Toxic masculinity and male privilege.

Lew Rockwell describes the toxic masculinity on display in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey (H/T MKT).

USA Today offered a picture of male privilege in this article.

 

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  2. squid_hunt says:

    Look at that guy objectify those women in that boat. What a pig.

  3. Dota says:

    Male privilege led many men to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean over a hundred years ago when a certain ship hit an iceberg. Never again.

  4. Dalrock says:

    @squid_hunt

    Look at that guy objectify those women in that boat. What a pig.

    Indeed. He is treating them like dogs! And it isn’t just one man. It looks like there is a second man oppressing them behind the canoe.

  5. squid_hunt says:

    Indeed. He is treating them like dogs! And it isn’t just one man. It looks like there is a second man oppressing them behind the canoe.

    The funny part is that I lived up in Vermont for a couple years and the women up there actually displayed that attitude. You could hold the door open for a line of people, but the women acted like you were insulting them by doing so. If I saw that attitude, I’d just walk in and let the door close in their face.

  6. rugby11 says:

    Men….

    Fiction and reality… Cultural trauma and saving the other.

  7. Minesweeper says:

    look at the success of the patriarchy here, obviously they have they this happen to stop the women getting to the divorce courts to destroy their families and abortion clinics to kill their kids.

    such blatant misogyny, send in the NOW.

    /kek

  8. Minesweeper says:

    @rugby11 says:”Men….”

    and without a hint of recognition as usual from females.

    On one of the vid clips I saw from the rescues in Houston, where the men saved a woman off a roof, her only reply was – “its good to see everyone pull together” – not – “thank God for the MEN, without them we would all be dead”

    we have a chronic under appreciation of men by women in the western world.

    its said most men “lead lives of quiet desperation”, its prob because the respect and recognition that they require\crave for all their labour and effort is never ever given.

  9. White Guy says:

    Anyone need any help (or just a place to dry your clothes)? I’m in NW Houston, and am high and dry here. Just let me know.

    Quick story: My neighbor (very toxic white man of privilege) was out rescuing people people along Cypress Creek with his duck boat (this was the tax day flood that made the national news last year) and he stopped by the nearby apartments and asked a family if they needed to be evacuated. They said they were ok, if the water got any deeper they would head to the 2nd floor, but here’s the funny part, they then said “we just catch a ride from you later when you come back”! He then told them, ‘no’ that’s not how this works, and left them to go help others. I sure hope they find that ‘uber water taxi’ app on their phone…LOL. People are nuts!

  10. Damn Crackers says:

    Maybe this is the toxic masculinity they are talking about –

  11. Yet Another Commenter, Yet Another Comment ("Yac-Yac") says:

    White Guy:

    Just another example of how people cannot feel gratitude, for that to which they believe themselves entitled.

  12. Embracing Reality says:

    “We just catch a ride from you later when you come back”

    Yeah, this sounds like members of a class of people who have enjoyed the generous charity of others for so long they now feel entitled to it. I’ve experienced this from being on the generous side too many times. Helping people in desperate circumstances is usually warranted but don’t expect them to be thankful every time. In fact you can count on being taken for granted by at least of few. You’re privileged, you owe them..

  13. Anon says:

    I remind everyone about the gender split of war casualties.

    World War II Deaths :
    American men : 300,000
    American women : 16

    VietNam War Deaths :
    American Men : 58,000
    American Women : 8

    So 20,000 to 1 in WW2 and 7500 to 1 in VietNam.

  14. Mistral says:

    I look at those photos, and see all those fish desperately needing those bicycles.

  15. The Question says:

    @Dalrock

    It makes you wonder if all the feminist BS will vanish during a national crisis and people reveal their true colors. Imagine Harvey on a national scale, and one wonders if attitudes toward gender roles will change. Reminds me of that line from Black Hawk Down: “Once that first bullet goes past your head, politics and all that shit just goes right out the window.”

    We’ll have to wait and see what happens when the rubber meets the road. It’ll be especially interesting to see what happens in areas where there are few men or lots of soyface men, compared to areas with “toxic masculinity” men.

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  17. feeriker says:

    Just another example of how people cannot feel gratitude, for that to which they believe themselves entitled.

    My dark side would very much enjoy seeing the look of sheer horror spread across certain entitled, arrogant faces once they realized that they missed their one and only chance at “getting their ssses saved from drowning.”

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  19. Robert What? says:

    Don’t worry everyone. In a while the crisis will be over and we can all get back to denigrating men.

  20. squid_hunt says:

    Don’t worry everyone. In a while the crisis will be over and we can all get back to denigrating men.

    Stupid, useless men…

  21. feeriker says:

    It makes you wonder if all the feminist BS will vanish during a national crisis and people reveal their true colors.

    Those are two separate and unrelated assumptions. As to the first, the answer is no. Not only will the feminist BS not disappear, but the feminists will double down on it to an absolutely psychotic level. The good news about that is that this just may be the straw that will break the white knight’s back, with record new numbers of men FINALLY saying “FUCK YOU, BITCH! You’re on your own now.”

    Imagine Harvey on a national scale, and one wonders if attitudes toward gender roles will change.

    Again, no, at least not until the point of total civilizational collapse – and maybe not even then.

    Reminds me of that line from Black Hawk Down: “Once that first bullet goes past your head, politics and all that shit just goes right out the window.”

    That was a man speaking. Women under identical circumstances will damsel, but otherwise not learn a damned thing from a belt upside the head from reality.

