The advantage of leaving Sulkowicz (Mattress Girl) off the lawsuit.

The Other McCain explains the advantage of Nungesser not including Sulkowicz in his suit against Columbia in Emma Sulkowicz Is a Vindictive, Dishonest and Crazy Slut — Allegedly

Now, if we ponder every possible avenue by which Paul Nungesser could (a) vindicate his reputation, (b) possibly collect a large cash settlement, and (c) deliver a brutal payback to Sulkowicz for her effort to destroy him, I doubt he could have done better than what he has done: Instead of suing Sulkowicz, he sues Columbia. Why?

  1. Columbia’s endowment is reported at $9.2 billion — that’s billion with a “b” — which means they may (and probably should) decide that quietly paying Nungesser a couple of million bucks is a small price to pay for ridding themselves of this bad publicity.
  2. Suing Columbia calls attention to how the university violated its own policy by permitting Sulkowicz to breach the confidentially requirements of the university’s sexual misconduct hearing process and, indeed, by endorsing this breach through Professor Kessler’s role in Sulkowicz’s “performance art” project.
  3. Most of all, by not naming Sulkowicz as a defendant, this means that Sulkowicz does not have cause to respond to the allegations he makes against her in the Columbia lawsuit, and guess what? You can’t be sued for defamation because of allegations made in a lawsuit.

I claim no legal insight here, but this sounds like a very clever strategy.  See McCain’s full post for more.

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71 Responses to The advantage of leaving Sulkowicz (Mattress Girl) off the lawsuit.

  1. Opus says:

    Never sue an impecunious litigant. Never appear to be cruel to women. Never libel anyone.

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  4. $9.2 billion?!? Mr. Nungesser should never have to work again.

    And I hope he enters all her facebook messages into the court transcript.

  5. earl says:

    Her response in which she keeps digging the hole deeper:

    “It’s ridiculous that he would read it as a ‘bullying strategy,’ especially given his continued public attempts to smear my reputation, when really it’s just an artistic expression of the personal trauma I’ve experienced at Columbia. If artists are not allowed to make art that reflect on our experiences, then how are we to heal?”

    See…her being promiscuous, getting STDs, and wanting to engage in sodomy and having that artistic expression taken away from her smears her reputation and makes her the victim.

  6. srsly says:

    At this point, the university has as much incentive to keep her out of it as he has. The only avenue she has to get before a court now is to sue him civilly for assault. At least, theoretically she could do that, but unfortunately for her, courts are not known for acting on the accusations of demonstrably crazy people without examining the evidence offered by the accused.

  7. Dave says:

    The only avenue she has to get before a court now is to sue him civilly for assault.

    Can’t she still be called as a witness by either party?

  8. john03063 says:

    This will never get as far as a trial if the university is smart. We will see an undisclosed settlement, no requirement for Columbia to admit any fault, and a gag order imposed on everyone.

  9. Oscar says:

    Dudes date crazy chicks because they’ll do things in bed that normal women won’t, but it never seems to end well. Don’t ignore the crazy. Heed the red flags and run!

  10. Don Quixote says:

    john03063 says:

    April 25, 2015 at 4:50 pm
    This will never get as far as a trial if the university is smart. We will see an undisclosed settlement, no requirement for Columbia to admit any fault, and a gag order imposed on everyone.

    I think you’re right.
    But if this is the outcome, Columbia will have to take extra care in the future when dealing with false accusers and skanks.

  11. ’23. Emma also messaged Paul frequently throughout that summer with messages
    including: “wuv youuuu, “- “i miss and love you btw” – “Paul i really miss you – “i really mis
    you – “Paul I wuv you so much. Please stay w me foevah” – “paul I miss you so much” – “like
    u know when you tell people you miss them and you don’t really mean it? – i actually mean it – i
    miss you so much – ahhh” – “pookie – i miss you – “I LOVE YOU – SO MUCH” – “I MISS
    YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING – “I love youuuu” – “and l would LOVE to have you here –
    omg – we could snuggle” – “PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU
    PAULLL” – “DUDE I MISS YOU SO MUCH” “I love you Paul!!!!!!.”‘

    –Sigh. Where did all this love go WRONG?!? The suspense!! I don’t even have the heart right now to finish reading the lawsuit– I just want to freeze that moment in time, when they were still trying to hook up at the ADP party. Then it was all lolcats and chill sesh– can’t these kids still work things out? Fingers crossed!!

