Gone Fishin’

I’ll be taking a blogging break over the next few days. I’ll turn moderation on in a bit and will take it back off on Monday.

Oct 23: I’m back. Default moderation is now off.

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  3. greenlander says:

    Did you catch any fish?

  4. Chad says:

    Saw this article (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kim-cattrall-says-she-apos-170304276.html) and thought…this is just so typical. An aging actress blames the successful show she was on for not having children. Now, she’s an aging spinster “mentoring” young actresses. This is her way of being maternal.

    Sadly, it reminds me of my mother, who frivorced my father, and years later wanted to be a speaker at Christian women’s conferences. Though charismatic, she hasn’t found a following. I’ve said to her face she has no place advising women on anything. Fortunately, she’s given up being a “speaker” but there’s definitely a market for women like my mother, ready and willing to spread the word about their mistakes and drag other “sisters” down with them. Miss Cattrall is happy to do the same.

    All this is to say, welcome back Dalrock.

  5. feministhater says:

    https://mg.co.za/article/2017-10-19-high-court-strikes-down-corporal-punishment-defence-for-parents#comment_thread

    Just another reason I will not get married nor have children. Yep, it is now illegal to smack your own children in South Africa. Once again the state is removing the authority of the parents to raise their own children as they see fit. To provide proper chastisement on their children to restrict them from committing dangerous or destructive acts.

    Of course it’s a female judge and as always now the parents are left trying to find new ways that don’t work properly to discipline their children.

    Keightley said that parents who did hit their children would not be criminally charged “willy nilly”, but would be diverted to existing intervention services. At the same time she found that the state should be “empowered, rather than shackled, by the arsenal at its disposal to investigate, prevent and protect children from harmful and potentially harmful situations”.

    The court had been considering an appeal by a man identified as YG against his conviction in a magistrate’s court for assaulting his son and wife. YG said he had caught his 13-year-old son surfing pornography after circumventing their home internet security system. As a religious Muslim man, YG said, he felt it important to teach his son that pornography is wrong

    So… because some muslim man assaults his wife and child, the rest of the parents now have no right to spank their children. Oh, and of course they will not charge parents ‘willy nilly’, it’s not as if things don’t have unintended consequences like evah… ;or completely foreseen consequences as I know these dipshits know exactly what will happen and how to use it to subvert the family even more as they did with no fault divorce and feminism before it.

  6. feministhater says:

    Check your spam bin Dalrock. Thanks

    [D: Found it.]

  7. earlthomas786 says:

    I’ll bring up something personal…my grandfather passed last week and we had a Catholic funeral and buried him today. Married for 70 years, 4 kids, 8 grandkids, WW2 vet, and always had a story to tell. A lot of my father’s parenting skills came from him and he was certainly someone I looked up to.

  8. gunnerq says:

    Not many WW2 vets have lived this long. Got a story you can share about him, Earl?

  9. Boxer says:

    I wondered why the internet was so dead. Welcome back. Hope you landed some large ones.

  10. Spike says:

    earlthomas786 says:
    October 23, 2017 at 2:51 pm
    I’ll bring up something personal…my grandfather passed last week and we had a Catholic funeral and buried him today.

    Condolences, Earl.

  11. seventiesjason says:

    Very sorry of the passing of your grandfather Earl. I lost mine in 2001. I still at times get all misty eyed over him. He was best grandfather a boy, teenager and young man could have had! He served in the British Army. Survived a Japanese POW camp, and didn’t need a “therapy dog” to get on with his life. Very sorry for your loss. The Greatest Generation is almost indeed “gone” now!

  12. earlthomas786 says:

    Got a story you can share about him, Earl?

    He was engaged 8 times before marrying my grandmother. Her mother didn’t think the marriage would last 6 months but she stuck by him for all those years. He was pretty hardcore Protestant before converting to Catholicism. He liked to fish, drink coffee with friends, and was still pretty involved with the military.

  13. Opus says:

    I decided that were I to live in the United States that I would live in one of the New England states, perhaps Rhode Island, but either way up there, where everyone, even the moonlighting store clerks, are tenured Professors at a top college and everything looks like a 1950s Hitchcock movie. That is how it is, is it not? Texas, definitely not, for it looks like a John Wayne movie all dust and sand. Really surprised that there is any water there at all let alone water enough to fish in.

  14. Heidi says:

    @Scott: Congratulations to you on your wife’s pregnancy. I wish the best for a safe delivery and healthy mother and baby.

  15. Boxer says:

    He was engaged 8 times before marrying my grandmother. Her mother didn’t think the marriage would last 6 months but she stuck by him for all those years. He was pretty hardcore Protestant before converting to Catholicism. He liked to fish, drink coffee with friends, and was still pretty involved with the military.

    Your grandmother was a wise woman. She found a probable incipient cad, landed him, and made something of him. Women used to be like this, and their skill and knowledge was transmitted down to young girls with each generation, during patriarchy. Not much any longer.

    RIP to a good man and bless the lady who was a good wife to him. Both are obvious real world achievements that are underappreciated.

  16. Dalrock says:

    @Greenlander

    Did you catch any fish?

    No, but I don’t think we could have had any more fun if we had.

  17. earlthomas786 says:

    Women used to be like this, and their skill and knowledge was transmitted down to young girls with each generation, during patriarchy.

