She sensed a disturbance in the mound.

A few weeks back a comment came up for moderation on Romance 101: How to stop frustrating your wife.  The commenter’s handle was “you are all idiots”, and she explained that I’ve gotten it all wrong:

Hi, as a married female I’d like to point out a few things:

  1. Woman don’t hate your flowers because your not attractive enough or domineering enough
  2. You are all pigs.
  3. Real men make efforts to be romantic on a regular basis (not just once or twice a year) and are appreciated for it. They share in the household and child rearing chores equally. They listen. They love.

I’ve restricted the comments section on that specific post so I decided not to let this troll’s comment through there.  However, I thought I’d share it in a separate post.  For those who are on the fence about Game, I propose you try her advice and see how it works.  If it doesn’t work at first, I’m fairly confident she would explain that you must not be trying hard enough;  so be sure to try really, really hard.

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95 Responses to She sensed a disturbance in the mound.

  1. St Swithunus says:

    I bet the lucky man married to her thanks the Lord for his good luck each and every day…I know I would if I were in his shackles marital bliss.

    How does she feel about sweetness and femininity? Is she for or against?

  2. Dalrock says:

    @St Swithunus

    How does she feel about sweetness and femininity? Is she for or against?

    I have no doubt she is for it.

    You do mean from the husband, right?

  3. Casey says:

    A feminist through and through.
    Absolutely NONE of it is her fault, the MEN must change.

    “We hate your flowers for reasons you could never understand…….but send more of them, more often.”
    &
    “All men are pigs”

    How do you ever begin to reason with such one-sided bullshit?
    I suppose that is the point. Reason has no place in a conversation with a feminist.

    The hard-C word would seem to apply to this woman.

  4. Casey says:

    I would love to share my list of ‘What REAL women make efforts to do in a relationship’.

    I expect this TWAT of an author “you are all idiots” would be a swing & a miss on EACH and EVERY point.

  5. paleopaleo says:

    A woman is never going to tell you, “Your gentleness, willingness to listen, and tendency to treat me as a whole person rather than a sex object makes you beneath contempt. I love you as much as and in exactly the same way that I loved my Raggedy Andy doll.”

    Don’t recall from where this quote originated but it sums the situation well. Feminist types are living a life of cognitive dissonance.

  6. zykos says:

    She said “as a married female”. Didn’t add “happily”, nor indicated that her husband is happy, unlinke our host. So maybe, we simply don’t get it, we’re all pigs, and she’s the only one who figured out how to have a fair but not necessarily happy marriage. And everyone knows fairness and equality is the ultimate goal, right?

  7. feeriker says:

    I guess my one and only question is: why is anyone giving this trollette and her verbal vomitus so much as a serious reading, let alone a response? Creating an entire thread around this semi-literate (someone needs to teach this bitchiot how to spell, or at least how to use Spellchecker) and idiotic drivel is conferring upon it a legitimacy it doesn’t come close to deserving.

  8. Because marriage is all about benefiting only women. Men are required to be romantic all the time, get in touch with their non-existent feminine side, and finally we are supposed to be content with the privilege of having sex with our wives.

    Women get to go out with their friends whenever they want, demand help around the house, and sometimes even have sex with their favorite boy toy at work on threat of divorce. If mama’s not happy, no one is.

    Is it any wonder why divorce rates are so high? Case in point is this chick’s list of garbage advice. Never accept advice from a woman on how to relate to women. Most haven’t bothered to even proposition other women so they have no clue what they are talking about.

  9. St Swithunus says:

    @Dalrock,

    ‘sweetness and femininity’ ‘from the husband’?

    Of course!

    I can’t see it coming from anyone else in that hell on earth sweet, blissful Eden called marriage that they share.

    Some see long life as a blessing, others see death as a sweet release. Bet I know which camp hubby falls in.

  10. If you wanted to know more about Game, in regards to this specific scenario, where would you look?

    IE. a woman want constant romance, what is the appropriate “Game” response?