  12. earl says:

    ‘Dudes date crazy chicks because they’ll do things in bed that normal women won’t, but it never seems to end well. Don’t ignore the crazy. Heed the red flags and run!’

    Sodomy is an act of perversion no matter which sex you do it to.

  13. Paul Proteus says:

    Yep, very smart strategy. It makes it harder for Sulkywitz to claim that she’s being attacked. It makes it harder for SJW whingers to cry that this poor girl is being attacked. Finally, if Nungesser wins or it settles out of court it puts every other post secondary institution on notice and makes them a bit more reluctant to simply ‘listen and believe’.

  14. Andy says:

    earl, do you consider blow jobs sodomy?

  15. srsly says:

    Dave
    Neither side wants her as a witness.

  16. earl says:

    ‘earl, do you consider blow jobs sodomy?’

    It’s part of the definition…so yes.

  17. Jeremy says:

    He really should sue for $10-20 million or more, and he should insist on any settlement having a disclosed amount. Don’t let them weasel out of the pain they should receive by having a “we settled this out of court for an undisclosed number.” Make them pay, and make them pay PUBLICLY.

    You don’t send a message by going for small payouts as punishment. Even if he doesn’t win all $10 million in court, he’ll put the fear of financial hardship on endowment organizations. It’s not like they don’t have the money, and they publicly supported the violation of their own gag order, making proving malicious intent almost a lock.

  18. olympiapress says:

    In my experience, girls who let guys do an Eiffel Tower on her are never sane. Guys who do an Eiffel Tower on a girl are never straight.

  19. Eric says:

    The only avenue she has to get before a court now is to sue him civilly for assault.

    She has no chance of prevailing. Heck, this is one of those cases it might get thrown out before things really get started. He has lovey-dovey text messages from her dated after the supposed “assault”. Nungesser is really in the catbird seat here. Sulkowicz and the Columbia administrators put him there, too, through their own stupidity.

  20. Dave says:

    Emma also messaged Paul frequently throughout that summer with messages
    including: “wuv youuuu, “- “i miss and love you btw” – “Paul i really miss you – “i really mis
    you – “Paul I wuv you so much. Please stay w me foevah” – “paul I miss you so much” – “like
    u know when you tell people you miss them and you don’t really mean it? – i actually mean it – i
    miss you so much – ahhh” – “pookie – i miss you – “I LOVE YOU – SO MUCH” – “I MISS
    YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING – “I love youuuu” – “and l would LOVE to have you here –
    omg – we could snuggle” – “PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU
    PAULLL” – “DUDE I MISS YOU SO MUCH” “I love you Paul!!!!!!.”‘

    This explains why Paul ran. This type of crazy obsession is too much for anyone to endure indefinitely, male or female.

  21. Crank says:

    @TFH
    “The better news is that such false kangaroo courts will decline by about 90% . . .”

    The thing is, the kangaroo court actually reached the proper verdict here – twice. And in two other cases against him (which were obviously brought once his identity was out and others were making stuff up to get him kicked out). But having reached the right conclusion, the school then allowed her to run roughshod over the result with a public vendetta, and even encouraged her.

  22. Dave says:

    In my experience, girls who let guys do an Eiffel Tower on her are never sane. Guys who do an Eiffel Tower on a girl are never straight.

    Pardon my ignorance, but what does it mean to do an Eiffel Tower on somebody? O never mind, I checked Google

  23. Dave says:

    This will never get as far as a trial if the university is smart. We will see an undisclosed settlement, no requirement for Columbia to admit any fault, and a gag order imposed on everyone.

    According to this site, only 5% of all lawsuits go to trial.

