“I have always depended on the sexual kindness of strangers.”

Tracy “Hot Farts” Moore at Jezebel asks How Can We Make Casual Sex Better For Women? (language warning)

Anyone who has embarked on a first-time hookup with a man knows the following: it can be terrible, just OK, or great, but it’s highly unlikely you will get off. Is this a fixed truth of casual sex, or is there something we can do to change it?

Moore and other feminists are coveting something they can’t get.  Their first problem is a lack of ownership.  This is the tragedy of the slutty commons.  Even worse, the kind of men Moore and others want to hook up with are the least likely to care about her satisfaction;  their lack of caring is precisely what she finds so attractive.

Futility aside, Moore (like all feminists) puts her faith in the patriarchy to solve all of her problems:

Like everything that involves giving women pleasure or true equality—the wage gap, the domestic labor gap—we need men to pick up the slack.

If you take a step back, feminism is about nagging men to do what feminists want them to do.  While it won’t work in this specific application, their faith in men’s ever enduring goodwill is generally speaking quite well placed.  Feminism is the assertion that men are evil and naturally want to harm women, followed by pleas to men solve all of women’s problems.  Feminism has been so successful not because men by their nature want to harm women, but because appeals to men for assistance can be so reliably depended upon.

Hat Tip nooneofanyimport

Related: Intrasexual Competition and the Strong Independent Woman.

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59 Responses to “I have always depended on the sexual kindness of strangers.”

  1. rugby11ljh says:

    The wisdom of insecurity

  2. Pedat Ebediyah says:

    “Slutty commons” indeed.

    Disgusting, unclean, wayward, and untoward hags.

    With each passing day, being a dispassionate MGTOW becomes more and more comforting.

  3. technovelist says:

    Hey Dal:

    This article is interesting as an example of how “alpha females” still don’t get what is actually going on, and of course it’s all men’s fault:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/im-elitist-just-alpha-female-amanda-bradford

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  5. thedeti says:

    This reminds me a little of this post:

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/why-are-so-many-tradional-conservative-women-obsessed-with-making-sure-hookups-are-fair/

    Translation from the Jezebel article:

    It’s not fair that in hookups, men are getting their orgasms, but women aren’t. Hookups don’t seem to be fair, because sometimes hookup sex isn’t great, kind of like being disappointed with your carryout pizza. The solution can’t be to get into a monogamous relationship and figure out great sex. No, the solution is that the hot men we’re hooking up with who don’t give a shit about us need to give a shit, and start caring about our orgasms for once instead of just THEIR orgasms. I don’t want to be treated like a semen receptacle even though I’m acting like one.”

  6. thedeti says:

    And these attractive men are rightfully responding to the translation:

    “Why should I care about you when you don’t care about yourself? Why should I respect a woman who has no self-respect?”

  7. Tom Arrow says:

    Million dollar question: Do they really care about their little orgasms or do they just care because the media monkeys say they should care? Just think about that old trend of ejaculating as quickly as possible. Are they really unsatisfied because of the sex or because media says they should orgasm / whatever?

  8. Anchorman says:

    Those women can just “take care of themselves” after the guys finish.

    Think of the empowerment!

  9. Malitav says:

    If it’s ever terrible, just OK, and rarely results in orgasm, why would women even go after it?? This whole perverse culture astounds me. Morals aside, doing something that doesn’t feel good AND carries risk doesn’t make any sense.

  10. PokeSalad says:

    “Its a man’s job to respect a woman…but it’s a woman’s job to give a man something to respect.”

  11. Dalrock says:

    @Malitav

    If it’s ever terrible, just OK, and rarely results in orgasm, why would women even go after it?? This whole perverse culture astounds me. Morals aside, doing something that doesn’t feel good AND carries risk doesn’t make any sense.

    Moore’s sexuality doesn’t work like she wishes it would. She wishes she could be like a man, but the reality is that even feminists like Moore want more than anything to be possessed and desired by a desirable man, even if only for a brief moment. The man’s orgasm is her reward as well as his.

  12. Anchorman says:

    Morals aside, doing something that doesn’t feel good AND carries risk doesn’t make any sense.

    You’re right. Men often do things that don’t feel good and carry risks.

    Lather, rinse, repeat for every third wave feminist belief and note the consistent theme above.

    It’s not females being more female or doing things the female way. It’s about women acting like men and being shocked, shocked, when nature/reality/their own psyche tries to stop them.

  13. sonofdeathswriter says:

    Hit it & quit it.

    Can’t expect a relationship or sexual satisfaction from such an encounter.

