The first commandment with a promise.

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the LORD your God is giving you.

–Exodus 20:12, ESV

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  2. Dale says:

    +1. (Nothing to add to the word of God)

  3. cnystrom62 says:

    +1 from me, too.

  4. BillyS says:

    The pastor of my church took a brief time to have all fathers stand up and get praised today. He then went onto the main sermon with no man bashing at all.

    I did complement him on it, but that seemed to go right over his head however, so I won’t waste my time either way in the future.

  5. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Canadian law pressures schools to ban Bible verses offensive to gays: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/religion/alberta-christian-school-fights-board-request-to-remove-offensive-scripture

    A small-town Alberta Christian academy is worried its religious freedom is under fire after its board asked the school to stop teaching “offensive” scripture….

    Skori followed up, saying that “any scripture that could be considered offensive to particular individuals should not be read or studied in school.” She clarified in a separate email, “For example: any teachings that denigrate or vilify someone’s sexual orientation.”

    BRSD spokesperson Diane Hutchinson said the board felt compelled to make the request after protections for gender and sexual minorities were added to the Alberta Human Rights Act in late 2015.

    “In our province there is a heightened awareness and a heightened sensitivity” around LGBTQ issues, she said, downplaying concerns of censorship.

    Ironic, that today Christians enjoy more religious freedom in Russia than in Canada.

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  7. Luke says:

    Dalrock, you might find this “touted in the news” essay to be worth checking out, if only to refute it:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448727/diane-medved-three-divorce-causes-avoid

    It is so clueless, where would you begin? It hardly did a proper job covering unbounded female hypergamy, women’s premarital Ns going through the roof, the divorce court Auschwitz for ex-husband’s futures, the effects of divorce upon children, any of those.

  8. feministhater says:

    A Happy Father’s Day to you Dalrock and all other fathers on the forum. Have a great day with your families.

  9. ys says:

    Happy Father’s Day Dalrock. Thanks for the blog and the work you do.

  10. Otto Lamp says:

    @Luke,

    I heard her on her husband’s (Michael Medved) radio show.

    Pros:

    She points out that people are better off staying married; that those who canceled their divorce and remained married ended up happier than those who got divorced (I believe Dalrock has noted this in the past). She explains that the most women regret getting divorced after the fact.

    Cons:

    She is 100% blue pill. She is oblivious (or willfully blind) to the fact that women initiate 2/3 of divorces, and the reasons young men today are avoiding marriage.

    I view her as a glass half full. She is making the argument–to women–that divorce isn’t the “Eat, Pray, Love nirvana” it is portrayed as in the press. And, since she is a woman, there is the chance that some women will listen to her.

  11. Chad says:

    Happy Father’s Day. This blog has made me a better one. Appreciate dalrock and commenters.

  12. Emperor Constantine says:

    Thanks for your blog, Dalrock, and the people who comment here.

  13. Emperor Constantine says:

    RESPONSIBILITIES TO PARENTS* (Sirach, Chapter 3)
    1
    Children, listen to me, your father;
    act accordingly, that you may be safe.
    2
    For the Lord sets a father in honor over his children
    and confirms a mother’s authority over her sons.
    3
    Those who honor their father atone for sins;
    4
    they store up riches who respect their mother.
    5
    Those who honor their father will have joy in their own children,
    and when they pray they are heard.
    6
    Those who respect their father will live a long life;
    those who obey the Lord honor their mother.
    7
    Those who fear the Lord honor their father,
    and serve their parents as masters.
    8
    In word and deed honor your father,
    that all blessings may come to you.a
    9
    A father’s blessing gives a person firm roots,
    but a mother’s curse uproots the growing plant.b
    10
    Do not glory in your father’s disgrace,
    for that is no glory to you!
    11
    A father’s glory is glory also for oneself;
    they multiply sin who demean their mother.c
    12
    My son, be steadfast in honoring your father;
    do not grieve him as long as he lives.d
    13
    Even if his mind fails, be considerate of him;
    do not revile him because you are in your prime.
    14
    Kindness to a father will not be forgotten;
    it will serve as a sin offering—it will take lasting root.
    15
    In time of trouble it will be recalled to your advantage,
    like warmth upon frost it will melt away your sins.
    16
    Those who neglect their father are like blasphemers;
    those who provoke their mother are accursed by their Creator.e

  14. feeriker says:

    Echoing the Happy Father’s Day greeting to all of my brothers out there who are fellow fathers.

  15. feeriker says:

    Luke says:
    June 18, 2017 at 5:17 am

    Medved (and, I presume, his wife too) is a tradcuck, so whatever he (and again, his wife) says or writes is almost certain to be a spew of imbecilic nonsense. The fact that it appears in a thoroughly discredited rag like NR just makes that assertion that much more certain to be true.