  11. St Swithunus says:

    @Casey
    “How do you ever begin to reason with such one-sided bullshit?”
    Why would you want to?

    http://www.thenewchristinescreations.com/insulthen.html

    1. He wears the pants in the house – under his apron.

    2. He has two chances of winning an argument with her, slim and none.

    3. She leads a double life – hers and his.

    4. He comes right out and says what she tells him to think.

    5. She does not have to raise the roof, all she has to do is raise an eyebrow.

    6. The only time he opens his mouth is to ask her for the apron and the vacuum cleaner.

    7. He always has the last word – he says, “I apologize”.

    8. She snaps “are you a man or a mouse – squeak up”.

    9. He was a man about town, she has turned him into a mouse around the house.

    10. The last big decision she let him make was whether to wash or to dry.

    11. She tames to be pleased.

    12. He put a ring on her finger and she put one through his nose.

    13. He can’t even open his mouth to yawn, she complains he is causing a draft.

    14. He was a dude before marriage – now he is subdued.

    15. He married her for his looks, but not the kind he’s getting now.

    16. He even has to ask permission to ask permission.

    17. She lost her thumb in an accident and sued for $100,000,
    because it was the thumb she had him under.

    18. She even complains about the noise he makes, when he is fixing his own breakfast.

    19. He worships the ground she gives him the run – around on.

    20. He goes to a woman dentist – it’s a relief to be told to open his mouth instead of to shut it.

    21. When he is late for dinner he gets two kinds of meat,
    ‘hot tongue’ & ‘cold shoulder’.

    22. He should have been warned, when he carried her over the threshold after they were married,
    that she couldn’t wait to put her foot down.

    23. Every once in awhile she comes to him on her bended knees.
    She dares him to come out from under the bed.

    24. He has to hold his pay envelope up to the light,
    to see if he got a raise.

    25. She wants to go to the seashore, claiming that mountain air disagrees with her.
    He can’t see how it would dare.

  12. sunshinemary says:

    “They share in the household and child rearing chores equally.”

    Egalitarianism, Housework, and Sexual Frequency in Marriage (American Sociological Review, February 2013)

    Husbands who do a lot of cooking, cleaning, laundry and other traditionally female forms of housework may do their marriages some good — but, contrary to popular belief, they are not rewarded with more sex, a new study finds.

    Instead, it’s the guys who do the most lawn work, car repair, driving and bill-paying – traditional men’s jobs – who have the most sex in marriage, the study suggests. The same is true for women who do the most traditional female housework, according to the study published in the February issue of American Sociological Review.

    (source)

  13. TFH says:

    That woman is a perfect example of how women are ill-equipped to discuss how women think, and how being a woman does not mean she can discuss her own psychology. Quite the opposite in fact.

    Just like a child is not capable of writing a textbook on child psychology, most women (certainly the one this post is about) are just not capable of discussing female psychology, and thus have no idea how women think.

  14. TFH says:

    Sunshinemary,

    but, contrary to popular belief, they are not rewarded with more sex, a new study finds.

    Even that is wrong. What is this ‘rewarded’? Quite often, the wife wants it too, but the man seeks to avoid sex with is wife (perhaps because she is obese, or some other reason)…

    That sentence itself teaches women to think the wrong way, even while attempting to say that forcing men to do chores is not right..

  15. en-sigma says:

    Shocker.

    they be crazy.

    Who would not “opt out” of this? Shaming tactics don’t work on men. We actually consider our actions before we perform them and when the now-expected shaming begins we step back and wait for you to do it better. And I don’t think you can find a person with a functioning cerebellum that would say that anything is getting better. If more women in society aint making it better, then their outlook can’t be better – they should be considered worse.

  16. crowhill says:

    She is clearly misguided on a few things, but I think it’s important to try to understand what she intends by what she’s saying. Here’s my best stab at it.

    >Woman don’t hate your flowers because your not
    >attractive enough or domineering enough

    I think she’s admitting that sometimes women do hate flowers, and I think she would tell herself that the reason women hate them is that they feel they are a token gesture to get something — into bed, out of the doghouse, etc.

    IOW, from her perspective, if a man doesn’t try to be romantic on a regular basis, the woman is justified in rejecting the rare attempt as worse than nothing.

    So let’s turn this around. What if the man wants the woman to have sex more often, and the few times she makes herself available the man responds with anger because she should be doing it on a regular basis?

    Clearly that doesn’t make any sense, so I would invite your commenter to think a little more deeply about why women get mad in these cases.

