It could be no other way.

Sam Adams has a commercial with beer drinkers training for a contest to see who can hold a stein full of beer at arm’s length the longest. Beer commercials have typically been about being one of the guys, but in our feminist era this has been modified somewhat.

Beer commercials are still about being one of the guys, but now they are about a woman becoming one of the guys too. What makes the commercial above noteworthy is that it isn’t noteworthy at all. This is perfectly normal to us. Of course women have more upper body strength than men.  And of course a woman can become one of the guys.

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91 Responses to It could be no other way.

  1. SnapperTrx says:

    Isn’t Sam Adams the beer company that dropped out of some parade because gay groups couldn’t be in it? What more can you expect from such a company.

    Found it:
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/14/sam-adams-pulls-out-boston-st-patrick-parade-over-gay-rights.html

  2. Oscar says:

    “And of course a woman can become one of the guys.” ~ Dalrock

    Well, yes, but it’s also true that a man can become one of the girls. Equality!

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  4. Scott says:

    I’m actually with Oscar on this stuff now. The only way back to sanity it totally annihilation of the distinctions everything is subjective.

    Hasten the destruction by playing according to its strict logical conclusions, then replace when the opportunity presents itself.

  5. Arthur Sido says:

    If your house was engulfed in flames and you were overcome by smoke, who would you want to hoist you on their shoulders and carry you to safety, the guy in the blue sweater or the faux Fraulein?

  6. Scott says:

    Sorry, “total” and “distinctions UNTIL everything”

  7. feeriker says:

    Good thing that Sam Adams stopped brewing real beer years ago and now produces watery slop indistinguishable from AnheuserBusch, Miller, and Coors. It makes me feel better about avoiding them and their products.

    Deeply disturbing, how many brewing companies are turning SJW. I guess it’s a good thing that I’m pretty much a teetotaller nowadays.

  8. feministhater says:

    I’m actually with Oscar on this stuff now. The only way back to sanity it totally annihilation of the distinctions everything is subjective.

    Hasten the destruction by playing according to its strict logical conclusions, then replace when the opportunity presents itself.

    Welcome to the Dank Side. You have to go through the crazy to get to the other side. Hold on to your Pussy Hats, it’s going to be a crazy ride!

  9. Frank K says:

    Wanna bet the ladies in the contests will have smaller and much lighter steins?

    I actually know a guy who won a fancy German stein that way. I forget if it was a Sam Adams contest.

  10. Bruce says:

    They’re annoying when they come into the freeweight section of the gym – I tend to spit when I deadlift (when breathing heavy). When it’s guys around me I try to be careful out of basic respect but when girls I make no effort to control my spitting – it usually grosses them out and they go away.

  11. Bruce says:

    Grunting while lifting and/or farting in the gym also helps clear them out.

  12. john03063 says:

    Women must really hate being women if acting like a woman is so abhorrent to them….

  13. Anonymous Reader says:

    “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

    — Theodore Dalrymple

  14. Dalrock says:

    It is interesting that two women are participating with the men. There is the butch woman wearing a flannel shirt, and the one wearing the dirndl. So they have both the butch feminists and the garden variety woman who wants to be pretty and feminine, but still wants to be one of the guys. It is the latter, the one in the dirndl, who wins.

  15. Scott says:

    AR-

    That’s the situation my dad described in Yugoslavia in the 1950s. He used to tell us stories of people disappearing the day after saying the wrong thing out loud. He himself was imprisoned 3 seperate times at Goli Otok for wrongspeak. I was pretty young when I first remember hearing those stories, and the impetus for his escaping. It always had an “other worldly” quality to it back then. Like not something I needed not worry about.

    The longer I live, the more I realize how heritable traits are. He would rather have been in prison than lie. The difference is, he was much younger than me then, not married and had no kids. But I HATE acting like everything is OK. I feel sick to my stomach when I participate in lies, on any level.

  16. Scott says:

    “not something I needed to worry about”

  17. feministhater says:

    Must be weird for you Scott? Your father escaped to the USA to get away from the insanity only to deliver you straight into its awaiting arms.

  18. Anonymous Reader says:

    Scott
    That’s the situation my dad described in Yugoslavia in the 1950s. He used to tell us stories of people disappearing the day after saying the wrong thing out loud. He himself was imprisoned 3 seperate times at Goli Otok for wrongspeak.

    Lurkers and others, this is what Scott’s father was sent to 3 times for wrongspeaking during the Tito regime in Yugoslavia:
    https://infogalactic.com/info/Goli_otok

    Or read this book:
    http://www.goliotok.com/

    Ignorance of history makes people suckers. Don’t be a sucker.