  16. Boxer says:

    Wishing all the fathers on Dalrock a happy Father’s Day. May the following year bring you prosperity, hunting trophies, and single-malt scotch.

    And now, since our work criticizing feminist lunacy is never done, I give you something to scoff at:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/southern-baptists-embrace-gender-inclusive-language-in-the-bible/529935/

    The Southern Baptist Conference is re-writing the bible, making God an androgynous tranny. I suppose we should start the magic countdown before all the decent Baptists make a mass exodus from their denomination. It’s coming.

    Peace,

    Boxer

  17. Scott says:

    Gentlemen, I have been blessed with particularly masculine archetypes in my life. I hope you have too. If you haven’t, you can still honor them.

    Happy Father’s Day.

    https://americandadweb.wordpress.com/2017/06/18/honor/

  18. DrTorch says:

    As mentioned in previous thread, I had to walk out of church today. I believe this church posts audio of the sermons, so I can link if you want evidence, but this is a summary of what the pastor said, the last line being when I took my family and walked out:

    From 1 Cor 11- Men are to follow Christ, that means being protectors, providers and servants in their family.

    After several humiliating anecdotes about neither he nor several other men were capable of dressing themselves, and an inordinate amount of time apologizing for women’s head coverings in that culture, he brought out a wedding ring and said (I paraphrase): We used to use the word “obey,” but that’s not popular now, but that’s exactly what a man will do if he’s serving like Christ. He will obey his wife.

    Not totally shocked, but will point out that FLT and others at least used to be more subtle about it. Also found it disgusting to watch a male acting like this and saying these things.

  19. So I get the Bible App email propaganda in my Fathers’ Day inbox this morning. The links to every article were either about how Fathers aren’t living up and need to be better to qualify as a Dad, or, they were about how we can honor Father “Figures” in our lives.

    So, in essence, men are not necessarily to be associated with Fatherhood – any ‘Figure’ of what a Father might be idealized as will do. This is one more example of Remove the Man.

    https://therationalmale.com/2013/05/06/remove-the-man/

  20. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    I recently saw Superman Returns (2006). Seeing it for the first time, but through Red Pill eyes.

    Superman has left for five years. He returns to find Lois Lane a single mother, living with a man who is presumably her child’s father. He’s wealthy, the nephew of the newspaper’s owner.

    Then it turns out the Superman is the real father, a secret that Lois has kept from everyone.

    So it seems that Lois is an Alpha Widow. She’s still in love with Superman, even after he “pumped & dumped” her. She’s hooked up with a rich Beta Provider, who’s raising Superman’s child, thinking its his own (i.e., he’s been cucked).

    Lois lies to this man, claiming she doesn’t love Superman. Then she flies off with Superman, nearly kissing him. Although there’s no sex, it’s still cheating. She lies to her Beta Cuck, claiming she was only on the roof to get some air.

    In the end, Superman promises to be around if ever Lois should need him. So Lois gets to keep her Beta Provider Cuck, who’s unknowingly raising Superman’s son. And Lois also gets to have her Alpha superhero drop by on occasion.

    Lois is, of course, portrayed sympathetically. She’s a Strong, Independent, Career Woman, a great Single Mom (albeit living in her Beta Cuck’s mansion), and it’s True Love with Superman and who can condemn a woman for True Love?

    One really does see all movies differently after the Red Pill.

  21. Swanny River says:

    Yes, Happy Father’s Day to all. You. And Dalrock’s diligent are helping me to clarify how and what I will instruct my son.
    The warning to flee marriage is often on the tip of my tongue, but it’s better that I catch myself and when he is old enough, to tell him, don’t run from marriage, but run to Christ, and if you accurately count the costs of a modern marriage, then that is ok, but let it be for love of Christ and not of disgust for the stink of rebellious women.

  22. Red Pill Latecomer says:
    June 18, 2017 at 11:36 am

    “…One really does see all movies differently after the Red Pill.”

    When a man is true to Divinity and sees through the Fematrix, the Fematrix cannot be ‘unseen’ — no more than a bell can be ‘unrung’.

  23. Anon says:

    Uber, a company that reached $68 Billion in valuation, is being extorted with abandon by ‘feminists’ who want the money tech generates, but who don’t want to do the work to make it :

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/13/uber-board-member-david-bonderman-resigns-after-sexist-comment-at-meeting.html

  24. Swanny River says:

    Typos: meant to say thanks for Dalrock’s focus and diligence. Also, meant to say if my son chooses not to marry because he accurately counts the cost.
    My Father’s Day service was continuing in Exodus. I know many of you think that sounds great, expositional sermons, and it is mostly, but the reason they don’t touch the (PCA church) Fathers is because they are aware its touchy, so they avoid it. Don’t want to offend anyone. IMO it drains the light and salt from the body, this fear of offending anyone (ie women).
    The congregational prayer did talk about Dads and the prayer included a petition to God that Dads would be soft in leading and strong in serving.
    Its code language for educated whites, for servant leadership, because the ingroup of culture makers have decided that servant leadership is indisputable.

