Do as you please with their wives, so long as you respect her in the morning.

It has been telling that Republican outrage over the audio of Trump describing his attempt to cuckold other men is almost entirely focused on the fact that Trump spoke crudely in describing the way women threw themselves at him.  Cuckoldry they don’t mind, but describing slutty women with disrespectful language is unacceptable!

Trump had claimed he pushed a married woman to have sex with him and said he could grab women “by the p****” because he was a celebrity. A recording of his conversation with then-”Access Hollywood” host Billy Bush was published by NBC News and The Washington Post on Friday.

“No woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. Ever,” Priebus said in a statement released that night.

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126 Responses to Do as you please with their wives, so long as you respect her in the morning.

  1. It has the never-trumpers stirred up again, and gives them an out. They figure that this takes the pressure to endorse him off, which is against their true desires (read: Jeb).

    And since when did females become some exalted form of life? It’s like Battle for the Panet of the Apes — you are never allowed to talk back to a woman, but she doesn’t have to respect you at all.

    Oh, I forgot…”privilege”…the idea that they lifted from Lewis Farrakhan and made mainstream.

  2. horatius67 says:

    The hypocrisy here is sickening. You’ve got these holier than thou Republicans rending their garments over Trumps crude words from 10 years ago, but they wink and nod for 20 years at the Whoremonger in Chief, serial rapist Bill Clinton. And Paul Ryan is a disgrace. What has he ever done politically but makes faces at the Democrats? has he ever stood up for a principle? Oh, yes. That “women are to championed and revered.” Really?? What a rush of moral superiority these mangina’s must get when they get to judge Trump, and turn to thier wives and say “I’m not like him at all, honey! Really!” No, not one of them ever sat in a doem, a barracks, or a bar and said similar things, or laughed when someone else did.

  3. David J. says:

    Christians (maybe especially women?) who have given Hillary a pass — despite her remaining married (for her own political advancement) to a man who has spent a lifetime committing adultery, sometimes abusively and sometimes even raping his targets, AND despite her being his attack dog to slander, harass, and discredit the women who came forward about it — are nevertheless treating Trump as the antichrist for merely talking about similar but apparently less egregious behavior. Ridiculous.

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  5. That’s because they are globalists, just like Hillary. The fact that they hold their nominee, in October, to an impossible standard that they don’t even hold the opposing party to proves that they are double-agents. It’s amazing that Trump has punched through the system as far as he has thus far.

    The irony of all this is that if he were a soft-shoed, hand-wringing “nice guy” like the rest of the Republican field, he never would have risen to the top like he did.

    If he isn’t elected, we will never see another Republican in the White House, ever again…and that’s even IF there is another election after this.

  6. The Question says:

    I posted this comment at Le Chateau but thought I’d include it here.

    This whole controversy is about as absurd as the blowup over Phil Robertson’s remarks on homosexuals. Just put aside for a moment the merits of what they said. Is anyone genuinely surprised they said it?

    What did people honestly expect to find out when it comes to how Trump talks about women? Did they think the audio recording would have him conveying a chivalrous attitude and concern for maintaining “a fair maiden’s honor.” Do they think he refers to Melania as “milady” behind closed doors?

    How many presidents have fooled around with women? Just in the 20th Century you had Harding, FDR, JFK, LBJ, Clinton….and those are just a few that come to mind.

    Infidelity and politics go together like bacon and eggs. If you don’t like that, it’s one thing. But don’t gasp in horror when someone has bacon with their eggs.

    The only thing more ridiculous than this would be people talking to a war veteran and then be shocked – shocked, I tell you – to discover that he engaged in “violent” behavior while fighting for his life on the front lines.

    The people of this country are in total denial about reality on so many life truths – this is just one example.

  7. Mycroft Jones says:

    Chasing married women… something he has in common with his friend General Petraeus then. I was uneasy when I heard Trump was friends with Petraeus. Birds of a feather do flock together.

  8. Zippy says:

    Hysterical and right on target.

  9. Lola says:

    I didn’t listen to the audio, but have read the pertinent points.
    From my vantage point it is pretty absurd in light of the fact that we have been seeing a flood of leaks exposing just how corrupt Hillary Clinton is, but we must talk about Trump’s use of bad words. She has been proven to have committed ethical crimes that would have led any other sitting president in history (exception her husband, who went to work upon being impeached and disbarred as though it were just another day in the office) to resign from office.
    The same media that has given the Clintons a pass on serious allegations of rape and cover-up, now feign indignation over a bawdy conversation. I guess those who are switching their vote to Hillary because of The Donald tape, will have the satisfaction of knowing that if she wins, while our borders and economy will collapse, our foreign policy will be a disaster, and terrorists will be pouring in, etc., at least, she will not have said a “bad” word on tape.

  10. Spike says:

    The whole “Trump is a misogynist” is massive crock.
    Under Obama, at least six countries in the Middle East have been destabilised leading to the rise of fundamentalist Islam. Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen Syria to name a few. Ukraine has also had a period of civil war, leading to a coalition of bloodthirsty right wing extremists, Hilary Clinton was Foreign Secretary so it is impossible for he not to know of this.
    She has therefore put millions of women in harms’ way regarding Islam in the Middle East, where formerly stable countries were. The number of assaults and rapes increase in war.

    Hilary is the ultimate misogynist. She just does it by Islamic fundamentalist / right wing extremist proxy.

  11. Anonymous Reader says:

    The faux outrage is laughable. Far worse things have been done by GOP politicians. For example, what did Priebus know about Dennis Hastert’s … habits … and when did he know? How about Paul Ryan?

    Shall we discuss the many disgusting issues with Congressional pages, both male and female, over the years? Yeah, I didn’t think so. Cover that stuff up, don’t talk about it.

  12. Anon says:

    Cuckoldry they don’t mind, but describing slutty women with disrespectful language is unacceptable!

    That is why they are CUCKservatives.

    All men with game should seek out the wives of cuckservatives and cuckold the cuckservative. Since all parties get what they want, everybody wins!

    The GOP cucks are so pathetic that they are beyond parody.

    Plus, just seeing how much the lefties hate Trump is ALONE reason enough to support him (assuming he is a legit candidate, which we just don’t know). The anti-Trump cuckservatives have revealed that being hated by the left does not clue them in to what to do.

  13. Anon says:

    boydoesn’tmeetgirl,

    It’s like Battle for the Panet of the Apes —

    We are well past the stage of….

    “How did this upside-down society get started”, and…

    “Get your stinking paws off of my money, you damn dirty feminist”..

    We are even past the stage of Reagan’s “Never speak ill of another Republican”, which is highly analogous to “Ape shall never kill Ape”.

    We are in full blown Mentos commercial mode. See here :

    That was a superbly chosen overly of the Mentos commercial music over the payback against some Futrelle-type manginas. It is fun to watch.

  14. Anon says:

    Maybe this link starts precisely at 18:49, which is when the Mentos starts :

  15. Swanny River says:

    I wonder if how low he will drop in the weekly attending churchgoers vote. I think we went 65% for Romney, but am not confident about that. Both percentage, and overall voters, that is. Dalrock pins the smelly cartoonish outrage rightly. My lieutenant gov, Calley in MI, dropped Trump over it, saying a man shouldn’t talk about a woman that way. It means we don’t give a shit about truth or God, and will soon feel his judgment. Another thing, why the flying F do my brothers make such earnest confessional prayers about sins like this or worse and then act like Victorian prudes when an unbeliever says it. Again I ask, are we a social club or church in the PCA and Reformed churches?
    I didn’t like Carter, but I hated how people jeered him for saying he was adulterous because of his thoughts. Any decent sdult conversation shouldn’t consider the fact of lust or attraction as shocking.

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  17. feeriker says:

    Cuckoldry they don’t mind, but describing slutty women with disrespectful language is unacceptable!

    Ashamed as I should be to admit it, I would ROTFLMAO, to the point of stroking out, if it were revealed that The Donald had “grudgef***ed” ALL of the wives (and maybe even some of the daughters) of the current GOP national “leadership” – women who no doubt would probably have thrown themselves at him even as he let it be known in attitude and action how contemptuous he was of them as he had them riding the orgasm rollercoaster.

    The reactions of their pathetic, cucked douchebag husbands would be worth Trump’s entire fortune just to see.

  18. Kevin says:

    Trump is an idiot who is losing the most winnable presidential election of all time. The Republicans are the stupid of all stupid parties self destructing by choosing him. But this stuff is small potatoes. The correct response is basically, “The economy is dying and there is a criminal running for office who has reduced several countries to war, and you want me to car about some locker room talk? Get serious.” But instead. they all need to signal to the college educated female voters that even though you are a reformed slut, we join in your newfound outrage at crude talk because now you want to settle down and pretend you are a saint.

    I wish our presidents were angels, but sometimes they are not. As foul as the opposition is in every way possible, this outrage over Trump being an immoral person is meaningless. We have big problems. He can go to hell when God judges him, I don’t care. I just need someone for president who is going to not do any more stupid crap and if that is him, so be it.

  19. Anon says:

    Condoleeza Rice calls for Donald Trump to withdraw.

    Grossly overestimating the number of people who value what she thinks, eh?

    It is amazing how many people I once held in high regard just made fools of themselves by overplaying their hand on something they have no business talking about…

  20. Tarl says:

    Chasing married women… something he has in common with his friend General Petraeus then. I was uneasy when I heard Trump was friends with Petraeus. Birds of a feather do flock together.

    Pfffft. Petraeus is only a situational alpha not a genuine alpha. In this he is similar to many military officers who are all macho chest-thumping until they see a woman and then they turn into nauseating white-knighting betaboys.

    The reason Petraeus cheated was not because he was alpha, but because his wife looks like this:

  21. feeriker says:

    Trump is an idiot who is losing the most winnable presidential election of all time. The Republicans are the stupid of all stupid parties self destructing by choosing him.

    You –along with most other Americans– are taking this election theater too seriously. The next Sock Puppet-in-Chief has already been chosen. The “[s]election” is simply an entertainment spectacle for the One Percent, a Pavlovian exercise in conditioning the gullible rube 99 percent to believe they have a voice in their own destiny.

    Trump is “losing” this [s]election because that is the role scripted for him to help him get his old pal Hillary into the White House (we’ve already had disabled, black, gay, Muslim, and mentally retarded SPiCs. The only “minority” left unrepresented in that chair is a woman. It’s “time,” according to the One Percent that makes those decisions). That’s fine with him, because he has ZE-RO interest in being SPiC. He has more self-respect –and far more productive things to do with his life– than play the role of “Piss Boy” for the bankster-military-industrial cabal.

    Trump, though not exactly an “outsider,” does not have the Deep State institutional connections required to be SPiC, and is of course too outspoken and assertive to be allowed anywhere near a position that requires him to sustain the status quo through artful lying. His current role is that of an actor (see “The Apprentice” for his CV here). He is playing “the voters” (i.e., the majority two-thirds of the electorate who, ironically, by taking voting seriously, prove themselves to be too stupid to be allowed to vote in a real, honest, clean election, if such a thing existed) like violins. He is probably having the laugh of his life over this whole charade.