  19. Oscar says:

    This doesn’t quite fit here, but it’s part of the same script, and fits with AR’s and Scott’s observations.

    SJWs have no plan to replace the institutions they destroy with anything. It’s destruction for its own sake.

  20. Anonymous Reader says:

    Dalrock
    So they have both the butch feminists and the garden variety woman who wants to be pretty and feminine, but still wants to be one of the guys. It is the latter, the one in the dirndl, who wins.

    Sure, because the latter one gets to play by either set of rules, depending on what she wants. “I’m a big, strong, WOMAN, hear me roar!” when it’s to her benefit, but “Eeek! A mouse! I’m just a girl!” when that’s to her benefit. The dirndl girl is the perfect standin for both sexes of the target market.

  21. Oscar says:

    @ Anonymous Reader says:
    October 16, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    “Sure, because the latter one gets to play by either set of rules, depending on what she wants. ‘I’m a big, strong, WOMAN, hear me roar!’ when it’s to her benefit, but ‘Eeek! A mouse! I’m just a girl!’ when that’s to her benefit.”

    That reminds me of my 3-year-old. When it’s to her advantage, she wants to be treated like a “big girl”. When it’s not, she wants to be treated like a baby.

  22. Scott says:

    AR-

    My dad had paper thin permanently bruised skin on the backs of his hands from the frostbite he received there doing forced labor in the snow. He was forced to stand in a room that was not tall enough to stand (basically squatting) for hours at a time, and then slept on a bed of straw, infested with vermin. He finally had enough in 1958 and escaped to Belgium that year.

    He was a unassuming man, not very vocal most of the times. A super-brain mathematician who did some pretty cool work on the F-16 and other projects here. He Rarely talked about it WWII (he was a kid) or the Tito years, I think because he just didn’t want us to think about it. He is my archetype male hero.

  23. Opus says:

    The English International Lorry [Truck] Drivers nicknamed Yugoslavia, The Planet of the Apes, because its men were so huge (less impressed with their roads, however).

    Call me Sexist but when I see a woman holding a Pint glass or frankly, drinking any sort of real ale she automatically goes down in my estimation as someone either aping masculinity or as, perhaps, unnecessarily competitive. A Stein is two pints, I believe.

    I don’t think they have real ale in America just that ice cold lager which I have to say was in alcoholic terms, weak, compared to its European version. Miller Light is just that and so it is impossible to become intoxicated no matter how much of it one drinks. I thought Prohibition had ended?

  24. Patrick Albanese says:

    How To Write A TV Commercial

    1) Women are smarter than men.
    2) Kids are smarter than adults.
    3) Animals are smarter than people.
    4) Minorities are smarter than white people.

  25. PokeSalad says:

    quote-— Theodore Dalrymple

    This is akin to the aim behind criminalizing everything, even the most mundane…..if you make it where no one can function in society without breaking some law, then all are compromised to some degree and at the mercy of the unaccountable bureaucrats who control society.

  26. dragnet says:

    @ Scott

    “The only way back to sanity it totally annihilation of the distinctions everything is subjective.”

    Basically. I reached the conclusion sometime ago that the best way to undermine this radicalism is to force people to live with it’s consequences in full.

    If anybody has any better solutions, I’m all ears.

  27. Casey says:

    @ Scott

    “He himself was imprisoned 3 separate times at Goli Otok for wrong-speak.”

    That phrase rings ominously in my ears, as we are at the threshold of that right now in Western societies.

    Right now in the West, leftists will shame you, out you, and attempt to get you fired (with a great deal of success) for the high crime of wrong-speak or wrong-think.

    It seems a natural progression that jail time will be coming shortly for these infractions.

    In fact, in Canada, it is now a crime to not refer to someone in the pronoun of their choosing. ‘Zi and Zir’ being examples of made-up pronouns that are to be adhered.

    Being as it’s a crime, ‘jail-time’ and ‘re-education’ are both on the table for punishments available to be dispensed.

    The ‘Per Bak’ principle will (in time) reverse the copious ground gained by leftists and SJWs.

    When the limit is reached, a momentous correction will wipe out this type of egregious nonsense.

    Feminism is fascism.
    Leftism is fascism.
    Liberalism (as it is now) is fascism.

    Fascist societies don’t ‘correct’.
    Fascism societies ‘end’.

    Something stronger takes their place.

    I am actually a promoter of liberty.
    However that liberty must be coupled with responsibility.

    Without personal agency, accountability, responsibility being a cornerstone of society, we are all truly screwed.