    They were married in the 40s…so it’s a snapshot of what the norm was before widespread promiscuity, birth control, no-fault, abortion, and second wave feminism.

  18. White Guy says:

    Gent’s I’ve found a real nugget here. I’ve been sitting on this a while, trying to wrap my head around what to do with it.

    I could never figure out why my wife couldn’t loose any weight (She’s 70+lbs over her wedding weight) and after 12 years of trying to get it off, it still won’t budge. I’ve even paid for a MD to help, which made things worse (Her mother and sister are not fat). She’s got something called Metabolic Syndrome, that plus all her other weird things she’s got going on health wise got me digging deep in the weeds to try to solve this riddle (I love finding patterns in chaos), and I wish I hadn’t.

    She of course blames me/pregnancy/stress on weight gain, because, you know there can never be consequences to bad behavior right?

    So what do I come across, two medical articles that relate metabolic syndrome to STD antibodies.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49744271_IgA_antibodies_to_Chlamydia_trachomatis_and_metabolic_syndrome

    https://cardiab.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2840-5-25

    –Here I was wondering why she couldn’t pair bond with me, HA!
    –Now has she ever had a STD, I don’t know, I haven’t ever thought to ask (until coming across this information).
    –Do I really care to find out? No, because getting these kinds of test are expensive, and it would make it even harder to have sex with her.
    –I’m still at a loss as what to do with this information, if it wasn’t for the kids I would have pulled the ejection handle a year ago.
    –I thought I married a Ruth (how she presented herself), turns out I married a Gomer.

    When realizing that we are supposed to be like Christ and love our wives like the church, I didn’t realize how deep this would go. Who would have thought I would be paying for her sins (literally), my wallet has taken a beating!

    – Reason # 4,657 Why women need to stay off the carousel, you will get fat/stay fat when you are older (this one might actually get the hamster’s attention, Ha, just kidding)

  19. earlthomas786 says:

    – Reason # 4,657 Why women need to stay off the carousel, you will get fat/stay fat when you are older

    Interesting. Not sure how much promiscuity and obesity are related cause/effect wise…but I don’t doubt it could be another negative consequence. Point is with all the negative effects physically that eventually happens…the human body wasn’t made for engaging with numerous sexual partners.

  20. Mark says:

    @Earl:

    “”I’ll bring up something personal…my grandfather passed last week””

    I am sorry to hear about your loss Earl.I am sure that he was a great guy and would have been an asset to everyone here at this blog had they known him like you.He is gone to a much better place.

    @Opus

    “”I decided that were I to live in the United States that I would live in one of the New England states, perhaps Rhode Island, “”

    I thought you to be an Empire Loyalist?………You would get into Canada much easier than the US.

    @Scott……..Congratulations to you on your wife’s pregnancy.

  21. seventiesjason says:

    Opus, two of Hitchcocks greatest movies took place in California. Pycho, and of course The Birds!

  22. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Kent State College considers classifying “You need Jesus” as hate speech: https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/38242/

  23. seventiesjason says:

    Opus, I will add that New England is gorgeous place to live in the USA. Clapboard houses, always an old church on the town common. Small towns mostly…..Apple orchards, rolling hills, deep forests…..autumn leaves, snow winding roads…….the Mass Turnpike is actually an attractive freeway…..rocky beaches along the coast “olde” Yankee wit still exists in the outlying areas of every state. Cows (think Pink Floyd’s “Atom Heart Mother” lp cover) and still a general Robert Frost mentality of “good fences make good neighbors”

    My four years in Vermont were a treat beyond belief for my college years!

  24. BlackKnight says:

    I’m very disappointed that exacty zero Christian manosphere writers have interacted with the cultural shit test that is #metoo. When the world needed some sanity and wisdom, you all kept your mouths shut and just let it slide right through. Most of you just happened to take a leave of absence in fact. Shame on all of you.

  25. White Guy says:

    BlackKnight? Didn’t your daddy teach you not to touch the poop?

    How it diving into the ‘metoo’ bullshit any different than that?

  26. Annie says:

    @White Guy:

    Are you sure the doctor did a full thyroid panel for your wife? It should include TSH, T3, T4, and thyroid antibodies. Many things on the Metabolic Syndrome list, like high cholesterol, obesity, heart disease, and high blood sugar, are also related to hypothyroidism. Doctors frequently just test for elevated TSH, but unfortunately that doesn’t give a full picture. Depending on exactly where the problem lies, some people even have normal TSH levels despite low thyroid function. The thyroid controls metabolism, which is why people often gain a lot of weight and can’t lose it. Other symptoms are fatigue, depression, low libido, muscle/joint weakness, memory loss/brain fog, irritability…there’s an enormous list. Of course, her thyroid might be fine, but it’s worth checking into.

  27. Scott says:

    Black Knight-

    I considered it. But then I remembered, you’re supposed to ignore $hit tests.

  28. feministhater says:

    I’m very disappointed that exacty zero Christian manosphere writers have interacted with the cultural shit test that is #metoo. When the world needed some sanity and wisdom, you all kept your mouths shut and just let it slide right through. Most of you just happened to take a leave of absence in fact. Shame on all of you.

    Hey man, I understand the pain. I only learned today of the #metoo contrived bullcrap of the feminist left in Canada. I don’t have any social media presence on twatter, fakebook or any of the other social media networks so sometimes I miss these things completely.