  22. feeriker says:

    Condoleeza Rice calls for Donald Trump to withdraw.

    Twoferleeza Rice could publicly state that 2+2 =22, that Antarctica is the Capital of Australia, and that Syria is destined to become a province of Israel (it wouldn’t surprise me if she actually DID say the last two), and no one would call her on it, for obvious reasons. The fact that she was beloved as SecState by our first retarded SPiC tells you alm you neex to know about her actual abilities.

  23. Anon says:

    feeriker,

    Trump is “losing” this [s]election because that is the role scripted for him to help him get his old pal Hillary into the White House

    Yep. If the GOP cucks had any brains, they would attack Trump on this, as this is the only attack they could use that would in fact work.

    But yes, the whole thing is scripted. Trump’s performance deliberately rises and falls, as is to be expected by a candidate who wants to win 45% of the vote (150-180 EVs) and no more, as the true goal is for Hillary to be in the white house.

    Funny how Hillary, Trump, and the GOP cucks all have the same goal.

  24. ayatollah1988 says:

    Reminds me of the outrage over the banners that male college students unfurled on campus saying “daughter drop-off.” Much pearl-clutching ensued over their taunt, implying that they were going to have sex with the daughters being dropped off for their first year of college. It’s strange how there’s outrage over the boys SAYING they’re gonna F the daughters but I was more outraged over how clueless these beta dads were. Their daughters ARE going to sleep with those guys, or guys just like them. And it’s not going to be rape, they will do it willingly. And the dads aren’t doing a damn thing about it. “Oh sure, we all know that I’m basically dropping my little 18 year-old girl at Sodom and Gomorrah State University where she will ruin herself sexually, but your not supposed to SAY it.”

    Similarly, I was more outraged at the fact that there are women out there volunteered for and enjoyed a good groping by the Don behind their husbands’ backs, and perhaps got away with it.

  25. Anon says:

    Oh sure, we all know that I’m basically dropping my little 18 year-old girl at Sodom and Gomorrah State University where she will ruin herself sexually,

    Sodom and Gomorrah
    Sodomy and Gonorrhea

  26. Anon says:

    The debate moderators were terrible.

    Some call Anderson Cooper and Mothra Raddatz ‘the fag and his hag’…

    But did you see her face? ‘Bride of Skeletor’, to say the least..

  27. feeriker says:

    The reason Petraeus cheated was not because he was alpha, but because his wife looks like this:

    Are you sure that’s a WOMAN?!

  28. Isabelle says:

    ” Cuckoldry they don’t mind, but describing slutty women with disrespectful language is unacceptable! ”

    Welcome to the New Immoral Order set up by females and their white knight fools.

    Notice that that clique of manginas did not say a word about the dishonoured husband. No , it’s all about women .
    Wives are disrespectful to their husbands but they are never to be rebuked for doing what they love best : having sex with everyone but the husband.

    Is it something new ? No it isn’t . Why do you think that God commanded adulterous wives to be put to death ?
    And also non virginal brides to be killed as well ?

    Because he knows more than anyone how much women love free sex and debauchery.
    I was all for free sex before being a Christian …

    Here in France , there is a brand new website concept entirely thought by WOMEN .
    The website is gleeeden.com and it is a website all devoted to adultery !!!
    (Notice the reference to Eden in the name of the website ..Eden , the place where the woman learnt to usurp her man’s authority …).

    When I think of those so called “men of God” on You Tube who talks about women as “innocent ” and almost non sexual creatures !!!!
    What kind of jokes are those men really ?
    They must have skipped some critical passages in the Bible , their eyes are still not opened to the real world of mariageless sex and sexless marriage …
    Poor men .

  29. Framboise says:

    ” Cuckoldry they don’t mind, but describing slutty women with disrespectful language is unacceptable! ”

    Welcome to the New Immoral Order set up by females and their white knight fools.

    Notice that that clique of manginas did not say a word about the dishonoured husband. No , it’s all about women .
    Wives are disrespectful to their husbands but they are never to be rebuked for doing what they love best : having sex with everyone but the husband.

    Is it something new ? No it isn’t . Why do you think that God commanded adulterous wives to be put to death ?
    And also non virginal brides to be killed as well ?

    Because he knows more than anyone how much women love free sex and debauchery.
    I was all for free sex before being a Christian …

    Here in France , there is a brand new website concept entirely thought by WOMEN .
    The website is gleeeden.com and it is a website all devoted to adultery !!!
    (Notice the reference to Eden in the name of the website ..Eden , the place where the woman learnt to usurp her man’s authority …).

    When I think of those so called “men of God” on You Tube who talks about women as “innocent ” and almost non sexual creatures !!!!
    What kind of jokes are those men really ?
    They must have skipped some critical passages in the Bible , their eyes are still not opened to the real world of mariageless sex and sexless marriage …
    Poor men .

  30. sipcode says:

    Trump is exposing problems in America (and elsewhere). He has been exposing symptoms. Now he has just exposed the illness. Who has had the balls to do that in politics or the church?

  31. sipcode says:

    Women are whores at the most basic nature (Gen 3:16 plus many OT and handful of NT scripture). Nothing has changed, not even in our reformed good women. It is still lurking under the surface in our wives, daughters, and mothers. We need to be vigilant because it is being fed in them with all kinds of ‘you can have the power over men’ including the ‘right’ to vote and be in office. Illicit authority that has the wrath of God a going.

    The world will do its thing. But the healing of the church will not happen until its women are seen and not heard: quiet, modest, and respectful, obedient and submissive in everything with there husbands, learning about God at home. Then and only then will the church see men flourish in the image that they alone were created in.

  32. On the topic, I saw the “response” before I could get to what he said. I’d already dismissed it as “locker room” talk, but it’s… barely even that. You’ll see worse things in the first 50 comments of a cute cat video.

    But I finally got supremely steamed at the cucks. Craven beyond belief. They clearly only care about their gravy train. (Which so dovetails into the issues with Pastors we deal with around here.) I haven’t been that deeply offended in a lot while, I’ll be honest. I actually have voted for some of these cucks, too.

    @feeriker & anon:

    I’ve probably brought this up before, but it bears repeating. That’s not how “TPTB” actually control things. As much as they’d like that much control, unless it’s very local, they don’t actually have it. And their control really doesn’t extend as far as people think, simply because TPTB have gotten far less skilled over the last 100 years. They’re very much short-term thinkers, which is why DB is going down and it’s going to produce carnage. They did this in 2008 as well, which wiped out a huge chunk of their ranks. (Because you don’t get to play with the “big boys” if you don’t have a certain amount of standing/money.)

    I work in a field where the TPTB really do have supreme influence & control, but it’s not like 3-card monte. (Though some aspects actually are.) The voting is still real, which is why they have to use as much voter fraud as they can get. Phone Polling is dying this year, so one of their key information sources is going with it as well. They operate by manipulation & intimidation. But that only works when they can isolate groups, and they haven’t caught on that societies are starting to become more immune to a lot of it. (Over-saturation by Media actually is the cause of this.)

    Trump does have Deep-State ties. Which most don’t realize, along with not realizing there’s been a massive war within the Deep-State itself. Obama ran a lot of flag officers out of positions and the NatSec establishment hasn’t been happy with him since. The Intel community clearly has had it in for Clinton this entire cycle. (Which is sort of funny as they did a number to the Bush Clan in the post-Invasion Iraq era, even if Bush 41 was a former CIA head.)

    But Trump’s Deep-State ties come from the parts that really don’t like the Banking Elite. (Or, more accurately, the parts that hate the Bankers because they were able to get off scot-free when they cost all of them a ton of money.) And this is an election that the Bankers desperately need one of “their” people in the White House. Because things are going to hell very, very soon. They’re holding the markets for the moment, but they can’t hold them forever. Mostly as they’re all sharks anyway. (A French Revolution repeat is something they all fear. Deeply.)

    This is where Trump contrasts with the Ron & Rand Paul. Trump understands the “game” far too well. (He’s been in construction in NYC for decades, so he’s used to dealing with the Mafia. People easily forget this.) Trumps attack selection is much, much better. I believe the Pauls are generally honest Men (or at least as much as politics allows), but they didn’t understand the “game”. They knew there was a problem and, roughly, how to start addressing it, but little different from a Pastor seeing the problems in his church but having no clue how to deal with it except doubling-down on yelling at the Men, they didn’t understand the issue well enough to build an attack path that split groups apart. Trump is very good at that.

    The Elites wouldn’t be attacking Trump the way they have been if he wasn’t a significant threat to them. Because he is. This was always going to be a bad Democrat cycle at the national level. With an Insider-Outsider bent. This is why Jeb! was running. This is why the RNC cleared out pretty much every viable elected Office Holder so Jeb! could run free and clear. (I favored Scott Walker early in the cycle, but they pretty much prevented him from getting any fundraising. It was a clear sign that the “fix” was supposed to be in.) But Jeb! couldn’t get 10% in Iowa.

    We’re in clear Realignment territory right now. The national economy is bad, and a lot of places it’s really bad. Which is mostly why Trump is going to win. He got the key issues and he knew his biggest vulnerability (which they dropped on him this weekend) could be removed because Hillary has Bill around. And because of the way people work, given the social & media environment, Hillary gets around +3% or so of people saying they’ll vote for her and won’t, while Trump clearly has much higher support that people can’t say yet. It’s been a fascinating process watching a lot of the older folks slowly get on board.

  33. Lola says:

    “The reason Petraeus cheated was not because he was alpha, but because his wife looks like this”

    Since he spent over four of his last five or so years in service deployed, that probably wasn’t so much of a player. They’ve been married for over forty years.
    And cheating isn’t alpha. Anyone can cheat.
    Furthermore, all alphas are situational alphas. People adapt to their environments.

  34. Lola says:

    Best response about the Trump video I’ve read (elsewhere):
    “Trump markets himself as an alpha male who gets what he wants… be it success in negotiation, domination of his enemies, or the cooperation of beautiful women.
    That is the exact product I am buying.

    If I found he was some sort of a closet wuss unable to talk a starry-eyed woman out of the use of her pussy, I’d be disappointed.

    As a bonus, there is a big difference between the use of personality, persuasion, or charm and good old-fashioned rape. The Clintons have made a big mistake here and are going to have a bad time until the next fake issue deflects attention.”

  35. Lyn87 says:

    I was not at all surprised at all the pearl-clutching surround Donald’s supposed “miss-oj-o-neee.” Hillary kept coming back to it again and again by mentioning “women” every chance she got – even when it was utterly beside the point. She was staying “on message” like her handlers told her to do.

    But that may be a case of thinking that everyone thinks like the people around you. (There was a cartoon after the Reagan landslide of 1980 where one college professor says to another, “I don’t see how Reagan won – I don’t know anyone who voted for him.”) The Democrat Party is filled to overflowing with feminists and other SJW-types who actually believe that “gender” and even biological sex are just “social constructs,” and that any disagreement with any woman at any time under any circumstances is proof that the speaker hates women and want’s to establish “Rape Rooms” on every street corner (unless that woman is perceived as a conservative, of course – then she’s fair game for any attack no matter how vile and spurious).

