The Daily Mail sees the irony.

I’ve written a fair amount about the similarity between Traditional Conservatives and Feminists.  However, one defining characteristic of the Trad Con is their stone cold humorlessness when it comes to delivering the “weak men are screwing feminism up” message.  To Trad Cons there is absolutely no irony in this message, just a sense of disgust and outrage that weak men are standing in the way of achieving glorious feminist progress.  This humorlessness is a byproduct of their great skill at denying reality.  On the other end of the spectrum we have the Daily Mail, which makes a sport out of trolling its readers on the topic.

Most recently the Daily Mail asked: Are reluctant men to blame for so many women being childless? Throughout the article the Mail author juxtaposes claims that men are to blame with statements by childless women explaining that they were too picky, too feminist, or dumped/drove away their best prospects. After explaining the increase in almost entirely unwanted childlessness in women, the Mail article gets down to the hilarious business of trolling their readers (emphasis mine):

Melanie Whitehouse is certainly one of these women. And she is clear about the cause of her childlessness: men.

Or rather, the lack of men who were willing to settle down and start a family with her. The heartbreaking realisation that she was never going to have a baby struck late – in her 50s, while at a reunion lunch with her first boyfriend, whom she had dumped on a whim.

‘I hadn’t grieved for the children who might have been until then. I realised with painful clarity what I’d lost,’ she says. ‘Tom had been happily married for 25 years and had three kids, while I had nobody.’

After dumping the boring loyal dude, Melanie spent her most fertile years having sex with cads.  Just before she turned 30, she started an affair with a married man named Duncan.  This affair would become the defining milestone of her sexual career:

‘I always thinks of my life as BD and AD – Before Duncan and After Duncan. He changed everything.

After ten more years of the alpha carousel, Melanie decided that at 39 it was finally time to switch to beta bucks:

As her desperation increased, and the chances of her having a child began to tumble, Melanie took drastic action.

‘Aged 39, I went out with a tall, bald accountant. He was younger than me and obviously uncommitted, but I was determined to somehow make it work.

But she failed to stick the landing in the AF/BB strategy, by driving her beta bucks man away before she could pull off an “oops” pregnancy:

‘I’d shelved my dream of the perfect marriage by now and I took risks with contraception. I was quite prepared to bring a baby up alone if I had to. I remember getting so angry at his lack of regard for me that I had a huge row with him – and he dumped me.’

Other women blame men for not making their own unrealistic feminist expectations come true.  Genevieve hilariously complains:

It was as if the men’s thinking hadn’t caught up with what women were told to expect from life. And I wasn’t prepared to accept this.

The comments to the article are quite interesting, as most of the recent comments could well have come from the manosphere.  Yet one of the commenters is a 34 year old woman who explains that Not All Childless Women Are Like That.  She is disturbed by the callous unfairness of a system which would make her marry and have children with a man she has contempt for before pulling the divorce/child support ripcord:

I’m 34, single and childless and its unfair to put myself and others in a similar situation in the same light based on the stories and views of just 3 women. Society has changed but simple bad luck has to be taken into account. The chances of meeting the right guy, at the right age and being financially secure to have a family are slim. Who wants to settle for someone who isnt quite right, have a child then split up a few years later? I’d rather be alone than in a miserable marriage that inevitably ends leaving two divorced parents and a child from a broken marriage.

 

*H/T Anon

 

 

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103 Responses to The Daily Mail sees the irony.

  1. enrique says:

    This looks like the blueprint for a Rollo post, for realz. Too funny.

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  3.      The chances of meeting the right guy, at the right age and being financially secure to have a family are slim.

    Here you have the problem in a nutshell – and it’s the opposite of what the speaker believes. But that’s hardly unique.

  4. enrique says:

    “It was as if the men’s thinking hadn’t caught up with what women were told to expect from life. And I wasn’t prepared to accept this.”

    Correction: It was as if men’s thinking had zoomed right by me on a yacht, full of pretty girls, unaware of what WE had been telling OURSELVES. I wasn’t prepared to accept that the men didn’t care about me or my special snowflakery and self-importance, but instead cared about themselves.

  5. Is This Thing On? says:

    I think I mentioned this article in one of his blog posts. Perhaps I didn’t get around to it. I don’t remember. It would be good to see his take on it. He could have wrote the damn thing if he was into satire.

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  7. DeNihilist says:

    So chickens really do come home to roost then?!

  8. DeNihilist says:

    I think it is time for that old (was she greek?) lady to make an appearance and smack some of these broads upside the head.

  9. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Well, Dalrock, I slogged thru all the comments on that DM article. There’s nothing new there. We’ve been discussing this amongst ourselves for years. Yep, those feminists are plain looking, no doubt about it. Kinda funny, they’ve lost the genetic lottery. They’re failures. What’s worse, they realize that feminism is childless. By design.

    So, a christian man is supposed to support such foolishness? That’s not in any part of the Bible that I’ve read. Really, the Word exhorts us to count the cost, consider our steps wisely, and be prepared to be hated if we don’t follow after the crowd.

    Nowadays, counseling a young man to marry is borderline abuse of biblical authority. Given the disaster that modern day marriage has proven to be, such counsel is abuse of the male members of the flock. Feminism is an age old apostasy. Since the days of Eve.