  22. Rum says:

    Just got back from using my boat to help move people. Very emotional. 100s of boats. Cops of all kinds and uniformed military (NG) keeping everything very organized. They said here is where to launch. No drama. As if thousands of civilians showing up to take significant risks in an emergency needed no explanation. As if we were adults who could decide to do this. The most emotional thing about the situation was that so many people seemed to understand something important without being told. As if this was Normal. It is hard to measure, but I would estimate that 2/3s of water rescue-ing is being done by civilian volunteers. Laugh at our big 4 wheel drive trucks if you want, but today, they were the calvary.
    Dam, I am proud.

  23. Dalrock says:

    @Rum

    It is hard to measure, but I would estimate that 2/3s of water rescue-ing is being done by civilian volunteers. Laugh at our big 4 wheel drive trucks if you want, but today, they were the calvary.
    Dam, I am proud.

    That really is something to be proud of. I just don’t see a way government at any level would be able to muster the number of boats that men like you were able bring into action, along with the understanding of how to handle them.

  24. Dalrock says:

    @Rum

    Just got back from using my boat to help move people. Very emotional. 100s of boats. Cops of all kinds and uniformed military (NG) keeping everything very organized. They said here is where to launch. No drama. As if thousands of civilians showing up to take significant risks in an emergency needed no explanation. As if we were adults who could decide to do this. The most emotional thing about the situation was that so many people seemed to understand something important without being told. As if this was Normal.

    That is really powerful. I think entertainment media default to a feminine perspective on anything emotional like this, wanting maximum emoting and drama, with copious amounts of talking. The masculine impulse is the opposite, to quietly guard the dignity of those being rescued while downplaying what are truly extraordinary actions of the rescuers. I see that a woman telling off CNN for trying to feast on her misery is going viral (language warning). Likewise, the ABC reporter in the video I shared yesterday wanted the man with the braided beard to recount the emotion/plight of the people he rescued for the viewers, and instead he guarded their dignity and ended up saying more by refusing to discuss it.

  25. Boxer says:

    Just got back from using my boat to help move people.

    Thank you brother.

  26. Gunner Q says:

    The Question@ 12:02 pm:
    “It makes you wonder if all the feminist BS will vanish during a national crisis and people reveal their true colors.”

    I’d guess it would be a Slut Event Horizon situation, where the women still capable of gratitude or who hadn’t pulled triggers yet would quickly step back while the solipsists tighten their death spiral. Like the reporters Dalrock mentioned who showed up at a massive story that needs no embellishment and reached for quickie feelz in order to pimp pump their ratings. When nothing exists outside of you and your opinions…

    A better question would be, would men take advantage of a crisis to “triage” decent women from the disgusting? And I don’t think men would. Ours is not the vindictive sex. Although I enjoy the mental image of the Cajuns imposing a “no marine animals rescued” rule and leaving the sheggoths to lose some weight. “Look, either I rescue one of you or five of them. Needs of the many, Jabba.” *does Spock salute while sailing away*

  27. ianironwood says:

    I sense some memeage potential here. “Where do I get my white male privilege from? A bass boat, a shotgun, a pickup truck, and a willingness to rescue your incompetent ass when you’re cowering on the roof of your dead Prius, waiting for someone properly authorized to appear and rescue you. You’re welcome.”

  28. RichardP says:

    “Look, either I rescue one of you or five of them. …”

    “That’s OK. You can get me on your next time around.”

  29. Carnivore says:

    Now you spoiled it. For a moment there, I thought these were all topless women pushing the truck out of the water…..

  30. Minesweeper says:

    @gunner

  31. info says:

    @Rum
    Thumbs up 🙂

  32. Scott says:

    As was mentioned on the thread yesterday over the coming days, weeks and months, we will be treated some stories about the fearless women who were also a part of the efforts, because no doubt there is some number above one doing so.

    On social media, some of my most “conservative” friends will share these stories and videos with comments like “show these women some respect!” and so on.

    Macro trends and the generalities that people logically draw from them are only valid when certain groups are made to look good and others bad.

  33. MKT says:

    God bless Rum and the others doing the Lord’s work in Houston. Even if you don’t get much recognition due to your sex/race/sexual preference/political views not being SJW-approved, your reward is in Heaven.

  34. Lost Patrol says:

    Yes, it has begun. Among the hundreds or thousands of men matter-of-factly working to restore order, this highlight made many headlines…

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flooding-khou-reporter-brandi-smith-helps-rescue-truck-driver/

    Brandi flagged down some passing help, then talked everyone through the action.

    “Smith remained on the air for almost 30 minutes by herself. Her camera was rolling as rescuers pulled the truck driver out through a window.”

  35. Minesweeper says:

    sorry Double post.

    “I couldn’t walk away
    I’m going to flag these guys down
    I was terrified. I was absolutely terrified
    I had promised him that help is on the way
    I wasn’t, I wasn’t going to break that promise
    I don’t know if I could have lived …,”

    sharp contrast to the men involved in the effort. Never ceases to amaze me the way women talk as if they are really part of something when they have barely anything to do with it, you hear the words : “we, I , here, us , at” – describing a great collective of which she is an important part. When the men talk they describe something external\isolated to themselves.

  36. Scott says:

    Since we live here in central Texas, and have a lot friends south of here, our FB page (we have a shared “family” page) is quite inundated with hurricane related posts of real-life action. (Not just posting news stories and such). Many friends going down with 4x4s and boats and horse trailers.

