Too busy planning for retirement to find a husband.

She may have waited a bit too long…

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62 Responses to Too busy planning for retirement to find a husband.

  1. blairnaso says:

    Bwahahaha!!! I bet that guy had two ex-wives and a lesser drug felony. Probably terrible with money (hence being an artist and being unable to attract younger women). If he isn’t married at his age, there’s something wrong with him.

    Also, how terrible is it that you won’t find your soulmate until you’re 40? Like, you spent half your life alone on the off chance you’ll run into someone in a bar. Maybe she’s just waiting for Jesus to deliver him.

  2. Don Quixote says:

    Or if you prefer…
    Warning: Offensive langauge

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  4. Bango Tango says:

    When did men start looking for middle age women soul mates? Oh that’s right NEVER.

  5. Splashman says:

    @blairnaso, “If he isn’t married at his age, there’s something wrong with him.”

    And if he seems to prefer middle-aged women over 25yo women, there’s something really wrong with him. But her tingles tell her otherwise.

    Part 2 of that commercial shows her crying over a bottle of scotch the next morning, having realized he totally played her for a cheap lay.

    Part 3 is a reshoot of Part 1, only this time it’s a hunky millionaire giving her the eye.

  6. ar10308 says:

    They have their scenario completely backwards.

  7. Well, at least she’ll be fully covered when she’s all alone in an old age home… but what about the cats?! Who takes care of them when she kicks her air addiction, has AXA thought of that..

  8. Do they even allow cats in old age homes?! Who makes the sammiches?

  9. If he isn’t married at his age, there’s something wrong with him.

    Not really.. he could have completely decided against marriage and plays women, young and old, for willing bedding companions.

    Anyway, she has like a growth on her face, like ewww!

  10. R says:

    Marriage is an overrated financial bankruptcy scam thanks to lawyers and judges who are biased against men for all reasons. Unmarried may mean lots of alone time, but at least you won’t be alone and cleaned out broke, just alone without the cleaned out part.

  11. paddy says:

    They were soulmates at 22; but, she decided to ride the carousel for another 15 years and chase a “high powered and exciting career” since motherhood was denigrated as a choice by every single female teacher, dean, guest speaker, etc. at the college she went to. Frustrated, unhappy and alone, he went through life never having a wife that would support him in his artistic pursuits since they didn’t make money. He worked hard at his job, putting in extra unpaid hours to compensate for the female affirmative action that saw less conscientious and talented women, get promoted ahead of him. Finally, his years of careful saving and his hard-knocks business savvy, allow him to take a risk and start his own small ad agency – since he keeps his headcount well under 50 employees, he doesn’t have the EEOC giving him a problem. And since he doesn’t have to pay the bloated salaries of women who produce less than men, his costs are under control, and he and his “band of brothers” that work for him, can deliver premium service to his niche clients for modest yet profitable prices. Now he has taken a well-deserved break at a local coffee shop – one of the few perks he allows himself after years of toil. And he sees her! They will meet for coffee, catch up about old times, but her brittle feminist attitude and cynical view of male-female relationships (informed by her carousel-riding) will make it a bittersweet reunion. He will treat her gently and she will relent, enough that they will slowly become good friends. But when he finds out about her $155K in existing student debt, her car lease, and her lack of any savings, he will sadly conclude there is no future for them together as more than friends.

  12. Spawny Get says:

    Through some miracle proto-cat-lady-spinster realises that she needs to look into her financial future. Obviously she goes to see a man about this who shows her the options. Next day said woman has a whole new attitude to the boring blue-pill beta guy and his bucks.

  13. greyghost says:

    The most popular retirement plan for females is the beta bux chump. Currently due to market conditions such as MGTOW and red pill and the internet though still viable and popular it is more difficult to find a plan that meets her needs. Currently the first female fed chairperson is working with the family courts and devising ways to increase the availabilities of beta bux chumps as a work around to the red pill infection. Cohabitation laws, being seen in a photo graft with targeted chump, eventually the universal plan will be the pick a name out of a hat. The IRS was reported to be interested in assisting with the latter by using tax returns to determine which names are placed in hat to ensure all plans satisfy a minimum of needs.