  25. feeriker says:

    As mentioned in previous thread, I had to walk out of church today

    This is one of those Sundays where a red-pill man stays at home unless he 1) attends a red-pill church (EXTREMELY rare) or 2) is prepared to do spiritual battle by literally calling out the blasphemous, cuckholded heresy sure to come from the pulpit, even going so far as to get himself kicked out of the service or even de-fellowshipped.

  26. Scott says:

    RPL-

    One notable exception to that formulaic “true love” script is the film “Cast away.”

    I always look to forward to the ending because the adults choose, under tremendous emotional strain to do the right thing.

    The final goodbye between Tom Hanks and Helen Hunt is tastefully done as they both realize she cannot demolish the marriage (with child) she has with the dentist because it would be wrong.

    The viewer is left to assume whatever he wants about how her marriage goes after that and whether or not Hanks finds romance with the mysterious metal sculptor in Texas.

  27. feeriker says:

    Anon says:
    June 18, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    Uber is also symptomatic of how out of touch with economic reality the American stock market currently is. The amount of the company’s valuation is also an approximation of the amount of money that the company is hemorraging in LOSES. Uber has yet to turn a profit in its nearly ten years of existence.

  28. Swanny River says:

    RPL thanks for the great movie example. I was visiting my Dad yesterday and saw The Big Sleep, with Bogart and Becall. It holds up great. So many of game tips are just a normal part of Bogart’s ways with Becall. Women are so freaking intent on tearing down their own houses that they can’t see how great they had it. It was made in 1946, so not as old as I thought. He had real authority and she had to show real responsibility to earn his affection.

  29. Swanny River says:

    Another typo, Bacall, not Becall.

  30. Anon says:

    RPL,

    Yes, that movie was horrible. Turning Lois Lane into a slutty single mother who willingly cuckolds a man, despite the inevitability of finding out that the kid is Superman’s (no scraped knees or bruises for the kid)..

  31. Anon says:

    feeriker,

    The stock market valuation is one thing, but look at the article. The apparatus of ‘feminist’ extortion of tech companies is very extensive. The Holder DoJ started it, Arianna Huffington got in and started putting other femtwat in positions of power, and an independent law firm is starting an ‘inquiry’ into ‘gender bias’ at Uber…

    Uber not turning a profit is one thing – some high-growth companies do that for years until they fully mature. The fact that ‘feminists’ can descend onto any such entity and extort from it is the real story here…

  32. feeriker says:

    The Southern Baptist Conference is re-writing the bible, making God an androgynous tranny.

    As someone over at Ted Beale’s main blog commented the other day, there used to be a certain degree of preventive medicine against corrupt Bible translations by the inclusion of Hebrew and Greek in a classical education. I also agree with this person’s assertion that this training in those classical biblical languages needs to be brought back to the curriculum.

  33. feministhater says:

    Uber is going to circle the toilet bowl now, good riddance to bad rubbish. Haha, do not let a single woman into your company. Don’t let them near, make all the decisions without them and you will do better. Men create and women consume.

  34. DrTorch says:

    “prepared to do spiritual battle by literally calling out the blasphemous, cuckholded heresy sure to come from the pulpit, even going so far as to get himself kicked out of the service or even de-fellowshipped.”

    I think the Biblically commanded way would be to meet w/ the pastor in private. But I don’t think it will do much good. This guy went out of his way to make this comment. He’s a 60+ year old man, father of 9. I’m sure he’ll tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about (in a jovial, non-confrontational, gamma male way).

    Anyway, that church has significant outside funding, so tithes/offerings are seriously downplayed. I’m really wondering who’s doing the funding to keep this in place.

  35. Anon says:

    As mentioned in previous thread, I had to walk out of church today

    Why did you go there in the first place, if you knew that it had become a goddess cult?

    I hope you won’t go back there, only to experience more of the same..

  36. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    I hear a lot of news stories about Uber drivers who are rapists or otherwise criminals. I wonder if Uber’s drivers are really so dangerous, or if the media is trying to destroy Uber’s reputation.

  37. DrTorch says:

    “Why did you go there in the first place, if you knew that it had become a goddess cult?”

    I didn’t know any such thing. The pastor does read scripture for his sermons, and while I find his presentation style haphazard and overly abundant with tangential comments, I’ve never heard anything so explicitly heretical before.