    These last few comments got me thinking, it doesn’t seem like any men are posting at all.

    So I went back through–not scientific mind you– and found zero posts from men. But rather all the posts are from women taking pictures and video from the passenger seat of the truck with commentary like “we pulled these horses out of the mud” and “we need more ____. Can anyone help?” While the husband/boyfriend does the work.

    Fascinating.

    And what’s sad about that is not that one should detract from these husband and wife teams that have dropped everything to spend their own money and time and resources to help. These are beautiful selfless people.

    But to not acknowledge who is taking the brunt of the risk because of how egalitarian the language has become is basically lying.

  37. Scott says:

    To add to that comment a bit more.

    It’s the language which creates the narrative context that I’m referring to. It is so permeated and oozed into our collective conscience that almost nobody notices.

    This is what red-pill folks mean when they say it’s like explaining to fish that it is wet. There is basically no starting point from which to begin.

    When I do– all I ever get is shaming language–and the worst of it is from other guys.

  38. Hermilion says:

    After you pick her up, ask if she is feminist or ‘not your woman’ .. if she confirms – drop her in that water and let her walk.

  39. @Scott:

    There’s a double-layered issue. The “Big Lie” has to be defended, even among “conservative Christians”. It’s the nature of false doctrine: if you don’t double down, you have to confront the failure without any frame of reference to understand it. You see this most of the time when the Lord gives someone some deep insight to what troubles them. 90% of the time they take the wrong lesson from the information.

    The second issue is that popular Social Media is cat-nip for Women. That’s why it’s mostly them posting. It gives Women that attention they’re normally after. Which is its own problem.

  40. Oleaginous Outrager says:

    “not – “thank God for the MEN, without them we would all be dead””

    That’s what underlies all the “white guys are so lame” sniping at things like Nolan’s Dunkirk movie: white guys doing heroic things is just taken for granted. Of course, if they didn’t step up every time, oh the tears and lamenting that would arise!

    Speaking of the movies:

  41. earlthomas786 says:

    Things like Cultural Marxism and feminism disappear when real life happens.

    Bill Burr said it right (paraphrasing)…when the building is burning even a hardcore feminist will twist her hair into pigtails and become a woman needing a man.

  42. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Just got back from using my boat to help move people. Very emotional. 100s of boats. Cops of all kinds and uniformed military (NG) keeping everything very organized. They said here is where to launch. No drama. As if thousands of civilians showing up to take significant risks in an emergency needed no explanation. As if we were adults who could decide to do this. The most emotional thing about the situation was that so many people seemed to understand something important without being told. As if this was Normal.’

    Thank you for your service. Amazing that it has to take a huge natural disaster to bring out the normal in people to do extraordinary things.

  43. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘So I went back through–not scientific mind you– and found zero posts from men. But rather all the posts are from women taking pictures and video from the passenger seat of the truck with commentary like “we pulled these horses out of the mud” and “we need more ____. Can anyone help?” While the husband/boyfriend does the work.’

    Women are more social creatures…and men focus with the task at hand until it’s over. Again it’s explaining to a fish that it is wet.

  44. earlthomas786 says:

    OT…but I thought today’s first reading is worth sharing

    Reading 1 1 Thes 2:1-8

    You yourselves know, brothers and sisters,
    that our reception among you was not without effect.
    Rather, after we had suffered and been insolently treated,
    as you know, in Philippi,
    we drew courage through our God
    to speak to you the Gospel of God with much struggle.
    Our exhortation was not from delusion or impure motives,
    nor did it work through deception.
    But as we were judged worthy by God to be entrusted with the Gospel,
    that is how we speak,
    not as trying to please men,
    but rather God, who judges our hearts.
    Nor, indeed, did we ever appear with flattering speech, as you know,
    or with a pretext for greed–God is witness–
    nor did we seek praise from men,
    either from you or from others,
    although we were able to impose our weight as Apostles of Christ.
    Rather, we were gentle among you,
    as a nursing mother cares for her children.
    With such affection for you, we were determined to share with you
    not only the Gospel of God, but our very selves as well,
    so dearly beloved had you become to us.

  45. Chris says:

    “Maybe this is the toxic masculinity they are talking about –”

    No, no. The guy in that video is black, and it’s only we White males who are capable of being toxic. Silly rabbit!

  46. Lost Patrol says:

    all the posts are from women taking pictures and video from the passenger seat of the truck with commentary like “we pulled these horses out of the mud” and “we need more ____. Can anyone help?”

    “Can anyone help?” – This is the most common response of a woman to any problem involving actual danger or any sort of uncontrolled situation. I don’t take issue with it, because what else is she really going to be able to do when a job clearly calls for the unique capabilities of men? A woman as a lookout, operating the communications, calming children, etc.; can be useful. She can help in that way, by doing her real job in these situations of assisting the men.

    But as Scott is pointing out, the smoke screen is always there, in how the action is portrayed or described, so that the actual roles of men and women are conflated into an approved narrative.

    Discussed at Dalrock fairly recently:
    – US Navy boats captured by Iranians without a struggle. All male crewmen received actual military punishments for this, while the one woman aboard was awarded a commendation medal for getting on the radio and calling for help.
    – Movie about Gulf oil spill features woman in key role on the platform. She got on the radio and called for help.
    – Brandi the news girl’s crisis actions are nationally lauded. She saw some law enforcement passing by, waved them down, and called for help.