    Young men of a sound mind will never marry a feminist apostate. And those “pastors” who counsel such marriage are actually ravenous wolves.

  10. Spawny Get says:

    It is our fault. As controversial as this statement of fact may be.

    It’s not your fault, women. It’s ours. We just don’t find the prospect of marrying you attractive.

  11. Easttexasfatboy says:

    One of the things about being a man is this……we hate being made a fool. Seriously. It’s basic knowledge that American women are feminists. Like some advice I was given long ago……”Leave crazy women alone. That’s just not for a good man to fool with. Crazy will turn on you, and destroy everything you have.” That’s plainly put. Some women, and if you judge their appearance in the article, are just bat crazy.

    It’s for the best that such women are barren by choice. There’s no need to inflict another generation with those failed feminist traits. Medical facts are clear…..if a woman wants children, best get started by 22-23 years of age. If she’s fertile, there ya go! But, feminists are, quite simply ugly inside. Not good mother material. Lots of evidence to support that claim.

    As for pastoral apostates who want men to wife up a feminist slut……..that’s between them and the Lord. Millstones are involved. As time goes by, it will become increasingly clear that these women are an open grave.

  12. JRH says:

    “I’d rather be alone than in a miserable marriage that inevitably ends leaving two divorced parents and a child from a broken marriage.”

    I’d rather she be alone, too. Win-win, right?

  13. MGTOW porn brought to you by Dalrock and the MSM.

    >The chances of meeting the right guy, at the right age and being financially secure to have a family are slim.

    Sure it’s hard! If the “right age” is 39. It’s even harder if “financially secure” means I quite my job and be a SAHM watching soap operas and changing diapers every 4 hours while my husband works AND takes the second and third shift.

    What are these women thinking. Oh yes, they are not thinking. There is nothing to worry about because whatever happens, somewhere, somehow, it is a man’s fault.

  14. greginaurora says:

    “If I’d been born in another era, men would have had to commit to marriage before they had sex, which might have meant I’d have got the children I yearned for.”

    So, it’s the “era”‘s fault now. It’s not that you’re a slut at all.

  15. Easttexasfatboy says:

    There’s a lot of reasons……but the cold hard fact is, young men are reluctant to wife up a feminist slut. Something about being screwed over and robbed, I reckon. We all know of men who’ve learned the hard way. Well, there were younger eyes watching…..and learning.

  16. Anon says:

    I do wonder if the author is taking these women to write an Onion-like article to troll readers, or if this really is more shaming of men.

  17. feeriker says:

    “If I’d been born in another era, men would have had to commit to marriage before they had sex, which might have meant I’d have got the children I yearned for.”

    My God, is this woman for real?

  18. justdoit says:

    Yeah, that Daily Mail article is one of the best, evah.

    A couple of months ago I spoke with a (still passably young) woman that thought I might be someone decent to be with, “if only the timing was better”. You see, she “wasn’t ready yet”. I explained that when it comes to a good man, there can be no such thing as
    “not ready yet”. I received a blank stare. I swear, some of these chicks are so deluded it hurts.

  19. Easttexasfatboy says:

    If you read the article and comments, it definitely has an “Onion” flavor. But when you look at some of those women, it makes me shudder.

  20. Dave says:

    Please folks, don’t be so harsh. Let someone man up and marry these experienced women.
    AT, looks like you might have lots of picks here.

  21. feeriker says:

    I swear, some of these chicks are so deluded it hurts.

    It’s more solipsism than delusion. The only things that matter are her wants, needs, and time. The rest of humankind had better just get in line with that.

  22. Micha Elyi says:

    There’s a lot of reasons……but the cold hard fact is, young men are reluctant to wife up a feminist slut. Something about being screwed over and robbed, I reckon. We all know of men who’ve learned the hard way.
    –Easttexasfatboyu

    The men who “learned the hard way” were thinking “Sure it happens, but it won’t happen to me.” This kind of thinking, still common among men, gives rise to the illusion among policy makers (and others) that, as Dalrock described it in Our slow drift away from marriage, “(it) seems like we could gut marriage and still have it work”.

    Well, there were younger eyes watching…..and learning.

    Yep, and more and more watchful young men of this generation are thinking, “It could happen to me.” This is an element in the shift in the culture that Dalrock described in Our slow drift.

  23. Is This Thing On? says:

    The big problem I have with this is that the feminist goal has always been the destruction of marriage. They have succeeded. The sphere simply doesn’t have an answer, other than what works to benefit men as individuals. Our solutions hand them victory.

  24. galloper6 says:

    So now they demand an Alpha Player that can pay for her Carrie Bradshaw life style, switch to instant monogamy AND show up at her convenience.

  25. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Micha, it’s a sad day when you realize the you’ve become a proverbial saying0))). It all goes bacteria to being made a fool. As knowledge of feminist tactics spread, from victim to victim, the word gets out. I got off lightly, no doubt. It could have been much worse.

    This is part of the problem in Germany. The men aren’t marrying feminists. The feminists in Germany are whack. Well, nothing like rape to focus the mind, right? The leftist manginas are worthless, and the right wing are becoming radicalized. True German Christians are going to face horrible times. It turns out that there really are Islamic rape squads.

    In the coming civil war here in the USA, men can’t afford to deal with feminists.

  26. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Back to, not bacteria.

  27. Just Saying says:

    Are reluctant men to blame for so many women being childless?

