Deepwater Horizon is a pleasant surprise.

In our discussion back in 2014 of Mom’s Night Out, Cane Caldo astutely commented:

Our movies really hate married fathers. “Taken” is acceptable as a movie premise because Liam Neeson’s father character is divorced. “Homeland” is also fine because Jason Statham’s character doesn’t have a wife in the way while he sexily protects his daughter.

I have found this observation to be spot on, which is why I was so surprised that Deepwater Horizon doesn’t follow Hollywood’s rule on married fathers.  Mark Wahlberg’s character doesn’t go to his difficult and dangerous job knowing that he is failing as a husband and father.  He isn’t shown missing his daughter’s recital or presentation.  Nor do we learn that she resents him for being away from the family for long stretches of time due to his job.  On the contrary, his daughter loves him and looks up to him, and is proud of what he does to support the family.  Likewise, his wife is not unhappy, and does not provide the audience with a list of his shortcomings.

Secular movies are far better regarding married fathers than Christian movies are, but even for a secular movie this is vanishingly uncommon.  It is refreshing to see a movie which so thoroughly bucks the trend here.

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  2. Cane Caldo says:

    I’ll check it out then.

  3. Matamoros says:

    Thanks, I was debating as to whether to see this. Now I will.

  4. Oscar says:

    Most movies that honor fathers are based on true stories. Why? Because real life fathers defy the current cultural stereotypes.

    http://snowgoosechronicles.blogspot.com/2016/06/movies-that-honor-fathers.html

  5. I am watching the trailer. I do like the daughter’s admiration for her father. However there is still the ‘you need to do -this- for me daddy’. I suppose that remark can be given a pass, taken alone. It takes time to teach children manners.

    Another thing I noticed is the woman on the Deep Horizon calling for help on the radio, and it makes me wonder if there were, in fact, any women on that platform. It is rather rare for women to be involved in offshore drilling. Is this another attempt to ‘steal manly pride’ without actually having women make the sacrifices involved?

    I also noticed the amount of focus spent on the grief and emotion the wife is feeling for the husband. This is reminiscent of Hillary’s line about the ‘real’ victims of war being women.

    I suppose if they have to shoe horn in a romance sub-plot, it’s best said sub-plot is between the married couple.

  6. Opus says:

    Is the movie fair to BP? – I (as a now worse-off shareholder therein) have an interest and regard your President’s reference throughout the disaster to British Petroleum (rather than BP) as more of his anti-British bashing, and in any case it was an American sub-contractor company under instructions from BP rather than the parent company which screwed up. Screwing Britain’s largest company for forty billion dollars was surely just a new form of tribute.

  7. Oscar says:

    @ Josh

    “Andrea Fleytas, a 23-year-old worker who helped operate the rig’s sophisticated navigation machinery, suddenly noticed a glaring oversight: No one had issued a distress signal to the outside world, she recalls in an interview. Ms. Fleytas grabbed the radio and began calling over a signal monitored by the Coast Guard and other vessels.

    ‘Mayday, Mayday. This is Deepwater Horizon. We have an uncontrollable fire’.”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704113504575264721101985024

    The focus on Mike Williams’s (Mark Wahlberg’s character) family is good. They are part of the story, after all. And it helps remind people of what others do to make their cushy lives possible.

  8. feeriker says:

    Another thing I noticed is the woman on the Deep Horizon calling for help on the radio, and it makes me wonder if there were, in fact, any women on that platform. It is rather rare for women to be involved in offshore drilling. Is this another attempt to ‘steal manly pride’ without actually having women make the sacrifices involved?

    If that is indeed part of the plot (a SIW[?] doing what is traditionally a man’s job), then that is a major strike against the film, although if said SIW has her natural limitations exposed in an emergency situation and is rescued by a man in the end, that serves as somewhat of a redemption. I suppose we need to be grateful that the film is as RP as it is.

  9. Zippy says:

    In the trailer there are photos of the actual people represented by actors, including the female … I forgot her role, navigator or something. She ends up being rescued by Wahlberg’s character. It also gives little ‘where they are now’ captions during the credits IIRC.

  10. Oscar says:

    Again, Andrea Fleytas is a real person, and she really did make the distress call. See the link above.

  11. Gunner Q says:

    Hollywood has begun to struggle financially. You can see this both in the existence of more male-friendly movies (Captain America being the main example I’ve noticed) and studio interest in foreign markets, especially China.