    However, you still need to understand something. I’m a Christian MGTOW. I have realised that we cannot win by trying to play nice with these bitches so I just went home instead. Now I pray for them to pull exactly this type of bullshit, I want moar of it, I want them to outlaw, in the strictest sense, male and female interactions. Only this will wake-up the TradCons, only this will make those stupid pieces of shit stand up and start pushing back. We need moar crazy because the time came and went long, long, long ago when any of this could be made right through mediation and reasoning. Now it must burn first and burn it will.

    The #metoo campaign is brilliant for our side. Absolutely fucking brilliant, we couldn’t ask for a more spirited answer from feminists to show they have no morals and no need for due process and justice. It shows exactly what game is afoot. Don’t play with feminists, they are your enemy and any women who stands for and makes the move that they just made, that of making and publishing lists of supposed rapists without respecting the need for justice and due process, will merely remove the wool from the eyes of the remaining naive men that refuse to see the reality of the gynocentric shit house we find ourselves in. Thank you feminists! You have made the best move you could ever think of, publish more lists, I beg of you. Any man who now supports these feminists, well, they deserve their fate.

  29. White Guy says:

    Annie, I wish it was only a thyroid problem! But I’m paying for a DO to treat that as well, Armour thyroid meds, PCOS/Test blockers, extra T3, the list goes on and on and on. Varicose vein treatments, diabetes meds, extra vitimans, low blood pressure, weird cholesterol levels. High risk pregnancies (even with amazing insurance it cost me over 40K just to have 2 kids!). I’ve been bled dry.

    Most likely my wife spent from age 16/17 to the month before she met me (32) on the Carousel, she even told me her previous fiance was a drug dealer, so what am I supposed to think?

    She was an athlete and and quite a looker back in the day. It makes me think this weight on her is the consequences of her bad choices, and I’m the poor(er) fool paying for it.

  30. feministhater says:

    And to tell the truth. I love it. Now everyone knows the truth. Now everyone knows why MGTOW exists. It’s as plain as day. Where have all the good men gone? Any women who now asks this immediately disqualifies herself as a rational human being. It’s lovely, truly it is. We couldn’t ask for a more fitting reason, it’s beautiful in its simplicity. Why have men stopped asking women out? Why have men stopped getting marriage? Why have men stopped producing above their needs for survival? Why have men stopped caring? Well…. look no further. Just say #metoo and leave the plantation.

    This is just another in the many times that supposed ‘normal’ women could stand up and say ‘enough’ and push back against their feminist sisters but as we shall see again. They will not but they sure will wonder why that guy they liked didn’t even ask her name.

  31. Mark says:

    @Femhater

    “”I only learned today of the #metoo contrived bullcrap of the feminist left in Canada.””

    This speaks volumes in itself. Not even worth the time!

  32. MarcusD says:

    Here’s a fun video from Canadian Pravda:

    Why some men are not adapting to the changing job market

    Contains such insights as: “it seems that girls just automatically or intuitively are aware of the benefits of education and they appreciate what they’re getting”.

  33. Most likely my wife spent from age 16/17 to the month before she met me (32) on the Carousel, she even told me her previous fiance was a drug dealer, so what am I supposed to think?

    Personally if I heard that…big red flag.

  34. feeriker says:

    This is just another in the many times that supposed ‘normal’ women could stand up and say ‘enough’ and push back against their feminist sisters but as we shall see again. They will not …

    No, of course not.

    It’s amazing (no, not really) how women lose all interest in even the idea of activism when there is nothing immediate and tangible in it for them (more than a few “non-feminist” women, a few of whom regularly comment here, have made it clear that they don’t think it’s their job to “advocate for normal.” Of course they also consider themselves “Christians” too, which also explains their utter lack of evangelical zeal).

    Once again: ALL women, whether or not they consider themselves “feminists,” have enjoyed spillover benefits from 2WF (e.g., no-fault divorce, abortion on demand, unilateral wealth transfers from men, AA/EO preferences in job hiring) that they are not about to give up, no matter how destructive these are to the society that they live in. Thus not only will they gladly tolerate the “bad,” but will actively try to prevent restoration of “the good” if it threatens the continuation of their (unearned) bennies.

  35. White Guy says:

    Earl, I didn’t learn that ‘nugget’ until after the second kid.

    When the manosphere talks about ‘trickle truthing’ this is it.

  36. Cane Caldo says:

    @White Guy

    Earl, I didn’t learn that ‘nugget’ until after the second kid.

    Brutal.

  37. Annie says:

    @White Guy

    Well, I hoped it might be helpful to mention, but it sounds a lot more far-reaching. That is a lot of money! I guess the only encouraging thing I can think of is to look at her actions. If she’s been researching and making major diet and lifestyle changes, rather than just popping expensive pills, it at least shows you she’s trying so you won’t feel like you’re just bankrolling health issues. Frankly, getting involved with a drug dealer does not speak highly of her intelligence or morals, but I’m trying to be charitable here.

  38. Anonymous Reader says:

    BlackKnight
    I’m very disappointed that exacty zero Christian manosphere writers have interacted with the cultural shit test that is #metoo.