  14. Tam the Bam says:

    If he isn’t married at his age, there’s something wrong with him” like being smarter than the average bear, Boo Boo.

    Soulmate? Ain’t no sich animule, that’s just a load of quasiplatonic arse-biscuits.
    Just slightly varying quotients of beauty/uglitude (both outer and “inner”).

  15. earl says:

    If there is such a thing as a ‘soulmate’ it’s Jesus Christ.

    As far as humans…we are helpmates for each other in marriage not soulmates. But when a person is hardheaded enough to think they are strong and independent….it’s hard to find the helpmate of their dreams.

  16. honeycomb says:

    Spawny Get nailed it.

    She realizes she is gonna be on the street in the end. So she gets EMK (Mr Katz) to help her find the beta men (retirement plan) for her.

    I ignore women like her like the plague. I have a plan .. it’s just not as a womans retirement plan.

  17. new anon says:

    Look at it from the standpoint of it being an ad by a large company.

    Their research must be telling them there is a significant number of single women in their 40s and 50s that they could sell their retirement services. Their research has probably also identified the #1 thing desired most by women in this group: a soulmate to spend the rest of her life with.

    So, the create an ad that shows a positive link between retirement planning and a woman finding her soulmate, and that your life really can be made right by purchasing their services.

    The fact that there is a large enough number of these 40ish and 50ish spinster women that the company thinks it is worth its time marketing directly at them–and in this manner–is the story.

    As I understand it, the numbers of these women have been, and will continue to increase rapidly. Other than men’s sites, there has been zero discussion about why these numbers are going up.

  18. Frugal Nerd says:

    @Earl:

    “….it’s hard to find the helpmate of their dreams”

    It was easy for them to find a sucker to call a soul mate only to clean out the sucker’s bank accounts and take most or all of his future income. That was before the red pill started to be administered via the internet. Suckers can still be found, but it is getting more difficult.

  19. Asher says:

    “Ya got ta diversify ya bonds niggah”

    Dave Chapelle is priceless

  20. Patrick says:

    And the funny part is advertising today is aspirational, so that ad isn’t aimed at girls like that woman, but at girls who wish they were that woman, who are probably considerably older and chubbier.

  21. pdwalker says:

    The first two comments make any others superfluous.

  22. Rex Little says:

    When did men start looking for middle age women soul mates? Oh that’s right NEVER

    Well, hardly ever. I know a guy who met a girl when she was 14, spent the next 18 years in her friendzone, lost contact, and found her again 26 years later. A year after that, they hooked up for the first time, and now they’re soulmates.

    Actually I’ve never met the guy, but I do know the woman. Been married to her for 22 years.

  23. magicalpat says:

    Obviously, the out of work artist, seeing a single woman perusing financial advice information, senses an opportunity. The only people reading such material have money to invest, and money is what he needs to sustain his life choices.

    This woman is ripe for an appearance on Dr. Phil. How I got ripped off by a Con Artist. Emphasis on the word Artist.

    She is getting played.

  24. Virtue says:

    Wow just wow. I can’t even. Just. Wow.

  25. So who is this commercial marketing to? 40 something women or 40 something men?

    Funny how the /soul-mate insecurity plays to both demographics.

  26. Tam the Bam says:

    Get a load of the keech we have to put up with, Rollo.


    The (once-upon-a-time) toothsome Amanda Lamb.
    Now she looks like a massssive X-breed of Kate Bush, Dawn French and Julie Burchill (it’s the kind of default west-side-of-the-Isles female phenotype. Most likely derived from Normandie/Brezhoneg in the earlier neolithic, or even directly from Galicia/Asturias/Cantabria and so on round into Aquitania in the latest neolithic, being constantly replenished from those sources until Caesar rocked up with his crew and fucked their shit up goodstyle. Height & Bulk can vary wildly according to locality, but basically they all look like sisters. In fact more so. It’s really quite disconcerting. I’ve seen more variation in Ayrshires or Herefords).

  27. Anonymous age 72 says:

    Rex Little says:
    November 9, 2014 at 9:59 am

    >>>> When did men start looking for middle age women soul mates? Oh that’s right NEVER

    >>Well, hardly ever. I know a guy who met a girl when she was 14, spent the next 18 years in her friendzone, lost contact, and found her again 26 years later. A year after that, they hooked up for the first time, and now they’re soulmates.