    So Hillary plays the “Woman Card” over and over and over and over and over – because everyone she knows thinks it’s valid – she may even think so herself. Now… guys like us (and, frankly, her loathsome husband) know it’s nonsense, and her followers are dense and deluded enough to swallow the poison bait, but I wonder how it’s going to play out among the people whose votes will decide the outcome (assuming they don’t vote in places where the machines are rigged).

    All that brings us back to the topic of the thread: “Women must always be shown respect no matter what.

    What a crock. This is just one more example of women and their white-knight enablers demanding that women be given something that men have to earn.

  36. infowarrior1 says:

    Ted Cruz exposed for the cuck he is yet again with his virtue signalling.

  37. infowarrior1 says:

    @Lola
    ”Furthermore, all alphas are situational alphas. People adapt to their environments”

    Donald Trump seems to indicate otherwise. Nothing about him cowering before women or submitting to them when encountering them.And a general masculine man in other areas of his life too.

    Men who turn into mush when encountering their wives or other women while being alpha is other situations show that they are not truly masculine its a mask that they put on rather than their inherent mode of being.

  38. Oscar says:

    Here’s a rundown of quotes from Republicans.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/08/here_are_the_republicans_calling_on_trump_to_drop_out_after_2005_audio_was.html

    House Speaker Paul Ryan (Wisconsin): “I am sickened by what I heard today. Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. I hope Mr. Trump treats this situation with the seriousness it deserves and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater respect for women than this clip suggests.”

    “Women are to be championed and revered… “? Are men to be championed and revered, or should only men worthy of reverence be championed and revered? Are all men worthy or reverence? Are all women worthy of reverence? Are there no women who behave in ways that make them unworthy of reverence?

    Isn’t it sexist to judge women by their sex while we judge men by their actions?

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah): “Mr. Trump’s comments were offensive and disgusting. There is no excuse for such degrading behavior. All women deserve to be treated with respect.”

    Are all women respectable? Is there not one woman out there who behaves in ways unworthy of respect?

    Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these men?

  39. Lola says:

    “Donald Trump seems to indicate otherwise. Nothing about him cowering before women or submitting to them when encountering them. And a general masculine man in other areas of his life too.”

    I don’t think “not cowering or submitting to” women is in any way the measure of an alpha.
    Now, I’m on team Trump, in a huge way. But for a hypothetical let’s imagine we…
    Take away Trump’s power and status.
    His selection and choices in said case would be much different. He would no longer be the alpha in his current environment. He’d have to adapt differently to a new environment (where he might, theoretically, become the alpha, but it’s doubtful he would start out that way).

  40. Chris says:

    “From my vantage point it is pretty absurd in light of the fact that we have been seeing a flood of leaks exposing just how corrupt Hillary Clinton is, but we must talk about Trump’s use of bad words.”

    As the popular Facebook meme says, I’m much more concerned about what Hillary has done than I am about what Trump has said. She’s political Teflon, and I fear she’s gonna cross the finish line first.

  41. Lola says:

    “Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these men?”

    They’re politicians and they’ve already written off this year as a loss for the Republican party.
    They don’t expect Trump to win and they’re appealing to the people they believe represent their voter base.
    I think people seriously underestimate how punch-drunk the public is of claims of “female abuse”. But then, it might just be confirmation bias for me.
    Every wristband/teeshirt/bumper sticker to “raise awareness” of a disease as though that’s the secret to a cure, confuses me. Yet people do it in droves. I think it’s kind of like multi level marketing. Strong-arm your friends and local businesses into taking part and then shame everyone who doesn’t cheer and throw money.

  42. michael savell says:

    I think it’s sad that,a very important election is to be held which may have huge consequences
    for the rest of the western world and it all relies on whether some women have hurt feelings over
    some boastful jabberings.Take this to it’s logical conclusion would mean that no man will ever be elected again since an anonymous person will always be able to be persuaded for a few bucks
    to falsely accuse any male candidate.Until the USA can maintain justice it will always be despised.

  43. sipcode says:

    “No woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. Ever,” Priebus said in a statement released that night.

    Funny, scripture talks about women as whores and adulteresses, tearing men down and seeking their authority.

    Also, thanks to Dalrock for limiting [I presume] comments from women –
    “Note: This site is unusual in that it is a male space. Please see the comment policy” including “When women enter a male space, they inevitably change that space by their presence.”

    All too true. And it is a waste of men’s time. We have listened to women far too long and if anything we need to default in the other direction to let full masculinity return.

    And, the ONLY displeasure God expressed AT Adam in the Garden was:
    “Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife” Gen 3:17a.

    If men don’t listen, then we can’t hearken and then God will not have displeasure toward a man for that reason.

  44. Boxer says:

    Women are whores at the most basic nature (Gen 3:16 plus many OT and handful of NT scripture). Nothing has changed, not even in our reformed good women. It is still lurking under the surface in our wives, daughters, and mothers. We need to be vigilant because it is being fed in them with all kinds of ‘you can have the power over men’ including the ‘right’ to vote and be in office. Illicit authority that has the wrath of God a going.

    Both men and women have instincts which are deeply at odds with high culture and civilization. The genius of the New Testament is both in the recognition of sex differences and in the outline which leads to a truly equal society. Patriarchy (as described by Saul of Tarsus/St. Paul) worked so well because it was fair to both sexes and offered the best balance and most happiness.

    That CONservatives forget this is not surprising. These people who pretend to care about women can’t even CONserve women’s bathroom spaces. It’s now common for your daughter to go into the toilet, and have to worry about some weird tranny being in there waving his pecker around. They also couldn’t CONserve the open internet. Expect to see increasing censorship and restrictions around sites like Dalrock. Mike Crapo, the CONservative congressman from Idaho, is one of the loudest critics of Trump’s locker room bantz. He’s also the sponsor of the Violence Against Women Act and numerous other anti-family laws.

    These people are totally worthless, and not your friends.

    Boxer

  45. Lola says:

    Point take sipcode thanks for the reminder and bye bye

  46. @sipcode:

    The Lord calls both Israel & Judah whores. A few times. Haha.

    Or there’s the entire discussion about Jezebel. “Whore of Babylon”.

  47. Dystopia Max says:

    All of the people denouncing Trump outside of Ryan were either Utah reps or Mountain State cucks who fit the akinokure profile to a tee.

    The Utah question may have to be answered with some drone bombing of the NSA Mormon Welfare Server farms, as well as the supplement factories and Multi-level Marketing training camps. If they surrender unconditionally, we may let them go back to Egypt peacefully.

  48. Dystopia Max says:

    “Or there’s the entire discussion about Jezebel. “Whore of Babylon”.”

    Sell this election to your Christian friends as the ‘Jehu Versus Jezebel” election. The last debate wasn’t quite throwing Jezebel off the roof to feed the dogs, but that’s something that’s better done at the last debate.

  49. feeriker says:

    The world will do its thing. But the healing of the church will not happen until its women are seen and not heard: quiet, modest, and respectful, obedient and submissive in everything with there husbands, learning about God at home. Then and only then will the church see men flourish in the image that they alone were created in.

    This would be the church’s internal Armageddon, the battle which might very well tear apart and destroy its earthly form. “Christian” women WILL NOT adhere to the Biblical prescriptions for conduct without what amounts to a patriarchal tyranny forcibly bringing them into line. Given that the church ALWAYS succumbs to the culture, at least here in the Western world, and that there is effectively ZE-RO chance of a restoration of hard patriarchy occurring (in a society populated in the main by three generations of gelded manginas? Puh-lease.), this is a battle that will never be fought within the corporations that have been masquerading as churches for the last 1,700 years. The only hope will be ftom within the “underground” church that will naturally arise from the decay and the persecution of the remnant that rejects the corruption that churchianity represents.

    It’s gonna get REAL ugly, guys. More so than any of us can imagine. The ultimate division between humans is between men and the helpmeets that God created for them, “helpmeets” that are now more than at any time in human history in open rebellion and who in deed, if not word, are rejecting not only their God-given roles and the men to whom God gave them, but God Himself. This is Satan’s deadliest weapon and he is employing it right now with its maximum firepower capacity. Even more insidiously, he has enlisted a willing army from among those who consider themselves to be “Godly.” These are indeed the final days.

  50. @Anonymous Reader

    what did Priebus know about Dennis Hastert’s … habits … and when did he know?

    According to former FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, everybody – Republicans and Democrats and half the intelligence agencies on earth – knew all about Dennis Hastert. The Republicans – even the ones that were so-called “social conservatives” (remember, Hastert was a “social conservative” too) knew all about Hastet.

    The Hastert scandal wasn’t just about one incident many years ago – Hastert, according to Edmonds, was an active pedophile that took trips to foreign countries AS Speaker to rape little boys. And the GOP establishment knew all about it. Bill Clinton knew about it and prevented the FBI was prosecuting because it was more politically advantageous to have something on Hastert that could be used for blackmail.

    This is your Republican party – this is what they are. Maybe that is WHY they posture as “social conservatives” – so their dimwitted voters won’t figure it out.

  51. OKRickety says:

    Oscar said on October 10, 2016 at 8:23 am

    “Women are to be championed and revered… “? Are men to be championed and revered, or should only men worthy of reverence be championed and revered? Are all men worthy or reverence? Are all women worthy of reverence? Are there no women who behave in ways that make them unworthy of reverence?

    Isn’t it sexist to judge women by their sex while we judge men by their actions?

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah): “Mr. Trump’s comments were offensive and disgusting. There is no excuse for such degrading behavior. All women deserve to be treated with respect.”

    Are all women respectable? Is there not one woman out there who behaves in ways unworthy of respect?

    Thanks to Oscar for pointing out a double standard that many do not recognize or, at least, admit. For example, a blog post this month by an “ordained Christian minister, theologian” stated that “the need for quality honorable mention of women is long overdue.” What does he think is happening today?

    Since there is no way to “like” on these comments, +1000 from me.

  52. Anon says:

    feeriker,

    The ultimate division between humans is between men and the helpmeets that God created for them,

    The race nationalists disagree, which is why any race-centric ideology is really just a goddess cult.

    These are idiots who otherwise ‘get’ red pill concepts, yet still choose to believe that ‘feminism’ is a far less evil force than immigration (never mind that female suffrage is the reason for that too).

  53. sipcode says:

    The ultimate division between humans is between men and the helpmeets that God created for them,

    So true. That is THE battle to those that have faith in the Word. All else is symptoms and diversions; for the helpmeets are the illness. But I read the prophets as saying that God has orchestrated this and He is reining it in and will deal with the helpmeets and that men cannot vex their helpmeets’s previous actions; that is God’s business. That does not mean that men will not challenge women in proper fashion, for God is raising His army of men from the valley of dry bones.