  47. UK Fred says:

    @Rum and *all* the others who are working to rescue residents marooned in their homes , cars workplaces and wherever else. Thank you for using what God has given you to help these people who have been affected by the flooding. May the Lord bless you for your generous-spirited acts of kindness. May the mean-spirited criticism of those who see what you have been doing as ‘male privilege’ (whatever that is) rebound on them to teach them the error of their ways.

  48. infowarrior1 says:

    @Rum

    God bless you and your heroic efforts.

  49. PokeSalad says:

    Brandi flagged down some passing help, then talked everyone through the action.

    Like Earhart riding in the back of that plane.

  50. Hmm says:

    Way off topic but rife for discussion, the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) has released a new statement on Biblical sexuality:
    https://cbmw.org/topics/news-and-announcements/cbmw-releases-coalition-statement-on-biblical-sexuality/

  51. feministhater says:

    I just love that these gents show that instead of the learned helplessness instilled in people by government, they just get out there and do it. The feeling of not being helpless in such a situation is a motivation in itself.

  52. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    More male privilege — The Atlantic exposes yet another burning injustice: Why are there so few women audio engineers? https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/why-arent-there-more-women-working-in-audio/537663/

    Keyes works in a profession that has long been notoriously dominated by men. In 2000, the Audio Engineering Society’s (AES) women in audio committee — which is now, tellingly, defunct — loosely estimated that 5 percent of those working in the field were female.

    A 2016 survey by AES found 7 percent of its members were women, though that number is incomplete because participants could opt out of reporting their gender. According to Women’s Audio Mission (WAM), a nonprofit that trains women for sound careers, that number is probably lower.

    With men holding the vast majority of technical jobs in audio, it follows that virtually all the music we hear — on the radio, over headphones, or in a live venue — has been shaped by a man.

  53. Kevin says:

    This display of patriarchal oppression sickens me. When will be free of this evil historical nightmare of men selflessly saving everyone around them?

  54. Spike says:

    @Rum
    You’re a good man.

  55. Oscar says:

    Interestingly, I don’t recall seeing all these civilian rescues when Hurricane Sandy flooded New York.

  56. melmoth says:

    “It makes you wonder if all the feminist BS will vanish during a national crisis and people will reveal their true colors.”

    The true colors have already been very well revealed imo. Showing some deference when their life is being saved is not ‘true colors.’ The true colors are right now, anywhere outside of SE Texas. We’ve had almost 50 years of true colors and it’s very nasty stuff.

    Outside of major natural disasters, any huge, culture-altering crisis will simply be blamed on men. Even, natural disasters might be blamed on men. So, no, imo, a nat’l crisis will only invigorate the “Man Up” shaming. The female part in the nat’l crisis will NEVER be acknowledged by anyone, in any way.

  57. They Call Me Tom says:

    When I saw one of those ‘toxic priveledge’ memes showing what men do for women in hard times… I immediately reposted it.

    Funny thing is, the members of the extended family and the female acquaintances who are all in on misandry couldn’t come up with a virtue signal or a shaming tactic to respond. Not a one.

  58. Swanny River says:

    I will be that guy in this thread – i don’t like the meme because it reminds me too much of Job trying to justify himself rather than God. Of course men and authority is debased, but a Facebook pushback is not effective at anything lasting and meaningful. If i had my druthers, the meme would be God’s judgement will be quick and overwhelming, as in the days of Noah, so repent while there is light in the day. I don’t like husbands and men becoming just another identity group in the culture war, where our victories are reduced to selling a positive image. A plague on those who knowingly reject Jesus and the male authority and family primacy He established.

  59. squid_hunt says:

    Somebody going to tell Swanny he just literally virtue signalled?

  60. Swanny River says:

    I am slow this morning. I will own it if i can understand it. Who am i signaling- that’s an honest question.
    I will add a bit more, i think it is wrong for Bush and Romney and the establishment right to not punch back, but because the Republican party is notfrom God, like being the head of a family is. The God-given nature of being a man means I think it is maintained differently. Probably through lots of in-home and at church individual combat. I should confront each of my elders and point there blue pill errors out, and i should vigorously argue with my pastor to openly preach against VAWA, police who enforce it, and custody laws. IMO, that is where that battlefield lies. Dalrock does well in giving examples of the feminist stronghold, and is an excellent encourager for fighting the battles that are available to me. And if a flood or catastrophe hits in my area, then I hope to do well like Rum is doing, but if so, i don’t want someone using a photo of me for Facebook. The gift of manliness is apparent to all, just like other traces of God in nature are, so if fems reject it, i am not wanting my photo to convince them otherwise. I guess God even uses bumper stickers to reach people, so i acknowledge there is a place for Facebook memes that glorify God, but something about it still strikes me as out of place.

  61. Hmm says:

    Some telling comments on masculine and feminine roles, and the usefulness of civilization, from “After Eden”:
    http://thinktheology.co.uk/blog/article/after_eden1#When:09:45:00Z

  62. Hmm says:

    Sorry, my last should be ‘from “Eden”‘.

  63. Boxer says:

    I will add a bit more, i think it is wrong for Bush and Romney and the establishment right to not punch back, but because the Republican party is notfrom God, like being the head of a family is. The God-given nature of being a man means I think it is maintained differently.