  24. Sodomy is an act of perversion no matter which sex you do it to….including blowjobs..

    Is that what the Lord told us? Probably not since He was a Jew. So only PnV with the possibility of conception, no birth control, no BJ’s, no eating out. Good Lord. Are we allowed to kiss? What about tongues? Fingering? How about a sensual massage? What about a bit of rubbing, buzzing fun? Can you at least put some lube or work up that slit before you go for insertion or is it just close your eyes and let it rip? I did not see a no-hands rule in the RC Catechism? Are you the same religious guys that guide it with a mirror? Maybe that would work.

    Surrounded by Roman sexual debauchery, sex orgies, ritual prostitution, yet Jesus said not a word on any of this. If you actually read the Bible it is almost seems like He was not all that concerned about a lot of the things pious religious people today are concerned about. Sexual debauchery, for example. You think it was a coincidence that the Pharisees challenged Him with a woman caught in adultery?

    Hmm, I think Jesus DID have something to say about the pious religious leaders of the day. Let me go check on that.

    Dalrock: This is a common legal strategy. Go for the deep pockets. The deep pocket can join other defendants if they choose. The case against the school hinges on the professor encouraging the harassment mattress carrying. That professor WAS the University (see also respondeat superior) and she violated the dudes civil rights- starting with the presumption of innocence- and it caused him damages. He is going to win but it will settle in the hundreds of thousands, not millions. If it goes to trial the jury can find there were no monetary damages (since the publicity et al is likely to turn out to a net economic benefit to him by the time of trial) but they could still award millions of dollars in punitive damages.

    Impaired Post

  25. srsly says:

    Eric
    Did you read the rest of my comment? I agree that she could not prevail, and I think that you are right that she would not really get started. She would have a difficult time even retaining a lawyer willing to represent her. Under Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (which are more or less copied by all 50 states) a lawyer may be punished for signing any pleading without a reasonable examination of the law and the facts, and can be liable for the expenses incurred by the other party in responding to a baseless claim. The fact that everything she says is bullshit doesn’t necessarily mean her lawyer would lose, but I damn sure wouldn’t run that risk. She could represent herself and at least get before a judge, but that’s not what she wants. She won’t tell her story to anyone she doesn’t already know will credulously repeat it as truth, ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

  26. Rockman says:

    Pardon the off topic comment but did you realize that a contribution to KERA, DFWs NPR affiliate also supports “women & girls lead”? To the tune of 40,000. I’m asking for my support back because they say it is for radio and TV programming. No mention of direct support to feminist causes.

  27. I said he’d get about $3 mil yesterday. I stand by that. Columbia will settle out of court for an undisclosed amount, just some small percentage of their endowment. And none of will ever know for sure how much it is. But it will be millions. And that wont stop this nonsense, it will continue.

    I sent a letter to my alma mater with a small check to be added to their endowment. I told them that if, IF, I ever find out that they are sued by any man in the same manner that Nunguesser is rightfully suing Columbia, they will never get another penny out of me. That was a threat. I’ll let everyone know if their alumni office calls me to assuage my fears. But I refuse to be the one who just finances out-of-court settlements for victims of BPD driven feminist imperative hysterics.

  28. olympiapress says:

    I told them that if, IF, I ever find out that they are sued by any man in the same manner that Nunguesser is rightfully suing Columbia, they will never get another penny out of me. That was a threat. I’ll let everyone know if their alumni office calls me to assuage my fears. But I refuse to be the one who just finances out-of-court settlements for victims of BPD driven feminist imperative hysterics.

    It was under the radar, but my Alma Mater had this lovely incident happen. So, no, not donating ever again. And sorry for being all group sex tonight, gang. But she ran a train with four guys. Decided months later it was rape after daddy found out. Police laughed the whole thing off. Yet two were expelled. I suspect the lads in question were African-American since they would otherwise be identified.

    Bizarrely, that college was known for years to produce top notch African-American STEM grads thanks to a program set up by a local billionaire.

  29. Eidolon says:

    RS McCain missed a point that’s relevant here:

    4. By suing Colombia, Nungesser bypasses the crazy broad altogether. Basically he’s asserting that Colombia should’ve kept this crazy dog on a leash, proceeding from the assumption that she’s a nut job and that the adults should’ve kept her in line. His action makes it clear that he doesn’t even see her as being at fault, because she’s nuts and that’s to be expected from a crazy person. It’s the adults who should’ve known better that he’s upset with.