    Of course… It couldn’t be that men are just tired of ugly, fat, loud-mouthed, things that try to act like men. Sure we’ll enjoy them when they are young, but no need to saddle yourself with a cow when you get free milk, and can enjoy the pretty young things as long as you want. Men really need to thank the women of today for creating a man’s world. Thank you ladies – couldn’t do it without you. And keep the young, pretty ones coming – we’re always willing to break in a new one…

  28. Mistral says:

    For men, marriage and children are a risky prospect. The state has been weaponized against us. Divorcing wife is angry at you? Police arrive and cart you off to jail. She doesn’t want to stay married to you? She divorces everything EXCEPT your wallet–b/c she’s ‘used to’ a certain lifestyle–and you get to pay your ex-wife to fuck other guys and teach your kids to hate you.

    WHY would any SANE man get married? Your wife can withdraw the benefits she brings to the table (sex, maybe tidying up now and again–ability to cook is too much to ask for) whilst you, as a man, can look forward to forking over 40% of your *gross* for the Rest of Forever.

    Fuck.That.Shit.

  29. Anon says:

    Note how even the married couples they present are ones where the husband is 6-10 years younger than the wife. Completely reversed, ultra-mangina relationship.

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  31. Spike says:

    I’m of the age now where I see a lot of women acquaintances through work or socially being in the same predicament as the ugly feminists in this article.
    What used to surprise me in my Blue Pill days is how similar the stories always are. In fact, the stories are practically identical. The only change is the female protagonist “heroine”. She is always educated, successful, middle-class comfortable and ALWAYS has had relationships that were never good enough, that always fell apart, with men who were never good enough (“weak men screw up feminism”).
    She NEVER sees that she should have chosen (halted hypergamy), made a marriage out of a man when she was in her twenties (“submitted”). What she sees is her stratospheric awesomeness (sexual market value), based on all of the wrong things. When she starts getting older, she doesn’t get less picky and in line with reality. She gets even more picky. Now she never gets married, because she is “too independent”. Even sadder are the ones who triple down on the stupidity and become lesbians. These are the ones who have such high expectations and opinions of their “awesomeness” that no man is good enough to touch their porcelain vaginas…only another Princess like herself can.
    All of them are lonely, sad, unhappy, damaged, broken.
    Now,post red-pill and into the Purple Transition (where a man reassesses his life choices and starts tolerating less woman-shit but still honors his marriage vows), All I can say to them now is simply, “But, didn’t you want independence? You wanted Independence, and now you have it.”

  32. DeNihilist says:

    Spawny Get, let me fix this for you – “It’s not your fault, women. It’s ours. We just don’t find the prospect of marrying you attractive.”

    It’s not your fault, women. It’s ours. We just don’t find you attractive.

    There, that’s better.

  33. greyghost says:

    They can always go to a sperm bank and arm wrestle for that last sample. The UK must be fun.

  34. infowarrior1 says:

    The Daily Mail knows those “Conservatives” are actually just Cuckservatives.

  35. enrique says:

    I knew a 40-something Smith College type gal like this (“Rachel”), who many years ago, tried to ensnare me. She gave me the usual “but I’m a great catch, very smart, will challenge you, good looking (you know it Enrique!), educated very well…I love to travel, you love to travel…fine dining, etc”

    That’s when I FIRST tried my now standard I always advise men to do (see Rollos’ saving the best sex for other men posts)…:

    “Rachel, all that travel and fine dining, nice cars…I used to love it too, I swear…I did so much of it with former g/fs…(sighing, shake head just a lil’ bit)…but that was the OLD me…now I just want to settle down with that simple young gal that wants kids, live out in the country”

    See how that works? Rachel used to like to swallow and anal…but not any more, now she wants to settle down.

    I used to like to lavish g/fs with jewel, trips to Macow and stuff…but that’s the old me.

  36. I guess this is what they wanted, right? When we’re all young, women rule the game, men play the cards we’re dealt. WOMEN rule the game while they are in their prime. Men can’t grab a woman by the hair and drag them to our caves, women choose when young and in their prime. Women choose this man, that man, or no man at all but they sleep around plenty. The men go along with the program because in the end, whatever WE think, women make the choices when women are in their sexual prime, SMV-wise. My ex made her choice in 1992, got her “not haaaaapy” divorce and child support, toyed with lesbianism, re-married to an herb, made another baby with epilepsy and now her husband is Parkinson’s or something. Tragic for her, tragic for all these women, but they made their choices without a care for the future.

    Me? After my ex busted up our marriage in 92, I was 34 and I didn’t look back at marriage, I went from one fine young woman to the next for thirty years, except now I was exercising my choice never to marry again. It was DC, Bill Clinton’s day, and I cut a wide swath through the singles situation in that period. Single women were making tons of dough, the economy was good and every chick in town was channeling her inner Monica Lewinski.

    But guys, just hang on, ok? I’m telling you, from the age of 30 onward, the advantage really flips and it never goes away. At my age now, late-fifties and still bangin’, the women see no wedding band on a healthy older guy and boy are they sweet, respectful and loving (like I wish they had been when I was twenty), because there are lots of older women and fewer and fewer healthy men. And me? Dating a 49 year old recent import from Brazil, German blond, tight body, Portugese accent. Life is good, but when you marry, everything is over for men. All I can say is, don’t do it.