    The American Republican party has been, from the beginning, designed to be a minority party. Its purpose is not to govern, but to secure freebies and benefits for a select few wealthy people. This is why the establishment party fights any republican who threatens to remake the landscape, and start to govern. They did it with Eisenhower, Reagan, and now Trump.

    If you want to see the typical republican / establishment rightist, look at (the appropriately named) Mike Crapo, from Idaho. His greatest accomplishment was renewing VAWA. Even Barack Obama had reservations about it at first; but the republican faggots’ tireless work on behalf of feminism shoved it through, so another generation of American kids can grow up without fathers.

    Probably through lots of in-home and at church individual combat. I should confront each of my elders and point there blue pill errors out, and i should vigorously argue with my pastor to openly preach against VAWA, police who enforce it, and custody laws. IMO, that is where that battlefield lies.

    You have my support.

    Dalrock does well in giving examples of the feminist stronghold, and is an excellent encourager for fighting the battles that are available to me. And if a flood or catastrophe hits in my area, then I hope to do well like Rum is doing, but if so, i don’t want someone using a photo of me for Facebook. The gift of manliness is apparent to all, just like other traces of God in nature are, so if fems reject it, i am not wanting my photo to convince them otherwise. I guess God even uses bumper stickers to reach people, so i acknowledge there is a place for Facebook memes that glorify God, but something about it still strikes me as out of place.

    You’ve hit upon something really interesting with this. Technology brings about a certain form of being. Heidegger called it enframing. Facebook itself promotes the illusion of connectedness, without the need to ever interact with other people. Facebook necessarily co-opts any healthy message, flattens it out, deworlds it, and shears it of its meaning.

    Best,

    Boxer

  64. Yet Another Commenter, Yet Another Comment ("Yac-Yac") says:

    Rum @ August 29, 2017 at 3:12 pm:

    Thank you.

    Pax Christi Vobiscum

  65. squid_hunt says:

    The main problem, from what I see is that all of progressivism is based on lies and idealism separated from reality. We as a society have swallowed it wholesale to the point that we’re willing to destroy someone for telling the truth, no matter the evidence, and then proclaim that we’re fighting justice. Do I think this behavior is evil and satanic? Yes.

    These memes are simple and they’re truth. No matter how stupid people act, when things get rough, it’s men society relies on to bring us out of it, generally speaking, white, working class men.

    The Bible word for virtue literally means “acting manly” in the sense of praiseworthiness. These are virtuous acts by definition. If people want to celebrate that, I don’t see how that ties in with Job justifying himself. They aren’t railing against God. They’re mocking feminist lies. Sarcasm is a well-established form of rebuke in the Bible.

    As far as virtue signalling:

    A plague on those who knowingly reject Jesus and the male authority and family primacy He established.

    Christ said he came not to condemn. Your statement comes across pretty harsh. It ain’t that time yet.

  66. Gunner Q says:

    Oscar @August 30, 2017 at 10:15 pm:
    “Interestingly, I don’t recall seeing all these civilian rescues when Hurricane Sandy flooded New York.”

    It may have been logistics. That’s a very dense city, no room to store boats or move them around.

    The stories I heard, the 1965 NY Blackout saw the same behavior as Houston today–ordinary guys rescuing people stranded in elevators and subways, keeping things together. The 1977 NY blackout saw riots and other vibrant behavior.

  67. Original Laura says:

    Technical question:

    There was reporting yesterday about a 25-year-old man who was electrocuted when he and a friend went back to his flooded house to rescue a cat. There was a broken landscape light in the flooded front yard and he tripped and fell and caught himself by grabbing a metal lamp pole.

    With so many men operating metal boats in areas where they cannot know what is underneath them, and with so many flood victims walking for miles on flooded streets to get to dry land, why haven’t there been more electrocutions? During the initial storm/hurricane, there must have been a great number of landscape lights, etc., that were broken by falling branches, and there must be many improperly installed and/or maintained outdoor electrical installations. I assumed that the power company would try to turn off the power to the heavily flooded areas, but maybe this just isn’t possible.

    Also, does the plumbing still work in flooded areas, and is the water still drinkable? I was very surprised to see the Cajun Navy refilling jerry cans and the gas tanks on their boats at flooded gas station. Again, I assumed that once the gas station flooded, the electricity to the pumps would have been shut off due to electrocution concerns.

    I live in the South, and have relatives in Louisiana. I guarantee you that many of the men in the Cajun Navy who have taken time off without pay from their jobs to rescue people have made a significant financial sacrifice, and the news outlets have made no mention of that aspect at all. It is very typical for men with average or below-average incomes in Louisiana to have a pretty good boat, as hunting and fishing are incredibly popular in the “Sportsmen’s Paradise,” so few of the men doing the rescuing are wealthy men who set their own schedules. At the very least, they are giving up their vacation days. It goes without saying that they are very brave to get involved with the rescue at all. Some of the rescued have behaved badly by trying to rush en masse onto a small boat, or firing guns at rescue boats that didn’t stop for them, etc. There are multiple ways to get killed by participating in the rescue, and the men who are doing it are very brave. Some of the rescued seem to understand this, while others have a huge sense of entitlement.

  68. Dalrock says:

    @Original Laura

    Also, does the plumbing still work in flooded areas, and is the water still drinkable? I was very surprised to see the Cajun Navy refilling jerry cans and the gas tanks on their boats at flooded gas station. Again, I assumed that once the gas station flooded, the electricity to the pumps would have been shut off due to electrocution concerns.