    >>Actually I’ve never met the guy, but I do know the woman. Been married to her for 22 years.

    Adding up the numbers, Rex must be in his early 80’s or I misunderstood him.

    Good for you, Mr. Little. Though I would never again marry under any circumstances, (not because of anything that happened to me personally, but because of working so much with men who went through Hell) it really worked out for you. Congratulations.

    This is also why I do not think one should dump too much on men who do choose to marry, assuming they are aware of red pill reality and are ready to accept whatever comes at them.

    Around 1990, two men I knew asked my advice. Both were in their 50’s. One was divorced. The other had been a PUA since he was seduced at age 11 by an adult woman.

    They both thought they loved their women, but were scared to death of divorce wiping them out financially when they were too old to recover.

    I had to think really hard before answering. On the one hand, I couldn’t really advise them to marry, as risky as it is. Plus it would be hypocritical to advise them to do something I would never do.

    And, it would also be bad to tell them not to marry under any circumstances if they truly loved those women.

    I finally told them that only they could decide. But, they should not marry them unless they were willing to take the well known risks of marriage for those specific women.

    They both married before the law. And, nearly 25 years later, they are both still married.

  28. Anonymous age 72 says:

    I think I have told my brother’s story before. In 1952, my father moved us from a Northern state to NW Arkansas. My eldest brother graduated from high school there in 1955. When my father moved us back north in 1956, my brother was in love with a local girl. He was under age so had to go along with us. They vowed to wait until he was a legal adult, and could support them, then he would return to Arkansas and they would marry.

    A few months after we moved North, my mother called my brother in, and told him the girl’s mother had called her to tell her the girl had married someone else. He was to say the least upset. But, eventually found another woman and married her.

    In 2005, he went back to the 50th graduation reunion. She was there, now a widow. He asked her, “Why didn’t you wait as you promised?”

    She said, “Why didn’t you wait as you promised?”

    Turns out the fiend mothers decided on their own that those two should not marry, so before we left Arkansas they met and planned out the plot to break them up. For their own good, doncha’ know? So her mom told her he had married someone else, and his mom told him she had married someone else.

    My brother dumped his obnoxious wife, gave her half of his wealth and pension, and now he is married to his original selection in a lower south state. I am told he has lost weight, and is in good health, in his late 70’s.

    I certainly hope both those vicious, evil mothers are not suffering frost bite wherever they are…

    And, I am glad women are morally superior to men. There would be a terrible mess if they weren’t. [/sarcasm]

  29. Look, I found a commercial of 40 y.o. retirement gal when she was 23…

  30. Anonymous age 72 says:

    I realize this is off-topic on this posting. But it likewise makes no sense to put it on a more appropriate but dead posting below.

    Divorce is a sin? There have been extensive arguments about this on various Dalrock postings, and those arguments do not seem to change anyone’s mind on the topic.

    My SIL is a Southern Baptist deacon. As in, “Blechh! Lord deliver us from Baptist deacons.”

    My SIL is a churchian, in spades. He believes that women cannot sin unless a man has caused it by omission or commission.. Seriously. It’s fun in a sick sort of way to listen to him lecture me on how men can control rebellious, sinful women, (even though the Bible actually says it is not possible) then watch my daughter come in the room, and all red-faced, scream at him at the top of her lungs over some trivial issue. Hee, hee.

    Of course, when they walk into church, Sunday morning, they are all smiles and happiness. “Isn’t God’s morning wonderful?”

    His viewpoint, at least in 2005, the last time (ever) I visited his home, he felt a divorced man,divorced any time, any reason, even a victim of adultery, should not ever have a church leadership position. That was also the actual practice in his Southern Baptist church. And, I am told it is very common in many churches.

    Twenty years ago, or more, I encountered a seminary thesis presented by a man who is coincidentally now very high in the hierarchy of the Southern Baptist Convention. He is not #1, but he is on the short list. This thesis, was of course, the culmination of his seminary studies, which is what most theses are.