  37. Easttexasfatboy says:

    ITTO, feminism destroys society. The most efficient way is to destroy the family unit. Healthy societies produce numerous healthy children. Feminists, are by their very nature, destructive. These are the cards that have been dealt.

    However, a gamechanger looms…….the very fact of Islamic rape and sexual slavery. You know, real rapists……who aren’t even impressed when a feminist slut opens her mouth. Historically, such women aren’t useful as slaves. They’re beheaded as examples.

    Islam controls women by brutal punishments and death. Actually, that’s been the historical norm. That’s what has worked for millenia. Feminists are going to find themselves in a very difficult spot…..they will have to choose who to submit to, or they’ll be liquidated. No, in the coming fighting, women are going to be a major expenditure of resources. Men will make quick decisions as to who is worth the food and shelter. Abject groveling might help.

  38. mike says:

    Gotta love alpha widowhood. The poor chumps that marry women like this…you are my AD guy lol.

    “I always thinks of my life as BD and AD – Before Duncan and After Duncan. He changed everything.”

  39. cptnemo2013 says:

    Reblogged this on MGTOW 2.0.

  40. shammahworm says:

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/how-much-does-ivf-allow-a-woman-to-delay-having-children/

    It would be very interesting to see what percentage of new mothers over 35 rely on some kind of fertility treatment just to conceive.

  41. Robert What? says:

    As ever it is always about what women think they deserve. Never about what they bring to the table to make a desirable man want to commit. “Gee, Melanie, may I have the honor of being your support slave in a sexless marriage for the rest of my life?”

  42. Kaminsky says:

    It almost seems like the DM is pulling off some high level journalism here. Let me explain;

    It appeases several readerships at once;

    1.Onionesque parody (leftists are Onionesque these days anyway, so it writes itself)
    2. Happily married women get to neener, neener here
    3.Unhappily married women get to salvage some joy by seeing the misery of unmarried counterparts.
    4. Single, childless women (who like it that way) get the chance to get their dander up with “I’m child-free, not childless” recreational indignation (their lifeblood)
    5. Unhappy, single childless women get their pity party (their lifeblood). Afterall, this article is an homage to them in specific.
    6. Single men who want to be married get to be a little bit pissed off which is satisfying to guys who are clearly gluttons for punishment (remember they want to get married)
    7. It’s MGTOW PORN! (nod to bluepillprofessor)

    This is a genius level article in terms of meeting so many demographics needs. The only demographics that would get nothing out of this article are married men or divorced men but they are too busy working to have time for casual reading anyway.

  43. none says:

    The heartbreaking realisation that she was never going to have a baby struck late – in her 50s…

    Hahahahahahaha. In her 50s?

  44. bookstopper says:

    Interesting that comments are no longer being accepted. Too many men speaking the truth, I guess.

  45. Dave says:

    Hahahahahahaha. In her 50s?

    You won’t believe how absolutely deluded most westernized women are. It’s like they live in a parallel, alternative Universe. Their realities are completely based on fiction.
    To top up their crazy narcissism, some of these women in their 50’s will still refuse to date a 50-year-old man because “most men my age are not as healthy as I am; I only date younger men”.

  46. AurelianWay says:

    No one is in infallible (feminists included). Own your shit ladies, you screwed up, & you came to the dance late. You have no one to blame but yourselves. It’s hard to learn from your mistakes when you are in your 50’s but you still have to pull up your bootstraps & move on.

  47. Casey says:

    I just read the entire article over at the Daily Mail.
    Priceless! Absolutely priceless.

    If ever there was an article that lays out abundantly clear the ideas of SMV and MMV, then this is the one.

    These women are currently 1s or 2s on the MMV scale. They pissed away their best years making bad dating/relationship choices. Period.

    If women want children, they must pursue it when they are in their late teens or early 20s; and probably with a man a few years older than yourself.

    Men come into their own SMV/MMV from their late 20s onwards into their 40s. Women peak around age 27.

    If women don’t make the pursuit of a good relationship the foundation of their efforts, then women will end up like these aged feminist twats.

    The advice women receive from the likes of people such as Oprah isn’t good for women; it’s good for BUSINESS.

  48. Casey says:

    @ Aurelian Way

    “Own your shit ladies, you screwed up, & you came to the dance late.”

    Agreed, I’d say more likely they brought a knife to a gunfight.
    Scratch that……..

    They brought a sour, mean, combative, feminist attitude to a pleasantness party.

    Really? You tell me you aren’t married with children?
    And it’s all the guy’s fault?

    Twats!

  49. feeriker says:

    “most men my age are not as healthy as I am; I only date younger men”.

    Listen up, all you old maids: Younger men aren’t “dating” you; they’re f***ing you.

    That’s right – they’re not attracted to your pathetic, delusional, juvenile, petulant, and selfish personalities. They are fetishists who have a thing for “grannies,” a sexual dysfunction that makes them view you as prey to be exploited. They no more want a “relationship” with you than do the hundreds of men who flee in the opposite direction when they see you approaching them on the street. To put it in the vernacular, you are a BOOTY CALL, nothing more.

    TL;DR version: if you’re not too much of an insufferable bitch, you might luck out and find some degenerate young perv to give you all the degrading sex you’ll ever want (albeit on HIS terms). A “relationship,” though? Sorry, but that train left the station decades ago and ain’t part of a regularly scheduled service that’ll return.