    I don’t much care about women’s shoes, as a rule. YMMV.
    https://www.metooshoes.com/pages/me-too-home

  39. Anonymous Reader says:

    White Guy
    Most likely my wife spent from age 16/17 to the month before she met me (32) on the Carousel,

    It’s possible. Very sorry to read of the health issues, and how they may tie back to previous life.

    she even told me her previous fiance was a drug dealer, so what am I supposed to think?

    I see further down that was a trickle-out fact, just as Game would predict. You have my sympathy on this one as well, it is a situation too many men find themselves in now. The androsphere is in the slow process of figuring out what to do with ex–carousel riders when divorce is off the table, but it’s not clear yet.

    One of the useful things a man can learn from the PUA’s is how to at least give the impression of being nonjudgemental. Just hangin’ out, chilling. That attitude often leads women to open up a bit, they do love to talk about themselves. I would advise a man in his 20’s to learn this nonchalant mindset both to avoid oneitis, and to be able to let women open up about themselves. Because a man has a right to know about a woman’s past for many reasons.

  40. Anonymous Reader says:

    Opus
    I decided that were I to live in the United States that I would live in one of the New England states, perhaps Rhode Island, but either way up there, where everyone, even the moonlighting store clerks, are tenured Professors at a top college and everything looks like a 1950s Hitchcock movie. That is how it is, is it not?

    Abosolutely. The Trouble With Harry is a good example of New England. Although you might prefer upstate Vermont or Maine.

    Texas, definitely not, for it looks like a John Wayne movie all dust and sand. Really surprised that there is any water there at all let alone water enough to fish in.

    The fish have adapted. They swim in the dust from waterhole to waterhole. From time to time they stop to drink water from the track of a horse’s hoof. They learned that from roosters.

  41. OKRickety says:

    White Guy,

    “Most likely my wife spent from age 16/17 to the month before she met me (32) on the Carousel, she even told me her previous fiance was a drug dealer, so what am I supposed to think?”

    “Earl, I didn’t learn that ‘nugget’ until after the second kid.”

    I will suppose the “nugget” was the drug dealer info, and you are not yet certain on the first part. “Brutal” is correct. You have my sympathy.

    I think I can relate, but mine was not “trickle truth”. Before our engagement, she admitted to living with her previous fiance and some heavy drinking in high school and college. Ten years into our marriage, she (under pressure from a counselor?) admitted to the carousel, two rapes, one abortion, and marijuana and other drug usage. Yes, it was brutal. Ten years after that, she blindsided me with a divorce.

  42. Anonymous Reder says:

    White Guy, not to reinvent the wheel or anything, but from ongoing research the key to metabolic syndrome absent some hormonal issue is brutally simple: sugar. Back in the 50’s Type II diabetes was called “adult onset” and often referred to as “sugar diabetes”. Lots and lots of sugar in various forms of processed food and drink, plus the simple and cheap carbs, is the culprit. If sugar cane / sugar beets were discovered now we’d probably classify sugar as some kind of drug. An Osteopath should be more reasonable on this topic than a standard doctor, since D.O.’s are trained to be a bit more holistic, looking at the whole person rather than just one subsystem. Congrats on getting an in depth test on the thyroid, too.

    Consider reading the book Biology of Desire by Marc Lewis. A book about addiction written by a brain reseacher who himself was an addict. It’s at the popular level, not a textbook, but a lot of the brain structures that have to do with behavior are discussed. Four different cases are presented from real people: heroin addiction, meth, pills and booze. Each individual got way too deep into their chemicals, yet wound up shaking it off (well, ok, one woman did so in high security prison). The author makes the point about neuroplasticity over and over; the brain has rewiring capabilities that are either reinforced or not every day.

    Addiction isn’t “weak will” although that is part of it. It also isn’t a medical condition / disease, either, although adapttion is part of it. It’s neural pathways that have been deepened through repetition. While the pathways can’t be erased, the downstream results can be rerouted. Classic example: a man I know decided to quit smoking, so he started carrying a pack of gum instead, then when he reached for a cigarette there was a stick of gum to hand as a substitute. I’ve known former smokers who were wearing rubber bands before those bracelets became a thing for kids; they would pop the band when they wanted a smoke. “Thing to do” plus negative reinforcement all in one – it was their own idea.

    Viewing addiction as a behavior or group of behaviors that can be modified might be a good way forward for men who are married to former carousel riders. In more ways than one.

  43. earlthomas786 says:

    Earl, I didn’t learn that ‘nugget’ until after the second kid.

    When the manosphere talks about ‘trickle truthing’ this is it.

    Dang, the amount of important information a woman can withhold before marriage is mind boggling.

    I guess that’s why you have to pay attention to any red flag you can get.

  44. earlthomas786 says:

    I would advise a man in his 20’s to learn this nonchalant mindset both to avoid oneitis, and to be able to let women open up about themselves. Because a man has a right to know about a woman’s past for many reasons.

    Yes, be non-judgemental on the outside and let her tell you anything and everything…and be very judgemental on the inside if you think this may be the woman you marry and be the mother of your children.

  45. Novaseeker says:

    I’m very disappointed that exacty zero Christian manosphere writers have interacted with the cultural shit test that is #metoo. When the world needed some sanity and wisdom, you all kept your mouths shut and just let it slide right through. Most of you just happened to take a leave of absence in fact. Shame on all of you.

    Eh, no.