    He used his study of the Bible to suggest this refusal to ever let a divorced man be a church leader essentially made divorce an unforgivable sin. And, the Bible specifically states there is only one unforgivable sin, and divorce ain’t it!

    I lost my copy of his thesis while making several moves, ending in Mexico. But, he said, yes, while the man and his family life were still in turmoil he had no business being a church leader. But, after his life is again under control, for example, ten or twenty years later, and he has repented any personal sin involved in the divorce and/or remarriage, there is no reason to continue to prohibit church leadership.

    Sometimes, in heated discussions on the sinful nature of divorce on this blog, I think people forget the basic Jesus message. That all sins (save one) are forgiven the saved and truly repentant, including divorce and remarriage after divorce. I realize that the Catholics may very well believe you are supposed to re-divorce your second wife and return to the first, but if so, that is their thing.

    A while back, someone commented something like, “There will be no divorced people in heaven.” Let us not be ridiculous. That would totally over-ride the basic Jesus message of repentance and forgiveness, just to suit our strong feelings about no-fault divorce.

    I agree as a man who has spent much of his life denouncing no-fault divorce as practiced in the USA, I am somewhat hostile to women who pull the trigger without valid reason. So, I can certainly understand getting carried away in our viewpoints of the sin involved in divorce. DIVORCE IS A FORGIVABLE SIN!

  31. Anonymous age 72 says:

    Interesting. I posted something here and it never appeared. Not wishing to double post, I saved it to HD and will check tomorrow. I re-read it and can’t see any unacceptable language which would perhaps automatically shove it into moderation.

    [D: I checked the spam bin since you noted it and fished it out. I have no idea why it was binned.]

  32. Rex Little says:

    @Anonymous age 72:

    Adding up the numbers, Rex must be in his early 80’s or I misunderstood him.

    Good for you, Mr. Little.

    I’m 65, and you did misunderstand. My wife hooked up with her soulmate two years ago, when she was 59; needless to say, it wasn’t me.

    It is working out for me, though. Out of remorse, and gratitude for my attitude (basically, “Hey, why not? One of us might as well be getting some.”), she’s agreed to a separation where I keep all my Social Security and half our assets. Plus she’s doing nearly all the work to get our house ready to sell.

  33. Anonymous age 72 says:

    Rex, sorry for the misunderstanding. Now that you explained it, I can sort of, but only sort of, see it in your posting. But, I am sure I wasn’t the only one who didn’t understand what you were saying there.

    Bummer, man! But, as you say, you get to keep your SS and apparently half the selling price of the house. If you are in good shape, both physically and morally, come to Mexico and get a <30 year old honey. At that income level, you'd have to take the bus to the border every 180 days for a new 180 day FMM, as many people do, instead of becoming a long-term legal resident.

    Unless you married a young Mexican chick which I do not recommend, since it is not necessary.

    If you don't have strong family ties where you are, McAllen, Texas is one of the cheapest places to retire. Very hot summers, but most folks who stay get used to it. Do the outside chores in the early morning, then stay in the house or go in the car on business when the heat comes up. And, winters are fantastic.

    No young honeys in McAllen, except for hot Mexican women who come across to marry and divorce horny older men for their money.

    But there are also small towns across fly-over country where men can live quite well on Social Security, once he owns an older house. And, if you are willing, plenty of older hens to knock on your door.

    For some reason I am reminded of a late friend with Scandinavian ancestry. He once told me a joke.

    Oley and Olga were having their 50th wedding anniversary. A big party. After while someone noticed Oley was missing and went out to look for him. Oley was outside the barn, looking totally depressed.

    His friend said "Oley, this is a big occasion, your fiftieth anniversary. Why aren't you in with us celebrating?:"

    Oley said, "Twenty five years ago, we had our 25th, and I told you I wanted to kill that vicious fiend. You told me not to, that I'd be in prison for 25 years. If I had done that, I'd be a free man today."

    (Note to hostile forces who might read this blog: This is strictly traditional Scandinavian male humor and in no way seriously advocates men murdering their wives. Women tell jokes much worse about killing and castrating men. Dalrock does not permit any serious support for violence.)