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  30. Anonymous Reader says:

    I’ve seen women who could hold a stein of beer at arms length for a while, they even wore dirdls, but they didn’t have skinny arms like GirlPower girl in this advert. Just saying.

  31. Anonymous Reader says:

    Opus
    I don’t think they have real ale in America just that ice cold lager which I have to say was in alcoholic terms, weak, compared to its European version.

    That was probably true the last time you were on this side of the pond. Beer used to be limited in alcoholic content, 3.2% was a number in some states, 5% other places, 7%, etc. There are practical limits to how much alcohol a beer can have, whether top fermented or bottom fermented.

    But.

    The microbrew culture that started in the 1990’s has now expanded beyond anything seen in the last 100+ years. It’s now possible to get a decent beer of various types in many US locales. Even out in flyover country you can find craft brewers making very hoppy ales, mild ales, real beers, stouts, etc. and etc. It would not be a surprise if the large scale market is flattening out in demand, due to the ever growing number of regional small and even microbrewers.

    This is a more pleasant topic than Iron Curtain era police stating.

  32. Gunner Q says:

    Patrick Albanese @ 2:55 pm:
    “How To Write A TV Commercial

    1) Women are smarter than men.
    2) Kids are smarter than adults.
    3) Animals are smarter than people.
    4) Minorities are smarter than white people.”

    The list neglected to advertise the product. It’s perfect!

    Opus @ 2:51 pm:
    “I don’t think they have real ale in America just that ice cold lager which I have to say was in alcoholic terms, weak, compared to its European version. Miller Light is just that and so it is impossible to become intoxicated no matter how much of it one drinks. I thought Prohibition had ended?”

    Americans learned drinking to get drunk during Prohibition because the alcohol was often low-quality. The habit seems to have outlived the necessity. And Mexicans only want the cheap stuff anyway. USA does many things right but not food & booze.

  33. Lost Patrol says:

    Interesting commentary about threat point and punishment for wrong-speak. Of course the lynch-pin of that system was always neighborly informers (I wonder if this was a factor for Scott’s father?). Love your neighbor as yourself, unless you have to rat him out to signal your own loyalty to The Powers. How far around the corner are we from that I wonder? I strongly suspect we’d be there now in the USA under a Hillary presidency.

    AR is right about the beer. Craft breweries are rocking it across the great plains these days. Tastes great, more filling, up to as much as 10% abv sometimes.

  34. Frank K says:

    The microbrew culture that started in the 1990’s has now expanded beyond anything seen in the last 100+ years. It’s now possible to get a decent beer of various types in many US locales. Even out in flyover country you can find craft brewers making very hoppy ales, mild ales, real beers, stouts, etc. and etc. It would not be a surprise if the large scale market is flattening out in demand, due to the ever growing number of regional small and even microbrewers.

    The mega brewers (Bud, Coors, Miller, etc.) are feeling the competition from the micros, some of which are not so micro anymore. As a result the bigger micros are getting bought out by the majors. I know a guy who works at the Budweiser plant in Fort Collins, CO. Production is significantly down. and the only reason there haven’t been any layoffs is because they’re union. Instead, he gets furloughed 2-3 times a year, with pay. Nice work if you can get it.

  35. Oleaginous Outrager says:

    Commercials, especially beer commercials, have been presenting men, especially white men, as hapless, easily conned dopes for quite some time. Indeed, having an odd physiognomy seems to have become a requirement for white guys in commercials. Just take a look at this one:

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  37. earlthomas786 says:

    It’s much like the same cinema trickery that makes us think a 115 pound female can beat up a 225 pound man with a few karate kicks.

    You see in reality most women can’t throw a punch well and can get knocked out easily by a man

  38. “4) Minorities are smarter than white people.”

    Right, I’m sure that multiple white people here are smarter than Neil Degrasse Tyson.

  39. Spike says:

    I’ve visited Munich on several occasions, and this ad actually defeats the purpose of what Oktoberfest was meant to be (with the emphasis on the ”was”…).

    In the long-gone days of yore, men displayed their beer-making and other skills during harvest festivals such as Oktoberfest. Young women of marriageable age dressed up in cleavage-displaying drindls, demonstrating THEIR wares. They did so by not only wearing the dress but also by serving other men and families those huge glasses as well as food. And they can carry those huge glasses with a lot of skill.

    The idea was to combine man’s labor with women’s sex to produce more product as well as the next generation.

    But I guess now, women are just one of the guys (not ”men”), so we’ll just have to import women from the Third World in order to populate the First World….