    It reminds me of a thing CH featured a while back, where a woman was pestering a guy in a gaming tournament and his reaction was to look around and say “Whose chick is this?” i.e. would the man responsible for this crazy woman come and stop her ridiculous behavior?

  30. Dave says:

    Eidolon, you mean this?
    “Whose b!tch is dis?”

  31. earl says:

    Well sodomy comes from the town of Sodom. Seems that God the Father didn’t care for that evil they did. God the Father addresses it as part of the sexual abominations in Leviticus.

    St. Paul mentions that sexual immorality is one of the reasons to not inherit the kingdom of Heaven. Jesus may not have mentioned it specifically but his Father and one of his disciples addressed it.

    Besides the question was about sodomy…and I looked up what it meant in the dictionary.

  32. javaloco says:

    “Most of all, by not naming Sulkowicz as a defendant, this means that Sulkowicz does not have cause to respond to the allegations he makes against her in the Columbia lawsuit, and guess what? You can’t be sued for defamation because of allegations made in a lawsuit.”

    I would agree with the “most of all” here. That is justice in and of itself.

  33. Don’t listen to BPP, he’s just stuck on the fact that none of us will marry recycled ‘virgins’ and so he decides to shame instead.

    Obviously Jesus and God are not upset with sexual debauchery so you don’t have to get married anyway and can continue to fuck around as you please. You see, BPP, you douch, either way, men don’t need to get married to your silly fuckwit Churchian sluts!

    Take care, bye,bye now!

  34. Eidolon says:

    @Dave

    Exactly. Nungesser’s suing Colombia is the equivalent, dismissing the nutso woman and asking “who’s responsible for this crazy broad’s behavior?”

  35. @Dave: Not to be pedantic, but I believe the epigram has been crowdsource fine-tuned to: “Whose bitch this is?”

    Or, “Whose bitch dis is”, though personally I think clinging to correct English diction in “this” makes the incorrect syntax all the more pungent. It’s the Veni Vidi Vici of Ebonics.

  36. –Or is it: “Whose bitch this be?” D**nit! “Whose bitch this be?” Anything less is an A- on the Linguistics final. So sorry fo the conusfion

  37. The Question says:

    @Dalrock Did you notice this lovely tidbit in the lawsuit?

    “Paul was raised in a progressive egalitarian home in which both of his parents assumed full-time responsibilities as caretakers and as breadwinners. Paul’s mother, Karin, is a long-time journalist for the National Council of German Women’s Organizations, Deutscher Frauenrat. She is the co-founder, and a writer, on the feminist writer’s blog weibblick and has published on gender-related issues such as feminist theory, women in the media, discrimination of migrant women, equal pay, and women’s rights as human rights.”

    Talk about fragging one of their own.

  38. Crank says:

    I think he may well still sue her, if he thinks he can get anything. But the claims against Columbia are very very different than the claims against her, so bringing them together could be a distraction.

    The claims against her would mostly be based on defamation. But truth is always a defense to that. So, if he names her in the same proceeding as Columbia, then they have to relitigate whether what she is claiming is true – namely, that he raped her. That would be a massive distraction in the context of his Title IX claims against Columbia.

    In suing just Columbia and the professor, the falsity of her claims would seem to be a given. Columbia already acknowledged and adjudicated the claims as false on two occasions. How can they now create a distraction by relitigating that?

    On the other hand, by introducing all the back and forth between him and her in their complaint, maybe they’ve already reintroduced the issue some how.

  39. Minesweeper says:

    @Bluepillprofessor
    “So only PnV with the possibility of conception, no birth control, no BJ’s, no eating out. Good Lord. Are we allowed to kiss? What about tongues? Fingering? How about a sensual massage? What about a bit of rubbing, buzzing fun? Can you at least put some lube or work up that slit before you go for insertion or is it just close your eyes and let it rip? ”

    Brilliant.

    “Surrounded by Roman sexual debauchery, sex orgies, ritual prostitution, yet Jesus said not a word on any of this. If you actually read the Bible it is almost seems like He was not all that concerned about a lot of the things pious religious people today are concerned about. Sexual debauchery, for example. You think it was a coincidence that the Pharisees challenged Him with a woman caught in adultery?