    Yes, I had my suspicions, but it would have been a false accusation if I hadn’t heard it first hand.

    Speaking of which, I confirmed that the church puts up videos of sermons (seemingly w/in one week of the sermon). I can link to it, if anyone wants to review, and confirm my accusations. I could have misheard or misunderstood, and the Bible is clear that an accuser should have at least 2 witnesses.

  38. feeriker says:

    I wonder if Uber’s drivers are really so dangerous, or if the media is trying to destroy Uber’s reputation.

    The latter, most definitely. Uber, for all of its shortcomings, has put a real hurt on the taxicab industry, which is going all out to try to eliminate the competition (the MSM, obsolete as they and their business models are and on the verge of bankruptcy themselves, see alternative industries as a threat and therefore are desperate to prop up the status quo).

  39. feeriker says:

    Speaking of which, I confirmed that the church puts up videos of sermons (seemingly w/in one week of the sermon). I can link to it, if anyone wants to review, and confirm my accusations. I could have misheard or misunderstood, and the Bible is clear that an accuser should have at least 2 witnesses.

    I doubt that you misheard or misunderstood anything. The message of misandry is pretty boilerplate across churches today.

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  41. Anon says:

    I hear a lot of news stories about Uber drivers who are rapists or otherwise criminals. I wonder if Uber’s drivers are really so dangerous, or if the media is trying to destroy Uber’s reputation.

    Of course they are not dangerous. The driver and passenger are recorded for each trip. An old-fashioned taxi cab is far more anonymous and thus prone to danger.

    Even if the company Uber ends up succumbing to the parasites, another company will take up the model. The cost-effectiveness vs. the corrupt taxi medallion cartel was obvious to see. Uber costs about half of a taxi ride, and the car is usually cleaner.

  42. feministhater says:

    Speaking of which, I confirmed that the church puts up videos of sermons (seemingly w/in one week of the sermon). I can link to it, if anyone wants to review, and confirm my accusations. I could have misheard or misunderstood, and the Bible is clear that an accuser should have at least 2 witnesses.

    I for one would like to hear these sermons. Nothing gets the message across quite like seeing it firsthand though…

  43. princeasbel says:

    Thanks to your blog, Dalrock, I took the opportunity this Sunday and this past Sunday to obey this very command (I mistook last Sunday for Father’s Day, so I did something else today too since it IS Father’s Day. lol). Thanks for your writing and your coverage of Father’s Day and Exodus 20:12. If it weren’t for that, I don’t think I would have realized- man, if we can’t honor our fathers on father’s day, when can we?? lol And what’s the point of even wanting society to heal from feminism and its degredation of fathers if we as Christians who know the truth won’t turn around and glorify our own fathers? I don’t think there is one. God bless, and keep writing, Dalrock. 🙂 You made today (and last Sunday) the best father’s day(s) I’ve had in years. 🙂

  44. Dale says:

    DrTorch said
    >I think the Biblically commanded way would be to meet w/ the pastor in private.

    I appreciate that you are trying to do things God’s way, which is of course always the best attitude and path. In this case however, you are missing a second passage. We need to obey both.

    You were obviously thinking of Matt 18:
    15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

    This passage speaks about a brother sinning against you. Probably should be understood as a sin specifically against you, rather than against the entire church, but this could be argued.

    The second passage is from Paul’s letter to Titus. In chapter 1, verses 5-9 give the requirements for someone to be a spiritual leader (elder, overseer). Verse 9 finishes with the requirement:
    9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound[g] doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

    And the immediately following verses then deal with false teachers — teachers who do not “hold firmly to the trustworthy message, as it has been taught”.
    10 For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party.[h] 11 They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. 12 One of the Cretans,[i] a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”[j] 13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. 16 They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.

    So, for these false teachers:
    – They must be silenced
    – We must “rebuke them sharply”
    – We must understand and accept that “They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.”

    We should not be surprised at the higher level of rebuke for a person who thinks himself worthy to teach, as James 3:1-2 says:
    Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. 2 For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.

    I think it false to say we should write off forever a preacher who deliberately chooses to serve Satan, or who is deceived/tricked into doing so. Jesus accepted Peter after Peter denied even knowing Christ — although AFTER Peter had repeated. And 2 Tim 2:22-26 indicates that people can be trapped by the devil to do the devil’s will; although not explicit stated in the text, I think it can be argued that these trapped “people” can be Christians.