    The new church is pastor-less as we have known it; no paid full time pastor to create his own religion. The church and its elders will be individual men reading the Word for themselves and then sharpening each other to that Word while leading their families. And all the while, God will be truly testing our faith with REAL persecution like much of the church is experiencing worldwide as we speak.

    We need to focus on the kingdom and to do that we need to keep His commandments. And the biggest break in those commandments is at the husband and wife level, the foundation for ALL institutions.

    10 months ago God clearly placed in front of me a word as an analogy on Exekiel Chapters 35-37 where Edom is women and Israel is men, addressing the longstanding antagonism of Edom against Israel, of women against men, the very leaders of the church, which is the bride of Christ. I attached this a couple months ago to this blog so it may be a repeat to some:

    Prophecy
    Women are angry.
    Women have a perpetual hatred.
    Women are envious.
    Women are filthy.
    Women have idols.
    Women boast that they now govern both women and men.
    Women are blasphemous with boasts against men – ‘they are given us to consume.’
    Women boast against God.
    Women keep expanding their boast against God.
    Women kill their own children, the seed of men, at the time of their calamity.
    All these are so obvious to the world that the world rejoices that God’s people have
    become desolate from this.
    God is furious at this, in His jealousy, because this is as shameful as the heathen.

    Women have devoured men.
    Women have bereaved His people of men.
    Women have caused men to bear the shame of the heathen.
    Women have defiled God’s people by doing things their way.
    Women have profaned His holy name.
    Women have slain men.

    But God is for His people.
    He will till us and plant new seed.
    He will rebuild the waste.
    He will make all better than our beginnings.
    He will do this by multiplying men.
    He will cause men to walk on women.
    He will cause men to possess women.
    He will cause men to possess all of His people.

    Then men will stop being ashamed of women acting as the heathen.
    God is not doing this for His people; He is doing this renewal for His sake, for His
    holy name.

    He will sprinkle clean water on women.
    He will take away the heart of stone in women.
    He will give women a heart of flesh.
    He will give women a new spirit.
    He will cause women to walk in His statutes.
    He will cause women to keep His judgments.
    He will cause women to recall their evil ways.
    He will cause women to loathe themselves.
    He will cause women to be ashamed and confounded for their ways.
    God will till the desolate land; He will increase the harvest; He will restore all like the
    Garden of Eden.
    He will restore the waste cities by increasing them with men.
    He will bring flocks of men for His restoration.

    And there is yet a great valley filled with dry bones; many dry bones.
    These bones are those of the devoured men.
    But God will breath upon these bones that have been slain, with His Word, that they
    may live.
    And there will be a noise and a shaking, and the bones will come together, even
    together with the bone of God.
    These bones will stand to their feet as an exceedingly great army.
    And these bones are the whole of the house of God.

    God will then open the graves of all His people.
    Then He will take His people out from the heathen and make them one nation with one
    King, in their own land.
    And they all will know that He has spoken this and that He has performed this.
    And He will make with them a covenant of peace.
    And He will be their God and they will be His people.

  54. “Anon is, of course, completely wrong.

    why any race-centric ideology is really just a goddess cult.

    That’s just a bizarre non-sequitur.

    These are idiots who otherwise ‘get’ red pill concepts, yet still choose to believe that ‘feminism’ is a far less evil force than immigration (never mind that female suffrage is the reason for that too).

    This is just wrong on many levels. The “race realists” are also “sex realists.” The “race realists” understand perfectly well that female suffrage is a major force behind immigration.

    And the “race realists” know that feminism and mass immigration are two sides of the same coin: an attack on White men.

    Feminists ONLY ever attack White men. They never attack non-White men. They love Muslims, who are far more “sexist” than White men. They support mass immigration of “machismo” loving Mestizo men, “homophobic” Africans, and misogynistic Asian men. The ONLY men feminists ever attack are White (and by extension, Christian) men.

    And of course the ONLY people who are ever called “racist” are White people. The entire purpose of mass immigration is to disenfranchise White men so White women will marry non-White men. The feminists/immigrationists are open about this – they don’t even pretend otherwise.

    It’s only the “conservatives” that deny what the left is doing and try to pretend otherwise.

  55. Opus says:

    I never comment on American politics, partly because I have no understanding of the beast and partly because an American Christian always wins – and being a loyal subject of The Queen I have no vote. That however has not prevented me (off-line) from experiencing two, to my mind, strange instances of behaviour:

    1. On Facebook a British Fb ‘friend’ ‘shared’ a joke; a photo of Her Majesty QE2 and Daniel Craig – as Bond – with the bubble – something like – ‘please eliminate Mr Trump, 007’. I did not think it proper to encourage the assassination of politicians and certainly not those of a friendly country – and half Scottish to boot – and so I replied in my temporary sense-of-humour failure by asking what I thought were a couple of very non-inflamatory questions. I received a reply, that evaded my questions but merely indulged in snark. A further reply from me to that went unanswered.

    2. I employed a workman for the purpose of fitting a new window. As he was getting started he suddenly and as it were from nowhere voiced the opinion that both American presidential candidates were second rate and surely a big country like that has better calibre people. I explained that I knew little of American politics. Suddenly, however the conversation – a monologue really as I was being mono-syllabic and non-committal – went from ‘she’s more qualified than anyone, he has been adjudicated bankrupt on four occasions’ to ‘history repeats itself… Europe… Germany… Nazis… ‘ followed by a statement that he, my workman, was a Socialist and to boot, a Democrat!!! (I did not enquire whether his variety of Socialist would be National or Champagne). I merely replied that no one had seen any Nazis since 1945; he replied that they were still around but not always obvious to view – whatever that might mean. I was always taught that in work situations that it is best to avoid talk of both politics and religion and workmen treating their employers to such a diatribe is surely bad manners – and may this time prevent repeat employment from me.

    None of this (the never ending election and mud-slinging) would of course have occurred had you not gone Am-exit in 1776. They said you could not survive alone: do tell me how is it going for you now????

  56. @Opus:

    There’s a joke about my RCC vs Protestant line being useful here…

    I think it’s gone decently. Weather is good, could do with some of the new neighbors.

  57. Christian says:

    “The Utah question may have to be answered with some drone bombing of the NSA Mormon Welfare Server farms, as well as the supplement factories and Multi-level Marketing training camps. If they surrender unconditionally, we may let them go back to Egypt peacefully.”

    We ran off the federal fuckers once. We can do it again.

  58. infowarrior1 says:

    @Lola

    ”Now, I’m on team Trump, in a huge way. But for a hypothetical let’s imagine we…
    Take away Trump’s power and status.
    His selection and choices in said case would be much different. He would no longer be the alpha in his current environment. He’d have to adapt differently to a new environment (where he might, theoretically, become the alpha, but it’s doubtful he would start out that way).”

    https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-43847.html

    Power and status does not a man make. A rich man like him should be acting like Trump yet he acts like a simp.

  59. ayatollah1988 says:

    @Opus

    How’s it going for us now? Well, for starters, our biggest city does NOT have a Muslim mayor, Muhammed is not the most popular baby name in our country, we don’t (at least for now) have gangs of Paki rapists taking turns on our teenage White girls, and our nationalist political candidate who wants to keep America American might actually have a chance of being the president (unlike your brilliant Farage, who’s policies were apparently pearls before swine, as the voters did not elect him).

  60. Lola says:

    “Power and status does not a man make. A rich man like him should be acting like Trump yet he acts like a simp.”
    Even Trump himself (from the tape) would seem to disagree with you.
    He said:
    “And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”

    I don’t know how many rich important people you know, but if you do know any personally they will probably tell you the minute they “made it” (became a celebrity, struck it rich, got the CEO position, whatever) they had never been more attractive to women than in that moment. The self aware ones understand why.

  61. Swanny River says:

    Wow, I thought commenters here would be all over the Wayne Grudem , CBMW founder I think, column today. It was an overwrought piece saying to not vote for Trump because of the tape. I don’t have the link but I think it’s at townhall.com. worldmag.com refers to it but didn’t print it. It’s so bad, so bsd, it has to be read to be believed. Like typical hand wringing Mr. Rogers Christianity, he leaves it at that he doesn’t know who he’ll vote for now. He also weaseled out of his previous endorsement by claiming ignorance about a Stern interview Trump had done. He probably was ignorant of it. Most Christian female commenters were very supportive of the repudiation. Rush Limbaugh missed an easy point today when he was getting upset about dems caring about Trumps Bush interview but not caring about their own Clinton and JFK problems. No duh, they are trying, and succeeding, at making swing voters turn from Trump. The lefties don’t care what Trump said, but they know the prissy Christians do, and they nailed the target with their shot.

  62. Gunner Q says:

    These guys had to go back 11 years to find dirt on Trump?

  63. Oscar says:

    @ Hipster Racist says:
    October 10, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    “Feminists ONLY ever attack White men. They never attack non-White men. They love Muslims, who are far more ‘sexist’ than White men. They support mass immigration of ‘machismo’ loving Mestizo men, ‘homophobic’ Africans, and misogynistic Asian men. The ONLY men feminists ever attack are White (and by extension, Christian) men.”

    False.

    You have no clue how many times SJWs of various races and genders have lectured me – a Central American Immigrant – about white privilege, male privilege, patriarchy, the evils of Capitalism, etc., etc., ad nauseam. I’m a race traitor, donchaknow? Besides, I’m living proof that they’re full of crap, and therefore I must be destroyed.

    See also, Clarence Thomas.

  64. Anon says:

    Hipster racist,

    This is just wrong on many levels. The “race realists” are also “sex realists.”

    No, they aren’t. There are countless examples of race nationalists being total manginas and whiteknights. They even say cuckolding is ok if it produces a white baby.

    Feminists ONLY ever attack White men. They never attack non-White men.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. The only exception is Islam, since they are violent and unapologetic.

    and misogynistic Asian men.

    ….aaaaaand the natural alliance between ‘feminists’ and race nationalists shows up again. Your entire comment was merely just a rationalization of why white women should be excused of everything. And the only reason you think that is because that view takes far less intellectual rigor than a red-pilll anti-misandry view.

    See also : From Bill Price, “White Nationalism is a Goddess Cult.”

  65. @Anon

    “AntiFeministTech” is a troll site – if you are taking them as the common opinion of “race realists” (i.e, the anti-right) then you’re off.

    “lectured me – a Central American Immigrant – about white privilege”

    Then you must be white.

    ” Your entire comment was merely just a rationalization of why white women should be excused of everything”

    No, my comment wasn’t a rationalization of that at all. I now suspect that your “anti-feminism” is really just a hatred of white women – i.e., racism.

    Considering my five year career as an anti-feminist blogger, I’m simply point to my actual work and ignore the sniping from an “anon” with obvious racial hostility.

  66. Boxer says:

    Dear Anon:

    The inane babbling by “Hipster Racist” in this thread will probably amuse you.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/insensitive/

    Regards,

    Boxer

  67. Anon says:

    “AntiFeministTech” is a troll site

    How so? PM/AFT recognizes that misandry is the biggest issue of our time, and that WNs are just manginas for the most part. The links explain why whiteknight nationalists are among the biggest whiteknights and woman-worshippers out there.