  34. Anonymous age 72 says:

    Let me note that Rex says out of her remorse and gratitude, he gets to keep his SS and half the assets. That should be automatic, not a gift from God.

  35. Anonymous age 72 says:

    In McAllen it might take a while, but at times you can buy a 14X70 mobile home AND THE LOT IT IS ON in a reasonable park for $20,000 to $30,000. Lawn mowing service runs as low as $12 every two weeks. Taxes several hundred dollars, and annual contributions to park as low as $150.

  36. Anonymous age 72 says:

    When a video finishes, the video screen will show a number of suggested related videos. On this one about missing the soul mate because of worrying about retirement was a video on the need to insure your adult parent children in case they die and you are left to care for your grandchildren.

    See it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LZC3SySvB8#t=179 since I don’t know how to specify it on the video screen on this blog.

    The man is an insurance salesman and tells how wonderful it was to have all that money to raise his grand-daughters and get them educated. after jos daughter died at 39. (No mention of the father(s).).

    Beware! In some states, depending upon who is listed as a beneficiary, the insurance money will be put into trust and whoever is raising the kids needs to rely on their parent’s social secuirty pay out and their own money; I know it was that way in my state. The evil lawyers say that money is intended for those kids when they reach adulthood, and not for the people who are raising them.

    So, if you need a bigger house to raise them, too bad. You figure it out, a’hole.

    My sister discovered this after her second divorce. After listening to the insurance man explain why this was necessary, she bought life insurance made out with half to me as simple beneficiary. I was the only other person than the woman who said she’d raise them, that she trusted to actually use every cent for her kids, if she died. I was not the person specified to raise the kids. The other half was specified to the person who had agreed to take them to raise.She figured between the two of us, the money would be there, and not tied up in trust for their aduthood.

    I guarantee you if you ask the insurance people, or the attorneys, they will try to weasel and waffle on this. check out your state laws and policies for yourself. Few parents buy life insurance to make their kids rich as adults. They want them to have things as children. These vicious bastards apparently are willing to twist that around to get the administration fees. Always follow the money.

    They don’t just screw over divorced men. They are equal opportunity screwers.

  37. Rex Little says:

    Anon, I appreciate the input very much. No way would I go to Mexico–not even if I was guaranteed to bang the hottest woman there every night–but I have considered Texas. However, I have people in the Phoenix area I want to stay close to (including an ex-fiance who might be interested in cheating on her husband), so I’m going to settle in either Arizona or Nevada. Won’t be as cheap there as McAllen, but a lot better than California, where I am now.

  38. BradA says:

    Anon72, I think putting the link on its own line automatically sets up the video correctly. Perhaps Dalrock can test and validate this (since he can delete test posts).

  39. Horton says:

    I would like to ask you to consider putting a link to a video, because some people (including me) have trouble watching embedded videos directly on website. Thank you!

    [D: Here is the link.]

  40. new anon says:

    Interesting that the guy is an artist.

    Wasn’t there a post here a while back about a Seattle woman complaining about how there were lots of eligible men in Seattle, but they were all beneath her because they worked in the computer industry. She was pining away for the artsy type of guy she used to date in college.

    [D: I linked to this post at the Spearhead a while back.]

    I think this ad is aimed at women. The guy is infatuated with her (he’s drawing her picture) while she doesn’t seem to even notice him as she walks out. She doesn’t realize he exists until the meet in the insurance office, where he says something coming in the door and seems really happy to see her. Only then does he register with her as a person. In other words she’s the prize in this scenario.

  41. Anonymous age 72 says:

    Rex, it is true Mexico or GTHO to any other country is not for everyone. Some people are just more adaptable than others. No insult intended; just simple fact, like some people like the mountains and some like the ocean.

    Some expats claim it takes a lot of cojones to expat. I can sort of see that, but for me I realized after years of working with divorced men, that I no longer was strong enough to live in a sick **** society where I was hated solely because I was a man, and where I have no civil; legal; human; or constitutional rights in any conflict with any woman.

    Most of you here have a good idea of your legal status. But, try working for years with men up to 20 hours a week, and your knowledge of your lack of legal status is on steroids.