    It’s just a ploy to keep market share, though. These studios remain unrepentant for their perversions. If anything, a trend of pro-male movies now would merely indicate they knew about the evils they were selling.

  12. Dalrock says:

    @Josh

    I am watching the trailer. I do like the daughter’s admiration for her father. However there is still the ‘you need to do -this- for me daddy’. I suppose that remark can be given a pass, taken alone. It takes time to teach children manners.

    The movie isn’t perfect, but the line you are referring to comes in the context of the daughter wanting to brag about her father to her class. She wants to beat another girl whose father is bringing a penguin to class. If this were a standard movie, the father would have forgotten to bring her the fossil he had promised her repeatedly he would bring. If it were a Christian movie, the daughter would have somehow been killed because the father forgot to bring the fossil he promised her.

    Another thing I noticed is the woman on the Deep Horizon calling for help on the radio, and it makes me wonder if there were, in fact, any women on that platform. It is rather rare for women to be involved in offshore drilling. Is this another attempt to ‘steal manly pride’ without actually having women make the sacrifices involved?

    We aren’t allowed to have movies where women aren’t “there too”, period. As I wrote recently, every submarine, every SEAL team now needs to include a woman. Oil platforms aren’t an exception, and as Oscar noted it does appear that her character is based on a woman who was actually there. If not, of course they would have had to invent her character whole cloth. In this case they lay it on a bit thick in the beginning when introducing her. A good amount of effort is taken to introduce her as the woman who is one of the guys. But she isn’t Private Vasquez from Aliens, and it is more realistic in the end of the movie.

  13. greyghost says:

    Looks like one I’m going to check out.

  14. greyghost says:

    GunnerQ

    Hollywood has begun to struggle financially. You can see this both in the existence of more male-friendly movies (Captain America being the main example I’ve noticed) and studio interest in foreign markets, especially China.

    It’s just a ploy to keep market share, though. These studios remain unrepentant for their perversions. If anything, a trend of pro-male movies now would merely indicate they knew about the evils they were selling.

    Good behavior is good behavior. Don’t let the motivation get to you. The best we can do is as Dalrock is doing is acknowledge good behavior and spend some money on it to give your approval of said behavior. . It will always be up to good men to carry society regardless if society is deserving or not.

  15. Cane Caldo says:

    [T]he line you are referring to comes in the context of the daughter wanting to brag about her father to her class. She wants to beat another girl whose father is bringing a penguin to class. If this were a standard movie, the father would have forgotten to bring her the fossil he had promised her repeatedly he would bring. If it were a Christian movie, the daughter would have somehow been killed because the father forgot to bring the fossil he promised her.

    Gold.

  16. Dalrock says:

    @Opus

    Is the movie fair to BP?

    I can’t imagine BP thinking that it is. BP execs are portrayed as the villains.

  17. tsotha says:

    I always assumed movie fathers were single (and hopeless, domestically) because it allows women in the audience to fantasize about a relationship with the hero. A wife, particularly when the relationship is portrayed as strong, gets in the way of the fantasy.

  18. Lost Patrol says:

    If it were a Christian movie, the daughter would have somehow been killed because the father forgot to bring the fossil he promised her.

    Yep. One liners collection.

    The woman’s role as I’m hearing it (haven’t seen picture yet) is to call for help.

    This sounds right to me. Remember the US patrol boats captured by Iranian navy recently? The men involved were awarded various punishments. The one woman involved was awarded a medal (yes, medal) for being the only one to call for help.

  19. Gunner Q says:

    “Good behavior is good behavior.”

    This is not good behavior.

    Suppose I’ve cornered the market on widgets. I price-gouge ruthlessly for fat profits. A competitor sees an opportunity and begins selling cheaper widgets. I retaliate by selling widgets far below cost (but in limited quantity so no hoarding) to force the competitor out of business. Then I jack prices back up to recover my losses. Were my lower prices good behavior?

    Same thing here with corrupted studios pushing trash on our society but making the occasional good movie. Their motive isn’t healthy entertainment, it’s starving healthy, alternative entertainment. Economic turf war.

    A comparable example would be Pastor Feelgood falling into debt, preaching patriarchy to fill the pews back up, paying off the loans, then going back to Boyfriend Jesus until debt looms once again.

    Don’t give me crumbs. Give me justice. Cross a certain line and justice will demand we NEVER do business or worship or widgets together again.