    I’m not sure on the water being potable or the risk of electrocution. But I asked my father about the filling station in the video where they are floating their boats into the pump bay (he knows that tech well). He said the fuel pump is submersed inside the underground tank, and the electrical conduits to the pump are pretty well sealed. He also said the openings where the tanker truck refills the tanks are sealed with a gasket, which “almost always” works. Flood water also shouldn’t make it into the venting system because of vapor recovery systems. So as long as the station has electricity, etc, the underground fuel should remain uncontaminated. However, they won’t be able to refill the underground tanks until the water has subsided around the area where the tanker drops the fuel, otherwise when they open the hatches the water would drain in.

  69. Gunner Q says:

    Original Laura @ 10:18 am:
    “With so many men operating metal boats in areas where they cannot know what is underneath them, and with so many flood victims walking for miles on flooded streets to get to dry land, why haven’t there been more electrocutions?”

    They don’t ground themselves. Electricity always follows a path, meaning there must be an endpoint as well as a startpoint. It’s the same reason birds don’t get electrocuted when they sit on utility pole wires. Standing on a wet electrical outlet won’t hurt unless you grab something conductive and you’re the shortest path the electricity can follow to it.

    Gloves and rubber boots help make the human body a very poor path for electricity.

    “does the plumbing still work in flooded areas”

    No. When the sewer mains are flooded, by definition they aren’t draining. You might get a few flushes because the toilet presumably isn’t level with the floodwater but if the floodwater is moving then you might as easily get backpressure.

    “is the water still drinkable”

    No. Flooding introduces all kinds of contaminants from dirt to sewage to drowned vermin.

    “was very surprised to see the Cajun Navy refilling jerry cans and the gas tanks on their boats at flooded gas station.”

    Gas stations are designed to prevent water from ever mixing with the gasoline. Water is very bad for internal combustion engines because the pistons compress the fuel before ignition and water won’t compress. I’m not sure how the pumps were still working but so long as they visually checked the gas for water contamination, no problem there.

    “…or firing guns at rescue boats that didn’t stop for them, etc.”

    Well, that’s one way to get cleaned out of the gene pool. The savvy rescuer will have one plan for victims and another plan for looters. Don’t volunteer for Plan B.

  70. Embracing Reality says:

    Electricity always seeks ground or level. Water is a good conductor of electricity but a flood represents a conductor so massive the voltage drops to nil or seeks ground. It’s the ocean at this point. The danger would be in a smaller concentration of water, like bathing with a hairdryer in a bathtub is a man in a flooded basement of a house with the power on. These guys would need to be very cautious getting close to power sources. Downed power lines can be deadly in here situations. some may approach 20,000 volts, I wouldn’t get very close to power lines underwater even though they may not be live. The greater danger of being electricuited at this point is probably being out or partially out of the water on wet ground between a power source. The 25yo man became the circuit or path to ground when he touched a live power source seeking ground.

    These men need to be careful. Over confidence is the biggest danger here.

  71. Chris says:

    Suspect the fellow in the pic carrying the woman and child is a cop, given his “SWAT” hat and the badge on his belt. Hard to see in the picture at Rockwell, but Heartiste put up a better one, and the badge is far more visible.

  72. Oscar says:

    Off topic, but relevant to the times:

    The CBMW is getting torn apart for their “Nashville Statement”, which The Blaze describes thusly.

    “The articles contained in the Nashville Statement are a simple declaration of Christian orthodoxy on human sexuality, sin, sexual orientation, and identity.”

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/31/the-nashville-statement-on-biblical-human-sexuality-what-it-says-and-how-critics-have-responded/

    Much of the criticism directed at the CBMW comes from professing Christians, and of course, most of it is profane and hateful, which I think teaches a very important lesson.

    As Dalrock has pointed out numerous time, the CBMW bends over backwards to placate feminists. It doesn’t work. Jesus warned us that the World would hate us.

    John 8:12 Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

    John 3:19 This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

    Matt 5:14 “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden

    John 15:18 “If the world hates you, [e]you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know the One who sent Me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have [f]sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 He who hates Me hates My Father also.

    The CBMW attempts to compromise with the World, and the World still hates them. The World will only love us if we bend the knee and surrender the whole gospel. The only appropriate response, then, is no compromise. None. Not comma, not a dot over an i.

  73. JasonF says:

    @Chris: August 31, at 3:47 pm

    The man carrying the woman & child is Houston SWAT officer Daryl Hudeck. The other man is the husband of the woman and the father of the child. For more details, see
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/28/felt-relief-story-behind-touching-photo-baby-asleep-harvey-rescue

    The comments at Heartiste give an interesting perspective. The husband & wife are South Asian. In their culture, Hudeck is a servile beta, doing the grunt work for the Asian man and his family. Hence the woman will have little respect for Hudeck as a man.

    That perspective is obviously different from that of most people in the West. One illustration is here:

  74. Gunner Q says:

    The Nashville Statement would be a good next post, hint hint.

  75. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘In their culture, Hudeck is a servile beta, doing the grunt work for the Asian man and his family. Hence the woman will have little respect for Hudeck as a man.’

    That might be their culture…but the proof is what the kid did when he felt a sense of safety after the mother felt a sense of safety.