    I think it would be entirely appropriate to get up in the middle of the sermon, and read the passage of God’s word that contradicts the false/satanic teaching, and then challenge the preacher to stop serving Satan by teaching contrary to God’s word. A bunch of white knights (useful idiots of Satan; see 2 Tim 2:22-26 per above) would likely interfere, desiring to be obedient to their human leader instead of trembling before the word of God (Isa 66:2). Regardless, I would still respect the man who tried to thus correct false teaching with God’s word.

    On an unrelated note: The “verse of the day” at BibleGateway.com is Eph 6:4:
    And, fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.

    Here is yet another example of using Father’s day to give instruction to fathers, rather than honor. Certainly, we all need both. But using this verse, instead of the one our host did above, rather makes obvious that honoring fathers is not a priority for many.

  45. Hmm says:

    On the Southern Baptist Convention succumbing to inclusive language, not so:

    http://www.dennyburk.com/have-southern-baptists-embraced-gender-inclusive-bible-translation-not-by-a-longshot/

    There are some words in Greek and Hebrew that can refer either to men alone or to all people. Whereas the KJV most always used “man” or “men”, modern translations will read the word in context and use the masculine where appropriate and the “all” form where it gives a better picture.

    The original article was a misunderstanding typical of mainstream media. They said what they wanted to hear.

  46. Anon says:

    Here is a site by someone who blogged his own suicide. He wasn’t depressed outwardly, but had fully checked out of everything, and had no kids. He decided on the date of his death over a year in advance. However, when I see his accounts of his marriages :

    http://martin-manley.eprci.com/two_marriages

    First wife : 2 years older than him. This was 1981, but still..

    Second wife : A single mother.

    Two divorces. Plus, he blames himself.

  47. info says:

    @DrTorch
    ”We used to use the word “obey,” but that’s not popular now, but that’s exactly what a man will do if he’s serving like Christ. He will obey his wife.”

    That pastor is a heretic pure and simple. For Christ in no way obeyed the church. So its a complete inversion of the proper hierarchy as laid out by God.

    ”He’s a 60+ year old man, father of 9. I’m sure he’ll tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about (in a jovial, non-confrontational, gamma male way).”

    It seems that gamma males do manage to have reproductive success if he is a cuckservative.

    Normally such a man would be repulsive.

  48. JDG says:

    Dale I’m pretty sure Dr. Torch was referencing 1 Tim 5:19.
    19 Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 20 As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.

  49. info says:

    @Hmm
    Despite instructions from the SBC:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/southern-baptists-embrace-gender-inclusive-language-in-the-bible/529935/

    The bookstore was defiant in continuing to sell heretical translation of the NIV 2011 which made what is good evil and evil good(Isaiah 5:20) consistent with the spirit of the age.

    Also ”the translation remains the most popular among Southern Baptists with a 40 percent share”

    40% of them are cuckservative heretics if that is true.

  50. Gunner Q says:

    I was out on the lake this weekend and surprised it wasn’t very busy. Thought for sure there’d be lots of fathers out having fun with the family. Is taking weekend vacations becoming a lost art? Or have those vacations not survived the transition to court-regulated custody?

    feeriker @ 12:30 pm:
    “As someone over at Ted Beale’s main blog commented the other day, there used to be a certain degree of preventive medicine against corrupt Bible translations by the inclusion of Hebrew and Greek in a classical education.”

    Churchians train furiously in ancient languages, partly to sound really smart and partly to conceal their lack of actual faith in God, so the knowledge is clearly no prevention. Besides, it doesn’t take a high level of education to understand and insist upon the concepts “God the Father” and “Christ the Son”. A gender-neutral Bible isn’t even coherent. All you spouses must lead your spouses well. Deborah said to Barak, Because you have relied upon a person to help you God will give the glory of victory to a person. And all the animals came into Noah’s ark in pairs of nonspecific sexual orientation!

    The SBC is committing the absolute worst sin a Protestant can, publishing an intentionally falsified version of Scripture, and the entire Protestant world is silent. Looks like they forgot what they were Protesting. /facepalm

  51. N Vandenberg says:

    Went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints this Fathers day Sunday. Some little girls were wearing T-Shirts that said “My Dad is My Hero “. No man bashing at all. Big change from the feminist oriented evangelical churches.

  52. Disillusioned says:

    I used to attend Baptist Churches. They claimed to be followers of the Bible which they consider inerrant and infallible. Yet, they are VERY good at using mental gymnastics to change what a verse(s) say. After all, this is the same church that justified slavery and used the Bible to defend it. The same thing happened during the Jim Crow era. Even though that has passed, the ability to still manipulate the Bible to say what they think it should is intact. They are very good at it.

  53. MarcusD says:

    Happy Fathers’ Day to all.