    “I always assumed movie fathers were single (and hopeless, domestically) because it allows women in the audience to fantasize about a relationship with the hero.”

    Movie fathers would do better with fangs than divorces.

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  21. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    There were women aboard the rig in … The Rig: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1093906/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_19

    They were real sassy and brave and bad-ass. A monster had come aboard the rig. One of the women even led the men, with her big gun, and she kicked some major monster butt.

  22. Spike says:

    I saw the preview and thought the same, Dalrock.
    It might – just might – be a Hellywood movie worth watching.

  23. Fifty Seven says:

    Going to check it out this weekend. I have a copy of the Republic of the Marshall Islands’ final report on the incident (Deepwater Horizon was flagged there, so they ran their own investigation). Kinda interested how it stacks up against that.

  24. MarcusD says:

    Speaking of anti-male sentiment, the responses to Nate Silver’s “all-male” voting map are worth looking over:

    Amongst many things, note the terminology that Nate uses: “women” vs “dudes”

  25. I’d love to see the coordinated Emails. Mostly as the Clinton twitter trolls intentionally started a hashtag and claimed “#repelthe19th” was from Trump supporters. It was clearly started by the bot army of “Correct the Record”, a Clinton astroturf group.

    At this point, there is no longer *any* coincidence in this election. It’s end-scale collapse of the Elites. What a time to be alive.

  26. Hmm says:

    @MarcusD: Some synchronicity from Scott Adams, the best discussion of the day for me:

    “…if Clinton wins, it will be because women voted for her in landslide proportions while men (on average) preferred Trump. And that means two things of historic importance.

    1. We will elect the first woman to be President of the United States. That’s good for everyone.
    and…

    2. Everything that goes wrong with the country from this point forward is women’s fault.

    I feel some relief about that. The next four years are likely to be some of the worst in our country’s history. The Republican establishment will make sure of that because a failed America is in their best interest in the short run. Four years from now they want to offer their chosen savior (Paul Ryan). Trump would have a good chance of bullying the Republican establishment as he has done so far. Clinton, not so much. She’ll be buried in scandals, both real and imagined.

    Men had a good run. We invented almost everything, and that’s cool. But we also started all of the wars and committed most of the crimes. It’s a mixed record to be sure. Now it’s time for something different, apparently.

    Hillary Clinton is all yours, ladies. She and her alleged rapist husband are your brand now. Wear them well.”

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151737656851/the-era-of-women

  27. An actual woman on the rig? Remarkable. Of course, since the trailer I saw didn’t have the line up photos, and the WSJ article just cuts off, unless I want to give them my info and sign up for an account, I guess I’ll just have to take someone else’s word for that.

    At this point, in any ‘interpretation of real world events” where a woman is portrayed in a typically male role, particularly in a dangerous, dirty profession, I presume more fabrication than usual.

    Then again, the face of the woman on the “We can do it!” poster existed, kind of, as a violin player who backed out of her factory position in under a week and with nothing like the build portrayed.

    So I suppose a seed of reality at the heart of pumped up fiction is possible.

    I agree with Dalrock, though, that if she hadn’t been on the rig, they would have just made her up.

    @Dalrock
    Yes, the demand for the fossil comes in the context of admiration for her father, a context I noted. It’s still a moment within that context I think we agree is an imperfection.

    It was, however, one of the first things about the movie that stood out to me.

    I plan to watch said movie, but if I buy a copy for myself or others will depend on the content of that movie, and whether it deserves a long-standing place in my library of movies, which is shrinking over time.

  28. Rum says:

    Opus
    BP is about 50% owned by American interests. Roughly half of its employees are in the US. And everybody knows that the decisions that mattered were made in an office building in downtown Houston by Americans.
    I would not agree that the reactions here were at all anti-British. It was more like, “Someone must take responsibility and that someone is the entity with ultimate control.”

  29. Boxer says:

    When I first read this review, I thought the author was being sarcastic (and many articles on Dalrock become famous for their humor, as much as their truth). Given that this actually is a wholesome film, I am looking forward to it.

    As a related aside, I saw an older movie recently: The Family Man with Nicholas Cage. Sort of a chick flick, but on the whole it was pretty good. It showed the upside to being a stable provider with a happy family, and a submissive (not subservient) pretty wife. If only there were more examples of this in real life…

  30. Tam the Bam says:

    Weren’t no women on the Piper Alpha. Therefore no movie.
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/piper-alpha-disaster-list-167-2029788

  31. Oscar says:

    @ Josh the Aspie says:
    October 13, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    “At this point, in any ‘interpretation of real world events’ where a woman is portrayed in a typically male role, particularly in a dangerous, dirty profession, I presume more fabrication than usual.”