    Then you must be white.

    Oscar is not white. But he is married to a blonde white woman, and they have four kids, and have recently adopted a set of 5 Ethiopian siblings. He is a great humanitarian who makes huge personal sacrifices for the disenfranchised.

    I’m simply point to my actual work and ignore the sniping from an “anon” with obvious racial hostility.

    Projection. You are the one who laughably claimed that ‘feminists’ excuse Hispanics, Asians, etc. of everything. You are just desperate to default into a narrative that is a) clearly false, b) requires far less courage, and c) requires vastly less intellectual rigor.

    Remember that it takes considerably more courage and intellectual evolution to realize that misandry is a far worse problem than interracial topics. This is because the human brain of prehistoric times is hardwired to dislike other tribes, but place female well-being above male well-being. WN is just a group of people who are proud that they have not evolved since 100,000 BC.

  68. Just Saying says:

    Trump spoke crudely in describing the way women threw themselves at him.
    He spoke the truth – and that is reason enough to get Liberals up in arms. No one can speak the truth and pop their little bubble of a world.

    I started a band for one reason as I got older – it was the easiest way to get women, and still is. If women don’t like it, the young and attractive ones are the only ones that can stop it – they are the only ones in demand and set the bar for others. So as long as men can get sweet trim by being in a position of power, it really doesn’t matter what all of the non-entity women think, they aren’t the ones selling anything that anyone is buying.

  69. There is a difference between “feminism” the political movement, and “the female imperative” as coined by The Rational Male.

    The Female Imperative – hypergamy, etc., – is universal, among all women of all races and ethnicities.

    “Feminism” is a Western political movement that is aimed squarely at White men. Its purpose is to turn White women away from White men (and vice versa) – which it has failed at spectacularly. The vast majority of white women are only interested in white men – which causes the non-white men who want to fornicate with them such frustration (see, Roosh.)

    Feminism has, however, been extremely successful at postponing marriage and child bearing, and encouraging white women to divorce. Two horrible outcomes.

    He is a great humanitarian who makes huge personal sacrifices for the disenfranchised.

    I am not impressed with self-described “humanitarians.”

    I read “AntiFeministTech” years ago – I was pretty certain it was a troll site – a parody on the “PUA” types. Dalrock is a Christian site about traditional (Christian) marriage – it’s not a “PUA” site.

    So in any case, racist attacks on white people are not particularly impressive to me, and the idea that I should somehow “side” with, say, Muslim men against “white women” because “feminism” is just a non-starter. I don’t really care about Muslims particularly. I have my own people to worry about.

    I was simply responding to a typical racist, anti-white post bearing false witness against people in the alt-right and nationalists.

  70. Anon says:

    Boxer,

    The inane babbling by “Hipster Racist” in this thread will probably amuse you.

    That was funny. How come so many people are obsessed with debating *you* specifically on the esoteric nuances of Marxism and the Frankfurt school?

    Sort of like how when both Angry Harry and Anon Age 72 separately slammed Rob Fedders for claiming that he made useful contributions to the MRM. Both shot him down as a poseur who never contributed anything to the MRM.

  71. Remember that it takes considerably more courage and intellectual evolution to realize that misandry is a far worse problem than interracial topics. This is because the human brain of prehistoric times is hardwired to dislike other tribes, but place female well-being above male well-being. WN is just a group of people who are proud that they have not evolved since 100,000 BC.

    LOL.

    “Misandry” is not a problem for ME, nor “my” people.

    As for your rather humorous notion that white nationalists are “not evolved” I’ll just note that it’s only the “white” nationalists that get insulted. No other race ever gets attack for being nationalists. No one has a problem with Black nationalists, or Japanese nationalists, or Jewish nationalists, or even Mestizo nationalists.

    It’s just “whitey” that gets all the hate.

    Personally, I just chalk it up to jealously. Generally speaking, the immigration goes one way – from non-white countries to white countries. And the fact that white women seem to be the most desirable for men of all races may be related.

    In any case, if you wish to believe that I am “unevolved” and that you are superior to me – please, feel free. You can believe what you wish.

    But just because we both find feminism annoying doesn’t mean that we are “on the same side” or that I should somehow place your interests over the interests of the women in my family/tribe/ethnicity.

    Women aren’t my enemy – I have no desire to “side” with the men of the world against white women – like some sort of “reverse feminism.”

  72. Anon says:

    Hipster Racist,

    I was simply responding to a typical racist,

    The only racist here is you. I suggest you look up the word ‘projection’.

    I read “AntiFeministTech” years ago – I was pretty certain it was a troll site – a parody on the “PUA” types.

    You have yet to explain how it is a ‘troll’ site. It has detailed articles across a wide range of topics.

    The vast majority of white women are only interested in white men –

    If that were true, you would not be so worried about it. Anyway, the Game websites (including Heartiste), have soundly declared that Game is what works on women, and supercedes other handicaps like height, wealth, and race. You are effectively claiming Game will not work if a colored man uses it on a white woman. If you believe that, you are blue-pill.

  73. Anon says:

    No other race ever gets attack for being nationalists. No one has a problem with Black nationalists, or Japanese nationalists, or Jewish nationalists, or even Mestizo nationalists.

    False. All nationalists are stupid.

    ‘Nationalism’ is just protectionism for bottom-rung men who can’t even succeed with women of their own race. That is why nationalism is always a male-heavy ideology. WN in particular is the biggest sausage-fest ever created.

  74. Oh thanks Boxer, I had of course completely forgotten about that exchange from last year. But it’s apparently stuck in your mind.

    Of course, I was right about cultural Marxism, and you were wrong. But I think it’s obvious why you try to downplay their influence.

    But yes – I urge anyone interested to read that old thread. They can judge for themselves.

  75. infowarrior1 says:

    @Lola
    ”I don’t know how many rich important people you know, but if you do know any personally they will probably tell you the minute they “made it” (became a celebrity, struck it rich, got the CEO position, whatever) they had never been more attractive to women than in that moment. The self aware ones understand why.”

    Yet there aren’t women lining up for Mark Zuckerberg who seems to only able to get an ugly Asian. While Donald Trump acts the part a lot of rich men do not.

    Men who still act like simps even if they are rich and powerful end up as ATM’s not Donald Trump.

  76. Opus says:

    It’s true: the Mayor of London is a Muslim of Pakistan parentage, but his losing opponent was – I seem to recall – Jewish. California had a Governor from Austria and the King of England George the Third – the one you hate more than Mr Trump – was a mad German: I am not sure what would be worse. The home-grown variety are no better, but at least they are our scoundrels and no one elses.

    Democracy is a Twentieth century buzzword – a concept previously regarded with horror – and every country claims to be Democratic; yours maybe. Ours, despite the posturing and rhetoric, certainly isn’t. Even our newly mid-term appointed Prime Minister was selected and enthroned without troubling the electorate after just three weeks of internal wrangling between the approx four hundred and fifty Members of Parliament all bearing allegiance to the Government: no debates, no rallies, no billions of dollars being spent or donations thereto being received – just some back-stabbing in the dingy corridors of power. It’s a girl – our second – and so far rather like the first.

    It may be true that Mohammed or some variant of it is the most popular boys name in England, but that is because the Muslims cannot think of and eschew any other name. Were the English to decide en masse to christen all boys with the name – say – Jesus, then Jesus would effortlessly succeed in displacing Mohammed as the most popular name. I think the most common girls name, now, is probably Kylie or Kelly replacing the ubiquitous Sharon and Tracy.

  77. Feminist Hater says:

    There are different races and they are entitled to defend themselves. All throughout history this has been the case. It is an issue that is separated from the likes of which we discuss here but it is not stupid or wholly run by the bottom rung of men. History painfully bears this out..

    Most prefer to stick to their own race and there is nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with despising those who would like to destroy other races.

  78. Lola says:

    “Yet there aren’t women lining up for Mark Zuckerberg who seems to only able to get an ugly Asian. While Donald Trump acts the part a lot of rich men do not.
    Men who still act like simps even if they are rich and powerful end up as ATM’s not Donald Trump.”

    I have already agreed that Trump is an alpha in his environment. There’s no argument there.
    I do not agree that if his money, power, status were taken away tomorrow and he were put into an environment where no one knew who he is he would remain “alpha” by default. This seems patently obvious to the point of absurdity. In fact, it isn’t even necessary to use one’s imagination. Just go back the the nineteen nineties when his interests were hit hard.
    FWIW, I guaran-dam-tee you that women would line up for Mark Zuckerberg. And no, he isn’t alpha. Here is an experiment. Put on a suit and tie and walk for two hours in Manila. Unless you are very hard on the eyes, you will be an alpha there. I used to joke about a ten hours in Manila spoof video back when the one about the ten hours in New York “harassment” video came out. Maybe someone read my handiwork, because it has been done (they aren’t wearing suits though….wear the suits and you won’t last two hours).

  79. Lyn87 says:

    Lola writes,

    “Here is an experiment. Put on a suit and tie and walk for two hours in Manila. Unless you are very hard on the eyes, you will be an alpha there.”

    That’s true. I’ll just copy-and-paste something I wrote a few days ago about living in SW Asia,

    “Anyway, I’m in my mid-50’s, and I was in a mall with a friend of mine about the same age. We’re both retired military officers and in pretty good shape (Westerners tend to be fat, but the rest of the world is rapidly gaining), so a couple of in-shape Western dudes (which also means we make good money in that market) are a hot commodity. Age differences are not a big deal there, and two Arab women young enough to be our daughters tried to pick us up right in the mall. We’re both married so we didn’t let them, but there’s a system for that sort of thing: we can’t be seen talking in public for more than a few moments, so the protocol is that we would have exchanged business cards, then we would call to set up a bang-a-thon at our compound later – preferably with lots of contraband. I should stress that these weren’t poor third-world gold-diggers – these were at least middle-class native women trying to get their freak on with a couple of white dudes who presumably have access to alcohol. They weren’t looking for love – or even a Green Card – they were looking to PAR-TAY. Typically women like that would be available for NSA sex on tap (you won’t be going on dates, but they’ll take a cab right to your door), or as girlfriends if you’re so inclined, or pretty much any arrangement you want (including bringing their friends to join in), and if any particular girl stops pleasing you, getting a new one is as easy as swiping right on Tinder or hanging out in a mall with a pocket full of business cards. Any American who wanted to spin plates could do so all he wanted… what happens on the compounds stays on the compounds (if you get caught doing any of that outside the walls of the Western compounds you’re going to be on the next jet out, though).”

    Even within the SMP, alpha is somewhat situational.

  80. Oscar says:

    @ Hipster Racist says:
    October 10, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    “Then you must be white.”