    Right now people are scared of Mexico because of the cartels. Most expats in Mexico have no contact at all with violent crime. Ditto for tourists. However, no one should ever go where they are not comfortable. Which is why I try not to spend any more time in the USA than I have to…

    I have heard there are places in Arizona similar to McAllen. Lots of snowbirds in the winter; hot in the summer, and you get used to it if you want to. Good choice.

    I had one fellow worker who retired to Nevada, and loved it. Lives close to a major dam where he can go fishing any time he wants.

    Be aware there is a strong Christian element on this blog, and talking about helping a woman cuckold her husband is not the best move, though that may not be how you meant it.

  42. Opus says:

    sub-text: the artist is looking for a sugar-momma.

  43. Rex Little says:

    What appeals to me about Nevada is 1) it has no state income tax, and 2) if I live in or near one of the casino towns (Las Vegas or Laughlin; Reno is too cold) I might be able to get work as a part time dealer. That would be fun for me.

    Be aware there is a strong Christian element on this blog, and talking about helping a woman cuckold her husband is not the best move, though that may not be how you meant it.

    That’s exactly how I meant it. The Christians here are welcome to condemn me all they like; if their beliefs about the afterlife are correct, I was going to be roasting and toasting anyway. (If nothing else, living in Arizona or Nevada will help me get used to that. 🙂 ) 28 years ago I was helping the same woman cheat on her live-in boyfriend.

  44. Anonymous age 72 says:

    Yes, I suppose there are some here who will condemn you. But, that is not supposed to be the Christian thing by their Bible. Criticize you? Urge you to repent? Yes. And, if you do not repent, do not associate with you further. Condemn? No. Only you can condemn you.

    Though you gotta’ admit, Rex, it sure does look like a classic case of karma, heh, heh.

    I remember almost 40 years ago, working in an isolated site of the company. There was an extremely hot secretary working there. She knew she was hot, and she worked hard to make sure everyone knew she was hot.

    We had a self-righteous Christian working in my section. One morning he saw me ogling her, and told me, “The Bible says it’s as bad to think about it as it is to do it.”

    I told him, “You mean if I rip one off her the first 15 minutes in the morning, it’s only 1/32 as much sin as thinking about it all day?”

    Proving his true nature, he threw a mighty tantrum. I noted he never did explain to me where my logic was wrong.

    Actually, I could have explained it to him, but chose not to. One should never lecture another on a moral principle he does not fully understand.

    And, that in turn reminds me of a late cousin. He served on Iwo Jima, small but tough. He was the only other kinfolk as far as I know who also ever went berserk but he did it a lot.

    He got deathly sick, so the family called the priest to give him the Last Rites. Later, when he recuperated, the priest came to talk to him. He told him, “This sickness was because you are living in sin with this woman. You have a wife and must live with this woman as your sister.”

    Dean said, “You dumb sonofabitch, that would be incest.”

    Also reminds me of my youngest sister. When she was 21 and had two kids she left her husband for a 42 year old man. When she was 42 she left her 63 year old husband for a 21 year old. Who bailed the minute he found out she expected him to help raise kids almost as old as he was.

    Well, enough tales for now. Yes, Nevada has no income tax, nor does Texas, but does have a 8.5 percent sales tax.

    Sounds like you have a plan. That is the most important thing when one’s life changes drastically.

  45. SirHamster says:

    That’s exactly how I meant it. The Christians here are welcome to condemn me all they like; if their beliefs about the afterlife are correct, I was going to be roasting and toasting anyway.

    It is not the Christian who condemns, but the Eternal Judge. Everyone is/was going to roast, but you still have a chance to repent and find grace.

  46. Rex Little says:

    It occurs to me that there are quite a few cases similar to my wife’s, where women find the love of their life in middle age. Two people who went to high school together but never dated meet at their 25th reunion, or even their 40th. Both are widowed, divorced or in bad marriages, they’re all over each other by the time the dancing starts, and one of them has a hotel room that doesn’t get used that night.

    I wonder if there’s something similar to “wife goggles” operating in cases like this; he knew her when she was young and hot, and still sees that in her after 40 years and 40 pounds. It certainly makes sense in my wife’s case; her guy was friends with her all during her 20’s, and back then she was world-class, could-have-posed-for-Playboy hot. (I didn’t know her then, but I’ve seen pictures.)

