaps and the unnecessary soiling of underwear, dresses, slacks and furniture.
    I recommend husbands and boyfriends out there download it an use it as well.
    Check the waste baskets for the indicating packaging wrappers and record the data.

    It’s a great tool to inform you when to leave town.

    And for the bluepill white knights, I suppose it can inform him when stock up on maxipads and tampons to earn the unending favor and affection of those appreciative, feminist damsels in menstrual distress. Maybe.

  188. earlthomas786 says:

    This woman, as you say, is revealing that truth – the ceremony (in other words, the deification of the bride ALONE, since the groom in a ceremony is an afterthought) is much more important to her than her actual marriage.

    It makes me wonder if that is their intention…why they just don’t marry themselves.

    Oh wait!

  189. BillyS says:

    Earl,

    Where did Jesus say that? Where’s this ‘big rock’ that you speak of?

    Realize that the Bible was not originally in English and you may understand more.

  190. BillyS says:

    Scott,

    It’s a difference in orientation to scripture.

    That would be the exact issue. Believing that the Scriptures were made by men would lead to the RCC or Orthodox approach/view. Believing God used men, but controlled the process would lead otherwise. The traditions of men have their own problems as well of course, but the focus on which is more important IS the key issue.

  191. BillyS says:

    Earl,

    I am not sure this link will work, but look up the verse and open the tools for it if not:

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/16/18/t_conc_945018

    Why would Jesus use 2 different words for “rock” if they were not different?

    (That is a rhetorical question. I do not desire to argue it here, just note it.)

  192. Oscar says:

    OT:

    Jeremy Omori, “a graduate student at the University of Arizona recently published his thesis, arguing that gaming culture “privileges cis, heterosexual, and hypermasculine men.”

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10049

    What kind of man thinks gamers are hypermasculine? Maybe he has a future at Buzzfeed.

    “The normal testosterone level for an American male is a range anywhere from 270 to 1070 ng/dL with an average of 679 ng/dL.

    When a crew from Buzzfeed got their testosterone levels checked as part of an investigation into male attractiveness, 3 out of 4 were apparently low:”

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57587

  193. Hmm says:

    Off-topic, but (true) words of wisdom from Doug Wilson, about the schizophrenia in our “national morality”:
    https://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/alice-down-the-wormhole.html

  194. David says:

    You can’t make this up :

    Femtwat in Salon : “Lets ban men from workplaces.”

    Yes, she is actually serious.

  195. Lost Patrol says:

    @Oscar

    “When a crew from Buzzfeed got their testosterone levels checked as part of an investigation into male attractiveness, 3 out of 4 were apparently low:”

    Oh well, judging by that photo at least they took the news like men. Har! Snort!

    @Hmm

    Pretty good Wilson article. I pointed out to a pastor just the other day how much of his female flock had showed up in painted on jeans and yoga pants. He was rendered speechless and I think embarrassed by the observation, which wasn’t my intent; but I’m not letting these things go by unremarked any longer.

  196. feeriker says:

    Femtwat in Salon : “Lets ban men from workplaces.”

    Hey, as a man, I’m all for it. I would LOVE to watch DehStrongEmpoweredWomenz run the world allbydemselvz – just as long as I can sit back and watch at a safe distance (say, from Pluto).

  197. Scott says:

    That would be the exact issue. Believing that the Scriptures were made by men would lead to the RCC or Orthodox approach/view. Believing God used men, but controlled the process would lead otherwise. The traditions of men have their own problems as well of course, but the focus on which is more important IS the key issue.

    Sort of, but we believe in inspiration too. Its just that collecting and collating those writings and correspondence was a function of the church. Its what the church “did.” Therefore, it follows that what the church did vis a vis collecting sacred passages was also divinely guided. It also follows that other things the church did (canons, homilies, traditions, etc) were divinely guided, and this process continues to this day.