    That’s a reasonable assumption.

  32. Lost Patrol says:

    At this point, in any ‘interpretation of real world events’ where a woman is portrayed in a typically male role, particularly in a dangerous, dirty profession, I presume more fabrication than usual.”

    That’s a reasonable assumption.

    Bear in mind the woman in this story is not a roughneck, she works in the NAV shop. Looks at screens, uses GPS+GLONASS satellite navigation to guide the rig into position. Not especially dangerous or dirty. The helo ride out to the rig may the most exciting part of the job.

    But I haven’t seen the movie. For those that have, was she a rig “office worker” or a roughneck?

  33. The Jack Russell Terrorist says:

    I wonder when Hollyweird will start making WW2 movies with women fighter pilots, soldiers and storming Omaha beach on D-Day?!?!?

  34. Anon says:

    The thing about movies is, there is no reason a 2016 movie needs to be watched ahead of a 1968 or 1985 movie. The reason there are so many remakes is that a lot of young morons don’t know about the original.

    If the modern culture has values you find revolting, there are plenty of great movies in the cumulative all-time library. You will never run out.

  35. Just Saying says:

    Deepwater Horizon doesn’t follow Hollywood’s rule on married fathers.

    It serves some other purpose that you’re missing. Could be it needs a profit, or something else, but things are never as they seem these days – always look for an agenda, usually something to do with making money, but not always, it could be about power, or position to really do something nasty later. The days of honor and integrity are gone…All of the things that made this country great…

    Keep your powder dry…

  36. feeriker says:

    Mostly as the Clinton twitter trolls intentionally started a hashtag and claimed “#repelthe19th” was from Trump supporters.

    Nope. Trump supporters know how to spell R-E-P-E-A-L. That “repel” thing has Clinttard written all over it. Although “repel” is actually appropriate to where the 19th Amendment is concerned.

  37. feeriker says:

    “…if Clinton wins, it will be because women voted for her in landslide proportions while men (on average) preferred Trump. And that means two things of historic importance.

    1. We will elect the first woman to be President of the United States. That’s good for everyone in this case because

    2. Everything that goes wrong with the country from this point forward is women’s fault.”

    Fixed. A woman being elected president (or head of state/government of any country) is absolutely NOT, by itself, a good thing.

  38. Well, the “repel” bit is my mistake. It didn’t go much of anywhere (and seemed to get over taken spam bots almost instantly), but it was one of the things that happened.

    I’m also up at “odd” hours for my time zone, so it’s noticeable when at 4 am EST a pro-Hillary Twitter Storm starts and suddenly has 40k+ tweets, when it didn’t exist a few hours before. We’ve seen the bot armies before, but the astroturfing seems second rate. If I’m honest.

  39. feeriker says:

    I wonder when Hollyweird will start making WW2 movies with women fighter pilots, soldiers and storming Omaha beach on D-Day?!?!?

    Given the typical Amoricon’s zoological ignorance of history, they could start doing that now and get away with it.

  40. Oscar says:

    @ LP

    This is the best description of her job that I could find.

    “The 27-year-old Long Beach resident studied marine transportation at California Maritime Academy in Vallejo and earned a 3rd mate’s license to navigate with unlimited tonnage. That includes everything from container ships to semi-submersible drilling platforms. It was her dream job.
    ………..

    She assisted in the navigational aspects of the rig and maintained the ship’s location while drilling was taking place. The routine was the same every day, from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m.”

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fleytas-610752-business-small.html

    I’ve never worked offshore, so I don’t know what that means. Maybe one of the other dudes can explain it.

    Now, check this out.

    “She eventually enrolled in Golden West Community College in Huntington Beach to study civil engineering.

    One day, in the middle of an advanced chemistry class in November 2012, she rose from her desk, packed her books into her bag and left.

    Fleytas came home and dropped her classes online and dived headfirst into another passion: baking.
    ………..

    Last fall, she launched her small business, Bricklane Bread – a name she copied from a famous bakery in England.”

    There appear to be some lessons on which to expound in this story.