    Hmm, I think Jesus DID have something to say about the pious religious leaders of the day. Let me go check on that.”

    Yup. A few of us are finding this out as well, that Gods position on sexual interaction is different from the Church. Although, its almost unimaginable for those who still believing the churches party line.

    “He is going to win but it will settle in the hundreds of thousands, not millions. If it goes to trial the jury can find there were no monetary damages (since the publicity et al is likely to turn out to a net economic benefit to him by the time of trial) but they could still award millions of dollars in punitive damages.”

    Actually, being a young man, still in his studies, having being seriously marked by this. He could easily claim for $5M in lost potential revenue depending on where his career would have gone without this, even without punitive damages or compensation for the slander and the fact he will never ever be free of it.

    A rape accusation is something a man never gets over, whether it occurred or not. Hopefully, he will sue her as well later on when she has money or her parents inheritance.

    I would guess the lawyers on the uni side are sweating buckets at the moment, as they will be crucified if this goes to court, because they should have stopped this, they will move to cover this up and move on ASAP, so expect them to bend over backwards.

  40. “Yup. A few of us are finding this out as well, that Gods position on sexual interaction is different from the Church. Although, its almost unimaginable for those who still believing the churches party line.”

    God isn’t the Great Gnostic in the Sky that people like Origen and Joshua (P)Harris(ee) make Him out to be. Sexual morality is important, but it’s one frame of a bigger picture. The citizens of Sodom also mistreated and ignored the needy among them; many people don’t realize that Proverbs classifies that as blasphemy.

    And Mine’s right. I hope he’s awarded lots of money, because his prospects for employment wil be sllimmer from here on out.

  41. Malcolm says:

    @earl Saul of Tarusus (later called Paul) was not one of Jesus’s disciples, but was a latecomer who converted after Jesus death. (Jesus’s disciples are listed in Matthew 10:2-4, Luke 6:13-16, Mark 3:16-19.) He never met Jesus. Jesus’s own brother, James, hated Paul and wanted the church to have nothing to do with him. Paul’s adoption of Old Testament sexuality should be no more persuasive than Ebionite insistence that Christians had to accept all of Mosaic law.

  42. Minesweeper says:

    @Chris Dagostino
    “The citizens of Sodom also mistreated and ignored the needy among them; many people don’t realize that Proverbs classifies that as blasphemy.”

    I didn’t know that, but the truth is the Sodomites seem to have incorporated male on male gang rape as a social ordinance. Even the offer of a fresh female virgin wasn’t enough to call them off of their want to rape male visitors.

    It wasn’t the act of anal sex between males they were destroyed for, it was prison like gang rape or worse.

    “I hope he’s awarded lots of money, because his prospects for employment wil be sllimmer from here on out.”

    Yeah, can you imagine what the wimenz will say to any company boss who hires him ? He is a marked man, until feminizms boils over.

  43. Minesweeper says:

    @earl
    “God the Father addresses it as part of the sexual abominations in Leviticus.”
    Where exactly does God mention male on male gang rape ala the US penitentiary ?

    “Paul mentions that sexual immorality is one of the reasons to not inherit the kingdom of Heaven”
    He was talking about temple prostitution.

  44. Minesweeper says:

    @earl, which is why the line “why you join with a prostitute” is mentioned.

  45. Malcolm says:

    @earl I find the book of Acts apocryphal.

  46. Robin Munn says:

    @Malcolm –

    What about Peter’s inclusion of Paul’s writings as belonging to the Scriptures, in 2 Peter 3:15-16? (“… just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.” Emphasis mine, of course.) You may not like Paul, but the Apostle Peter considered Paul’s writings to be just as authoritative as any of the other Scriptures. And when you find your own opinion (of Paul, say) to be in direct contradiction to the Bible… well, it’s time to revisit whether your opinion is correct.

  47. Gunner Q says:

    Minesweeper @ 12:54 pm:
    “I would guess the lawyers on the uni side are sweating buckets at the moment, as they will be crucified if this goes to court, because they should have stopped this, they will move to cover this up and move on ASAP, so expect them to bend over backwards.”