    >You are all pigs.
    >Real men make efforts to be romantic on a regular
    >basis (not just once or twice a year) and are
    >appreciated for it.

    I agree with her that men should make efforts to be romantic on a regular basis, but she has already admitted (if my interpretation is correct) that such gestures are not always appreciated. I don’t think she’s facing that honestly.

    Romantic gestures are like oil. If you keep your motor oiled, it runs better. But oil isn’t gasoline.

    >They [real men] share in the household and
    >child rearing chores equally. They listen.
    >They love.

    She’s been breathing the modern poison all her life, so it’s not surprising that she (selectively) rejects the idea of gender-specific roles in the home. That is, men have to help with traditionally female chores.

    I wonder if she believes that women should share in things like mowing the lawn, fixing the car, hauling the 50lb bag of mulch to the garden, checking the basement when there’s a strange sound, fixing the pipes, replacing the broken garbage disposal, etc.

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    Hello Dalrockz!

    I look forward to someday reading your book in the Christian Inspiration section of da bookstores!

    Truly, it would be a rose amongst thorns! :)

    What will the title be?

    If you me and HEartsitesz coauthored a book it would be caleldz:

    THE THREE PILLARS OF MANHOOD & WESTERN CIVIIZATION
    by
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    da dalrockasz (the Christian)
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    It would sell liek hotcakesz!

    Your Christian inspiration book could be, “Manning up and Rescuing our Churches, Marriage, and Children from the Churchians, Feminists, and their Courts.”

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  18. Bob Wallace says:

    I owned a flower shop for a while and the biggest red flag to stay away from a woman is that she complains about her flowers. If she does, take the away from her and tell her you’ll find a woman who appreciates them, then walk out. I kid you not.

  19. Not only are they not “rewarded” with more sex (and I’ll gently skip over the idea that sex within marriage is something the husband or wife have to earn), the couple in which the husband does a lot of housework are MORE LIKELY TO DIVORCE according to a Norwegian study.

    Then too, when the man allows his wife to assume the masculine role and assumes the feminine role for himself, the wife winds up holding him in contempt. Read this article from The Atlantic and think about it. A few choice quotes:

    …we 2012 women fail at being 1950s wives, we fail even more spectacularly at being 1950s husbands. In the Mad Men era, the archetypal dad came home; put down his briefcase; received pipe, Manhattan, roast beef, potatoes, key-lime pie; and was—­apparently—content. By contrast, dwelling in a grayscale midlife pur­gatory of grinding Pilates and ever-shifting diets (Atkins? Zone? South Beach?), if we breadwinning women were handed a Manhattan at the end of the day, we’d be likely to burst into tears and wail, “What’s THIS? What’s IN this? Why are you UNDERMINING me?!”’

    Mundy notes that, regarding the outcome of conflicted female-primary-breadwinner marriages, sometimes a high-earning woman will divorce a man who is financially under­performing and then, without actually remarrying, peacefully cohabit with him. Says Alicia Simpson, a psychiatrist: “It’s like, minus the personal relationship, we [my ex-husband and I] get along just fine. It’s the weirdest thing.”

    In other words, minus the sex. Of course, the ex-husband is expected to give up sex permanently in such a situation because of the issues related to jealousy and maintaining harmony in the “new family.”

  20. Suz says:

    I noticed she used the word “domineering,” instead of “dominant.” Bet she doesn’t know the difference.

  21. boxsterpaul says:

    ” If it doesn’t work at first, I’m fairly confident she would explain that you must not be trying hard enough; so be sure to try really, really hard.”

    I am embarrassed to say, much of my life, I was lead astray by such drivel…….

    I am enough…

  22. TMG says:

    Women cannot explain what they are attracted to. Even enlightened women in the Red Pill world choke on it. There must be some perverse biological explanation for this. Perhaps they can’t admit just how much more primitive they are than men.

  23. Casey says:

    @ TMG

    Didn’t you get the memo? It’s we men who are the primitive, knuckle-dragging, neanderthals.

    You see, now that we (men) have constructed a world where even the dullest of persons can provide for the basics of life…..this gives license to women who can now enter the fray and tell us how terrible a job we’ve done.

    Women will fix it.