  50. feeriker says:

    “Own your shit ladies”

    Ain’t gonna happen. Ever.

    Women are simply not hardwired to take responsibilty for their actions or to admit to the error of their ways. Expecting them to do so is like expecting wolves to cook the food that they kill before they eat it. It’s something that’s far beyond their ability to even conceive of, let alone do. Men have known this since the dawn of human civilization, which is why women and their behavior have always been so tightly controlled in every civilzation that has ever survived (until such wisdom is forgotten, the reins are loosened, and then what we have now occurs, leading to inevitable collapse).

  51. The pastor has been released. Wow.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/16/iran-state-tv-announces-release-4-dual-nationality-prisoners-without-revealing-names.html

    (His name was provided as part of a leak from inside Iran. So it’s not yet official.)

  52. Donald Duck says:

    She didn’t realize she’d be childless till her 50s hahahahaha.

  53. Dissillusioned. says:

    I am praying for Saeed. When he realizes what his wife did, it will hurt him much more than any torturer did in the Iranian dungeon he was locked in. But with his faith and through God’s strength even he will come out of it. My prediction is that after she divorces him, God will bring a much better wife and restore him just like God did to Job.

  54. Dalrock,

    However, one defining characteristic of the Trad Con is their stone cold humorlessness when it comes to delivering the “weak men are screwing feminism up” message. To Trad Cons there is absolutely no irony in this message, just a sense of disgust and outrage that weak men are standing in the way of achieving glorious feminist progress.

    Of course. This makes perfect sense. Trad-Con men go all Tucker Carlson….

    …usually because they have daughters. Trad-con fathers had to put up with the epic feminist bullsh-t from their own wives all their lives (wives who could AT ANY MOMENT blow up the marriage and collect cash and prizes) and so Trad-Con men feel like emasculated men as a result. BUT!!!!!! they figure society will pay it back by granting them a Beta-Bux male to marry their c-ck carrousel riding daughter (make her financially whole) who will have the same “right” to blow up HER marriage and collect those same cash and prizes if he doesn’t bend over for her. Because this is less and less happening (I see at work) men in their 50s and very early 60s, and very disgruntled now. Their useless 28 year old daughters moved back home with their $100K in student loans and no job. SO yeah… angry.

  55. Mike Eccles says:

    For those of us living in the UK this article is sadly typical of the Daily Mail – it was a reasonable newspaper at one time – we used to get it at home when I was a youngster,

    Sadly typical of the “Femail” part of the paper: any comments I would have made have already been made, I think that it was Abraham Lincoln who made the comment that you can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. (Please forgive a Limey if I have misquoted him). As Dalrock and others have mentioned so often, some people’s capacity for self-delusion is beyond comprehension.

    Mike

  56. feeriker says:

    Their useless 28 year old daughters moved back home with their $100K in student loans and no job. SO yeah… angry.

    That’s a big part of it. Even if only subconsciously, TradCon dad is hoping that some clueless beta schlub will swoop down out of heaven and take off of his hands the useless, costly albatross that was once his darling baby daughter (trust me, guys: I know from personal experience that “failure to launch” is a phenomenon by no means unique to young adult sons). That clueless and gullible beta schlubs (like these TradCon dads) are now in dwindling supply and fewer and farther between than ever has daddy in a panic and angry. “It’s just not fayerrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!”

  57. feeriker says:

    @ Mike Eccles:

    Your quote of Lincoln was spot on.

    While I haven’t spent more than a couple of days in the UK and thus have no basis for firsthand observation, I get the distinct impression that any young British male with anything resembling a traditional outlook on life, who has a stable future ahead of him (or as stable as any future can be in this day and age), and wants to setle down had better prepare to expatriate if he wants to find a marriageable woman, as the supply of these in the UK is arguably even smaller than that of North America. Would this be a generally accurate observation?

  58. justdoit says:

    QUOTE:

    Genevieve hilariously complains:

    It was as if the men’s thinking hadn’t caught up with what women were told to expect from life. And I wasn’t prepared to accept this.

    ENDQUOTE

    Uh. no. No man, nor “society” told women that they should suddenly have massively increased and massively unrealistic expectations of what they should “expect from life”. This is something women conjured up all on their own, will shriekingly silencing anyone that dared to disagree.

  59. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Aging women are surprised because their fantasies — marrying a movie star in your 40s and having kids — is reality for female celebrities, for those few women who are rich and famous and wealthy and beautiful.

    I’m a Game of Thrones fan. I only discovered the show this year. I saw a lot of GoT clips on YouTube that seemed contain Red Pill wisdom (despite a few women warriors), so I bought the DVD. Since then I’ve Googled for info on the show, the creators, the actors, etc.

    I read about actress Lena Headey, who I’d never heard of before, but who plays Queen Cersei. Reading about her, I realized that Headey has lived the “life journey” that most women dream of.

    Headey became a successful actress straight out of high school. After nearly 20 years of acting and modeling, she married a rock musician and had his child in her mid 30s. She divorced him some 5 years later. Then had another child, presumably with her new (unmarried) live-in love, another successful actor. Headey has also been linked romantically to other actors in recent years.