    Yeah… not quite. Like most Central Americans, I’m a mixture of European and Central American native. Most people can tell I’m not white, but can’t quite decide what I am. When we lived in LA, my mom used to ride the bus, and Filipina ladies would sit next to her and start rattling off in Tagalog. Suffice to say i’m not a blond haired, blue eyed Argentinian.

    You don’t know me, so it’s understandable that you’d hesitate to take my word about my individual experience. That’s just common sense. That’s why I provided the example of Clarence Thomas.

    Everyone knows who Clarence Thomas is, and everyone knows him as a sexual predator, even though he was accused with zero evidence. The Left – including feminists – attempted to destroy him for the same reason they despise me. Clarence Thomas is living proof that the Left – including feminists – are full of crap.

    Furthermore, you can’t apply logic to the Left’s “thinking”. You should know that already.

    SJWs lecture me about poverty, even though I grew up poor and they didn’t.

    SJWs lecture me about immigration, even though I’m an immigrant and they aren’t.

    SJWs lecture me about compassion, even though they’re only “generous” with other people’s money.

    SJWs call me racist, even though I’m a Hispanic man married to a white woman who together adopted five Ethiopian kids.

    Remember, these are the same people who whine about “rape culture”, yet demand we import millions of Muslims for whom raping little boys is culturally acceptable and unveiled women are “uncovered meat”.

    SJWs don’t make sense. There’s no point in trying to make sense of them.

    ALL patriarchal Christian men are under attack. Every single one of us. The source of that attack is ultimately satanic. The Enemy knows that if you attack the head, the body dies. Furthermore, Biblical marriage is a physical picture of a spiritual truth – the relationship between Christ and the Church. It should be obvious why The Enemy wishes to destroy that picture.

    We need to lock shields and point our spears outward, not towards each other.

  81. Anon says:

    Oscar,

    Remember that all race-centric ideologies (like White Nationalism) are left-wing. They believe in protectionism, intra-racial resource sharing, etc. Nazi Germany was left-wing in economic matters.

    Hence, a nationalist-leftist and a multi-culti leftist have a fair number of things in common.

  82. Anon says:

    Lyn87,

    about the ten hours in New York “harassment” video came out.

    Any word on whether the slut in that New York video has a man? I think she is over 30 and still single.

  83. Linx says:

    @ Anon
    “How come so many people are obsessed with debating *you* specifically on the esoteric nuances of Marxism and the Frankfurt school?”

    Do you share his views on the esoteric nuances of Marxism and the Frankfurt school?

  84. Boxer says:

    Dear kooky Linx:

    Do you share his views on the esoteric nuances of Marxism and the Frankfurt school?

    Anon (the real one) is of course a cultural Marxist (whatever that means), as is everyone else who doesn’t share your bizarre, uninformed conspiracy theory.

    Hope this helps,

    Boxer

  85. Boxer says:

    Dear Anon:

    WN in particular is the biggest sausage-fest ever created.

    I know (and respect) some serious WN types. They tend to be mature outliers who can debate with skill and handle alternate viewpoints. With the exception of these few people’s wives/girlfriends, the WN women I see are totally substandard.

    It’d be one thing if white dudes were hanging out with a bunch of Melania Trump type supermodel quality women, but as we both know, they’re not. WN women tend to be fat, ugly, dumpy, drug-addled and unintelligent chicks with bad attitudes. WN men think that they’ll get laid if they pedestalize these unworthy women hard enough. It’s sorta sad. Most (not all) of the men with Stormfront type attitude are the white equivalent of ghetto thugs, which makes all their race based denunciations of blacks sorta funny, in context.

    Whatever differences I might have with Black Pill, he nails this in several articles over on Omega Virgin Revolt.

    Best,

    Boxer

  86. Feminist Hater says:

    Remember that all race-centric ideologies (like White Nationalism) are left-wing. They believe in protectionism, intra-racial resource sharing, etc. Nazi Germany was left-wing in economic matters.

    This is dumb. It is called being loyal. You help your own first. God calls for it. It’s not racist or wrong to help your ethnicity or racial group, no other group is responsible for you and yours. It is entirely rational to be both a capitalist and a nationalist by respecting ones own group and laws before pure profit but still seek to make a living. When someone attacks your culture, your land, or sovereignty, you defend yourself, this is the entire basis of “Self Defense” and it also extends to countries and the people who inhabit them.

    Nazi Germany is but one ideology, it mixed a bunch of ideological thoughts and couldn’t be bound in either pure left or right leaning. There are countless more nationalistic ideologies that were not left leaning, nor did they worship the Goddess cult.

    You must really hate that some people don’t go for whole multi-whore-cult but be that as it may, there is nothing wrong with being a nationalist and believing in separation of the races.

  87. Feminist Hater says:

    ‘Nationalism’ is just protectionism for bottom-rung men who can’t even succeed with women of their own race. That is why nationalism is always a male-heavy ideology. WN in particular is the biggest sausage-fest ever created.

    No, sorry. Nationalism is purely the idea of protecting and preserving the culture, language and genetic legacy of a group of people who share a common heritage. You are talking about modern day White Nationalism which is entirely different from all previous forms of Nationalists who sought to protect their own borders and state from foreign enemies.

    Why should whites just lie down and take it? Because you say so? No, how about whites have the same rights as every other race on this planet and that right is to defend themselves from all enemies who invade their lands and the traitors who enable them.

  88. Linx says:

    @Boxer
    “Dear kooky Linx:
    Do you share his views on the esoteric nuances of Marxism and the Frankfurt school?
    Anon (the real one) is of course a cultural Marxist (whatever that means), as is everyone else who doesn’t share your bizarre, uninformed conspiracy theory.
    Hope this helps,”

    Hi Boxer.
    How is my favourite bonobo wannabe doing? I see you are still throwing your mental scat at those who do not share your moral relativistic new atheist views. Still haven’t developed the mental fortitude to take your beliefs to it logical conclusion have you.
    Anyhow. Why do you feel the need to reply to my question to Anon and why is your reply only about Marxism?
    Also note. You started talking to me, so don’t start whining again like a liberal about how I invaded your save space and interrupted your conversation with questions on statements you made.

  89. PuffyJacket says:

    What’s noteworthy about this election cycle is the sheer magnitude and ugliness of allegations of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, etc. against Trump. There can be literally no Republican policy discussion had in good faith, as everything must devolve into how this or that policy is actually “racist” (or cue nonsense micro-aggression here). Never mind if the policy works or is actually needed.

    Cutting gov’t spending = racism. Building the “wall” = racism. Cutting taxes = racism. Trimming regulations = racism. Renegotiating trade agreements = racism. Ending affirmative action (which is objectively racist, mind you) = racism. White men have “privileges” that can be taken away, but other groups have “rights” and you are racist if you disagree. That 60ish percent of whites vote Trump is somehow clear evidence of white nationalist backlash, but that 90% of blacks vote Democrat is not. The racist projection on the part of SJWs is mind-staggering.

    This isn’t new, but the intensity is like nothing I’ve seen. And Cuckservatives bite hard on the narrative each time they join the chorus of lefties denouncing Trump for alleged “misogyny” 10+ years ago, demonstrating precisely why the average Republican voter now views their party elite as a total joke (indeed why he was nominated in the first place).

    The SJW hysteria (and corresponding failure by Cucksersatives to address it) goes a long way in explaining why Trump was ultimately chosen. Democratic change is nearly impossible in this environment, so the next best thing is to send in Trump as a means of trolling the establishment hard.

    That said, it does not ultimately matter whether Trump gets elected. Our problems are far, far more deep-seated.

  90. Anon says:

    Linx,

    Do you share his views on the esoteric nuances of Marxism and the Frankfurt school?

    I would not be interested in that subject if I lived to be 1000 years old.

    Of course, I suspect that answer bothers you the most, since you can’t abide with someone being disinterested in such an obscure and boring subject.

  91. Anon says:

    Boxer,

    I know (and respect) some serious WN types. They tend to be mature outliers who can debate with skill and handle alternate viewpoints.

    Yes, they exist, but are very rare (and certainly are not in this ‘sphere).

    The rest are full manginas. What is telling is that they have been exposed to red-pill subjects, and agree with them in principle, but STILL act as total mangina goddess worshippers, just because it is easier for their obsolete brains to accept. Human hardwiring from prehistoric times was built to find other tribes offensive yet women as priceless, and WNs revel in displaying how little they have evolved from 100,000 BC.

    To be unevolved is bad enough. To be proud of it is even worse. Blue-haired fembeasts and WN manginas are both examples of thought processes that are very far behind in evolutionary terms.

  92. Anon says:

    Boxer,

    Most (not all) of the men with Stormfront type attitude are the white equivalent of ghetto thugs, which makes all their race based denunciations of blacks sorta funny, in context.

    Which is why modern-day WNs have much more in common with BLM blacks than with successful whites. When one has nothing in common with successful people other than shared ancestry from Europe, one will obviously want intra-ethnic loyalty to be paramount.

    Whites are successful precisely because they do a better job of keeping their extremist dregs marginalized. Other groups don’t keep their nationalists in a low-status position nearly as well. Whites are successful precisely for the same reason that WN does not gain much traction beyond 10% of whites. This paradox is a mystery to WNs.

  93. Ray Manta says:

    Hipster Racist wrote:
    “Misandry” is not a problem for ME, nor “my” people.

    Yes it is. The biological tendency to favor women over men is part of the human condition.

    Generally speaking, the immigration goes one way – from non-white countries to white countries

    I do not see a lot of immigration into most Eastern Europe countries.

    “Feminism” is a Western political movement that is aimed squarely at White men

    Nope, feminism is hard-wired into all women of all races and is tied in with human mating patterns (men stay with their families, women disperse). As a result, women developed the ability to network with unrelated females to maximize resource extraction from men. This is tolerable in tribal societies but is a disaster for advanced, wealthy societies.

    Its purpose is to turn White women away from White men (and vice versa) – which it has failed at spectacularly.

    So are you saying that it’s a non-problem? You seem obsessed with white women mating with non-white men.

    The vast majority of white women are only interested in white men
    – which causes the non-white men who want to fornicate with them such frustration (see, Roosh.)

    Roosh is of Iranian descent. Iranian stock is primarily Caucasian. The entymology of the name “Iran” itself shows it’s related to “Aryan”.

    Women aren’t my enemy

    Even though female suffrage inevitably leads to bloated government, misallocation of economic resources, and women voting themselves progressively more privileges at male expense?

  94. Ray Manta says:

    Boxer wrote:
    It’d be one thing if white dudes were hanging out with a bunch of Melania Trump type supermodel quality women, but as we both know, they’re not. WN women tend to be fat, ugly, dumpy, drug-addled and unintelligent chicks with bad attitudes

    PMAFT’s site has some quotes from a woman on AlternativeRight slamming Scott Locklin for his praise of foreign women. If they can attract better than a mentally unstable, postmenopausal harridan like that I’d like to see it.

  95. Anon says:

    Ray Manta,

    PMAFT’s site has some quotes from a woman on AlternativeRight slamming Scott Locklin for his praise of foreign women. If they can attract better than a mentally unstable, postmenopausal harridan like that I’d like to see it.