    Which is to say they will complain about it until a man does something about it.

  24. Bike Bubba says:

    It could be that the “you are all idiots” woman is unhappily married and taking out her bitterness on you, or it could be that she sees something else in her husband that you’re not cluing in to. To draw a picture, my pastor is visually not terribly imposing–he’s alive today because of a scoliosis surgery performed by the Shriners and you can still tell even when he wears a suit–but there aren’t many wives happier than his, I think. Maybe she’ll speak up again and clarify the matter.

  25. meh says:

    “Woman don’t hate your flowers because your not attractive enough or domineering enough”

    I’m sorry I don’t speak ebonics or womanese, did she mean to say ‘Women hate your flowers because you’re not attractive or domineering enough”?

    Perhaps some community college classes might help this illiterate somewhat. NOT.

  26. I think she’s admitting that sometimes women do hate flowers

    They hate flowers when they’re given by a guy they find unattractive. If she tingles for him, it’ll never occur to her to wonder whether they’re a token gesture. On the contrary, the less often she gets them from the right guy, the more she will love his token gestures and will build them up into great demonstrations of his love and commitment.

  27. Feminist Hater says:

    It’s all about attraction. Brutal honesty, if you’re not attractive, don’t get married. If you’re attractive, pick who you marry extremely carefully because your attraction alone will not keep a woman. Only your ability to keep her tingling matters in the end.

  28. GKChesteron says:

    If you wanted to know more about Game, in regards to this specific scenario, where would you look?

    To what specific scenario are you referring?

  29. I’m sorry I don’t speak ebonics or womanese, did she mean to say ‘Women hate your flowers because you’re not attractive or domineering enough”?

    I don’t think that is what she is saying. I think it is more, “…you only bring me flowers when I tell you that YOU f-cked up and that isn’t good enough…” or “…look, you need to woo me every single day of your life because that is what marriage is, not just once in a while with flowers…” that kind of thing.

    I think this is more her upbringing. If her mother (or God help her, her father) told her that she was so special that any man lucky enough to marry her needs to treat her like a princess every day of her life, then she is going to believe that this is what marriage really is, a never ending pride swallowing siege of the part of the man to continuously romance his wife into loving him. I think it might be that.

  30. The only response I have for her is,..

    “Bring the movies.”

  31. Some Guy says:

    @David Castellani

    >> IE. a woman want constant romance, what is the appropriate “Game” response?

    My reading on that is that it’s a woman that has lost attraction… and she’s trying to “work” on it by lighting a fire under *you*. This is indicative of the fact that she has absolutely no concept of the fact that she has contradictory/unrealizable expectations and that she has her hamster in overdrive looking for ways to get out of whatever commitments she has made to you.

    The thing to be aware of here is that she’s not necessarily looking for *you* to pursue her. She’s looking for someone she finds attractive to pursue her. When you try to implement everything she’s saying and the tingles aren’t there… you will more than likely lose even more status with her and possibly enrage her.

    If you recall the character of Mr. Darcy in “Pride and Prejudice”, he makes big splash by announcing that none of the local girls are even worth dancing with. This is not only a classic “neg”, but it also establishes his frame and the fact that it is up to the women folk to meet *his* standards. It is probable that in the course of your relationship, you have become lax in doing this. Maybe you actually thought she was committed to you and you don’t have to do this sort of thing.

    Depending on how dead the relationship and how little character she has, there are a few standard options and tactics:

    1) Stop supplicating. Do not waste energy jumping through her hoops when you could be making yourself more attractive by working out or earning more money.

    2) Bring the adventure. Pick an activity, a date, and a time. Invite her. Surprise her. Give her something to go along with… and if she chooses not to, go have a blast without her.

    3) Flirting with other women where she can see you seeing that she gets the impression that other women think you’re hot stuff would be epic if you can actually pull that off.

    4) You need a threat point and she needs to believe that you’d be willing to use it. This is trickier given the legal environment– the best you can do is make sure that she gets nothing if she walks.

    Intellectually, philosophically, and theologically… a woman that demands this sort of life long pursuit/courtship has not actually made a commitment and is not serious marriage material. Look back over the red flags you ignored when you fell for her (ie, product of single mother household, etc) and realize that not even game might be able to salvage your crappy situation.