  14. TomG says:

    It’s time for women to realize is sex is for procreation. Women just don’t have orgasms much. My wife wants to have sex to have babies. That’s why she asks for it. Otherwise, we won’t be having it. At my age, I kind of done with it too. I’m not in my 20s or 30s anymore. Enough sharing. Sex is fine when you’re horny. Otherwise, it is part of the relationship although limited part.

  15. BradA says:

    I doubt the LinkedIn author would remain attracted to the man who was less successful than she was, all her complaints otherwise wouldn’t stop that. She is also at least $200K in debt, something that is not insignificant. I wouldn’t touch that with a 10 foot pole, as the saying goes.

    Makes more more glad for my “unmotivated” wife. She may not be starting a business, but she is not competing with me there either.

  16. BradA says:

    TomG,

    You are missing quite a bit if you push sex into a narrow corner. The pressure and intense desire does relax with age, but it is a powerful bonding glue too many fail to take advantage of.

  17. Thomas K. says:

    “When we hang the last capitalist, he’ll sell us the rope.” – Joseph Stalin

    One of the greatest revelations I received from taking the Red Pill is the realization f how complicit I had been in my own destruction. Yes, my ex-wife lied to me. Yes, the church and its para-ministries lied to me. But ultimately, as every man knows, we are responsible for our own lives.

    After the housing market collapsed, I had business friends who started wearing a button that said, “I refuse to take part in this recession.”

    No one can subjugate you without your consent.

    “Give me liberty or give me… Death.” Sometimes that’s the choice, but it is a choice.

    Well, I refuse to take participate in my own slaughter. I refuse to participate in the Gynocracy.

  18. Scott says:

    It’s time for women to realize is sex is for procreation. Women just don’t have orgasms much. My wife wants to have sex to have babies. That’s why she asks for it. Otherwise, we won’t be having it. At my age, I kind of done with it too. I’m not in my 20s or 30s anymore. Enough sharing. Sex is fine when you’re horny. Otherwise, it is part of the relationship although limited part.

    If I ever reach this stage, just kill me.

  19. Thomas K. says:

    Ya know, I learned to start takong responsibility for my own orgasms when I was 10.

    Ever since then the sex has been whatever I made of it. Sometimes it’s been great. Sometimes it’s blah. Sometimes it sends me into orbit and sometimes it makes me feel depressed. But however my orgasms make me feel, in the end it’s MY responsibility how I feel.

    Responsiblity. Try It Sometime.

  20. The Question says:

    “Like everything that involves giving women pleasure or true equality—the wage gap, the domestic labor gap—we need men to pick up the slack.”

    Feminism Rationalization 101: Claim you’re a strong, independent woman who doesn’t need man or depend on them for anything, and anything they can do you can do better; you then turn around and say you need men to “pick up the slack” during casual sex so you can climax just like him.

    With the amount of hamsterbating these broads engage in, they shouldn’t be whining about they can’t get no satisfaction.

    And whatever happened to that fish not needing the bicycle?

  21. Thomas K. says:

    Here’s a thought:

    If nature makes it hard for a woman to “take responsibility” for her orgasms, maybe nature doesn’t think her orgasms are that important.

  22. terrifictm says:

    It’s all and always about penis envy.

    “Why do Jewish women close their eyes during sex?

    Because they can’t STAND to see their husbands having a good time.”

  23. Cane Caldo says:

    @Dalrock

    Moore’s sexuality doesn’t work like she wishes it would. She wishes she could be like a man, but the reality is that even feminists like Moore want more than anything to be possessed and desired by a desirable man, even if only for a brief moment. The man’s orgasm is her reward as well as his.

    Thatswhatimtalkingabout!

  24. Opus says:

    This is a Christian blog and none of you can possibly know what it is like to be a bona-fide God-free Alpha-Dude and all-round stud and as Boxer is absent I will have to explain what it is like from the man’s point of view. You will no longer envy pick-up artists: It is damned hard work. Women like the Miss Moore assume that men go around all day with a raging hard-on ready at a moments notice to spring into copulating action, but that just is not true. We have to get it up, and it won’t always obey our commands indeed it is decidedly bolshie when it wants to be. That tends to upset women and women – some of them – hardly help: lieing like at a sack of potatoes does not help, neither do military-style instructions: Opus do this, Opus do that, Opus put on the condom!!! Opus you are TOO BIG. That sort of thing is a boner-killer.

    Then there is the post coitus reasoning (which Miss Moore wrote about): women as we know from Da Ponte and his Don Giovanni think either that they have been rapety-raped or that the man was enjoying himself so much he must want marriage.

    If she wants an orgasm she should pay for a gigolo: whatever you want, including professions of love, the gigolo will provide – for a fee.