  41. Oscar says:

    @ The Jack Russell Terrorist says:
    October 13, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    “I wonder when Hollyweird will start making WW2 movies with women fighter pilots, soldiers and storming Omaha beach on D-Day?!?!?”

    Dude. Did you miss the “Wonder Woman” trailer?

    It’s WWI, but still…

  42. Lost Patrol says:

    @Oscar

    You’ve actually succeeded in generating interest about this chick. Now I kind of want to know what her deal is.

    I’ve never worked offshore either, but have worked a landlocked rig. I’ve been out on the sea in ships, but mostly as baggage. Also did some time as a deckhand in the towboat scene, up and down the Arkansas River and the Lower Mississippi. Some of the boats had women even in the 70’s. They were cooks. Pretty good usually as I recall.

    I think a 3rd mate’s license to navigate with unlimited tonnage is the big leagues, but 3rd mate is 3rd. More like an assistant to the actual navigator, as it sounds like on Deep Water. Some of the brethren here have sea time and may be able to shed more light. Working 6 to 6 is quite standard. Maintained the ship’s location while drilling was taking place means working mostly indoors at a computer screen, possibly with access to maneuver controls. She was not slinging iron, as far as that goes.

    Baking…

  43. They Call Me Tom says:

    I had the same impression of the World War Z movie… the fact that the wife was working with the husband at every opportunity rather than picking a fight at every opportunity was so unique that it’s the only thing that really stuck with me from the movie.

    Another movie off the norm portrayal of a husband is in the movie ‘Redbelt’. The main character isn’t in a happy marriage, but we’re reminded at every turn that it’s because of who he’s married to more than anything else (think Rosie Perez in ‘It Could Happen To You’ except played by Sonia Braga’s daughter).

  44. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    In Pearl Harbor and The Red Baron women were portrayed as Strong, Independent Nurses.

    Women in period piece war films often disrespect male soldiers, calling them “little boys who think it’s fun to play war, or some similar taunt. Usually, a male soldier relates a heroic deed, expecting to impress the woman. But the woman is wiser, more mature. She sees the futility, waste, and horrors of war. That war is merely children killing children. She refuses to be impressed by a 20-year-old child in uniform. She chastises the male soldier for his foolishness, for imagining that battlefield butchery is anything to be proud of.

    If he’s a good guy, the solider will humbly accept his chastisement, seeing the superior wisdom of women. The woman has made him ashamed of his role in the insanity of war. He falls in love with this Strong, Independent Woman who was disgusted by his macho bragging.

    Thus if women can’t share in male bravery, they deny that it’s a thing to be admired.

  45. Boxer says:

    Dear Fellas:

    I wonder when Hollyweird will start making WW2 movies with women fighter pilots, soldiers and storming Omaha beach on D-Day?!?!?

    Given the typical Amoricon’s zoological ignorance of history, they could start doing that now and get away with it.

    They were doing crap like this over a decade ago. There was a memorial to NYC firefighters who protected the city on 9/11 that included a woman, even though there were no female firefighters who died or risked their lives that day.

    If that happened today, they’d have depicted all the firefighters on the mural as women, except for two in the back, who would be painted as flaming homosexuals, groping each others butts.

    Boxer

  46. MarcusD says:

    @Hmm

    “we also started all of the wars”

    In a recent working paper, New York University scholars Oeindrila Dube and S.P. Harish analyzed 28 European queenly reigns from 1480 to 1913 and found a 27 percent increase in wars when a queen was in power, as compared to the reign of a king. “People have this preconceived idea that states that are led by women engage in less conflict,” Dube told Pacific Standard, but her analysis of the data on European queens suggests another story.

    European Queens Waged More Wars Than Kings
    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html

  47. Avraham rosenblum says:

    Dr Kelley Ross noted that everything about Taken was politically incorrect.

  48. Rick Francisco says:

    Deepwater Horizon never happened. Watch “Media Mind Control and the BP Oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico” by Lenon Honor http://lenonhonor.com/mediamindcontrol/

  49. Dave says:

    2. Everything that goes wrong with the country from this point forward is women’s fault.

    Really? Women won’t accept that responsibility even if they were to be in power for another 300 years. Which is not going to happen anyway. It will take a mighty long time before we see another black man, or a woman, in the WH. Maybe not in our lifetimes.
    I predict that, should Clinton win, her first term will be relatively benign; maybe even uneventful. But she is far more likely to go on the deep end if she wins a second term.
    May God save the world from the Clinton duo.