    The hierarchy is what seems peculiar to protestants, as it did to me. Scripture is at the top of that hierarchy because the proximity of those who wrote it to Christ. But the consensus of latter giants is pretty important too, and illuminates passages that may sometimes be hard to apply in modern times, and so on down it goes.

    So the question becomes, if the church had the authority to tell us moderns which books belong in the Bible, what else can we rely on them for? The protestant position appears to be “nothing.” Just collating the books and the rest is unauthoritative opinion.

    And that’s fine, but its just not what we believe.

  198. SnapperTrx says:

    I think we would all be better served by using the word they are covering up with “empowerment”: Reprogramming.

    In fact, every time I see the world “empowerment” when used in reference to women/girls I am going to translate it as “reprogramming” because, really, that’s what it is. Sure some girls are rough and tumble and would love to go out skateboarding, but its important that those who don’t get their “empowerment” (reprogramming) from seeing those girls participating in the activity and then being shamed for not liking the same.

  199. Anonymous Reader says:

    @Hmm
    Wilson’s article is adequate. I guess in the bubble where he resides (yes. It is a bubble.) he’s being bold and plain speaking. But his confusion over women and their desire for fried ice shows up multiple times; yes, she’s wearing yoga pants with nothing under them deliberately (ovulatory phase most likely) because she wants to be seen, no she’s not wearing them for you . The concept of AF-BB, that women want to ride a carousel pony then fall into the arms of a beta – it’s not even in his mental universe. He’s sorta kinda a little closer to reality, that’s good, but it’s like watching an inchworm climb a skyscraper.

  200. feministhater says:

    Hey, as a man, I’m all for it. I would LOVE to watch DehStrongEmpoweredWomenz run the world allbydemselvz – just as long as I can sit back and watch at a safe distance (say, from Pluto).

    At this point, anytime a feminist advises some outrageous ideal, I tell them to ‘go for it’. It’s like the gift that keeps on giving. Do they really think men want to work in the insane asylum that is the corporate office these days? “Do it, lady!” is my response now, just wish they would follow up with their insane ideas.

    They just must not complain when the money stops and the freebies stop and they have to pay for everything.

  201. @David,
    As for that Slate/Salon article from Ruth Graham, we already know the outcome for when you remove men from the societal equation. The women end up squabbling, rudderless, shivering, hungry, dehydrated and desperately seeking feminine hygiene products. The guys end up rediscovering their masculinity, form a meritocracy and build places for young princes, noblemen and kings.

    I would also like to gently remind Ms. Ruth Graham that Donald Trump won her state of New Hampshire.

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  203. gunnerq says:

    Scott @ 3:11 pm:
    “So the question becomes, if the church had the authority to tell us moderns which books belong in the Bible, what else can we rely on them for?”

    The standard for the canon was selecting writings authored by those God taught directly and that could be sourced back to the author. That was scholarship, not authority. The council was not picking and choosing between competing theologies, declaring in God’s name which ones were right. Dalrock did the exact same thing when he exposed the introduction of feminism into the latest NIV translation.

    As for why I was unpleasant, I don’t know what else you might have expected when you jabbed at Protestants on a Protestant’s blog. You disrespect us while trying to convince us our beliefs are wrong then complain when I disrespect you back.
    https://gunnerq.com/2017/10/28/protestants-are-not-ashamed/

  204. Scott says:

    Excuse me, I thought this was an ecumenical blog, hosted by a protestant.

    If I have “disrepected” you by describing my 40 year experience with protestantism (completely accurately, in several denominations) than you have very thin skin.

    I said that what I remember was parsing Greek verbs and trying to win arguments with other Christians all the time in Bible studies. And that I found to not be very edifying.

    Thats it.

    Is that disrespect?

  205. Scott says:

    In other places i have described my great admiration for the protestant love affair with the Bible, –the ability quote long memorized portions of it–their openness to hearing others views. I miss the music, the fellowship, yet all you read is that I somehow shoving it down others throats.