    #metoo is a tidal wave right now. What you do right now, at this moment, is get out of the way — nothing anyone says now will be listened to as long as the frenzy of piranhas is taking place. It WILL die down in a while and then we can look at the aftermath and draw some conclusions. But generally it’s not the best idea to jump in front of a runaway train.

  46. Anonymous Reader says:

    #metoo is the Autumn version of the pink kitty hat; an emotional tantrum devoid of thought that will run its course before the end of the year.

    For entertainment, one could agree and amplify in a sense by pointing to other Weinswine in Hollywood and suggesting the mob go that way, this way, the other way. Burn up the energy that way. Or pick any of several DC politicians starting with Bill Clinton and ask where the outrage is, hmm?

    Or offer the shoes I pointed to previously with an innocent, “This?” look.

    Reacting seriously to faddish tantrums isn’t a good use of time / energy.

  47. PokeSalad says:

    Only this will wake-up the TradCons,

    Nothing will wake up the cucks. Nothing. They will go to their graves convinced of their righteousness.

  48. White guy,
    I second AR’s comments about sugar. Has your wife tried a low carb way of eating? Search for Optimal Ketogenic Living on Facebook. There are people in there managing all sorts of health issues, including thyroid issues and diabetes.
    I’ve lost a bunch of weight this year eating this way, and also significantly reduced my endometriosis symptoms. (I won’t get specific, given this is a men’s blog)

  49. feeriker says:

    Dang, the amount of important information a woman can withhold before marriage is mind boggling.

    I guess that’s why you have to pay attention to any red flag you can get.

    I really think it has reached the point where if a guy is seriously thinking about proposing marriage, he needs to hire a private investigator and have them dig as deeply into the woman’s background as possible. He also needs to be prepared to be unpleasantly surprised at what is uncovered.

    Never, EVER take a North American woman at her word. The good news, if you can call it that, is that so few of them will be anything close to marriageable that dropping the price of a wedding ring on the services of a PI is probably something you won’t have to do more than once.

  50. Lost Patrol says:

    #metoo is a tidal wave right now.

    #metoo is the Autumn version of the pink kitty hat; an emotional tantrum devoid of thought

    The old cowboys would know it as a stampede. All the cattle join in, though only a half dozen or so still know why everyone is running. The herd is running. I will run. Some women are retroactively embellishing meaningless things from their past in order to be seen participating. Others are making it up out of whole cloth because it is the thing of the moment.

    As to water across Texas and the plains, the old timers said it was too thick to drink and too thin to plow, but they allowed as to how there was water.

  51. PokeSalad says:

    Never heard of this tripe until now.

    Have many more important things to do rather than give a moment’s thought to the latest Two-Minute Hate conjured up by a bunch of virtue-signaling hysterics.

  52. Dalrock, you HAVE to weigh in on this Bill O’Reilly & Harvey Weinstein crap with your next post. There is SOOOOO much red pill truth in everything that is happening here with all this deviant behavior (on everyone’s part.)

  53. BlackKnight says:

    Ok. Interesting insights on how to approach #metoo, but frankly? Just hoping it burns itself out is a bad idea. This isn’t an isolated incident (at least the 3rd cultural shit-test in the last few months) and these sorts of test have been happening with increasing fervor for the last decade. This is just….not….how one would deal with a shit test in the real world, especially one so obviously in the vein of compliance. I absolutely agree that a logical, measured and reasonable discussion would yield nothing, just as it would in a 2 person scenario. But for the love, let’s have some life around here.

    We all sit around bitching and moaning about the state of things but when the opportunity arrives for us to engage in what is the most inane display of trading carousel-ride stories for social points in the form of likes and hearts, we all just keep our mouths shut? When my wife drops a compliance-test like that (again, when its the most recent in a long line of insanity), ain’t no way my response is gonna be to carry on like she didn’t even open her mouth. She’s gonna get the biggest A&A I can kick loose in the moment and more than likely a whole lot of sarcasm.

    For instance, there’s two responses just begging to be put out there:

    – #patriarchyfor1000 : The whole problem at the root of #metoo has been solved for at least two centuries in America. It’s called: “Father doesn’t let his handiwork and assets out of his sight”. I had a female friend claim she was sexually harassed by a creepy driving instructor when she was a teenager. That’s her father’s fault for not teaching that to her himself and “empowering” her to roam about in the world, right into a personal-space encounter with a creep in a car. Now she thinks every man needs to pay her reparations because of feminism’s erosion of the best institution we came up with to protect her.

    – #nowayyourhotenough : What better way to cut through the fog and get right down to it. The best litmus test for sexual assault or rape is to ask the question: “If I was attracted to this man prior to this interaction, would I find it unwanted?” If the answer is yes, well that’s rape. If no, boohoo for you sister; just because a fat uggo took a glance in your direction or mumbled something unseemly doesn’t mean your entitled to convert that experience into social points at the expense of every other man on the planet. Plus, you’re kinda an uggo yourself, are you sure you’re not over-inflating your value there honey?

    I’ve also been hearing alot of nonsense about females in the West being “prey”. That’s equally ridiculous. My wife, before she met me, took part in a world-spanning missions experience where she traveled extensively alone. Not only was she nearly trafficked, she also got to experience the real world of what it means to be seen as prey while in India. Though I place the blame for that firmly at her father’s feet, even she can see how ridiculous it is for Western women to think like this.