  32. Cane Caldo says:

    @Suz

    I noticed she used the word “domineering,” instead of “dominant.” Bet she doesn’t know the difference.

    I think she just doesn’t want to let go of the ‘neering wheel.

  33. eon says:

    “IE. a woman want constant romance, what is the appropriate “Game” response?”

    Lulz, http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/

  34. 8oxer says:

    If her mother (or God help her, her father) told her that she was so special that any man lucky enough to marry her needs to treat her like a princess every day of her life, then she is going to believe that this is what marriage really is, a never ending pride swallowing siege of the part of the man to continuously romance his wife into loving him. I think it might be that.

    As I study the histories of individuals across cultures and eras, a common theme in the lost art of fatherhood is the way men treated their daughters.

    In the old days, the father of a girl was the one dude who could be counted upon to bring her back to reality. Ideally, priests and other older men would support this, but if no one else would tell a woman whas she needed to hear, it was the father who took up the job of declaring that:

    “No, you are not a precious snowflake, you are a spoiled brat and you need to get off your ass and get to work.”

    A young woman would be able to (start bawling, lie, flash her tits and ass, etc.) at any other man and possibly get a reprieve, but a proper father would be immune to any of this crap, and would lovingly bring his daughter back down out of the stratospheric clouds of ego to earth with his firm hand.

    The attributes you notice are, I believe, largely due to absent and ineffective fathers…

    Regards, Boxer

  35. I don’t think that is what she is saying. I think it is more, “…you only bring me flowers when I tell you that YOU f-cked up and that isn’t good enough…” or “…look, you need to woo me every single day of your life because that is what marriage is, not just once in a while with flowers…” that kind of thing.

    That’s all true, but the point is, she wouldn’t say any of that to a man she was attracted to. If she’s really head-over-heels for him, she’ll get him flowers, or something along those lines that she thinks he’d like. She’ll save the ticket stub from the first movie they went to, and she’ll still be keeping that somewhere safe years later when she’s turning her nose up at whipped hubby’s roses because he didn’t spring for the full two dozen.

    If a man is hearing this kind of stuff, his problem isn’t that he hasn’t been spending enough on her; it’s that she doesn’t really want him anymore, and she’s begun to accumulate reasons to split. He cannot fix it at this point by supplicating and spending more money on her, and that will actually be counterproductive. If there is any hope of turning it around, it will require him to do the exact opposite of everything she says and ramp up the dominance. That may fail too, if things are too far gone, but it won’t cost him anything.

  36. Jeremy says:

    Hi, as a married female I’d like to point out a few things:

    Yes, and as a non-married male, let me tell you all about how to keep a man interested in you through marriage. I’ll be certain to assert that I am in a single heterosexual guy, so I must know everything about what you need to know, because I’ve had so much practice in the field of keeping a man happy.

    Woman don’t hate your flowers because your not attractive enough or domineering enough

    You might be right here, realistically she’s not hating the flowers, she’s hating on the guy for not being “domineering” enough before buying flowers. Sweetness is void of definition without bitterness. If all food on earth were cakes, cookies and candy, no one would have the slightest notion of dessert. Only with the existence of grapefruit, coffee, and beer can sweet foods have real meaning to us. Likewise with marriage, without experiencing periodic flavor changes, women find flowers to be little more than empty romance calories, and they know they don’t feel fulfilled by it, but can’t find the means to express that they need both the sweet and the bitter to feel like they’re being romanced.

    You are all pigs.

    And you’re ignorant of your own nature. If I am to be a pig, at least I f-ing know what I am.

    Real men make efforts to be romantic on a regular basis (not just once or twice a year) and are appreciated for it. They share in the household and child rearing chores equally. They listen. They love.

    Sounds like you need a father, not a husband, try again.

  37. MarcusD says:

    This discussion reminds me of Thomas Sowell on Firing Line (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5BMGYkVdX8#t=385) calling out a very common liberal modus operandi: that of insisting on some theory or course of action (be it the wage gap, welfare effectiveness, domestic violence, and so forth) without providing evidence. It’s a classic shifting of the burden of evidence.