    I wonder if colleges will start forcing NDAs and binding arbitration agreements on incoming students so the false accusations can continue? That will pop the higher-education bubble for sure.

  48. earl says:

    He was talking about temple prostitution.

    I’m speaking about this verse…the joining with prostitute is another verse.

    http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/6-9.htm

    Of note: I’ve read some theologians consider the sexual sins to be minor in relative respect to the others…however their seriousness is that they are the like the gateway sin to the worse ones. They make your heart blind to the seriousness of sin…which is why it is important to have a pure heart.

  49. Minesweeper says:

    @earl, if you can stretch to it, jump 6 verses, this will give you greater insight to the whole passage.
    http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/6-15.htm

    Sexual sins are still sins, but the church in its ignorance has redefined what it thinks are sins. This is why you need to be led by the spirit of God and not by man’s rules.

  50. earl says:

    ‘Sexual sins are still sins, but the church in its ignorance has redefined what it thinks are sins. This is why you need to be led by the spirit of God and not by man’s rules.’

    The church is led by the Holy Spirit.

  51. Minesweeper says:

    @earl, please, the next time you watch a millionaire pastor screw his flock for contributions so God can then bless them, just think of that.

    Without getting into the whole RC vs Luther bun flinging debate as I know big D takes a very dimm view of these things and will lead to a permanent ban. Are you really saying everything was kosher in the world of the church for a long time?

  52. Paul says:

    I was looking around at various left wing oriented web sites and the comments sections are just so frightening that I don’t even know where to begin.\

    It appears that most leftists are in favor of sexual assault being a “special crime” that requires the burden of proof and due process be lowered.

    I saw one comment, from a MAN no less that said this and I quote:

    “Even if what this guy and his lawyer says is absolutely true, FUCK THIS GUY AND FUCK HIS LAWYER, there is a larger issue that is more important than any single individual.”

    How exactly are we supposed to fight this constant shift towards totalitarian notions of justice among the left?

  53. earl says:

    ‘Are you really saying everything was kosher in the world of the church for a long time?’

    I’m saying the church is led by the Holy Spirit. The church Jesus founded.

  54. Minesweeper says:

    and there would that be earl ?

  55. KP says:

    Dave,

    I suppose she could be called as a witness (though which side would be crazy enough to do so?)

    BUT a witness is not a party to the controversy before the court, they’re just… a witness. They are not “before the court” in the ordinary sense of that phrase.

    ibb,

    Columbia will settle out of court for an undisclosed amount

    If I were the plaintiff in this case, I would NEVER settle for keeping the agreement undisclosed. Each and every mention of keeping the agreement undisclosed would be met by the same response: “Then I’ll see you in court, mofos!”:

  56. Lemuel says:

    In Earls defense about blowjobs: Personally, I don’t think blowjobs aren’t that great. Don’t care how “good” the women think they are at it. It’s nice foreplay at best. Am I wrong?

  57. Karl says:

    An undisclosed settlement could include – admission to Columbia’s School of Law, for a free ride. And lots of the non-monetary clauses

  58. earl says:

    ‘and there would that be earl ?’

    The church that leads back to the Apostles.

  59. Isa says:

    @earl
    Off topic, but regarding your search for a faithful Catholic wife, try Coeur D’Alene. It’s the site of a very large SSPX church, school etc. Although they are in rebellion, I do know a man who met and married a woman through the wonders of the Internet from there. They now attend a FSSP parish and are by all accounts quite happy. If you speak French, there are also quite a number of women in France itself that are quite chaste. SSPX again, but possible to shift the opinion.

  60. @Lemuel

    Indeed. Men have been conditioned to consider oral and anal sex to be the highest and best kinds of sex thanks to the pornography pushed on them by godless homosexuals in charge of the adult-entertainment industry. And after this, sterile, birth-control-mediated vaginal sex is the next best form of sex. (And you’ll probably need a condom whilst all this happening.)