  40. Jason says:

    I lived in what was called “West Germany” as an American exchange student in the 1986-1987 academic year. I turned 16 while I was living there. I lived in Dortmund, ‘Europa’s bier haupstadt eins!’ This was before the Internet. Phone calls to the USA were crystal clear, but cost well over $3.50 a minute (called home only twice. Once, to let my parents know I arrived safely, and again on Christmas morning in 1986. Both calls were very brief). Lots of letters and postcards that year!

    Samuel Adams was the ONLY American beer that was sold on the market shelves at that time in West Germany. It was the only beer that passed strict “german” purity tests. When I was a legal drinker, Sammy Adams was the only American beer I swallowed. New York State’s horrid, upstate swill ‘Genesee’ is still getting upstaters drunk for “that first time” as teenagers sadly….I digress.

    Even living in West Germany, the women were terrible drinkers…and the drinking age when I was there was 16 (or if you could reach the bar)…….teenager German girls crying, falling out of their blouses, running make-up, and with their unshaven legs and pits (I don’t know about now…but back then I was actually a bit culturally “horrified” as an American that German girls didn’t shave their legs). They were no better than their American’s counterparts back across the Atlantic.

    It’s too bad Samuel Adams is about “being one of the guys” because frankly….most guys are not even guys today. As for beer sales in the USA, Samuel Adams has some stiff competition. “Bud Lite” is the best selling beer in the USA by a LONGSHOT. This commercial will do little to better their sales…………..

  41. Jason says:

    @ Scott

    I am half-Slavic (my father was born in Poland, came to the USA in 1946 at the age of nine). My father says he “remembers” the Germans retreating out of Poland in 1944, beaten back by the Soviets…..the retreating Germans burned the fields, and crops and tore up what few roads were left by that point in the war……….the “liberators” (The Soviet Armies) quickly confiscated all farm equipment, including garden hoes if you can believe that and any workable machinery…this was all sent back to the Soviet Union…..the family farm was “collectivized” quickly and what few possessions the family had were “absconded” for payment of “liberation” from the Nazi terror that the Soviet Union “liberated” the Polish people from…..but as MOST forget “mother Russia and Uncle Joe Stalin” was an avid “partner” with Hitler for dividing and gobbling up Poland in 1939……..

    With the farm now gone, which had been in the family for well over 250 years……..they left through the UK and arrived in the USA to start over………

    The Communist purges after Polish liberation from NAZI Germany were no better than the NAZIs themselves

  42. Jason says:

    modsquad. What a horrible, horrible commercial…the lowest common denominator continues to plummet and somehow…that third shoe has dropped. Has it really sunk this low? Bud Lite is brewed with dishwater and soapsuds and any man that drinks it has no business telling me anything.

    At least with the beer I knew as a teenager “Genesee” in upstate New York we had “Batgirl” (Yvonne Craig) doing the commercials in the 1960’s and Genny (as it is nicknamed) is a poor excuse for a beer as well…….but it had Batgirl!!!

  43. Hrodgar says:

    Re: PokeSalad

    It gets worse than that. By making obedience impossible, this huge mass of often mutually exclusive regulations habituates even the best of us to rebellion. And “Non Serviam” is precisely what got us into this mess in the first place.

  44. Oscar says:

    Chicks dig bad boys.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/o-simpson-slides-back-vegas-nightlife-mingles-women-article-1.3562955

    “Looks like O.J.’s still got game — and incredibly, some women are still willing to play along.

    The recently-paroled Simpson — swapping his prison jumpsuit for a white dress shirt and black pants — was spied chatting up a trio of women at a Las Vegas bar this weekend.

    Two were blondes, like the 70-year-old Simpson’s murdered wife Nicole Brown Simpson. The Juice appeared animated in a series of Friday night photos taken inside the Grape Street Wine Bar & Cellar.” ~ NY Daily News

  45. Oscar says:

    On a happier note:

  46. Yet Another Commenter, Yet Another Comment ("Yac-Yac") says:

    Oscar October 16, 2017 at 2:03 pm) wrote:

    “SJWs have no plan to replace the institutions they destroy with anything. It’s destruction for its own sake.”

    Oscar, I have to say that I disagree with you about the dynamic here.

    The “Political Left” (whatever that means exactly: remember, Boxer tells us he’s a “Marxist”¹ … and I ain’t talking about him, here) have always been about the appropriation of things of value, in the name of Virtue, with the excuse of redistribution to the “disadvantaged”, for the actual sake of self-aggrandizement. So, I would argue, here it’s about the appropriation of the Respectability of the targeted social institution itself, in the name of “inclusivity” or some such virtue”-signaling cr@p (that is, people who aren’t respectable are “disadvantaged”, because, well, no respect), while the people doing this get to be — for instance, in a recently canvassed example here on Dalrock, lesbian “Bishops“, which is pretty Grand to be, I’m quite sure.