  47. Lyn87 says:

    Rex is onto something. I read somewhere about a study that dealt with that very topic – attractiveness between couples like that who had been separated for many years. The gist of it was that if you had the hots for someone a long time ago, didn’t see her for many years, and saw her much later (like at a reunion), you would still feel the attraction and the change in appearance wouldn’t matter. Science… I guess.

    On the other hand I have an anecdote. I knew a girl in college to whom I was very attracted: very hot indeed. I was, at that point in my life, a complete beta chump loser and got friend-zoned. She used me to do favors for her, which I did because I didn’t know any better. Really used me – like a rented mule. I was so intent on winning her affections that I could barely eat – I actually ended up spending a couple of days in the infirmary with anemia because of that – that’s how bad I had it for her. Lying in a hospital bed: that’s when I finally figured her out. Eventually we both moved on and I didn’t see her for nearly thirty years, but even after all those years (and many years of a great marriage) it still stung a little if I thought about it. Not because I wanted her, but because she had used me like a piece of tissue paper and I had let her. Anyway, fast forward three decades: my work requires me to travel a lot and I was walking through a building on one of my trips and walked past a very old woman. I figured she was in her 70’s; probably the cleaning lady. In fact, I walked past her three times during the course of two days, although I don’t think she saw me. (You all see where this is going.) I got to talking to a couple of guys and they told me their boss went to the same school I went to. After a few questions we determined that I and their boss were at the same academy at the same time. I asked who he was. They told me it wasn’t a “he,” then they gave the name, and said she was in the building. I felt like I’d been gut-punched, but I played it cool. One of them went to get her, and in came the woman I thought was the 70-something-year-old cleaning lady. She was about 50 but she looked like an old shoe: think about Susan Anton when she was young and hot and then after thirty years of sun damage… only this chick was far worse for the wear than even that.

    I felt ZERO attraction, which quickly morphed into revulsion. I have to admit that I felt a little schadenfreude, about which I also felt guilty. I wasn’t sure what to say, so I blurted out the exact wrong thing: something along the lines of how much she’d changed. I wasn’t trying to hurt her feelings – it just came out. She must have had some idea of how far she had fallen – but I was belatedly quick on my feet and mentioned that it was because her hair was a different color. Nice save(?). As for her, she said she didn’t remember me. My immediate thought was that she was lying because she felt guilty about how she had treated me. Some switch tripped in my head and I was, as they say in Opus-land, “In for a penny, in for a pound.” I just couldn’t let it go after that. I wasn’t rude, but I kept going on and on and on about how I never would have recognized her. I felt terrible about what I was saying but I felt powerless to stop. Then the weirdest thing happened: she gave me her number and asked me to call her so we could get together. I took it and muttered something noncommittal, then we both went back to work.

    I threw her number away, of course.

  48. Rex Little says:

    Maybe it’s ’cause I’m an old fart now, but that second picture of Susan Anton doesn’t look half bad to me. I’d do her.

  49. Lyn87 says:

    Rex,

    I’m pretty sure Susan Anton had work done to smooth out the wrinkles. I’ve seen pictures of her from a few years ago (pre-surgery I suspect) and she looked absolutely horrible. The chick I know didn’t have any of that – she aged at least 50 years in the 29 years since I had seen her last. She literally looks older than my mother now.

    Our work brings us together periodically, and we work with a lot of the same people. She has a very abrasive personality, and pretty much everyone she works with or around can’t stand her. The guys all find it hard to believe me when I tell them that she was hotter than a two-dollar pistol when she was 20. I would prove it to them but I have no pictures of her when she was young.

  50. Boxer says:

    That’s exactly how I meant it. The Christians here are welcome to condemn me all they like; if their beliefs about the afterlife are correct, I was going to be roasting and toasting anyway. (If nothing else, living in Arizona or Nevada will help me get used to that.🙂 ) 28 years ago I was helping the same woman cheat on her live-in boyfriend.

    I’ve never been a Christian and don’t believe in the afterlife. I know you’re a piece of shit, and a desperate one at that; but, that’s beside the point.