  25. hugo stiglitz says:

    Bill Buhr,

    “They hate that you are happy”. “The only thing they want is what you got”.

  26. mdavid says:

    Dalrock, Feminism has been so successful…because appeals to men for assistance can be so reliably depended upon.

    Only Western men can be so depended upon. And that’s getting thin.

    Every passing day means a) less men willing or able to provide assistance (divorce & broken families), b) less women worthy of assistance (e.g. think tattooed, fat, bad mouth, bad manners, sexually permissive), and c) less Western people, period, who won’t be missed.

    Point: eminism is simply not successful. In fact, It’s a dead woman walking

  27. J1J2 says:

    “You’re so mean. Stop it. Sto-op it. You so mean!”
    Little girls don’t have to grow up these days. All they have to do is declare themselves feminists, then carry on as before.

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  29. “Moore’s sexuality doesn’t work like she wishes it would. She wishes she could be like a man”

    She wishes she could be more like one of the few men that hook-up culture works for. She sure doesn’t want to be like me.

  30. Dalrock says:

    A few days ago someone ask about a response to “If moma ain’t happy, nobody happy”. I can’t seem to find the comment anymore. Does anyone recall who made it, or on which thread?

  31. Cane Caldo says:

    It was “happy wife, happy life”.

  32. Dalrock says:

    Thanks Cane. That explains why I couldn’t find it. Now I have it: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/she-lost-her-best-friend/#comment-191524

    [Edit: Ha. I posted this as you posted the link.]

  33. Scott says:

    But his question was basically, “what is a good response to this?”
    I am terrible at coming up with comebacks that quickly. However, the comeback needs to incorporate a quick and easy way to expose what that says about women.
    It makes them look like children. It makes them look like borderlines.
    One essential feature of Borderline Personality Disorder is that their boundary issues and poor self-soothing skills result in an inability to feel pain without lashing out and making everyone suffer right along with them.
    If they are expressing any kind of emotional discomfort and the person next to them does not outwardly express the same thing, they are deeply disturbed by this and will act out until everyone else in the room is as miserable as they are.
    That’s what “happy wife/Happy life” always makes me think of.
    But its not a quick come back.

  34. mdavid says:

    Scott, LOL on the DPD image. Would love a quick response that uses that.

    I’ve used “obedient wife, no strife”. But “Proper wife, shelf life”, or “Humble wife, shelf life” is more subtle and effective in today’s divorce culture.

  35. Dalrock says:

    @Scott

    But his question was basically, “what is a good response to this?”
    I am terrible at coming up with comebacks that quickly. However, the comeback needs to incorporate a quick and easy way to expose what that says about women.

    I was originally going to reply in a comment, but after reading this I think it would be a good topic for an open post. Surely someone reading will have a brilliant reply.

  36. Scott says:

    Glad I could help. Always happy to be the resident red pill psychologist.

  37. Boston to Providence says:

    Wife in the kitchen instead of here bitchin’.

  38. Scott says:

    B2P-
    Wow. Yours rhymes.

  39. Bike Bubba says:

    Let’s see…..the young lady (loosely speaking) is ready to give a gentleman (also loosely speaking) no commitment sex, and she’s wondering why he’s not laboring to keep that for which he’s paid so little, and which he has little guarantee of enjoying again? She’s surprised that he hasn’t learned the little things which drive her wild while both of them are inebriated and they’ve known each other for precisely 27 minutes?

    Not being a patron of singles bars (or whatever they’re called these days), it strikes me that the scariest thing about these people is that, with their clear lack of thinking processes, they yet are allowed to vote and drive. And yeah, you know who they voted for in the top line of the ballot in 2008 and 2012.

  40. Just Saying says:

    we need men to pick up the slack

    Why would a man want to? The present situation benefits us quite well – at least the ones that know how to use women to get what he wants. I may get a woman off in passing, but it’s not a priority. I have taken to using an anal vibrator on some women primarily because it gets me off harder, and it’s something they would never do with their bf or hubby – if it gets her off as well, wonderful, she’ll come back for more, but for me, it isn’t a major consideration.

  41. Caligula says:

    Hookups will never be “fair,” if “fair” means equality of orgasms. Two biological realities work against this “fairness”:

    1. When it comes to short-term sex, women are far choosier than men. Few women want short-term sex with any but the hottest men, and thus in a hookup scene it will be these men who have the negotiating power, and can (and will) have things on their terms.

    2. If one assumes that behaviors evolved in the ancestral environment then one must acknowledge that from a Darwinian perspective, female orgasm IS optional (but male orgasm not so much). And never will this be more true than in a one-off hookup.