    OTOH, your point has a great deal of merit, too, because, well, … let’s put it this way.

    Pax Christi Vobiscum
    ——
    [¹:By which I think he means he’s a Hegelian, except not a lot of people know what the heck that means, — but it’s not mine to say what Boxer uses as his lens to view the world, of course …]

  47. Westray says:

    My theory is that women have been fast-tracked to influential positions in Hollywood, ad agencies etc. because of ‘equality’. They didn’t have to prove their creativity or accomplish anything and next thing you know, they are in charge of writing commercials. These are women who have never been creative. So what do they do EVERY TIME? They go to the only narrative they’ve ever known; men are dopes and women are infallible. Again and again, it’s the same shtick, with every commercial.

    1. Denigrate hapless, disappointing males
    2. Applaud flawless, strong, driven, wondrous females
    3. Sell your product.

    Could be soap, cars, beer, candy, socks, whatever. Same narrative over and over, by women who have been ‘equality-ied’ into positions they never merited. There is no creativity at all.

    “Men are stupid and inferior, now let’s look at how nice this cheese is.”

    “Men are stupid and inferior, now let’s look at this gardening tool.”

    “Men are stupid and inferior, now let’s look at these shoes.”

    My guess is that the Geico ad writing staff is overwhelmingly male, if not 100%.

  48. Mark says:

    @Opus

    “”I don’t think they have real ale in America just that ice cold lager which I have to say was in alcoholic terms, weak, compared to its European version. Miller Light is just that and so it is impossible to become intoxicated no matter how much of it one drinks. I thought Prohibition had ended?””

    I cannot stomach American beer…..that is brewed in the USA. If you buy a Budweiser in the UK or Canada it is 5% alc/vol….whereas the USA made is 3%.Even the US made does not say this on the bottle.Ours does.Miller or Coors lite is 1.5%alc/per versus ours which is 4%/alc/vol.Our Lite beer is stronger than USA brewed regular beer. The irony here is that they are the exact same recipe.The Bud that you drink in the UK is the same as I drink here in Toronto.The problem is that the USA made is not cooked long enough……even though they are the same recipe.As we in Canada like to say….”American beer is like making love in a canoe….fucking near water”

  49. rachel says:

    Thanks, Dalrock, I think that hits the mark. I”ll run it by my husband.

  50. rachel says:

    Dalrock. Do you mind deleting my original comment, thanks.

  51. Carnivore says:

    The commercial isn’t complete. After winning, she’s supposed to drink the big guys under the table.

  52. feeriker says:

    After winning, she’s supposed to drink the big guys under the table.

    Whenever that happens things tend to get ugly, fast. Women like that tend to be extremely violent drunks, far more so than men who can’t hold their liquor.

  53. feminist hater says:

    Whenever that happens things tend to get ugly, fast. Women like that tend to be extremely violent drunks, far more so than men who can’t hold their liquor.

    Don’t forget, she is stronger than men, can drink men under the table without breaking a sweat, she’s more responsible, more intelligent and more than capable of defending herself against 10 men but, if she has sex with any man when drunk……. he’s a rapist and she’s an innocent victim being taken advantage of..

  54. Chris says:

    “Of course women have more upper body strength than men. And of course a woman can become one of the guys.”

    And since that’s the case, of course they’d have no objections to being drafted onto the frontlines of combat, right?

    Right?

  55. PokeSalad says:

    Right, I’m sure that multiple white people here are smarter than Neil Degrasse Tyson.

    Since I see no sarcasm font, I’m sure you know that most people other than Tyson know that bats aren’t blind.

  56. Dale says:

    @Bruce
    farting in the gym also helps clear them out.

    Careful Bruce. You are starting to think like a feminist… 🙂 The ugly feminist secret weapon

  57. “Chris says:
    October 17, 2017 at 10:04 am
    “Of course women have more upper body strength than men. And of course a woman can become one of the guys.”

    And since that’s the case, of course they’d have no objections to being drafted onto the frontlines of combat, right?

    Right?

    No way! They don’t want THAT much “equality”! What they want is their usual setup: ‘just enough equality’ so they can become ’90-day wonders’ — rear-echelon officers who stay in air-conditioned offices and sit safely behind the lines, well out of harm’s way.

  58. Oscar says:

    @ Take The Red Pill says:
    October 17, 2017 at 11:44 am

    “No way! They don’t want THAT much ‘equality’! What they want is their usual setup: ‘just enough equality’ so they can become ’90-day wonders’ — rear-echelon officers who stay in air-conditioned offices and sit safely behind the lines, well out of harm’s way.”