  50. Hmm says:

    Interestingly, it’s been over sixty years since the American people trusted the Democrats with more than two consecutive presidential terms. Since Truman, only the Republicans have had three consecutive terms – Nixon/Ford and Reagan/Bush Sr. If the Republican candidate had been anyone other than Trump, that trend might have continued.

    Of course, Trump pretty much invalidated the entire Republican roster of wannabes this time. None of them will ever be contenders again.

  51. Opus says:

    This thread set me thinking about female CEO’s. We are always hearing about the glass ceiling enforced by men against women but I wonder how many CEO’s – I am here thinking of BP’s – would relish in the immediate aftermath of the Deepwater Horizon tragedy having (as must have been the case) the British government on ones back, and at the same time being publicly bullied by the American President and of course there were also the major shareholders and employees and the generally bad publicity to consider. One goes in a moment from being a high-flying exec at the peak of ones career, the commander of all he surveys, to a man at the mercy of events and of powers far far greater than even that of even a FTSE 100 company. It surely takes nerves of steel to get through that and it is for such events that the large salaries and perks of such men really get paid. In business, decisions have to be made, the results whereof can not always be guaranteed and where indecision is not an option, being battered by and having to negotiate conflicting priorities.

    I would not relish the responsibility.

  52. desiderian says:

    “A good amount of effort is taken to introduce her as the woman who is one of the guys.”

    Smack in the middle of that you see her alpha boyfriend passing her shit tests, with some supplicating beta on the rig getting shot down. She also fails to get her car started.

    So one part being one of the guys, two parts (she’s a damsel in distress later) trying to be one of the guys and not getting quite getting there. She does demonstrate a level of integrity lacking in many of the men.

  53. desiderian says:

    “I can’t imagine BP thinking that it is. BP execs are portrayed as the villains.”

    They do get one of the finest actors of our generation (Malkovich) to play the lead guy on site. He’s more mistaken than gratuitously evil like most corporate bad guys in movies.

  54. technovelist says:

    Even as cynical an observer as myself is revolted by the media feeding frenzy based on what is obviously a planned and coordinated hit job on Trump, now including the RNC cutting off support for his TV ads that he helped them raise money for.

    If anyone can rightly complain about a vast conspiracy, it isn’t Hillary with her (in-)famous “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy”. It’s Trump.

  55. technovelist says:

    And BTW, anyone who thinks that women will take the blame for the catastrophe of a Clinton presidency is very naive. It will be weak men’s fault, as always.

  56. Tarl says:

    “Taken” is acceptable as a movie premise because Liam Neeson’s father character is divorced.

    I hated, hated, hated the ending of that movie. After all the effort he put into rescuing his daughter, he hands her over to his cunty ex-wife and her douchebag new husband. FUCK THAT.

    My ending: Liam’s character and his daughter leave Paris and move to Rio, where he teaches her his assassin skills. Periodically he calls his ex-wife and taunts her.

  57. Avraham rosenblum says:

    A later “Taken” actually shows the new husband as a in fact being no good. That also is not PC.

  58. Hmm says:

    @technovelist: .And BTW, anyone who thinks that women will take the blame for the catastrophe of a Clinton presidency is very naive. It will be weak men’s fault, as always.”

    Of course it will. Hillary can blame Obama, who left her that mess. Congress (mostly men) who won’t let her have her way. and of course, George W. Bush.

  59. SmashtheMatriarchy says:

    Gunner Q on October 13, 2016 at 2:14 pm
    “Hollywood has begun to struggle financially.”

    Excellent. I say let them crumble. Just like the “News” Media. We shouldnt give them a red cent, a click, or ratings. They need to go bankrupt and go away, then be replaced.
    I think Hollywood has been making less for a while, which is evidenced by their constant remaking or inventing a prequel or sequel (and far too many years seperated from the previous) to any move in the last 30 years that turned a profit. They cant afford to lose on something that is an unknown. Unfortunately they are still afloat, and unfortunately too many average Joes and Janes (that Hollywood despises) are still spending their hard-earned- throughout-the-depression money to keep alive, imho.

  60. Camden says:

    It was interesting to learn that wars were more frequent when a woman was reigning, but I suspect that the SJW’s will argue that this is because male rulers attack them because…err… misogyny – a bit like when it became clear that men are better drivers than women, they claimed that this was because ‘aggressive male drivers’ caused women to have accidents.