    This “life journey” is typical for female celebrities, who remain beautiful into their 40s. They lead exciting careers, and between projects they spend their time traveling the world, doing magazine photo shoots, accepting awards, appearing on talk shows, and being celebrated and admired in general, with the cream of men still lining up to love them.

    Many female (and male) celebrities lead such lives, and even our “serious” news shows are inundated with celebrity coverage.

    Celebrity culture is another factor that has seriously eroded our overall culture. Such a life lifestyle might work, in a way, for a lucky, wealthy few. But it’s a very poor role model for the majority. Yet an increasing number of Americans (women especially, I think) insist on living the celebrity lifestyles, posting their photos and personal information on social media, and living irresponsibly in general.

  60. Dale says:

    >With … a figure unmarked by the stresses of pregnancy, she feels more confident than ever.

  61. feeriker says:

    With … a figure unmarked by the stresses of pregnancy, she feels more confident than ever.

    Given her hubris, I’m surprised that she took that picture with clothes on.

  62. Opus says:

    A Norman Church, on the South Downs, followed by the setting up of home in a Georgian Rectory: that is what Melanie (an author) says she dreamed of. I used to go to weddings just like that and indeed recall one where the couple did move into a Georgian Rectory and had children (two daughters) though not immediately of course. It was (and remains) a good match – wanna-be hippies maturing into establishment figures (supporters of the local Church) in the village: he was not handsome but he took over the family business and she was – not to be too cruel – plain though UMC (hence the South Downs wedding). These things happen to some, but there are simply not that many Georgian rectories to go round and not that many well-heeled members of the County Set to woo you. As it is not possible for all men to make themselves attractive or rich, women need to widen their aperture so as to include more men if family life is what they want. This, Melanie surely failed to do so I doubt that she and the other two She-beasts really wanted a family. The consequences for our race are one thing but some men dodged a bullet with those three strong empowered women.

  63. JDG says:

    I’d say any man who does not marry a feminist has dodged a bullet, AND most western women are feminists. In a society such as ours perhaps it is better when women wait too long to get married.

  64. Tam the Bam says:

    Corks! I thought it was dear old Kellie “Frank” Maloney, ‘avin’ a bubble wiv the press agin.

  65. Easttexasfatboy says:

    As I was thinking about all of this feminist whining, it occurs to me that the lucky ones escape such harpies. Take a look at them. 20-25 yrs on the carousel. And their fertility has fled out the window. And the preacher says…..”wife up those lost lambs!”

  66. Is This Thing On? says:

    Could Tucker in the above clip be a bigger simp? I think not.

  67. Casey says:

    Tucker couldn’t be a bigger wimp if he tried.
    This from a man falsely accused of rape by a woman (Wikipedia).

    If he dared to grow a pair of nuts in that interview they’d have immediately been castrated by his employer. Such talk by men about the piss-poor treatment they receive from society & women in general is not to be spoken aloud, nor allowed.

    Much like the refrain from speaking Lord Voldemort’s name.
    Although, Voldemort is certainly better looking than those aged feminists in the Daily Mail article.

  68. Boxer says:

    That clueless and gullible beta schlubs (like these TradCon dads) are now in dwindling supply and fewer and farther between than ever has daddy in a panic and angry. “It’s just not fayerrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!”

    Younger men who have daughters should go back on this blog and read comments from greyghost to see how to raise a daughter right. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone realtalk the process quite as succinctly as he does.

    The older dudes who are supporting the feminist wimminz that they raised to be strong and independent (lol) are beyond hope, and are reaping what they spent a lifetime of raising up. Good.

  69. nels says:

    “Given her hubris, I’m surprised that she took that picture with clothes on.”
    I’m surprised, but very grateful. That is not a figure I wish to see more of.

  70. J1J2 says:

    The saving grace with feminists is that they are evolutionary dead ends. Too bad my daughter seems to be one, due to the feminism having in effect become the official ideology of the public schools.

  71. higharka says:

    “This is something women conjured up all on their own, will shriekingly silencing anyone that dared to disagree.”

    lmfao. Methinks justdoit is unaware of the ethnic roots of feminism.

  72. Patrick Albanese says:

    It would be interesting to hear the complete histories (oops. I mean her-stories) of these women.

    I’d be curious to know with all their sleeping around if any have had an abortion.

    Adds a level of irony to the longing for a baby theme.

  73. Casey says:

    @Dale

    “With … a figure unmarked by the stresses of pregnancy, she feels more confident than ever.”

    That’s actually true. She had no children, so her figure is unmarked by the stresses of pregnancy.
    However, Father Time takes no prisoners………and her figure has indeed been ravaged by the passage of T-I-M-E !!!

    We all get older………however, she presents like a miserable, sullen, harpy old cow who would desire nothing more than to wipe her feet on a man.

  74. Longtorso says:

    HOW THE EVANGELICAL CHURCH IS FAILING WOMEN
    …Because my feelings spoke to a slight—a slight by God himself. It spoke against the common belief the church actively teaches women: God brings us the perfect partner at the perfect time and that partner would take care of me and my children until death. Further, divorce nullified another popular teaching: How God’s perfect plan for me would bring fortune and not calamity. More than anything, it spoke against the ever-present idea that I was a daughter of the King, and he would protect me like a loving father….