    Actually, many of them want to lead combat units, but that’s because it’s been decades since we fought a war with casualty rates like those of WWI, WWII or Korea. Even in Vietnam (as maligned as that war is), American casualty rates didn’t compare with wars past.

  59. More feminist triumphalism.
    It’s so easy a man can do it.

  60. MrWoot says:

    Dank is right.

    “That guy won.”
    “No, that’s a woman”
    “No, they are all guys. I do not see gender”
    “Yeah, well, she identifies as a woman”
    “I am not treating her differently than any other contestant. That guy won”
    “Quit saying guys. That’s sexist”
    “Dude, I do not see gender”
    “I am not a dude!!”
    “Its a generic term for guys like us, bro.”

  61. earlthomas786 says:

    Thoughts on the me too phonemonon?

  62. Oscar says:

    OT: The person most likely to abuse (even murder) a child is that child’s single mother.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/17/atlanta-mom-accused-killing-children-burning-oven-didnt-have-babysitter/

    Lamora Williams, 24, was arrested for allegedly putting her two children, Keyante Penn, two, and Ja’karter Penn, one, in an oven and turning it on, roasting both little ones alive, the Daily Mail reported.

    Williams reportedly quit her job last month because she could not find a babysitter for her children while she went to work. Friends told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that Williams said she was fed up and “couldn’t do it anymore,” referring to dealing with her children.

    On October 14, the woman reportedly sent the children’s father a disturbing video showing the babies unresponsive on the floor of Williams’ apartment. He immediately called police.

    “After I seen what I seen, you know I called the police,” Jameel Penn told the media.

    By the time police arrived, the children were dead and showed signs of burn marks all over their bodies.

  63. @Oscar. Lamora, Ja’Karter, Jameel, Keyante?? Oh the barbarian naming theme…..

    And how about that phonetic foreshadowing? Keyante cooked in the oven? Paging Dr. Lecter:

    “I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.”

  64. Novaseeker says:

    Micros are really popular now anyplace where there are people with income that justifies dropping the cash micros cost as compared with majors. Grocery stores here have a huge amount of space dedicated to micros — it’s almost equal to that dedicated to majors — and even convenience stores normally have a decent stock of micros, both local and national. It’s really a cost issue, though. I live in one of the wealthiest areas in the country, and so micros are very popular here despite the comparatively lavish cost per beer.

  65. Frank K says:

    I cannot stomach American beer…..that is brewed in the USA. If you buy a Budweiser in the UK or Canada it is 5% alc/vol….whereas the USA made is 3%

    Actually, it is typically 5% in the US. That said, there are some states (like Colorado) that have strange “Blue Laws” on the books. The Colorado law stipulates that beer sold in Grocery Stores is limited to 3.2%. However, you can purchase 5%, or higher, at liquor stores. Also, in Colorado, you cannot purchase wine or distilled spirits at grocery stores, as a liquor license is only good at one location, and only one license is granted to the chain. This is why there is only one Trader Joe’s in all of Colorado where you can purchase wine or spirits. It also used to be that you couldn’t purchase alcohol on Sundays, but that law was repealed a few years ago. There has been talk of removing the grocery store restrictions, but it has met strong opposition from the liquor store lobby. It’s on;y a question of time.

    Even the US made does not say this on the bottle

    That is not true, at least not here in Colorado. And regular Coors has 5% alcohol, it just doesn’t have any flavor.

  66. Gunner Q says:

    “Lamora, Ja’Karter, Jameel, Keyante”

    Good solid British names! This must be the real reason identities are being withheld nowadays. “To prevent racial stereotyping, authorities are withholding all descriptions of the five suspects wanted for beating a white male to death outside a convenience store in Oakland… I need a drink… edit that last.”

  67. Bruce says:

    @ Dale
    I think I said it in that post – there’s no way they can out-fart us or out-gross us in general- let them try

  68. Mark says:

    @Frank

    “”However, you can purchase 5%, or higher, at liquor stores.””

    Yes……I have seen those beers in the liquor stores.I find that some of the European beers that I like are the same as we have in Canada.

    “”That is not true, at least not here in Colorado. And regular Coors has 5% alcohol, it just doesn’t have any flavor.””

    I have never seen the alcohol content on any American beer….at least the ones in the grocery stores.The only American beer that I will buy is Rolling Rock….we have it hear also and again when you taste both the US and Canuck versions there is a very noticeable difference.The Canuck version being better as it is stronger and tastier because it is cooked longer.Actaully,when I travel to the US(which is quite often) I bring my own beer.Otherwise,I end up drinking liquor and I prefer to stay away from that stuff.