    Some feminists presumably would like to define biology to better suit themselves, but no amount of foot-stamping is going to do so.

  42. Anonymous Reader says:

    This is the tragedy of the slutty commons.

    This is the funniest and truest thing I’ve read all day. It sums up “girlz gone wild”, “no good men” and all the other post Wall rationalizations so well.

  43. pabarge says:

    What everyone fails to understand – the women who are not getting the orgasms are deliberately blocking them and purposefully working to not have the orgasm. And this behavior is hypergamy in its most bitter form.

    These women don’t want to get off. They want to bully the men they’ve managed to hook up with. They would rather belittle and humiliate men rather than enjoy the simple pleasure of an orgasm.

    the moral of the story, if it still needs to be said is this: don’t boink feminists. Men are repulsed by feminists. Boink your hand before you boink a feminist.

  44. Spike says:

    “we need men to pick up the slack”
    -Tracy Moore
    Hang on, but doesn’t feminism teach that women don’t need anything off men, that ‘a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle’?
    So once again another feminist writer shows the inconsistency and outright parasitical nature of feminism.
    pabarge is right: don’t boink feminists. I’d go one step further: don’t have anything to do with them.
    “You need a man like a fish needs a bicycle”, you say. Okay. Not a problem.

  45. mike says:

    The men that would answer her plea are the men left on the beta sidelines. Alphas don’t care.

  46. >>”It’s time for women to realize is sex is for procreation. Women just don’t have orgasms much. My wife wants to have sex to have babies. That’s why she asks for it. Otherwise, we won’t be having it. At my age, I kind of done with it too. I’m not in my 20s or 30s anymore. Enough sharing. Sex is fine when you’re horny. Otherwise, it is part of the relationship although limited part.”

    >>@Scott: “If I ever reach this stage, just kill me.”

    Thank you for that, Scott. Let me give an A-men!

    @Opus: “This is a Christian blog and none of you can possibly know what it is like to be a bona-fide God-free Alpha-Dude and all-round stud and as Boxer is absent I will have to explain what it is like from the man’s point of view.”

    Than you for that, Opus. Let me give you a hoo rah.

    “Moore’s sexuality doesn’t work like she wishes it would. She wishes she could be like a man”

    Apex fallacy. She wishes she could be more like the 5% of men who can hook up at will.

  47. Mariah8 says:

    According to my (male) biology teacher back in college, female orgasm had a linked effect to the chances of conception, especially the first time around. obviously women get pregnant without orgasms, but orgasm could increase odds towards certain men.

  48. Mariah8, the side benefit clearly being that hardened feminists not having orgasms is a twofer. The best part of which is biology working against them bringing children into the world to torment.

  49. Mandy been here a while says:

    I commend you for reading her entire article. I had to stop when I read her most profound thought beginning with “So men tend to f&@$ until they orgasm…”

    Shakespeare wept.
    Why is it these women have paying jobs writing? Some women are intelligent and do have interesting perspectives or experiences to share. My grandmother grew up on a farm raising chickens. Her stories of even mundane tasks are a thousand times more interesting than this.

    [D: Welcome Mandy]

  50. grampy_bone says:

    My PUA friend has a joke about this: “How can you tell when a woman orgasms?”

    Answer: “WHO CARES?”

  51. Striver says:

    First time sex is usually no great shakes for the men, either. As usual, we complain 1000x less about it.

    Men don’t get their “hypergamy” satisfied usually either, since even above average men will get rejected by many women and have to learn love and attraction for those that will have them. So having sex with some average woman, with all of her flaws, for the first time is not all that erotic many times.

  52. Jim says:

    “Feminism is the assertion that men are evil and naturally want to harm women, followed by pleas to men solve all of women’s problems.”

    Could these women be anymore confused? Ha.

  53. JDG says:

    Wife in the kitchen instead of here bitchin’.

    Yep! And sammiches she’s a makin’ cause no sass am I takin’.

  54. Ron says:

    Feminism is the assertion that men are evil and naturally want to harm women, followed by pleas to men solve all of women’s problems.

    When I read that I immediately thought “that’s how a spoiled petulant child sounds when they desperately want a parent to show tough love to them”

    My God, they are nothing more than frightened children in need of a firm hand.

  55. Tim J Penner says:

    Tracy Moore’s title could also be:
    “How do We get the Patriarchy to Force an Orgasm Subsidy from Hot Men?”

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  57. rivelino says:

    “the kind of men Moore and others want to hook up with are the least likely to care about her satisfaction; their lack of caring is precisely what she finds so attractive.”

    brilliant.

  58. rivelino says:

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