    Yet for all of that not a peep was heard. No one said a thing. And we missed another golden opportunity to start DOING something about the cultural trash heap we find ourselves in. If I had a platform like many of you on here I’d have been using it, that’s for sure. But no, we’d all rather hope it goes away, or at least pipes down for a bit so we can get back to arguing about grammar and the finer points of logic like a bunch of biddies over knitting. We needed our leaders to give a rallying cry, to call shit for what it really is and set out a battle plan. Instead those of us who were brave enough to get engaged just ended up surrounded and flanked because our squad pulled out when the artillery barrage got a bit too heavy.

  54. gunnerq says:

    BlackKnight, don’t quit your day job. That was the limpest man-up rant I’ve heard this year.

  55. Anonymous Reader says:

    @GunnerQ can’t tell if it’s a manUP rant or some sort of keyboard commandoing troll for flames, or serious confusion.

    Either way, taking a hashtag storm seriously indicates a lack of perspective. There is no way to engage something like #MeToo with logic, because it’s purely emotional. Either counter-emotion, or don’t bother.

    BlackKnight seems to be upset that women got upset and men didn’t calm them down, but I could be wrong. Equating tweets with high explosive suggests a lack of perspective, though.

    Anyway, 3 months from now it will be mostly gone, then replaced by something else. There are bigger and smaller fish to fry. I know, we’re doing it all wrong…oh well.

  56. Opus says:

    @Anonymous Reader

    Exactly and of course the Trouble with Harry. What has since occurred to me is that in that movie Autumn or as you would say Fall looks so wonderful and idyllic and yet the gothic horror pictures produced by Hammer were set creating a sense of doom and foreboding at that same season of the year. Perhaps English Autumn is less idyllic than American Fall – more wet and dank.

    Choosing the right season in which to film is important for the movie.

  57. earlthomas786 says:

    #metoo is what happens when you think sexual liberation is a good idea but realize it’s a bad idea when implemented in reality.

    It’s all about bad feelings when women are objectified through sexual assualt and harrasment…but it’s still crickets or outright defending when it comes to wearing immodest clothing, taking birth control and abortion.

  58. earlthomas786 says:

    I really think it has reached the point where if a guy is seriously thinking about proposing marriage, he needs to hire a private investigator and have them dig as deeply into the woman’s background as possible. He also needs to be prepared to be unpleasantly surprised at what is uncovered.

    I’m reading a book my mother gave me in which the woman describes her past in full detail.

    Now the upside is she is Catholic and eventually confesses and repents from her past and returns to the faith…which is a great message.

    The downside is this…she didn’t have the best parents, she didn’t have much teaching about the faith growing up, and she lived her life much like a typical American woman. She was on birth control, she had abusive boyfriends (her first one smoked weed which she eventually did), married and civilally divorced twice (including one which she admits she didn’t want to marry but did anyway), involved with occult like things, got pregnant out of wedlock and aborted the child. I’m to the part now where she’s in her late 30s-early 40s and has met the man of her dreams…so I’ll have to read if she tells him this and he still marries her.

  59. earlthomas786 says:

    Oh yes and she also had breast cancer and a tumor which lead to a hysterectomy. Needless to say those things happen when you live that type of lifestyle.

  60. seventiesjason says:

    The whole “metoo” thing like with feminists is a no win.

    Ask them….well, why are you saying something now? For the past ten years you have been “outspoken” for womens rights….but you didn’t dare say a thing for this until……………

    “Okay…is like Weinstein REMOVED from all power in his company and Hollywood? He IS? Okay I too was sexually harassed / assaulted / spanked / made to give him a BJ / made to pose nude and it’s time women “stood up” and face their accusers!”

    Virtue signalling at its finest.

    None of these “bold and courageous” women could utter a peep until a few weeks ago. You won’t be able to corner a discussion with them. It’s all about “feelings” and very “subjective” things that you cannot hold them accountable for.

    I also have heard Weinstein was “cured” after a few days in counseling…….

    Just wow! He’ll be forgiven very quickly

  61. feministhater says:

    Yet for all of that not a peep was heard. No one said a thing. And we missed another golden opportunity to start DOING something about the cultural trash heap we find ourselves in. If I had a platform like many of you on here I’d have been using it, that’s for sure. But no, we’d all rather hope it goes away, or at least pipes down for a bit so we can get back to arguing about grammar and the finer points of logic like a bunch of biddies over knitting. We needed our leaders to give a rallying cry, to call shit for what it really is and set out a battle plan. Instead those of us who were brave enough to get engaged just ended up surrounded and flanked because our squad pulled out when the artillery barrage got a bit too heavy.

    Just exactly what is it we were meant to do? I don’t think you understand the ramifications of what you state. There are no leaders, there are no ‘rallying cries’, there is only a small, guerrilla faction of resistors of many different thoughts and beliefs. This is not our fight. Free sex is not a ‘Christian’ thing. As I said earlier, it’s a blessing in disguise.

    Guerrilla Warfare is not fought in the open, it’s fought with the element of surprise. This is them with their ‘scorched earth’ policy trying to destroy enemies they cannot see, nor attack. It’s beautiful, let them continue to destroy any goodwill left. It will backfire and in the meantime, government will use it to increase anti-male policies leading to an increase in men like us.