  69. Novaseeker says:

    That said, there are some states (like Colorado) that have strange “Blue Laws” on the books.

    Lots of states have them, actually. You basically have to know what the laws are when you travel in the US, because they vary wildly. I’d say there are a good number of states which allow beer and wine to be sold in grocery and convenience stores, but there are a lot that don’t, including some populated states. MD only permits it in liquor stores, and I think Indiana is the same. PA only allows beer to be sold in distributors (which are not liquor stores — liquor stores sell wine and booze but not beer). NJ has a quilt of local municipal laws, so you need to know the town’s rules. Overall, it’s just a big mess, and you need to know what the rules are where you are, because there are a lot of surprising laws out there. And that doesn’t even get to the issue of hours (and in some cases days) of retail sale, which really are all over the place.

  70. ordo ab chao says:

    The Pentagram Corp is your first hint.

  71. Apple Appears says:

    She is always shorter. She is looking up to him and smirking. Not exactly an attractive look.

  72. anonymous_ng says:

    @Frank K, I find that Coors Banquet has a similar taste to German pilsners like Warsteiner, and Berliner.

    @Mark, when I was in the military, I had just moved to the East coast from a state with a large micro/craft brewing scene. I asked one of the troops that worked for me if there were any micro-breweries around. He said, well, there’s Rolling Rock up in PA. We were speaking the same language, but not communicating. That said, I find RR to have a taste on par with Sewers Light, but that just goes to show how tastes differ.

    @Novaseeker, don’t forget that in Pennsylvania, all the liquor is sold at state run stores, and even the amazing booze is sold at the suggested price. I have a friend who won the lottery for a bottle of some really awesome bourbon. He got it for $65 or something equally ridiculous where on the auction market it was selling for over $1000.

  73. Scott says:

    I drink very infrequently. In fact, on medical forms I usually put “never” because there is not usually a box for “if I am at a wedding or a friend has me over to watch a football game and the moon and planets are aligned exactly right, and the mood strikes me I might have a drink.”

    I drank A LOT in high school, and for a few years after that, then I just stopped. No real reason, just got bored with it.

    However, I am aware that alcohol is a thing that regular people enjoy from time to time.

    Until I joined the army in 2001, I had never interacted with the concept of “blue laws.” I was living in Fayetteville NC, (stationed at Fort Bragg, which is in Cumberland county) and I was invited to a New Years Eve party. So, I went to the grocery store to buy a bottle of champagne for the hosts.

    I walked around the store forever. I went down every aisle several times and I was stumped. Where was the “wine and spirits” section? So I finally asked someone “I am just trying to buy a bottle of champagne. Where is it?”

    “Lee county” was his reply.

    That was pretty weird.

  74. Lost Patrol says:

    Beer holding with the guys has nothing on this single mom, with two kids, demanding job, and 80 year old mother who told her growing up she could “do anything a man can do”. She built her own house.

    Salient points in first 20 seconds or so.

  75. mmack says:

    @Novaseeker,

    My wife and I moved from Illinois to Indiana this year. In Indiana, you can buy wine, beer, and licqour in grocery stores (at least around Indianapolis where we moved), but their are some weird laws compared to what we were used to in Illinois:

    1. No package licqour sales on Sunday. Go to a restaurant, bar, or brewery, sure, you can buy a drink, but no package sales.
    2. Breweries can fill growlers of beer to go on Sunday, but only if they brew onsite. So I can buy a growler of beer at Sun King in Fishers since they brew onsite, but not the Upland tap house in Carmel since Upland brews in Bloomington, IN.
    3. You can sell beer or white wine at a liquor store or grocery store, but you can’t refrigerate it.🤔 I suppose it’s to cut down on drinking and driving, but if I want to buy a fifth of whiskey and start doing shots . . .

    As to prices, I don’t know where you are in the US, but in Indiana and Michigan craft brews are price competitive with big domestic brewers by the glass. The key is to buy and enjoy at the brewery. If you order a craft beer at a bar or restaurant it’ll be more expensive than a Miller or Budweiser.

    With all of Indiana’s weird laws they do beat Illinois hands down on cost. A $10 growler fill in a brewery in Indiana (and it’s good beer, not swill) would be $20 in Illinois. A $4.50 pint in Indiana is more like $6.50 in Illinois. It’s a stunner to get the bill after a couple of rounds of beer in Illinois compared to Indiana. 😳

  76. Novaseeker says:

    You can sell beer or white wine at a liquor store or grocery store, but you can’t refrigerate it.