  38. A young woman would be able to (start bawling, lie, flash her tits and ass, etc.) at any other man and possibly get a reprieve, but a proper father would be immune to any of this crap, and would lovingly bring his daughter back down out of the stratospheric clouds of ego to earth with his firm hand.

    The attributes you notice are, I believe, largely due to absent and ineffective fathers…

    Regards, Boxer

    Yup.

  39. If a man is hearing this kind of stuff, his problem isn’t that he hasn’t been spending enough on her; it’s that she doesn’t really want him anymore, and she’s begun to accumulate reasons to split. He cannot fix it at this point by supplicating and spending more money on her, and that will actually be counterproductive. If there is any hope of turning it around, it will require him to do the exact opposite of everything she says and ramp up the dominance. That may fail too, if things are too far gone, but it won’t cost him anything.

    Probably true.

  40. blogRot says:

    I find it telling that this supposedly happily married woman digs up a blog post from one year ago with a topic of ‘how to stop frustrating your wife’ and feels compelled to comment on it.

    Its almost as if she was expecting to find ‘helpful’ information that would reinforce her worldview, didn’t, got peeved about that as equally as about the content of the post, and hit Post Comment.

    Poor lost kitten.

  41. Robert the Wise says:

    You had me at “You are all pigs”. : )

  42. Feminist Hater says:

    http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/love-sex/cheated-boyfriend-don-8217-t-regret-181700261.html

    Yep, this is the type of woman men today are expected to marry. I don’t give a hamster’s teet, I will not lead or help such trash, and I will not help a society or people who promote such vile and disgusting acts.

  43. redpillsetmefree says:

    @FeministHater

    She doesn’t even feel bad about the cheating. She needs to do her boyfriend a favor and set him free, especially since she doesn’t understand that she has now guaranteed that she will get cheated on at some point.

  44. patriarchal landmine says:

    fuck game, why would anyone want to spend a single moment with a creature like that?

  45. …why would anyone want to spend a single moment with a creature like that?

    Because (maybe) he has kids with her and he doesn’t want his children to grow up in a broken home?

    Other than that, I have no idea.

  46. Anonymous Reader says:

    IBB
    Because (maybe) he has kids with her and he doesn’t want his children to grow up in a broken home?

    You misspelled the word “hostages”, it appears…

  47. Tam the Bam says:

    She said “as a married female”.
    Female what?

    Disclaimer: I am not David Bleedin’ Attenborough, gimme a clue here. Maybe like Charades?

  48. feeriker says:

    Tam the Bam said She said “as a married female”.
    Female what?

    An excellent question. Maybe if she decides to re-troll this blog at some point in the future, she’ll deign to tell us.

  49. earl says:

    All bicycles are pigs…that’s really sad coming from a mackerel.

  50. jack says:

    Dear commentress:

    If we are all pigs it is us merely trying to deliver with our behavior that which you deliver with your appearance.

    “All men are pigs” never comes out of the mouth of attractive women. It’s usually someone wh fell off the fatty truck.

  51. Translated:
    1 “Woman don’t hate your flowers because your not attractive enough or domineering enough” — Women love flowers from all sources. Please do not discourage any man from giving me flowers or prizes of all kinds. I need the validation and desperation to rocket my self-esteem into the clouds. Go me!

    2. “You are all pigs.” — According to my mirror, none of you would make a pass at me.

    3. “Real men make efforts to be romantic on a regular basis (not just once or twice a year) and are appreciated for it. They share in the household and child rearing chores equally. They listen. They love.” — They serve. They don’t ask questions. They make my whims reality. They do all the chores while I watch Glee. They listen and then obey. Real men very closely resemble 50’s housewives.

  52. As a married man who did all that stuff…it doesn’t work. I shared the chores. I bought her flowers. I tried to romance her every day. And her chilly disdain for me grew and grew until I couldn’t bear it anymore. Now I buy her flowers as a reward, not a bribe. I do only slightly more chores than I did before I was married. I do romance her, but not every day, sporadically and as a surprise.

    Guess how that’s worked out?

  53. Hannah says:

    This reminds me of a chapter in the book ‘Doesn’t Anybody Blush Anymore’ by Rabbi Manis Friedman…

    “A woman who thought she needed her husband to be more romantic once spoke to me. She said, “He’s responsible, he’s kind, he’s good, but he has no romance in him. He goes to work, he comes home, and every week he brings home a paycheck. But our life together seems so dry and mechanical. He’s making me crazy because he’s so unromantic.”