  75. Mike Eccles says:

    Dear Feeriker

    Glad I got the quotation correct!
    Your comments about UK women are, unfortunately true – although there are exceptions. My sister has been happily married for nearly 40 years and my cousin for 45 years. Both were in their early twenties when they married and both have produced well adjusted children. All of the youngsters at my Church seem to be OK too. However, the general feeling I have is that many of the younger generation of UK women and men appear to be ill behaved – there conduct (as reported) abroad is I fear, shocking and makes me ashamed to be British sometimes.

    Mike

  76. You cannot fault no man marrying these women. Only a fool would. Why is it so hard to understand. Men don’t want to marry old women, only young ones. If you want to get married as a women, you have to find your man early. These women made a choice and that choice didn’t include men. It is their fault and theirs alone. Leave them to their misery.

  77. Most women do not age well, married or not. They only ever have any worth when they are young. A man really is doing them a favour when he stays with them after they turn 35. And that favour can only be returned by the woman if she gave herself to him when she was young and a virgin.

    Just laugh at them, laugh. Always counter their ‘man up’ rants with ‘what man with balls would marry you?’ It’s a laugh a minute and so richly deserved by femcunts.

  78. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Mockery and scorn go both ways, you know. Feminism is a dead end. It kills children. Don’t agree? Look at abortion. A woman’s right to kill her baby…….what sane man would marry a murderess, or a woman who agrees with that? Churchianity is a death trap.

  79. Those broads weren’t exactly eyecandy when they were 16. Look at them NOW. No thanks, ladies. Go, be independent now. Be all your gender allows you to be, but rest assured, you will do it alone. This is what you wanted, besides, you don’t need a man. What good is a man? None I say, none.

  80. Boxer says:

    Unclear on what the photographs are trying to illustrate, other than elderly male drag queens’ horrid fashion sense and uniform proclivity for swaddling their lumpy flesh in garish red dresses.

  81. Boxer says:

    Totally off-topic. My favorite Sam Hyde open mic.

    Let’s hear it for single moms!

  82. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    feministhater: Men don’t want to marry old women, only young ones. If you want to get married as a women, you have to find your man early.

    But ordinary middle-aged women don’t know that. They see the 40-something Courtney Cox on her TV show Courgars — or Jennifer Lopez, etc. — and they think that just because 40-something celebrities can snag HOT 20-something boy toys, that they can too. So they frivorce their husbands, and place embarrassing Craigslist ads seeking younger men to “spoil me like the queen that I am.”

    I’ve seen CL ads featuring UGLY 50-year-old women, expecting YOUNGER men to “spoil” them with gifts and trips to exotic locales.

  83. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Boxer: Unclear on what the photographs are trying to illustrate, other than elderly male drag queens’ horrid fashion sense and uniform proclivity for swaddling their lumpy flesh in garish red dresses.

    I’ve wondered about those photos. Perhaps the photographer was being subversive. Maybe he or she, or the editor, knew there was a disconnect between the article and the photos. That the photos illustrate how delusional and unworthy of pity these women are.

    The article can’t say that explicitly. So the article expounds all the correct feminist talking points. Yet its photos prove the opposite.

    The article essentially says: Look at these strong, independent women. See how admirable and attractive they are! All the while, everyone plainly sees that they aren’t. But the feminists are too delusional, or too much in denial, or too afraid, to publicly complain that the women in the photos are ugly, and that the photos are subversive.

  84. feeriker says:

    Men don’t want to marry old women, only young ones.

    Men don’t want to marry bitchy, bitter, hate-filled headcases of any age. I’d take a sweet, demur, feminine woman of 50* over a shrieking, violent femtard of 25 any day of the week.

    (* Since single such women of this age are for all practical purposes nonexistent, this statement is made for rhetorical and illustrative purposes only.)

  85. feeriker says:

    I’ve seen CL ads featuring UGLY 50-year-old women, expecting YOUNGER men to “spoil” them with gifts and trips to exotic locales.

    If you want some free entertainment, go combing through the woman’s dating profiles on Ourtime.com (dating site for those over 50). Believe me, NONE of them look anything remotely like the women featured in the TV ads and the level of self-delusion in their profiles makes the disjointed ramblings of Charles Manson seem absolutely Platonic by comparison.

  86. Spike says:

    Longtorso says:
    January 17, 2016 at 8:33 am
    HOW THE EVANGELICAL CHURCH IS FAILING WOMEN
    “…Because my feelings spoke to a slight—a slight by God himself. It spoke against the common belief the church actively teaches women: God brings us the perfect partner at the perfect time and that partner would take care of me and my children until death. Further, divorce nullified another popular teaching: How God’s perfect plan for me would bring fortune and not calamity. More than anything, it spoke against the ever-present idea that I was a daughter of the King, and he would protect me like a loving father…”.

    Thanks for finding a good example of female solipsism. Now the whole evangelical church is to blame. She cites a long list of activities that if married she really shouldn’t be doing, nor should the church be encouraging. Neither does she mention at what age either her or her pupil divorced: did she married at 35 after 15-odd years of “independence”, only to find that she couldn’t fit because she was too selfish? All of these women always think they are so special, whereas their stories are practically identical. Only the protagonist changes.
    Nowhere did the author ever say that her first ministry was to be to her husband. And yes – this is a ministry for women: easier for some, more difficult for others.