    Oh yeah the odd business is around cold beer, I remember now. I think I remember buying cold beer at a liquor store there once, though … maybe the laws have changed. Does anywhere in Indiana sell closed container cold beer to take home, or are you stuck with buying warm or onsite at breweries?

    As to prices, I don’t know where you are in the US, but in Indiana and Michigan craft brews are price competitive with big domestic brewers by the glass. The key is to buy and enjoy at the brewery. If you order a craft beer at a bar or restaurant it’ll be more expensive than a Miller or Budweiser.

    Yep that’s true. I wasn’t thinking about that, but you can also go to craft breweries in Virginia and buy open containers of beer at competitive prices. But if you go to the grocery store the prices for closed containers to bring home are not competitive with majors (of course the quality is very different too).

  77. Girlfielf says:

    Beer chicks are blowhards. They’re just like every other girl, but they go around and imitate fat guys and think that makes them better and “less dramatic” than other women.

  78. Frank K says:

    I have never seen the alcohol content on any American beer

    As others have pointed out, it depends on where you are. In Colorado, since grocery stores can only sell 3.2%, it is clearly labelled, both on the box and on the bottles and cans. Usually they only sell the domestic majors there (Bud, Coors, Miller) but I have also seen imports like Corona, even German beer, with the 3.2 label on them. Go to the liquor store and the majors and imports are are all 5%, and micros can be higher.

    There is another beverage in the US that goes by the name “malt liquor”, which is basically beer with higher alcohol content, as high as 10%.

    That said, if you want a good beer in the US, buy micros. Personally, I like New Belgium products.

    I have found some lesser known (in the US) German beers like Koeningpilsner in the US at prices that are competitive with Bud, Coors or Miller. But I have had Americans tell me, after trying it, that they didn’t like it. The majors brew bland beer because it sells.

  79. Frank K says:

    I walked around the store forever. I went down every aisle several times and I was stumped. Where was the “wine and spirits” section? So I finally asked someone “I am just trying to buy a bottle of champagne. Where is it?”

    “Lee county” was his reply.

    Ah, yes, “dry counties”, where you can’t purchase any alcohol.

    The patchwork of American alcohol laws must be bewildering to foreigners (it’s bewildering for Americans).

    I remember when I saw my first “State Liquor Store”, which was when I visited Utah. The notion that only the state can sell it is curious, even more so when said stores tend to exist mostly in very conservative states. When I moved from California to Colorado, the difference in laws caught me by surprise, as you can buy anything at the supermarket in California. I also wandered around the supermarket, looking for the non existent “wine aisle”. I was then told I had to go to a liquor store, but since it was Sunday they would all be closed. You also can’t buy a car on Sunday in Colorado. But you can buy recreational marijuana. Go figure.

  80. seventiesjason says:

    When I was a hard core drinker….I always enjoyed Samuel Adams. Twice a month I would go to all nighters at the Welsh pub or English pub in SF. They stopped selling at 2am. Norsoul Dancing went on til 6 or 7 am…..I liked Fullers ESB that was served at those places.

    Drank boilermakers when I was sad, and by the end….that was all the time.

    In January, it will be 12 years since my last drink.

  81. seventiesjason says:

    I went to college in Vermont. Only could by liquor / wine in a state run package store. If you were a college student in school in Vermont but it was not your home state, at 21 you got your blue DLC card. (Dept of liquor control). This was back in the early 1990’s it might have changed

  82. Jack Russell says:

    Mark said:
    .Actaully,when I travel to the US(which is quite often) I bring my own beer.Otherwise,I end up drinking liquor and I prefer to stay away from that stuff.

    I live relatively close to Washington State and there are many micro brews which have 5% plus alchohol content. Interesting that some product made in Canada are cheaper there ?!?!

  83. They Call Me Tom says:

    So many quick cuts… apparently the actress maxed out at 5 seconds… and it just got shorter and shorter from there.

  84. Spike says:

    In one of his articles, Rollo stated, “Never, ever, self deprecate”.
    The main reason a man should not self-deprecate is that some very frequently miss sarcasm.
    Whe they hear, “Of course women have more upper arm strength!”, or more famously, “Men can’t multitask!” – they believe it.
    It isn’t due to stupidity as much as it’s due to solipsism.

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  86. Cloudbuster says:

    The Real Peterman says:
    October 16, 2017 at 7:41 pm
    “4) Minorities are smarter than white people.”

    Right, I’m sure that multiple white people here are smarter than Neil Degrasse Tyson.

    I don’t know how smart Tyson is. Famous has low correlation with smart.

    But I be a whole lot of people here are smart enough to know the difference between a statistical average and an individual example.

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