  206. Scott says:

    I suspect this is the “jabbing” and “disrespecting” paragraph:

    My critique of protestantism is quite mild, if you read back. In seminary, and in every Bible study I have ever been in over the first 43 years of my life, beating each over the head with Greek verb parsing and hermeneutic debate over what some word means in historical context left me flat. That was my experience, and it is baked into the cake of that flavor of Christianity. And I think it is a pretty accurate depiction. I used to think it was “iron sharpening iron” and all that. And I just got tired of it is all.

    This was my personal experience. Grew up in the Church of Christ–twice on Sundays, every Wednesday night until I was 30. The elementary school I went to was Southern Baptist. Bible study every week, chapel every morning. My seminary was General American Baptist. Same thing. Constantly arguing about every single subtlety and nuance. All about my Strongs concordance and this word meant such and such in this or that historical context so you are wrong. Then we attended a Methodist church for a years. I was an elder in a PCUSA church. Then a PCA Church. Always the same.

    Are you refuting my personal experiences, or just pissed that I had them?

    Is protestantism above even the slightest critique? Does it have any responsibility for how I (and others) were turned off by the bickering that is inherent to a belief in individual interpretation as the final authority?

    I understand that some people love that kind of conflict because they belive it makes them better able to defend the faith. And that is fine. Its just not for me.

    Its not all bad, but its not a perfect expression of the Christian worldview. No church is.

  207. feministhater says:

    I don’t think Scott jabbed at Protestants at all. Merely conveyed his experience whilst being one. I think we all have shared a displeasure with the experience of a different denomination and if Scott is fine in following his Church, that’s his business. He has his family to mind and that is his focus, not a debate over Scripture. I get that completely.

  208. Scott says:

    FH-

    LIke I said–are you Methodist? Then follow the teachings of the Methodists. Are you Baptist? Then try to obey their teachings. If you can’t, start looking somewhere else.

    Its very painful to leave a church. My church of Christ family all think I am apostate.

  209. earlthomas786 says:

    In fact, every time I see the world “empowerment” when used in reference to women/girls I am going to translate it as “reprogramming” because, really, that’s what it is.

    I was calling it brainwashing…but reprogramming is also brilliant.

  210. earlthomas786 says:

    Hey, as a man, I’m all for it. I would LOVE to watch DehStrongEmpoweredWomenz run the world allbydemselvz – just as long as I can sit back and watch at a safe distance (say, from Pluto).

    @feeriker

    Yeah but you’ll know what’ll happen if that ever does become reality. They’ll blame men or the invisible patriarchy for leaving them all to themselves when it comes crashing down. The whole wanting the cake and eating it too for these mentally ill women can’t ever be pointed out as a fallacy.

    But his confusion over women and their desire for fried ice shows up multiple times; yes, she’s wearing yoga pants with nothing under them deliberately (ovulatory phase most likely) because she wants to be seen, no she’s not wearing them for you.

    @Anonymous Reader

    She wants to be seen by the RIGHT man, not any man…which is again the fried ice, cake and eat it too fallacy. But when the bug of women worshipping themselves and not God is encouraged, celebrated, and promoted…this is what you get.

  211. BillyS says:

    Scott,

    Sort of, but we believe in inspiration too. Its just that collecting and collating those writings and correspondence was a function of the church. Its what the church “did.” Therefore, it follows that what the church did vis a vis collecting sacred passages was also divinely guided. It also follows that other things the church did (canons, homilies, traditions, etc) were divinely guided, and this process continues to this day.

    Then I may have somewhat misunderstood your post. I would then challenge what should be done when what is written in the Scriptures conflicts with tradition. I believe you would indicate that tradition (or what the elders say is likely more accurate) is more important, or at least that it is what interprets the Scriptures, rather than us seeking to understand and apply the Scriptures.

    I am not sure if I mucked that all up, but hopefully it makes sense. I clearly disagree on some things, but I am more trying to state things rather than to argue them with you at this point.

    So the question becomes, if the church had the authority to tell us moderns which books belong in the Bible, what else can we rely on them for? The protestant position appears to be “nothing.” Just collating the books and the rest is unauthoritative opinion.