    The proper form of sex is between two married people who married chaste, and who don’t have to worry about being a walking petri dish of STDs. Since pregnancy and family and children are blessings from God, there’s no worry about a pregnancy resulting from sex. And since chastity is an actual virtue, the man won’t have his mind sullied and corrupted from a decade of viewing terabytes of porn. And since gluttony is a sin as well, pregnancy doesn’t need to be paired with a fear of having a frigid, 300 lb post-partum wife.

    Numerically speaking, people with religions that encourage procreative sex and discourage sodomy will outnumber everyone else, simply because they will manage to reproduce and nobody else will.

    @Bluepillprofessor

    I’ll take a world where a man can’t perpetrate sodomy on his chaste wife in exchange for one where both husband and wife agree to render their marital kindness to one another.

    If anal/oral sex are really all that important to you, learn game and run pickup.

    The core of the lie of modern anti-Christianity and feminism is that one’s personal happiness and fulfilment is the most important good in the world. I, for one, do not think one’s sexual happiness is life’s highest and most important good, whether that happiness belongs to a man or a woman.

  61. Minesweeper says:

    @IBB,
    From the bloomberg article:
    “Most of the complaint, however, is devoted to specifically rebutting Sulkowicz’s account of what happened ”

    Not sure if its just a poor choice of words or the pun is as intended. Anyway, gave me a laugh.Thank you for posting.

  62. Minesweeper says:

    Sweden grants Julian Assange appeal over rape allegation
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32502387

    And as some wise soul here mentioned :
    “He raped me is the new he didnt call me back”

    You would think after 4 years and £10M’s of police expenses, someone from sweden could hop on a commuter flight for £40 and interview the guy, obviously at that point she cant have him dragged away in handcuffs and renditioned to guantanamo bay. Dont you love how they have a safe word for illegal cross border kidnapping and torture.

    Assange being an aspergers and probably NPD too, will be completely incompetent in his dealings with women (although speaking from experience woman love a NPD). Being a serial rapist, I doubt he is capable.

  63. earl says:

    Thanks for the suggestions Isa. I certainly think a man can find that type of woman anywhere if he knows what to look for. Even if it’s 10-20%…that’s still not 0%.

  64. @Minesweeper

    I think part of the issue here is that rape is a crime that trumps all other crimes. A rape accusation is equivalent to being an Enemy of the State.

    Expect all Enemies of the State to end up with trumped-up rape charges.

  65. earl says:

    Another point to add what John is saying…most of what is shown is in fact a fantasy or illusion. Fantasy can give you tingles you think translates to the flesh and blood world we live in but it doesn’t show the resultant shame or mental illness that comes after from acts like that. Namely because they aren’t the proper use of the function to begin with. You might try to rationalize it away…but your heart and body knows.

  66. @earl

    Indeed, I know a guy who’s now sexually oriented towards cartoon-looking characters (anime I guess). So he has struggles being attracted to real-life women. And he’s not exactly super high on the attractiveness scale himself.

    It would help young men to quit watching TV and movies that glorify a lifestyle of fornication without showing them any of the consequences that result from sky-high partner counts, or the mental problems that accrue from pursuing hours of pornography and masturbation each day.

  67. earl says:

    I didn’t realize how bad the anime thing was until I saw some guys glorifying it on twitter. Granted porn is sick…but that’s a higher level away from reality of sick when you have guys addicted to animated female characters.

  68. Minesweeper says:

    @John
    “I think part of the issue here is that rape is a crime that trumps all other crimes. A rape accusation is equivalent to being an Enemy of the State.”

    Yeah, but thats historical, the reason rape was so abhorrent was that it could kill the women at the time (internal bleeding) or during the pregnancy or possibly at childbirth, so she could easily die months later due to some lunatic.

    Also, if she survived all that, there was a child that no-one wanted to care for leading probably to its death as well.

    In short, rape used to equal alot of death all round, particularly for the perpetrator. That sense of punishment is still carried down the ages even with the morning after pill + medical treatment, adoption agencies etc.

  69. @Minesweeper

    A biblical position is to just not care about crime.

    What matters is sin.

    I could give two whits what man’s governments think a “crime” is. I do care quite deeply about sin.

    And the Bible lays out fornication as a grievous sin.

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