    They can’t. WN is an ideology that is 98% male (and 2% uggo), despite being entirely dependent on white women producing a lot of babies. It is the purest sausage-fest ever.

    For WN ideas to work, their first and only goal should be to repeal female suffrage. From there, every other goal they desire will flow naturally. But since they don’t do that (they are more likely to wish for female-ONLY suffrage, since they are manginas), their movement goes nowhere.

    The greatest horror for a WN is to remind them that most white women have no race loyalty at all. If they did, there would be no immigration (let alone white women seeking out Muslim lovers in droves).

  96. @Ray Manta

    Yes it is. The biological tendency to favor women over men is part of the human condition.

    No, misandry is not the “biological tendency to favor women over men.” Misandry is a hatred of men. That’s not a problem for me and my people. Oh sure – feminism is a pain. It’s done serious damage to the family, in the specific two ways I mentioned above. Of course there are some women who hate men and some men who hate women. While I generally subscribe to “manosphere” ideas about women (the “female imperative” per Rollo) and feminism, the ideology – I’ve never had a problem with misandry. Good old fashioned Pauline marriage would fix both problems, the female imperative and feminism.

    I do not see a lot of immigration into most Eastern Europe countries.

    And … so what? Immigration goes from non-white countries to white countries. That Eastern Europe is a temporary exception, due to them still recovering from communism, doesn’t change that.

    Nope, feminism is hard-wired into all women of all races and is tied in with human mating patterns (men stay with their families, women disperse).

    Nope – that’s not “feminism.” That is (a simplistic explanation of) the “female imperative.” I already pointed that out earlier.

    You seem obsessed with white women mating with non-white men.

    No – I don’t “seem” like that, nor am I. It’s typical of anti-whites – whether leftists, liberals, or conservatives, to attack white men as somehow “anxious” about miscegenation. I’m not particularly worried about it. You can check my blogs and see it’s simply not something I’m particularly concerned about. It is interesting, however, that anti-whites ARE absolutely obsessed with white women, miscegenation, etc.

    Roosh is of Iranian descent. Iranian stock is primarily Caucasian. The entymology of the name “Iran” itself shows it’s related to “Aryan”.

    Yes, he is, and yes, Persians are Caucasians, just like Arabs. Generally speaking, “White” refers to European Caucasian people, of Christian cultural background. If you don’t like the term “white” then suggest another. I’m not particularly tied to it.

    Even though female suffrage inevitably leads to bloated government, misallocation of economic resources, and women voting themselves progressively more privileges at male expense?

    Yep – even though all that, women still aren’t my enemy. Frankly, I could do without democracy in general, and I’ve written many articles about why women shouldn’t vote.

    Anon’s and Boxer’s rather humorous (and self-revealing) attacks on their “WN” strawman is amusing. They are free to pretend to believe what they wish. The “WN” I know of tend to me married, with children – Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer, etc. RamZPaul isn’t a handsome man, but his son is handsome and his daughter is beautiful, so he seems to have done ok.

    I’m willing to let Boxer and Anon take the “women suck” side of things. I just think men and women are different. I don’t expect women to be “loyal” – that’s a man’s job. I don’t expect women to follow some code – they have “gypsy souls” and Mencken would say. That’s part of their charm.

    Since most of the racially conscious white men I know are married/coupled with white women and most have white children, I’ll let the peanut gallery fantasize about the “sausage fest.” I thought people realized that “ideologies” and “politics” tend to be a guy thing, but when the Usual Suspects are out to attack white people, any excuse will do.

  97. Anon says

    For WN ideas to work, their first and only goal should be to repeal female suffrage.

    Thankfully, WNs aren’t really interested in taking advice from people who clearly hate them.

    It’s funny, according to the data from the dating sites, white women are the most “racist” of all demographics, and white men are the second most “racist” – they tend to prefer to date their own.

    I realize that drives some people crazy.

    let alone white women seeking out Muslim lovers in droves

    Don’t let me interfere with the Muslim version of a “Mandingo fantasy” but that’s wishful thinking on his part. It drives him nuts that white women are so “racist” and prefer men of their own tribe. That hypergamy and all.

  98. Boxer says:

    Hipster Racist strikes his own straw-man down, again.

    I’m willing to let Boxer and Anon take the “women suck” side of things. I just think men and women are different. I don’t expect women to be “loyal” – that’s a man’s job. I don’t expect women to follow some code – they have “gypsy souls” and Mencken would say. That’s part of their charm.

    I don’t think women suck, and in fact I often get heat here for pointing these basic truths out. But dealing with your constant logical fallacies are boring. I got something much better for the Dalrock community…

    Venture over to my blog, where you will find a photo of Hipster Racist, Linx, and their two most loyal white goddesses, deep in the s00per s33krit WN dungeon, yo!

    https://v5k2c2.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/white-nationalists-are-mostly-losers/

    Follow the link at the bottom to a more cogent deconstruction. This rabbit hole goes down a ways.

    Best,

    Boxer

  99. Anon says:

    Hipster Racist,

    It’s funny, according to the data from the dating sites, white women are the most “racist” of all demographics, and white men are the second most “racist” – they tend to prefer to date their own.

    Anyone with real-world experience will confirm that this is not the case at all. On this thread alone, we have several brown men who have been married to white women for 25-30 years.

    Study after study has confirmed this as well.

    Plus, why would you be so interesting in ensuring that white *men* don’t date outside. WN has always had homo undertones, but this is too much.

    About Roosh, Heartiste has ruled that Roosh is white (his complexion is light). You aren’t even keeping up with your own subject matter and leaders. Plus, Roosh has written many books on how to score with white women. If you read them, even you will learn how. So what is you had to learn from a Persian man?

    I don’t expect women to be “loyal” – that’s a man’s job.

    Thanks for confirming that WN is a goddess cult. PM/AFT and Bill Price have explained why, in the links above (that you are too afraid to see).

    I repeat :

    For WN ideas to work, their first and only goal should be to repeal female suffrage.

    If you don’t understand this, you are laughably clueless. Anyway, this video will educate you about why white women simply are not interested in WN :

  100. Anon says:

    Boxer,

    You are generous. What really sets the WN Omegas off is links like this :

    A Dutch supermodel, her husband, and two children.

    Or this :

    http://www.tribute.ca/news/?attachment_id=1221

    Plus, no one here thinks women suck. It is just another WN projection that they can barely contain (i.e. anyone who is not an extreme goddess-cult mangina thinks women suck).

  101. Anyone with real-world experience will confirm that this is not the case at all.

    The plural of anecdote is not “data.” Sorry.

    Thanks for confirming that WN is a goddess cult.

    I didn’t confirm any such thing. Your allegation of a “goddess cult” is just a bizarre non-sequitur. I’ve also already seen the video. I mean, I’ve been a “manosphere” blogger for five years – I’ve gotten 20k hits a day. I’m familiar with the whole “movement.”

    You and Boxer clearly have a problem with white people. It’s important for both of you to attack white men, particularly – in Boxer’s case, he actually uses SJW/feminist “shaming language.”

    I’m certainly not interested in changing your minds. If you two represent the future of anti-whites, we’re sitting pretty.

  102. Anon says:

    You and Boxer clearly have a problem with white people.

    Nope. It is white people that hate you. White Americans are just not as racist as you wish they were. Try as you might, you will not be able to make then as racist as you want them to be.

    Remember that when you have nothing in common with successful people other than centuries-old ancestry in Europe, you are obviously going to want race identity to be the be-all and end-all of everything. But for you to take credit for the success of successful whites is no different than some pygmy in the Congo taking credit for the athletic prowess of Michael Jordan or Usain Bolt.

    Heh heh heh heh

  103. Boxer says:

    You and Boxer clearly have a problem with white people.

    I’m 100% sure I’m far whiter than you are, dopey. I just don’t make it the obsessive focus of my daily life. Like many outspoken white nationalists, I suspect you have a Jewish grandparent or three. Anyone who wants a laugh should look up photographs of guys like Tom Metzger and Matt Hale for examples of this. These types often try to mask their self hatred with overcompensation, which makes them incredibly boring people to interact with. They can’t really discuss anything without it devolving into some racial diatribe that no normal person is really interested in.

    I support white nationalists (and black nationalists) who honor their heritage by becoming successful, well rounded people, who are good citizens and good neighbors, who make lots of money and enjoy the good life. All this kvetching and moaning gets in the way of that.

    I mean, I’ve been a “manosphere” blogger for five years – I’ve gotten 20k hits a day. I’m familiar with the whole “movement.”

    We know. You’re a genius. Better fire up your webcam and do some more youtube videos.

    Boxer

  104. I’m 100% sure I’m far whiter than you are, dopey…. I suspect you have a Jewish grandparent or three.

    Way to fit the stereotype there, Boxer 🙂 Glad you are making your agenda more clear. Your touchiness about cultural Marxism already gave the game away though.

    Why did you change your avatar from Groucho Marx to the Milo Frog? Posing as “alt right” now? I guess if Milo can be “alt right” so can you.

    Look – I’m just a white guy. Perhaps you have bedded far more women than I have. Maybe you are an alpha stud, and I’m a lowly beta/omega or whatever.

    But, you know, it’s your tribe that doesn’t consider themselves “white” and has all that anti-white hostility. Hey – if I was an Ashkenazi who lost my religion, I’d probably be in the same boat as you. But it’s you – not me – that is obsessed with “WNs” and white women and miscegenation and the like.

    Hey – I’m a Zionist too! I believe in nationalism for everybody.

    Now, feel free to have the last word – I’m sure Dalrock is tired of this exchange. But I’ve said my peace. Thanks for playing.

  105. Anon says:

    Hipsteracist,

    I mean, I’ve been a “manosphere” blogger for five years – I’ve gotten 20k hits a day.

    And yet, you are not on the blogrolls of any major blog (including this one), and no one really cites your articles or mentions you as a thought leader. You seem to have gotten only 1450 comments (including yours) in 5 years. Virtually none from white women.

    After so much effort, to have so little traction……. sort of like the WN cause itself. Oh, the irony!!

    Heh heh heh heh

  106. Linx says:

    @Anon
    “I would not be interested in that subject if I lived to be 1000 years old.”

    That is a long time to want to stay ignorant of something that is so interested in you.

    “Of course, I suspect that answer bothers you the most, since you can’t abide with someone being disinterested in such an obscure and boring subject.”

    Well you would be wrong in your assumption. All I did was ask if you shared in his views not to explain it.

  107. infowarrior1 says:

    @Lola
    ”FWIW, I guaran-dam-tee you that women would line up for Mark Zuckerberg. And no, he isn’t alpha. ”

    Net worth Increase US $55.3 billion (October 2016)[3]
    Title Chairman and CEO of Facebook

    I don’t see women lining up for him.

    Also pertinent post:
    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/money-wont-save-beta-males/

    Rich high status yet unattractive men in silicon valley only good for ATM.