  76. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Mom “shocked” because Disney refused to allow her 3-year-old son to attend a Princess Party, saying “it was only for girls. (Disney quickly apologized)

    http://wwlp.com/2017/08/31/disney-apologizes-after-boy-told-he-couldnt-attend-princess-party/

    Disneyland Paris has apologized to a 3-year-old British boy who was told he couldn’t dress up as a princess because he’s a boy.

    Noah McLean-Glass is a huge fan of Elsa from the hit film “Frozen.”

    His mother says he loves to wear his “Elsa dress” – even to bed.

    When his family planned a trip to Disneyland Paris, they thought it would be fun for him to take part in the “princess for a day” event.

    But his mother was shocked when she was told boys could not take part – that the event was for girls only.

    “I was so angry I literally couldn’t stop shaking for half an hour afterwards, it’s just – I was so shocked…

  77. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Wow. It just keeps on getting worse. I just discovered an (apparently famous) 8-year-old drag queen.

  78. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Even more remarkable, the woman criticizing this drag queen boy has tattoos and pink hair.

    Yes, even the fat, tattooed, pink-haired woman is shocked by this.

  79. Hmm says:

    Apparently, there’s not supposed to be such a thing as “toxic femininity”:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/31/all-female-lord-flies-remake-faces-backlash-misses-point-women/

    “Women wouldn’t act like that.”

  80. Hmm says:

    I have read “The Nashville Statement”. I think it is a very solidly Christian piece that rejects homosexuality and the trans movement. Even with red pill glasses on, I saw nothing objectionable.

    Of course, it deals only with that topic, and not with male / female relationships in general, on which CBMW is much weaker.

  81. info says:

    @Red Pill Latecomer
    Mark 9:42
    ”Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea.”

  82. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    If you watch the video, you’ll see that 8-year-old is not just a drag queen. He also performs in night clubs, dancing before cheering, leering men.

    His mother is also featured. Apparently she thinks it appropriate to have an 8-year-old perform late at night, before leering pedophiles.

    The comments on the YouTube thread are hopeful. Almost everyone (but not everyone) thinks this is sick, and wonders why child services does not intervene. One commentator notes that the child’s mother has turned him into a pole dancer for pedophiles.

  83. Yet Another Commenter, Yet Another Comment ("Yac-Yac") says:

    Brother Boxer:

    Martin Heidegger is (was) an unreconstructed, unapologetic, actual effing Nazi. You know? The Nazi-Nazi kind of Nazi. He was the chief Philosophical apologist for the whole suppurating zit. The corruption he spread (as one would expect from the influence of a philosopher) was subtle and far reaching: Hannah Arendt, his Jewish life-long lover, wrote Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil under his influence — a book, the entire purpose of which, was to trivialize the Horror of True Evil, as “banality”. It is a work of Nazi Apologetics: trash-thought in the service of the vile, and of the most corrosively numbing, and numbingly corrosive kind. Allegedly profound insight into the Nature Evil, which is in fact itself a sock-puppet voice for that which is genuinely Evil by Nature. This is how ideas, qua ideas, become enslaved to the purposes of Calvin’s Total Depravity, yo. That sort of festering intelectual ooze, is Heidegger’s actual, true intellectual (and moral) legacy.

    Etc., etc.

    I am pretty sure (from what & how you write), that you know all about all that.

    What’s a good (I do not use that word ironically) self-professed Marxist like you, doing, citing this S.O.B.?

  84. Spike says:

    Jason F
    @Chris: August 31, at 3:47 pm

    ”The man carrying the woman & child is Houston SWAT officer Daryl Hudeck. The other man is the husband of the woman and the father of the child. For more details, see
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/28/felt-relief-story-behind-touching-photo-baby-asleep-harvey-rescue

    The comments at Heartiste give an interesting perspective. The husband & wife are South Asian. In their culture, Hudeck is a servile beta, doing the grunt work for the Asian man and his family. Hence the woman will have little respect for Hudeck as a man”.

    -This is a common, but unfortunate attitude that many, many non-Western people have. Vox Day has alluded to it, and it is very common in ”multicultural” workplaces with a high number of non-Westerners. Is there a mess? They don’t clean it. Western men do. Dirty jobs like growing food, servicing cars? – white Western men. Digging coal or drilling oil out of the ground? -yep, Western men. The reason the white / Christian / patriarchal man is denigrated is that he has made the best ever functional civilization. Thus he is envied and feared.

  85. Minesweeper says:

    @scott, as if on cue

    “The moment was captured on video by Stephanie Mata, who had been driving along the non-flooded part of the road at the time.
    “It just shows how we Texas people can come together as one,” she said, “and we will pull through this as one”.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41101712

    just lurve how its people not men. a couple of token women are playing a part, but not required and not anywhere near the critical parts of the operation. will these women A) ever-understand thats its men doing the rescuing and B) stop grandstanding for someone elses achievement’s ?

    are women really this utterly stupid ?

  86. Anon says:

    Minesweeper,

    will these women A) ever-understand thats its men doing the rescuing and B) stop grandstanding for someone elses achievement’s ?

    are women really this utterly stupid ?

    On this, I actually don’t blame women. Why should they NOT take credit when most men are desperate to GIVE them credit for what they don’t do :

    Cuckservatives never tire of finding ways to claim that women are better than men.
    ‘White Nationalists’ always say ‘white people invented this’, but NEVER, EVER specify that it was white men, not women, who did this. They are happy to let women get half (often much more than half) of the credit. White Nationalism is a goddess cult, as many ‘sphere bloggers have often pointed out.

    Why should women turn down what is delivered to them on a platter at all times?