    It’s crumbling all around. The edifice isn’t holding up anymore. The time for open conflict passed long ago, now you pick them off one by one and let them eat themselves up. Harvey Weinstein is just the first of the older male feminists to get roasted by his own monster. Let them continue to devour each other. It’s not our fight.

  62. Opus says:

    @Feminist Hater

    I came, eventually, to the inevitable and timely conclusion that so far as free-sex is concerned, there is no such thing. Sexual Intercourse may be presented as a quid pro quo between two consenting adults but women always demand that something extra and thus sex outside of marriage is merely a free sample save that one must purchase – or face the consequences.

  63. BlackKnight says:

    @gunnerq Prov. 26:4-5

    You sound like a guy who’s just a bit too comfortable in his playboy papered, plywood shack back at base in Afghanistan. You must have a hard time reading any of Paul’s letters or getting through a teaching of Jesus. Thanks for the insight. Sorry you can’t handle an exhortation. Here’s some more cotton for your ears.

    This wasn’t supposed to be flames or trolling. I am genuinely concerned that no one here saw fit to engage with the worldview undergirding #metoo. For those who can’t see it, this isn’t about twitter or calming women down. Screw that. It’s about seeing things as they truly are and not just throwing out catchphrases like “faddish” and “will die out” instead of really analyzing what’s happening underneath it all and discussing how we can use that knowledge to continue moving forward with changing our world. Isn’t that why we are all here in the first place? Our culture doesn’t need to be calmed down. It needs a firm hand. I just spent a week looking for somebody to process these thoughts with me; get my head wrapped around the foundations of this current meme and no one piped up. Then everyone got on my case when I got fired up enough to comment on it.

    But please, by all means, keep making this about me and MY need to man up.

  64. OKRickety says:

    From Difference Between Reason and Excuse:

    “A reason simply refers to a cause or explanation. It explains why someone did something or why something happened.
    An excuse, on the other hand, is also a type of reason that specifically justifies or defends a fault.”

    In the case of Weinstein, Bush, etc., reasons are given to explain why the behavior was not reported at the time. I believe the vast majority of these are excuses.

    Reasons are being given to explain why some have not responded to the #Metoo  barrage. Are these reasons excuses? Who gets to decide?

  65. Anonymous Reader says:

    I am genuinely concerned that no one here saw fit to engage with the worldview undergirding #metoo.

    Question: what do you suggest men do about the worldview underlying the latest hashtag?

    You’re very new here. Perhaps you spend some time reading older postings by Dalrock to get an understanding of this part of the androsphere?

  66. Novaseeker says:

    BlackKnight —

    I don’t see anything in the #metoo phenomenon that is any different from the overarching cultural paradigm we have lived in for some time. It’s a flare-up within that context, just as when there are mass shootings there is a flareup of the gun control arguments, and so on. What has happened is that the herd of women has been given permission by the Weinstein situation to act out and vent whatever frustrations they have at men — running the gamut from actual rape to unwanted compliments at the workplace and everything in between. It isn’t anything more than that, and it’s nothing new (the memes have long been floating around in the MSM and on the internet).

    My main takeaway from this is to reaffirm for other men my ling-standing advice to not flirt/compliment/date women at work. Not worth it. Even if it doesn’t get to the point of harassment claims (although you never know, they could pop up on Twitter in 25 years time as we can see), it always runs the risk of awkwardness, bad blood and factionalization, all of which can and do undermine your job position. Just like many guys won’t date women at the church they attend (if it breaks up, as most relationships do, you are blackballed socially in that church by the rest of the women, who basically hate you), the same holds true at work. And if you don’t see the workplace as “in field”, you won’t be accused of doing any of these things, nor will you run the risk of the social ostracization thing upon a break up. Much better to be friendly, collegial and professional (no need to be cold and distant … you can be friendly without flirting) in the workplace. There are plenty of other places to meet women — daytime or night time or online, whatever you want — where you don’t run the same risk as when you treat the workplace like a singles group.

    Otherwise I don’t see much use in commenting on the #metoo phenomenon other than as it has been commented on here: it’s a flare-up of long-standing memes where the herd has gotten engaged. None of this is new — the memes have all been going in the same direction for years now ,and we all expect that they will continue to do so until something bigger than the manosphere stops them — it will take something massive, disruptive and likely broadly unpleasant for most everyone before they are stopped. Therefore I do not see the usefulness in engaging in them in the broader culture — let it play itself out.

    What Dalrock does here, by contrast, is more useful because it is generally more focused on Christian churches, and there the battle, while going in mostly the wrong direction, is still not fully lost, and there are chances to correct the course somewhat, if however slightly, away from where things seem to be headed, That isn’t the case in the broader culture — in the broader culture, it’s going to continue down this path until something quite disruptive makes it stop, and that won’t be pushback from something as small as the manosphere.

  67. Anonymous Reader says:

    Speaking of the #metoo hashtag, lesbian Ellen Degeneres joined the stampede, only to get gored.

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/25/ellen-degeneres-gets-slammed-on-twitter-over-sexist-tweet-to-katy-perry.html

    Drudge currently has the image from the tweet up.
    By the way, IMO that’s not a sexist tweet. That’s a clumsy flirt/pickup tweet.

  68. dragnet says:

    @ Anonymous Reader, White Guy

    “One of the useful things a man can learn from the PUA’s is how to at least give the impression of being nonjudgemental.”