  87. JDG says:

    … due to the feminism having in effect become the official ideology of the public schools.

    Fathers if you care for the future of your children remove them from the public school system. Also beware of the college indoctrination / debt trap.

  88. Spike says:

    Off topic Dalrock, but I found this article in RT News, summarising Europe’s predicament with the rise of Islam and other migrants:

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/329241-europes-tragedy-merkel-immigration/

  89. Dale says:

    @Dave
    > “experienced women.”
    >AT, looks like you might have lots of picks here.

    Dave, that is nasty!🙂 We should not wish a feminist on our worst enemy… “Love your enemy” an’ all that…🙂

  90. PuffyJacket says:

    @IBB, Feeriker

    Because this is less and less happening (I see at work) men in their 50s and very early 60s, and very disgruntled now. Their useless 28 year old daughters moved back home with their $100K in student loans and no job.

    Interesting. Talk about a devastating way in which the costs of misandry could fall back on manginas. Remember that in a “failure to launch” scenario, care and responsibility for an unmarried daughter falls back to the father, meaning he is the one now stuck with his indoctrinated, broken, and useless (and perhaps medicated) daughter. He gets to see with painful clarity the destruction he has wrought on his own child, and bear the brunt of the financial consequences he had been covertly dumping on other men for decades, thus putting an end to his free-ride.

    Add to this the fact that many Boomers are staring down the barrel of a troubled retirement already, and one can see that our stereotypical mangina is headed for a sea of pain in the not-so-distant future. This also demonstrates how our youngest generation of men (and MGTOWs) have adapted remarkably well to this coming reality, by ensuring they will not be the ones duped into supporting such women.

  91. MarcusD says:

    Speaking of single mothers:

    James Bulger killer Jon Venables joins dating website under different name
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/james-bulger-killer-jon-venables-5038127

    We cannot also identify the website, which has many young single and divorced mums among its users, who will not know his background if they contact – and possibly meet – the killer.

  92. CSI says:

    “‘I always thinks of my life as BD and AD – Before Duncan and After Duncan. He changed everything.”

    That’s the “tingles” you read about on manosphere sites. An irrational, overwhelming desire for an “alpha” man. I can’t imagine what it must feel like it, but so many women waste their fertile years chasing after these ephemeral emotions. And often the men they form these affections for don’t seem all fantastic, its just they seem to press all the right buttons in this particular woman’s brain. Just seems very strange.

  93. MarcusD says:

    Whatever Happened to Manhood?
    http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2016/01/a-review-of-whatever-happened-to-manhood-a-return-to-biblical-manhood.html

    One would have expected a concerted outcry from the church followed by a flood of books, seminars, and workshops calling on men to shake off these stereotypes and become again the men God created them to be. But that has not happened. There was, of course, Promise Keepers, and thank God for that group, but its influence has dwindled. Focus on the Family and the Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood have ministered powerfully in this area, as have the filmmakers who gave us Fireproof and Courageous, but their work has not been taken up by the church and society as a whole.

  94. Looking Glass says:

    @MarcusD:

    The saddest part is the writer can’t see that he’s the problem, as much as anyone else.

  95. Mike J Baron says:

    “……….before pulling the divorce/child support ripcord.”

    What an awesome phrase! Thank you! I can use this in my writing!

    Here’s an InfoGraphic of mine you might like:
    https://app.box.com/s/tkx3whjli0okg03okqtw45fx7f2gzmxm

  96. Dave says:

    Possibly the greatest threat to biblical manhood today is the church and its leaders.

  97. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    CSI: That’s the “tingles” you read about on manosphere sites. An irrational, overwhelming desire for an “alpha” man. … so many women waste their fertile years chasing after these ephemeral emotions.

    It’s worse than that. Some woman don’t seek AN Alpha — they seek a SUCCESSION of Alphas.

    Several times, I’ve come across women using the phrase, “I love being in love.” What they mean by this, from the context, is that they love having passionate love affairs, “discovering” one exciting new man after another.

    There’s an evolutionary explanation for this. Early in a coupling, both person’s brain chemicals are firing. It’s the Period of Infatuation. It’s evolution’s way of encouraging us to procreate with someone new. But after this period, the brain chemicals die down. The affair feels stale. A new person must be found, if one wants a new Period of Infatuation to refire those brain chemicals.

    When a woman says, “I love being in love, that’s a huge red flag that she’ll only be around for as long as she’s Infatuated, after which she’ll find another man. Indeed, that there’ve already been many men in her past.

  98. Easttexasfatboy says:

    Have ya’ll ever wondered why the Bible gives such pointed counsel about how to identify wolves and apostasy? That it says the threat will come from within? Feminists are just the daughters of Eve.

    Yeah, something about misleading and being misled, right?

  99. buckyinky says:

    @MarcusD
    Re: Whatever Happened to Manhood?

    I read that a few days ago, trying to direct attention via comment to Dalrock’s review of Courageous, as the author of the article seems to take the tack of whatever is thrown at the “manhood crisis” must be a good thing. My comment passed moderation overall, but the link to Dalrock was not unfortunately. Hopefully some will google and get there anyway.

  100. MarcusD says:

    Need prayers and help giving loving support to a friend in infidelity troubles
    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=995825

    What to say (or not) to a Single Person
    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=995833

    Dealing with Disappointment in Marriage
    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=995819

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