  61. Cane Caldo says:

    @Avraham

    Dr Kelley Ross noted that everything about Taken was politically incorrect.

    Luc Besson is an interesting guy. He’s not “Red Pill”, but I suspect political correctness bores him…basically Besson is French. From Paris with Love isn’t PC either. Both written by Besson.

  62. SmashtheMatriarchy says:

    Avraham rosenblum on October 14, 2016 at 3:26 am
    “Dr Kelley Ross noted that everything about Taken was politically incorrect.”

    Let me burst everyone’s bubble then. Liam Neison fell in love with Islam while overseas filming Taken 7, or whichever, a couple/few years ago. It was noteworthy at the time to me because of what he said. Basically (I think in Turkey) he heard the [blasphemous] call to prayer blasted through loudspeakers everyday (as they do) and at first he said it drove him crazy, but after multiple times a day, every day for multiple weeks he suddenly found himself in love with it. It stuck out to me because I immediately thought, “that’s called getting brainwashed.” Sad he couldnt percieve that. But considering his profession, he was likely ripe for the pickin.

  63. Avraham rosenblum says:

    I had in fact heard about that. Still I would like to judge Liam Neison on the scales of merit.

  64. Gunner Q says:

    “It stuck out to me because I immediately thought, “that’s called getting brainwashed.””

    Too strong of a word. Anybody who abandons one religion because he got used to the daily routine of another religion did not exactly have deep roots to begin with. Some atheists despise all religions and some happily wander through each one.

    No wonder movies are expensive if the studios have five religious stoppages a day on top of union-mandated smoking breaks. Why film a movie in Turkey when Arizona is next door anyway?

  65. Boxer says:

    Dear Cane:

    Luc Besson is an interesting guy. He’s not “Red Pill”, but I suspect political correctness bores him…basically Besson is French. From Paris with Love isn’t PC either. Both written by Besson.

    Sort of a cheesy old low-budget film, but one of my favorites. Check out La Femme Nikita (circa late 1980s) with Jean Reno as Victor (nettoyeur).

    Boxer

  66. SmashtheMatriarchy says:

    Avraham rosenblum on October 14, 2016 at 1:52 pm
    “I had in fact heard about that. Still I would like to judge Liam Neison on the scales of merit.”

    Well to me, religious choices are pretty significant. Especially making THAT choice, this day and age.

    Gunner Q
    “Too strong of a word. Anybody who abandons one religion because he got used to the daily routine of another religion did not exactly have deep roots to begin with.”

    Oh I doubt he had deep roots in anything either, that was why I mentioned his occupation and him likely being ripe for the pickin. I pretty much assume now that 99.8% of people in Hollywood are atheist or spiritual drifters, thus easy prey for the strong influences, or the whatever the newest non-Christian religious trend of the hour is.
    But I still think going from detesting the sound of something (which happens to be a hardcore religious proclamation that is also strongly spiritual in nature and could definitely affect the spiritually weak) one day, then after having been forced to hear it drilled into your head everyday for weeks you have succumb to it entirely is grounds for being brainwashed. Spiritual words/prayers/rituals can have consequences, if you will, they aren’t just empty. Taking part in, or even being exposed to rituals, especially repeatedly, can powerfully affect people. And there are only two sources/kinds of contact.

    “No wonder movies are expensive if the studios have five religious stoppages a day on top of union-mandated smoking breaks. Why film a movie in Turkey when Arizona is next door anyway?”

    Cause it’s a great “cultural experience,” and with any luck John Q Public will foot the bill in the end anyways. Which brings me back to my previous comment: SmashtheMatriarchy on October 14, 2016 at 12:37 pm.

  67. Boxer says:

    I had in fact heard about that. Still I would like to judge Liam Neison on the scales of merit.

    Agreed. Fun fact: another Muslim you’d never guess is Peter Murphy, lead singer of the old goth rock outfit Bauhaus.

    Most Muslims are decent enough people. Granted, they have some goofy traditions, but from my perspective, so do Jews and Quakers.

    Feminism is making rapid inroads into American Islam, btw. I sorta wonder if the refugee influx isn’t motivated by establishment sheiks in Arab-land to try to infuse some patriarchy into these degenerating colonies.

    Boxer

  68. American says:

    Well yes Dalrock… but he still gets blown off a rig and watches his friends die in the end. No normal hetrosexual male gets away scot free in Hollyweird.