    And, for your entertainment:

    Sexy Pornstars Everywhere, Women to Marry = Nowhere
    https://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=1055587

  54. Luke says:

    Actually, Uber drivers are more dangerous to passengers than are legal taxi drivers. The latter have had fingerprint-based criminal background checks run by their state’s Justice Department, and felonies or active arrest warrants get them disqualified. Ubercab (the original, or true, name for that company) has bogus checks run on their drivers, such that more than one in twenty Ubercab drivers have either previous felony convictions or outstanding arrest warrants.

    Oh, and Uber has not only never made money, it almost certainly never will. It loses close to 2 billion dollars a year, despite defrauding its drivers into working nearly for free (when vehicle costs, depreciation, etc., are factored it).

    Go to this economic analysis of Ubercab if you want to understand the company:
    Put “can uber ever deliver” into Google, and all ten chapters come right up.

    Here are the first three:

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/11/can-uber-ever-deliver-part-one-understanding-ubers-bleak-operating-economics.html

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/12/can-uber-ever-deliver-part-two-understanding-ubers-uncompetitive-costs.html

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/12/can-uber-ever-deliver-part-three-understanding-false-claims-about-ubers-innovation-and-competitive-advantages.html

  55. Name (required) says:

    Yesterdays Fathers Day sermon was aimed at the wives, telling them “If you have a husband, to value, love and respect him. The pastor made fun of wives who want to tell their nusband how to lead. He said that men never come to him to criticize their wives, but women often criticize their husbands. He told us fathers are vital, shouldn’t act like mothers, and wives should be grateful.

    Thoroughly biblical, thoroughly uncucked. I pray you all can find pastors like mine.

  56. SJB says:

    Too amusing not to share: ”Saint Joseph, Terror of the Cult of Masculinity” –i.e. the ideal father and husband.

    How many times in the past 2,050 years has God said to a man: “Marry this woman. She carries my Son”? In contrast, how many women in the past 2,050 years have decided they really are the Virgin Mother?

    The hamster wheel – giving a laugh a minute for centuries.

  57. Boxer says:

    Dear SJB:

    Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, it’s a 404, but I have a screenshot and commentary at my page.

    https://v5k2c2.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/on-mary-joseph-and-francesca/

    Truly funny to see such looney feminist spinning. Good work finding this nonsense, and keep it coming!

    Boxer

  58. Canon Rex says:

    1st time commenting here, but have been reading since November. (Found Dalrock, then Vox Day and Rollo, everything else followed). Thanks for the insight and constant analysis of the state of Christianity in the West.

    I just wanted to stop by and report on what I got at church this weekend. (Roman Catholic) My usual priest is ex-army and is pretty conservative, but we had a guest priest so I made sure to really pay attention. In summary, he said that just the father’s presence, along with his constant help and care he gives freely gives us a glimpse into the sacrifice Christ made for us. Just thought that was noteworthy and powerful. (He also had the fathers stand up at the end of mass dor more praising.) Truly refreshing compared to the “MAN UP and do better” everyone seems to be getting now. I believe Rollo said mainline protestant churches have lost hope?

    I did like another comment about reading Pope Leo XI’s encyclicals. I just went back and read some, they were great.

    Anyways, sorry for the random post. Just wantes to thank TRP analysists and report on what I got.

    God Bless.

  59. DrTorch says:

    Dale,

    Thanks for your comments. I was mainly thinking of 1 Cor 14, which concludes, 40 Let all things be done properly and in order. I’m not sure standing up and rebuking the pastor would be orderly.

    I also don’t know what to do to break that spell. I have no standing in that congregation, as I have only attended intermittently for a few months.

    Sure, I could quote scripture, but he had relevant scripture on the screens. He literally just read aloud “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man”. How could anyone sit there and accept that husbands should obey their wives? When did Jesus start obeying the whims of His church?

    Surely the veil mentioned in 2 Cor 4 is covering their minds.

  60. PokeSalad says:

    a thoroughly discredited rag like NR
    NR – last redoubt of the cuckservative.

  61. David says:

    Luke,

    What are you, a leftist protectionist?

    Uber records each drive, so that automatically makes it more secure than a taxi. Most taxi drivers are immigrants, that too from suspicious countries (Pakistan, Ethiopia, Egypt, etc.).

    I notice you don’t mention how corrupt the taxi medallion racket is. It was an example of supreme city corruption.

    Oh, and Uber has not only never made money, it almost certainly never will. It loses close to 2 billion dollars a year

    So? That is between Uber and the investors (of which you are certainly not one). It is not a public company.

    despite defrauding its drivers into working nearly for free

    Defraud the drivers? So you think that the arrangement is not voluntary? Look up the free market. Plus, Uber openly said they will migrate to driverless cars over time, which lowers costs further.

    Your comment was one of the most pro-government, economically left-wing things I have read in a while.