  108. Avraham rosenblum says:

    Nationalism has some support from Hegel. The trouble is that there tends to be a lot of problems with Hegel, most of which are when he ventures into subject he knows little about like science. But his main system seems sound enough. So the question is if his idea of nationalism is a result of his main system or is it one of those areas where he was not being very thorough?

  109. Avraham rosenblum says:

    I go more with the Kant Fries school–a kind of modification of Kant based on Fries for how we know stuff and it Schopenhauer for other stuff. But still I want to relay what I think Hegel was getting at. It comes from his roommate. Hi roommate wanted to combine the to Kantian things the Concept and the Intuition into the Idea. While Hegel did not accept that he did think there was a bridge between the way things are and they way things ought to be and that is the State.

  110. Avraham rosenblum says:

    It seems to me likely that Herzl was influenced by Hegel since Hegel was the prime philosopher in Germany for a good long time before Herzl arrived on the scene to write his book on forming a Jewish State

  111. Ray Manta says:

    Hipster Racist wrote:
    No, misandry is not the “biological tendency to favor women over men.”

    It stems from it and is enabled by it. If you’ve ever read feminist works by Robin Morgan or Betty Friedan, it’s hard to conclude anything more than that they hate men.

    Misandry is a hatred of men.

    The family court systems reek of misandry. So do the star chamber proceedings of current college campuses. They’re driven by hatred of men – misandry.

    That’s not a problem for me and my people.

    You’re dreaming. It’s the problem for “your” people. BTW, women lack an innate loyalty to the tribe.

    Good old fashioned Pauline marriage would fix both problems, the female imperative and feminism.

    Pauline marriage requires women to be under the thumb of the husband. How would you invoke your male authority if your wife could run screaming to the nearest women’s group (or the police) at the drop of a hat?

    Immigration goes from non-white countries to white countries

    .Either they’re going to close their borders or be overwhelmed by the refugees. It has to be one or the other. Just remember is was an old, childless, white woman who opened the floodgates in the first place.

    That Eestern Europe is a temporary exception, due to them still recovering from communism, doesn’t change that

    Just noting that it’s in an awfully large temporary exception. .

    No – I don’t “seem” like that, nor am I. It’s typical of anti-whites – whether leftists, liberals, or conservatives, to attack white men as somehow “anxious” about miscegenation. I’m not particularly worried about it. You can check my blogs and see it’s simply not something I’m particularly concerned about. It is interesting, however, that anti-whites ARE absolutely obsessed with white women, miscegenation, etc

    All I’ve done so far is scroll through your posts here and noted that you raised the issue yourself about miscegenation. My impression so far is yes, it is important to you.

    Generally speaking, “White” refers to European Caucasian people, of Christian cultural background.

    It’s a very heterogeneous group, with a long history of squabbling. So is your plan to lump them together?

    RamZPaul isn’t a handsome man, but his son is handsome and his daughter is beautiful, so he seems to have done ok.>/em>

    http://www.ramzpaul.com/2016/04/white-nationalism-is-cult.html

    RamZPaul at least doesn’t appear to be on board with white nationalism, so you should be careful about who you name drop.

    I’m willing to let Boxer and Anon take the “women suck” side of things. I just think men and women are different. I don’t expect women to be “loyal” – that’s a man’s job. I don’t expect women to follow some code – they have “gypsy souls” and Mencken would say. That’s part of their charm.

    “Gypsy souls” and “charm” have no place among people with the unilateral legal and social clout to ruin your life.

    Since most of the racially conscious white men I know are married/coupled with white women and most have white children,

    They don’t appear to have that much of an online presence though. If I google on white nationalism I get morons like Angelo John Gage. He’s the one who put up a whiny video where he demanded that white men run over to Europe and save “our” women from being raped. .

  112. Hippopotamusdrome says:

    @Anon October 11, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    You are generous. What really sets the WN Omegas off is links like this :

    A Dutch supermodel, her husband, and two children.

    Answer:

    Do Women Value Ethnicity Over Income in a Mate?
    … Imagine the following experiment. A woman can choose between communicating with two men. One earns $60,000 a year and is the same race as her. The other earns X dollars per year and is one of three different races than her. … What would X have to be in order to make a woman prefer the man in the other ethnic group?

    The results are striking. An African-American man would have to earn $154,000 more than a white man in order for a white woman to prefer him. A Hispanic man would need to earn $77,000 more than a white man, and Asian man would need, remarkably, an additional $247,000 in additional annual income.

  113. Boxer says:

    Dear Hipster Racist:

    Please see inside text…

    But, you know, it’s your tribe that doesn’t consider themselves “white” and has all that anti-white hostility. Hey – if I was an Ashkenazi who lost my religion, I’d probably be in the same boat as you. But it’s you – not me – that is obsessed with “WNs” and white women and miscegenation and the like.

    Hey – I’m a Zionist too! I believe in nationalism for everybody.

    I guess the Chief Rabbi of Dalrock blog has converted me to Judaism. My bishop will be impressed.

    Now, feel free to have the last word – I’m sure Dalrock is tired of this exchange. But I’ve said my peace. Thanks for playing.

    I have no doubt everyone is bored with your constant eruptions about the fallibility of white chicks, the evils of Judaism, etc.?

    Maybe you should vomit up this nonsense on your own blog (that has millions of hits per hour, despite the fact that none of us have ever heard of it) and leave normal folks alone in these other backwaters, to strategize against feminism.

    Regards,

    Boxer

  114. Boxer says:

    Dear Hippopotamusdrome:

    Strangely, this can be steered sorta back on topic…

    The results are striking. An African-American man would have to earn $154,000 more than a white man in order for a white woman to prefer him. A Hispanic man would need to earn $77,000 more than a white man, and Asian man would need, remarkably, an additional $247,000 in additional annual income.

    I have no doubt that this is true. Someone should fund a study of mate preferences, and I’d guess that our impulses in that regard are largely unconscious.

    Boxer

  115. Avraham rosenblum says:

    I think Nationalism in the Hegelian sense makes some degree of sense. But he was thinking of it as a synthesis between what is and what ought to be.–in striving for a higher aspect of life. But while he was thinking in terms of Germany and i think more in terms of Israel still I think the idea can be applied to what was once Christendom. That is a general European Christian Identity. And I think this would apply in the USA also. That is I think of Christendom as a kind of organic natural whole, not as separate nations.

  116. Darkheart says:

    For my money, there is absolutely nothing funnier than anti-fems fantasizing about the day that black men and white men link arms to take down white women.

    Never. Gonna. Happen. And best of luck trying to convince white men that white women were behind the latest riot or polar bear raid. It’s a little unbelievable that you people would sit and be lectured by those who hate you and wish to see you destroyed, but I guess the real trads died with Auster. Alas.

    This is the reason that, in general, anti-fems and cucks are not to be trusted. You come with your own agenda, but the only agenda that matters is whether you’re for the West or against it. I hope such geldings live to see the day when your skin color is your uniform.

  117. Anon says:

    Darkheart (shouldn’t you be ‘whiteheart’?),

    but I guess the real trads died with Auster.

    Auster was a total pedestalizing whiteknight. Then again, that is why WNs like him so much.

    This is the reason that, in general, anti-fems and cucks are not to be trusted.

    Pure projection. It is WNs that are the cucks. They say cuckolding is ok if it produces a white baby. Such cucks are no friends of white men. It is anti-fems who are the only ones fighting against paternity fraud.

    Bill Price : “White Nationalism is a goddess cult.”

  118. Isa says:

    @Boxer the strong preference against Asian males is quite striking. I would expect that of Indians, but not for Koreans, Japanese, etc. Then again, most women with half a brain know that Asian families expect their sons to marry a woman of the same ethnicity, occasionally one they picked out. Very tough for Asian men in the west as their women are prefered by every other race…

    I have remembered a few studies I have read, and they don’t like to come to many more conclusions than that women prefer darker complexions compared to their own and men lighter (secondary sex characteristic to begin with). Beyond that, unique eye or hair combinations were prefered by men, but neutral for women. The strongest correlation was blonde men highly preferring blonde women, but not the other way around. Again, a genetics issue.

    Biologically we are programmed to find people like ourselves and our parents attractive, but not want to mate with those too closely related as you then lack the necessary antigens to immobilize a woman’s immune system during pregnancy. I would say almost all of the preference can be explained through biology with a smattering of who a person grew up around, i.e. adopted children tend to be attracted to the race of their family and community, not their own.

  119. Anon says:

    Isa,

    I would expect that of Indians,

    Not really. There are plenty of pretty white female celebrities who married an Indian man considerably less famous than them. Given that Indians are only 1-2% of the population of the West, that is striking.

    Elizabeth Hurley
    Christina Hendricks
    Sarah McLachlan
    Fran Drescher
    Kelli Williams (well known TV actress)

    Plus, Dinesh D’Souza was engaged to both Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham (back in the 80s when they were young), until marrying another pretty blonde, Dixie Brubaker. Since neither Coulter nor Ingraham ever married or had biological kids after that, it is safe to say that Dinesh made them alpha widows.

    No other group, and certainly not East Asians, can say the same.

  120. Isa says:

    @anon Interesting. Perhaps they are more masculine / white looking? Many say East Asians look very feminine so could be that… or height perhaps.

    Also, wasn’t Fran Drescher’s husband gay? And that does explain why I have always found the last two women grating, no luck in love leading to bitterness.

  121. Oscar says:

    @ Anon says:
    October 15, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    “Since neither Coulter nor Ingraham ever married or had biological kids after that, it is safe to say that Dinesh made them alpha widows.”

    As much as I enjoy listening to Ann Coulter and reading her articles and books, I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be married to her.

  122. Anon says:

    Isa,

    Interesting. Perhaps they are more masculine / white looking? Many say East Asians look very feminine so could be that… or height perhaps.

    From what I have seen about Indians, they are very bimodal. 90% are complete beta nerds, while there are a top few that are truly at the top. So a lot of outliers.

    Oscar,

    As much as I enjoy listening to Ann Coulter and reading her articles and books, I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be married to her.

    Perhaps that is why they broke up, and Dinesh married a woman who is not a professional political commentator. Ann Coulter was pretty in her youth, though.

    But he and Laura Ingraham broke off their engagement as well. She still fights hard for him when the Obama Administration is persecuting him.

  123. Oscar says:

    @ Anon

    “Perhaps that is why they broke up, and Dinesh married a woman who is not a professional political commentator. Ann Coulter was pretty in her youth, though.”

    It’s not her looks. She’s a contentious woman. That makes her a good political ally, and her wit makes her fun to listen to and read (if you agree with her on most points), but her contentiousness disqualifies her as marriage material. Which is fine. Not everyone has to be.

  124. Anon says:

    Oscar,

    Perhaps, but if the husband is also part of the conservative industry, selling media, the ‘power couple’ dynamic and associated economies of scale may be compelling..

    But yeah, she never married anyone ever, and Dinesh later got engaged to and broke up with Laura Ingraham (less contentious, but similar) too, to later settle with a pretty housewife from a rich family. Now their daughter is an author too.

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