  69. Anon says:

    Boxer,

    I sorta wonder if the refugee influx isn’t motivated by establishment sheiks in Arab-land to try to infuse some patriarchy into these degenerating colonies.

    If they openly SAID that, and did a slick marketing campaign instead of random terrorist violence, then not only would a lot of Americans switch sides in their favor, but many of them would be women too.

    The only reason ‘feminism’ and Orthodox Islam are not in conflict with each other is because cuckservatives and other beta blue pillers are standing in the way.

  70. feeriker says:

    I predict that, should Clinton win, her first term will be relatively benign; maybe even uneventful.

    Given her (obvious) health issues, it’s likely to be very, VERY short.

  71. Oscar says:

    @ feeriker

    From your keyboard to God’s ear.

  72. Luke says:

    The law on legal damages at the time of the Horizon spill was that they were limited to a maximum of 75 million dollars. I think that the legal department at BP should have Fed Exed the Feds an envelope containing three things: 1) a Xerox of the law limiting enviro legal damages in one event to 75 mill; 2) a Xerox of the ex post facto law prohibition in the U.S. Constitution; and, 3) a check for 75 million that read at the bottom “PAID IN FULL”.

  73. Kevin says:

    Amazing that a movie which presents the most common view of married men – loved by their wives and children – is the exception. We live in a sick culture and feminism is a sickness of the mind designed to make every joy into drudgery.

  74. This is essentially why I don’t go to movies or use Netflix, or watch television anymore.
    I will watch great college football game or a baseball game.
    But the rest is sewage.

    Most film and television shows today regard men are bumbling idiots, ogres, sexless mangina lappies, pedophiles, controlling assholes, or rapists. The contrast of male portrayal to female characters has never been more stark and begging of belief.

    This “men as a punchline” plot device is now pervasive, and certainly delights women, young and old.

    So I can’t really understand why any man would agree to watch an action drama or RomCom film, ever.

    I would rather have my ten fingernails and ten toenails pulled out slowly with a pair of pliers and then dipped in turpentine.

    I don’t think men should not subject themselves to this drivel, unless there is some significant reward for doing so.

  75. cynthia says:

    I know I’m late to this, but I really liked how the female character was portrayed in this movie. She starts out coming across as some kind of mechanical bad-ass with her Mustang (but fails to fix it). You think she’s going to be in a hands-on role as they fly out, but nope, she’s a junior employee working in the wheelhouse. She’s good at her job, and somewhat manages to keep it together during the crisis itself, but is shown struggling. She cracks to a greater degree than most of the men do. At the end, she goes into a full meltdown that almost gets her killed. Her last line in the film is her thanking the main character for getting her home.

    My boyfriend thought the meltdown was the most unrealistic part of the movie. To me, it was the most accurate. Even if it isn’t exactly how it happened in real life, it does feel real. Panic sets in and she can’t turn it off. This is a very real thing for us ladies – we seem to lack those deferment mechanisms men have.

    And I appreciated that the movie let all the characters kneel down together and pray at a critical moment. That would have been easy not to put in. But it was amazing to see Hollywood honor that.

  76. Tomasz G. says:

    Tangential to the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJM6BkUys7o
    (father – daughter dynamic)

    The daughters need male presence and influence. However, my girls only get to be princesses when I play the king. The rest of quality time is e.g. holding a screwdriver for me, when I am working on a hobby. Unfortunately, they’re to little to help me with some tasks involving the use of a PC right now. Other activities include carrying light stuff when I’m running errands. It’s like giving a little Poke’mon a berry. A 5-year-old can pay enough attention to carry 1 item.

  77. Chicago-JSO says:

    I have to admit not spending a lot of time watching Christian directed content. But I’ve found that most secular shows, even some which were/are very negative toward fathers, have slowly come around to at least balancing the father’s faults with the wife/woman’s similar faults. I think it’s partly that showing a perfect wife with a bad husband over and over get’s boring. I think one of the best examples of this is Bobs Burgers. I’m sure many here could rip it to shreds with regard to how negatively it portrays the husband Bob. Yet compared many shows and certainely the Christian movies you review here it makes the husband seem like a saint. Even at its worst, of all the characters he’s the one you empathize with. Some other popular shows have been much more subtle. But I think the shift is real, and not on the fringe but in the main stream. The examples at this point are myriad but I do see it. Maybe it’s another example of your entropy?

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