  62. SirHamster says:

    >>> despite defrauding its drivers into working nearly for free

    Defraud the drivers? So you think that the arrangement is not voluntary? Look up the free market. Plus, Uber openly said they will migrate to driverless cars over time, which lowers costs further.

    Defrauding is defrauding even if done voluntarily. Just like an Eat Pray Love divorcee giving away her money to some sexy dude is being defrauded, even if she never realizes it.

    Free markets do not imply justice. Free markets do require justice to function … but what we have now is not a free market, nor can justice be assumed.

  63. JustRae says:

    So, slightly off topic but last night we watched The Red Pill movie. It was free with Amazon prime in the documentary section. It was an interesting movie and we had some good talks. I’ve never seen it mentioned here, didn’t know if any of y’all had seen it?

  64. DrTorch says:

    info wrote
    Normally such a man would be repulsive.

    I do find him repulsive. He’s saccharine. He comments from the pulpit that he’s going to tear up every time there’s something “emotional.”

    Funny thing, I brought the issue back up w/ my teenage son last night. He said he thought the pastor just misspoke about “husbands obey your wives.” And that he had said earlier that men were the leaders of their wives.

    I explained, “Yes, he read that from the Bible, and it’s obvious what it means. However, remember he went on to tell how his wife forced him to change pants this morning, and the other stories about men obeying their wives?”

    He thought all of those had been jokes. I reminded him that the pastor never conceded all of those were jokes. He was being serious, and that’s why he concluded w/ the husbands obey your wives.

    My son’s facial expressions were hilarious. He went from chuckling at the standard self-deprecating humor to one of serious revulsion when he realized the pastor had been sincere. Even a 98lb adolescent senses and expresses disgust at a cowering milksop.

  65. Gunner Q says:

    DrTorch @ 2:07 pm:
    “My son’s facial expressions were hilarious. He went from chuckling at the standard self-deprecating humor to one of serious revulsion when he realized the pastor had been sincere. Even a 98lb adolescent senses and expresses disgust at a cowering milksop.”

    That’s how you do the Great Commission. Excellent work! We’ve all had those “oh, wait, he’s actually serious” moments.

    If you can’t set the pastor straight then use him as a prop to set other people straight.

  66. PokeSalad says:

    Defrauding is defrauding even if done voluntarily. Just like an Eat Pray Love divorcee giving away her money to some sexy dude is being defrauded, even if she never realizes it.

    If she never “realizes” it, then it cannot be voluntary. QED.

  67. Luke says:

    David, what I am is a geologist (so trained in at least middling ability to observe and think) who was out of work for a year with the recent oil bust and drove a (legal) taxi in FL. I saw Ubercabs regularly, flouting every county regulation on livery service, and read up on them. The company has consistently lied to its drivers, telling them they’ll make loads of money, when most of them make far under minimum wage (if they don’t LOSE money in real terms).

    The medallion system is in VERY few places in the U.S., Outside of NYC, Chicago (both lost causes in general as places to live/work IMO being socialist hellholes), and several others, it’s not a factor worth mentioning.

    Oh, and you couldn’t be more wrong on the Ubercab drivers being safer for pax than legal taxi drivers. There are cases of people getting paroled from prison for felony assault (including sexual assault) and going to work for Uber Cab just days later. Legal taxi drivers are screened for that.

  68. BillyS says:

    Regulations are just as much control as medallions Luke. They just package things differently, but the true goal is control and price fixing, not safety.

  69. David says:

    Luke,

    The company has consistently lied to its drivers, telling them they’ll make loads of money, when most of them make far under minimum wage

    That is not a ‘lie’. The drivers failed to do the basic arithmetic on how much they can make per day. Uber charges 20% (?) of fares. That is pretty transparent.

    I second BillyS’s statement about regulation. Excessive respect for regulation is also a left-wing trait.

    Most Uber drivers are Americans, while cabbies are foreigners from questionable countries. You seem to be ok with that.

    Anyway, if you couldn’t save up enough as a Geologist to avoid being reduced to a cabbie once a layoff happened, I don’t expect you to understand these concepts.

  70. Gunner Q says:

    I think Luke is on to something about Uber. It doesn’t match up, Uber being incredibly well-invested while at the same time losing money trying to undercut established businesses in a low-margin sector on a global scale. Luke’s allegations of fraud & noncompliance also sound very plausible given Uber’s business model of employing amateurs, making it an even worse investment.

    There’s two reasons to invest in an organization. One is to realize a profit and the other is so the organization can continue doing what they’re doing. Profit ain’t happening so could it be that Uber’s actual purpose is to destroy the taxi industry? Adding David’s own observations that Uber has no anonymity and looks forward to implementing driverless cars, it sounds likely that the driving force behind investing in Uber is Elites setting up a replacement for private transportation.