  87. Minesweeper says:

    Will this take ?

    The road to recovery will be long and difficult. But as @POTUS Trump said, we will endure & we will overcome. pic.twitter.com/ORUeJ79663— Vice President Pence (@VP) August 31, 2017

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  88. Minesweeper says:

    try again .

  89. Minesweeper says:

    Its good to see the females finally play their part while the VP runs around clearing someones lot.

    https://ibb.co/mHJ0rk

  90. Minesweeper says:

    And again :

  91. Minesweeper says:

    @Anon says:”
    On this, I actually don’t blame women. Why should they NOT take credit when most men are desperate to GIVE them credit for what they don’t do :”
    Why should women turn down what is delivered to them on a platter at all times?”

    this is true, I never hear the end of men praising their wives for the tiniest thing (who are also manipulating and screwing them over royally everyday – and they not only know it but boast about it)

    seems the level of achievement from a teenage girl from a women is cause for celebration once they are married. they really do get immensely praised for doing absolutely SFA. the idiot praising men are of course ardent feminists, who quite frankly you couldnt put reason into them with a 4×2.

    although amusingly, they most of them seemed to suffer a ruinous divorce (and of course run back into being married) or end up having affairs with men, I kid you not. you reap what you sow you f8888ers.

  92. Minesweeper says:

    @scott, if you can you should rename some of those vids on your feeds “woman makes valiant rescue effort and risks life with mobile phone recording while husband follows her instructions.”

  93. Boxer says:

    ‘White Nationalists’ always say ‘white people invented this’, but NEVER, EVER specify that it was white men, not women, who did this. They are happy to let women get half (often much more than half) of the credit. White Nationalism is a goddess cult, as many ‘sphere bloggers have often pointed out.

    If you want to see the biggest manginas on the planet, look no further than stormfront dot com, where they worship white women like gods, and blame all their misbehavior on men (i.e. Jewish men, black men, etc.)

    The one benefit of these idiots is an excellent opportunity for people who want to hone their trolling skills. Go to one of the white pride sites, and point out the well-established fact that Euro refugees never seem to be molesting white housewives. Sluts who go out on New Years Eve to have sex with random men are getting treated like the sluts that they are. Sluts complain because the newly arrived men don’t jump through the hoops like the domesticated variety. That’s the real truth of the matter. The Arabs and Africans see the sluts of Europe for what they are, and treat them accordingly.

    Boxer

  94. Oscar says:

    Some people wait for the government to save them. Others save the government.

  95. MKT says:

    Charlie Hedbo’s cover portrays the TX victims as “neo-nazis.” Wow, you can’t make this stuff up. Insane. I guess they realize that TX Christians won’t come in their office and murder CH staff members.
    http://www.thewrap.com/charlie-hebdo-mocks-harvey-victims-as-nazis-in-despicable-cover-photo/

  96. Gunner Q says:

    Hmm @ August 31, 2017 at 8:44 pm:
    “I think it is a very solidly Christian piece that rejects homosexuality and the trans movement. Even with red pill glasses on, I saw nothing objectionable.

    “Of course, it deals only with that topic, and not with male / female relationships in general, on which CBMW is much weaker.”

    The relevant phrase is “deck chairs on the Titanic”. Tradcons won’t confront female rebellion, which they approve of, so they talk endlessly about something they don’t. It’s no different than their shaming men for using porn while not saying a word about why men are using porn.

    Benedict Arnold will fearlessly protect us from the French. Unfortunately, we’re at war with the English.

  97. Just Saying says:

    They call it “toxic masculinity” till they are in trouble… It is as simple as that… Never listen to what a woman says – look at their actions, they will spout BS all day long. It is as simple as that…

  98. ray says:

    Just Saying — “ANTIFA = Anti-First-Amendment Terrorists…”

    ANTIFA = ANTI – FAther. Just like Feminism, Commie/Marxism, Liberalism, Atheism, and nowdays, even ‘Conservatism’. The world cannot be Made A Better Place until Father and fatherhood have been completely destroyed. Masculinity itself is ‘toxic’ and therefore, it is only right and proper that it, also, be destroyed — happily and profitably. A nation of Justice and Equality demands it!

    Instead of loving and cherishing that God is Father, i.e., unashamedly and fundamentally masculine, they hate and resent the essence of all Creation. And now their hatred and resentment is the Law of the Land, everywhere in the western world. As increasingly more children are raised without a dad, the hatred and resentment only increase, and eventually children are conditioned and formally schooled in evil, at home and in training. Lucifer’s agenda is now the West’s agenda, led by America.

    But, uh, MAGA! The only thing that matters is The Wall! Yeah baby MAGA! lol

    “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5)

  99. Swanny River says:

    Squid Hunt,
    I am slow to reply, but thanks for your feedback. I think i see whwere our disagreement comes from. You saw and applaud the celebratory parts of the responses while I noticed and responded to the snarky or “take this” tones. Listen, I encourage your celebration of strength being displayed in good works, and agree.
    The original photo is called toxic masculinity and is sarcastic IMO, and my first post here was stirred by one that talked of these photos silencing some feminazis, both things which are different than a Godly praise. That is why I saw a comparison to Job, because when he was wronged by Satan, he thought about himself, and when American men are wronged by the culture, we are saying, “AH Ha” we told you we are useful. My comparison isn’t excellent and I can see how a person wouldn’t see it if they were looking at the praise part of this.

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