    This, in a nutshell. A man absolutely should know at least the general contours of a woman’s sexual history before making a commitment to her and having, at least superficially, a non-judgmental attitude will be one of your most potent tools.

    There was a good post about this on Roosh’s forum a few years back:

    It’s definitely true that women will lie about their sexual history—their ability to secure long-term provisioning is a stake so there much incentive for them to be dishonest.

    But in my experience, if you come across non-judgmental and you win a girl’s trust she’ll tell you what you want to know about her history. In obtaining this information, your biggest ally is time.

    …In the end, you are exploiting a unique feature of human psychology: that everyone, deep down, wants to be known. Everyone wants to be authentic and known for who they truly are. Women lie about their sexual histories because they feel like they have to, not because they want to.

    The rest of it is here:
    https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-30876-post-598034.html#pid598034

  69. feeriker says:

    My main takeaway from this is to reaffirm for other men my ling-standing advice to not flirt/compliment/date women at work.

    For any RP man this not only is a no-brainer, but easy to adhere to. Most women in the contemporary workplace are competitors, trying above all else to prove, just by their presence, that they are just like any man. What heterosexual human male with normal attraction triggers wants anything whatsoever to do with that? He would no more flirt with a “woman” at the office than he would with a man at the gym.

  70. PokeSalad says:

    To paraphrase a great movie: “Forget it, Jake, it’s Cucktown”

  71. gunnerq says:

    BlackKnight @ 9:14 am:
    “It’s about … discussing how we can use that knowledge to continue moving forward with changing our world. Isn’t that why we are all here in the first place? Our culture doesn’t need to be calmed down. It needs a firm hand.”

    Ah, the idealism of youth. Don’t bother trying to change the world. That is far beyond both your ability and duty. Instead, do right by God and be concerned for the people sharing your airspace. If you’re any kind of decent human being then that’s what you would do even as a king. See? Your mortal circumstances don’t matter.

    As for this metoo thingy, you should know that I live in coastal urban Commiefornia. You’re upset about feminism’s latest squee; I’m upset about State treason, white genocide and the recent legalization of intentionally spreading AIDS into the blood banks. If I could magically solve one problem, it wouldn’t be yours.

  72. Yet Another Commenter, Yet Another Comment ("Yac-Yac") says:

    I’d like to vote to second pretty much all of what gunnerq, Novaseeker & feministhater have argued above, about the #metoo thing (and that which I don’t, I’ll get to in a paragraph or two).

    BlackKnight, you wrote, above:

    “[…] This wasn’t supposed to be flames or trolling. I am genuinely concerned that no one here saw fit to engage with the worldview undergirding #metoo. […]”

    OK. Great.

    Believe it or not, we’re all with you on that broad, general sentiment here (believe it or not).

    Commenters here such as gunnerq, Novaseeker & feministhater see it all (and have seen it all) — but even they don’t all see it exactly the same way as each other. From different perspectives, come different insights. And my perspective on this, differs yet again from theirs.

    For example, from my point of view, what you are calling “the worldview undergirding #metoo”, I see as mostly dominated by attention-whoring. IIUC, gunnerq, Novaseeker & feministhater (etc.) are mostly noticing how the attention-whoring is being carried out, or are mostly thinking about how it’s nothing really new (except: #TwitterMob&HashTags), or are delighted that the Hollywood Left appears to be eating its own, as an aspect of the attention-whoring. Which may or may not be why their answers don’t satisfy you.

    Maybe mine will: if I am right, and the key to it all (if there is a single one — doubtful) is the attention-whoring, then what you are calling “the worldview undergirding #metoo” is just the area under the curve, of a lot of infinitessimal female egos demanding attention, now, and going forward as far as possible, as a function on time. Call it narcissism; call it egoism; call it solipsism — whatever: taken as an outburst of behavior, it’s just a bunch of women demanding attention. I put it to you, that the proper RP way (be it secular RP or Christian RP), is to ignore them. Even, “talk to the hand, ‘ladies'” is too much attention. They deserve none. Indeed, they IMHO need to be given none. That’s the reward for the behavior; the only result of giving the sought reward, is that you’ll (we’ll) have to put up with more of this insane egoism from those women who are participating (or, the who’ll notice that the participating women got that attention).

    So, if you want this particular instance of Cultural Feminist madness to die, you’ll have to ignore it.

    IMHO, anyway.

    Pax Christi Vobiscum

  73. Chad says:

    I stole this from an article I read: I used the metoo campaign to ask my wife, who has sympathies for her friends, whether the black man in to kill a mockingbird was guilty of rape. According to metoo logic, he was. That put her on the defensive.
    Then I said none of the women was courageous, coming out about this 20 years later when Weinstein’s on the wanestein.
    It was some good little war of the sexes discussion with her admitting they weren’t courageous.
    I don’t think a broader manosphere wise response was warranted.

  74. BlackKnight says:

    @yacyac

    Gracias amigo. I see what your saying and it makes some sense to me.

    @AnonReader

    New here for commenting truly. However, there are many lurkers here like me. Only stirred off the bottom into action when something like this happens. I was/am seeing a major disconnect between what is discussed here and how it actually plays out when something goes “bang”

    @gunnerq

    Thanks for the head pat ya old fart. LOL

  75. Yet Another Commenter, Yet Another Comment ("Yac-Yac") says:

    @ BlackKnight: De nada 🙂

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