    Let’s see if taxi companies go out of business en masse then Uber declares bankruptcy and takes a Federal bailout.

    “Anyway, if you couldn’t save up enough as a Geologist to avoid being reduced to a cabbie once a layoff happened, I don’t expect you to understand these concepts.”

    There’s a lot of us established men with part-time gigs on standby so we can survive hard times at our day jobs. I myself got shafted by the housing bubble and had to take low-level shift work for a long time, in my mid-30s. Luke drove a taxi instead of claiming welfare? Good for him!

  71. Tim J Penner says:

    Re: Southern Baptist gender neutral God
    Malachi 3:8 Will a man castrate God? Yet ye have castrated me. But ye say, Wherein have we castrated thee?

  72. Spike says:

    Well said, Dalrock.
    The Commandment comes with a promise. Break the commandment, and don’t be surprised if there are consequences.
    Wasn’t Judah invaded by the Medes (Arabs) and the Parsin (Persians) because they forsook the LORD their God?
    Christendom did exactly that. Strangely, they are being invaded by the very same people, for the very same sin.

  73. SirHamster says:

    Anyway, if you couldn’t save up enough as a Geologist to avoid being reduced to a cabbie once a layoff happened, I don’t expect you to understand these concepts.

    I smell a loser.

    White knighting for a multi-billionaire startup that can’t turn a profit was one clue, but just look at the attitude towards men working for an honest living.

  74. Luke says:

    Thank you, Sir Hamster.
    I should add that I also have a wife who is a SAHM to our twin 4-YO children.
    (Yes, the children are genetically mine, and were born into the marriage, albeit via egg donor/gestational surrogacy.)

    Has even ONE person read ANY of the economic analyses of Uber Cab I posted earlier?
    The company is crooks from top to bottom.

  75. BillyS says:

    I am not saying I like Uber. I don’t pay enough attention to them, but I recall reading some things that have made me less than impressed.

    Though I am equally not a fan of regulation excuses to keep them out. Reducing supply is a well known way of keeping prices up, even without formal pricing control.

  76. Luke says:

    If the gov’t would just 1) make Uber cabs follow all the same rules as other, legal cabs do*, and 2) the company was honest in its dealings with people, I’d have no problem with it.

    *licenses, background checks, commercial insurance, signage, rates, that sort of stuff.

    Chapter Ten in that economic analysis of Uber I posted earlier takes the position that Uber Cab is now on corporate Death Row.

  77. info says:

    @DrTorch

    I mean repulsive to women. So that he wouldn’t have been able to marry and have the 9 kids you talked about.

    Isn’t what Gamma males usually are to women?

  78. Oscar says:

    I drove for Uber for a while. Once I cracked the code, I was making $200 in four hours of work. You have to know when and where to drive to catch surge pricing. That’s how you make a profit. Unfortunately, that means driving hours I’d rather not drive, but that’s probably true for taxi drivers as well.

    The city where I drove started requiring a business license and a commercial driver’s license to drive for Uber, and I decided it wasn’t worth the hassle, but if I got laid off, I’d probably go right back to driving until I found another job.

  79. BillyS says:

    This seems more relevant here than the latest post:

    http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/destined-for-victory/custom-player/becoming-a-man-jesus-admires-part-1-contd-602816.html

    He has actually challenged women in the past, but not to the extent of his “man up” stuff recently. And I find him to be one of the better speaker’s in general, but he has a huge blind spot in this area and is unfortunately preaching out of ignorance.

    It would be good for him to talk to some who have been ruined when those “godly women” decided that marriage was no longer good for them. And I tend to stand for still marrying, but I am not ignorant enough to not discuss the serious risks doing that entails.

    (And I continue to work through the emotional issues even after my divorce is final. It really can be bad. Too few leaders see it as important to pay attention to this. All their encouragement to “express your feelings” goes away quickly when it doesn’t fit the narrative of “women good, men bad.”)

    Disappointing and sure to really annoy some here if you listen to it, while it is still there of course.

  80. BillyS says:

    I don’t drink much, but some of these sermons would make a great drinking game if I did. Drink a shot each time they claim women are better, men need to do something against reality, etc.

  81. DrTorch says:

    info- repulsive to everyone IMO.

    Anyway, here is the link to the sermon.
    http://thekingschapel.org/resources/sermons/
    Obviously the one for 6.18.17

    I left after what was said around 27:50-27:58. If there was some further clarification, I missed it. Anyway, if you listen to it, please let me know if I misunderstood. You do miss the benefit of his body language wh/ played a role in his “men are helpless clowns” shtick IMO.

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