    I think one of the real tragedies of the loss of male spaces is the subsequent loss of personal honor among men. Atomized men end up resembling women, being led by their “tingles” into all sorts of weirdness, exactly like this.

    Boxer

  51. Rex Little says:

    Amusing note: if you click on Boxer’s name on the above post, it takes you to his blog post titled “Don’t date single moms.” My wife and my ex-fiance were both single moms when I met them, and my wife’s lover is married to a woman who was a single mom when they met. (All the kids involved are grown now, youngest is 28.)

    Boxer, I understand “piece of shit”; a generic, content-free insult which I’m used to hearing in discussions of a more political nature. But I’m curious: what makes you say I’m “desperate”?

  52. Dave says:

    Amusing note: if you click on Boxer’s name on the above post, it takes you to his blog post titled “Don’t date single moms.” My wife and my ex-fiance were both single moms when I met them, and my wife’s lover is married to a woman who was a single mom when they met. (All the kids involved are grown now, youngest is 28.)

    There is nothing you wrote here that invalidates Boxer’s views on single moms.
    Just because you and a few people you knew dated and married single moms, and got away with it does not mean squatch. Some people fell from an incredible height, and survived. But that does not mean it’s safe to do so.

  53. Rex Little says:

    Dave, I had no intention of invalidating Boxer’s views. If anything, my story upholds them, as neither of the marriages involved has worked out very well. I just thought it was a funny coincidence that all of the women involved were single moms.

  54. Boxer says:

    Boxer, I understand “piece of shit”; a generic, content-free insult which I’m used to hearing in discussions of a more political nature. But I’m curious: what makes you say I’m “desperate”?

    Men with honor don’t fuck other men’s wives. We never have, and religion has little to do with that. Married women who will fuck around are the bottom of the barrel, and only a truly thirsty man would fall for such a skeezer. Hope this helps.

    Boxer

  55. Luke says:

    Dave is correct that it is a stupid Fing idea to bang another man’s wife. (He might shoot you or pay for someone else to shoot you, for one thing.)

    However, the belief that once married, a woman is always her first husband’s wife is very much in the minority in the West. Without intent (that belief is essential for), marrying or just sleeping with a divorced woman arguably should not be legally considered the same as “normal” adultery.

  56. Rex Little says:

    Boxer, I see your reasoning: if I had honor, I’d have to be desperate to sleep with a married woman. However, I don’t have honor (at least in matters sexual) and never claimed to.

    What I am is not desperate, but lazy. My ex-fiance and I have a history, so all I need to do is contact her, ask if she’s still interested, get a yes or no answer and move on to the next step if the answer is yes. To get anyone else in the sack would involve a lot more effort; I’m not some super-alpha who women drop their pants for if I ignore them from across the bar.

  57. BradA says:

    living in Arizona or Nevada will help me get used to that.

    Nowhere close. The separation from God is the issue more than the burning. Anyone who really pondered what hell was would not be so flippant about it. Though do what you want. You seem to be making your current life a nice hell, or at least preparing for such, by acting so far out of the Manufacturer’s specs.

    You may have avoided physical diseases so far, but you cannot avoid the emotional and spiritual ones. No condoms for those.

  58. Rex Little says:

    The separation from God is the issue more than the burning.

    If that’s the case I should be fine. I’ve lived my whole life with that separation (can’t get more separate than not believing that God exists), and it hasn’t bothered me.

    Anyone who really pondered what hell was would not be so flippant about it.

    Anyone who believed in hell at all wouldn’t be so flippant. If you haven’t guessed it already, I don’t.

  59. tiredofitall says:

    Rex Little says:
    “I just thought it was a funny coincidence that all of the women involved were single moms.”

    Ah…single mothers, without which we’d never have the next generation of criminals and strippers. Way to go ladies, way to go.

  60. Corvinus says:

    Or their converse, the man who opposes Godly masculinity by pumping and dumping and outright refusing to take ownership of their offspring.

  61. The Anon says:

    40 years old (late thirties at best) and only just thinking about her retirement? She’s late to that as well. Most of the people I know started worrying about their pension in their early 20’s.

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