    I can’t answer for anyone else, but I believe what we have now is what God intended. That does not put anyone in charge of things today however, even if God used specific men (flawed as they were) in the past.

    Its very painful to leave a church. My church of Christ family all think I am apostate.

    What I have heard about the Church of Christ is that many of them think all not in their church are reprobate, so I would probably fall in that same category for them, even though I never was part of their “church”.

    I may think you are a bit errant, but that is not my choice to make. I believe we at least are in general agreement on core issues. God will work out the rest as He wishes.

    ====

    One of the key problems in modern society is that we have lost the ability of many men to fully respect each other, even if they disagree strongly on certain points.

  212. craig says:

    BillyS says: “Why would Jesus use 2 different words for “rock” if they were not different?”

    What are the grammatical requirements within a gendered language? (That is a rhetorical question. I do not desire to argue it here, just note it.)

  213. Caspar Reyes says:

    I think Doug Wilson articulates well some things that needed to be articulated. The comments are useless as usual. He should ban female commenters.

  214. Anonymous Reader says:

    The comments are useless as usual.

    The conservative feminist Jill’s first comment can be reduced to NACWALT, which isn’t even an argument, it’s just a squawk. Deranged feminist Bytes melted down after one comment. I seriously question her mental stability now.

  215. Red Pill Latecomer says:
    October 30, 2017 at 3:34 am
    … I did not realize that boys were oppressing girls in the world of skateboarding, by denying them the “empowerment” that comes through skateboarding.”

    As far as feminists, their operatives in the media, and their ‘Useful Idiots’ (male and female) in the general population are concerned, boys and men ‘oppress’ girls and women EVERYWHERE and ANYTIME, just by existing; they don’t even have to be present — because then it’s caused by the Great Unseen ‘Patriarchy’.

  216. BillyS says:

    Craig,

    What are the grammatical requirements within a gendered language? (That is a rhetorical question. I do not desire to argue it here, just note it.)

    I have never heard that argument made, even from RCC apologists, so I would question that I would apply.

  217. ACThinker says:

    Others have mentioned the tampons for bullet wounds that medics carry them for. I know a guy who was in country that said their medic typically wnet out witha lot attached to the vest for quick dispensing. In a hiking situation, it could be someone is thinking of a fall and puncture wound.

    Oddly enough, the old pads (we are time capsuling back to the early 60’s here) were used with the old backbacks to give padding on the straps. They would be taped on with duck tape. The old packs from the late 50’s and 60’s (and earlier) had no padding for the shoulders, or other points of contact like the lower back. So pre manufactured cotton products – ie pads – were used as an inexpensive way for the hiker in those days to modify the pack straps to something more comfortable.

    I’m not sure why a person woudl include pads in their First Aid kit, unless they were just trying to cover all the bases. But I can see tampons being of use for smallish punctures, like falling on a stick that is pointed up or something.

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  219. MaMu1977 says:

    Alpha-“use this and keep on moving.”
    Beta-“I understand that you’re in some kind of way and that your glorious woman time is upon you, so I made sure that I could help you in your ever moving forward quest towards empowerment and fulfillment.”

    Men don’t comfort, they fix. Men get laid.
    Girls comfort and slide. Girls get screwed.

  220. feeriker says:

    Deranged feminist Bytes melted down after one comment. I seriously question her mental stability now.

    If you’re talking about InsanityBytes22/GG/yttiK (I guess she’s run out of avatars and is just going by “Bytes” now), then yes, she most definitely is a few gigabytes short of a full hard drive. Wilson’s site and those like it are probably just about the only places she can comment anymore. She’s been banned from just about every site and blog in the manosphere.

  221. feministhater says:

    Don’t forget her best name yet, feeriker… ‘MeMe’! Took all the guess work out when determining her level of sanity, or really in honesty, her level of insanity. Dame’s a mess. She serves as a warning though so she at least has a use.

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