    Anyone who knew this woman knew she could have been a drill sergeant. So I said to her, “What are you talking about? If your husband suddenly became romantic on you, you’d send him to a psychiatrist.”

    “Why do you say that?” she asked. I told her, “Because you’re not at all the romantic type yourself. You’re a very practical, down-to-earth pragmatic person. Everything about you is efficient. It may seem cliche, but what’s bothering you is a case of `the grass is greener’ way of thinking.

    “You’re only kidding yourself, because in reality, you’d hate it if he turned `romantic’ on you. You’d think he’s being foolish, childish, and irresponsible.

    “You’ve been married to him for seven years in spite of the fact that he isn’t romantic. But if he weren’t reliable and responsible, you wouldn’t have stayed married to him for a month. Think about it.”

    She laughed and agreed with me.”

    @Jack:
    ““All men are pigs” never comes out of the mouth of attractive women. It’s usually someone who fell off the fatty truck.”

    Hehehe this made me laugh! I suspect you’re right :)

  54. Ton says:

    You’re a real man simply by being born with a cock and balls. Doesn’t mean you’re any good at being a man but if the Good Lord gave you the equipment you’re a real man.

    Also being called a pig, chauvinist, etc is all about the tingles and here not liking herself for getting the tingles.

  55. oblivion says:

    when a woman calls u a pig its because she cant win an arguement based on the merit of the arguement. she will try to steer the direction of the conversation away from the point and turn it into drivel. just tell her ” thats fine, we can talk about that other stuff after we finish the talk about this stuff”. lol, i got called a chauvenist pig this week discussing how unfair it is that men will be subsidizing women in relation to the new health care bill. most women will try to wear u out with a long stupid conversation on non facts. stick to your guns long enough and watch the whining begin. after u dont put up with the whining and call her brat she will either A have nothing to do with u (win) or B will act submissive (win)

    btw who married this stupid b*tch?

  56. Maeve says:

    I would venture to guess that any woman who ever called a man a pig has never been up close to a feral hog. Scary buggers! Not so easily dismissed. She’s probably not worth her weight in bacon anyway.

  57. Bucho says:

    Reading this and the following comments make me think that being single isn’t so bad after all. I wonder if another reason if this chick is not happy is that she thinks that she should be unhappy. I mean, look at all this drivel that women watch on TV these days….

    Oh, and maybe this was her attitude on her wedding day…..

    http://www.lolroflmao.com/2011/10/19/new-bride-now-i-can-get-fat/

  58. oblivion says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1OV6jAukjo “what does make me desire such a twisted creature? why?

  59. earl says:

    Many of these fishes need to learn the value of silence. You don’t have to repeat every little thought Satan whispers into your head.

  60. Michael says:

    “Real men make efforts to be romantic on a regular basis (not just once or twice a year) and are appreciated for it.”

    -But these aren’t the men they spread their legs for…

    “They share in the household and child rearing chores equally.”

    -“Pitching in” is one thing. Sharing “equally” is another. It doesn’t feel right that most women would be attracted to a man who takes up the traditional chores of a women equally. No proof. Just a hunch.

    “They listen. They love.”

    -I have to agree with her here.

  61. Men will share equally in the chores when doing so doesn’t get them frozen out in bed.

  62. IrishFarmer says:

    If this is working out so well for her, why is she googling around until she finds a manosphere blog? Methinks she doth protest too much.

  63. Matamoros says:

    as a married female:
    Perhaps she means soon to be divorced because she isn’t Haaaappppppyyyyyy. Or maybe her so-called husband will man up and kick her ass out.

    You are all pigs.
    So she is married to a pig. What does that make her? A pigess? Ms. Pig.

    If she’d get her snout out of the mud and shit, and visit reality, maybe she would realize how good she has it.

  64. @Hannah – very insightful…keep on going !!
    ~Shalom in the home

  65. freebird says:

    Standard DARVO

  66. St Swithunus says:

    “Perhaps she means soon to be divorced because she isn’t Haaaappppppyyyyyy. Or maybe her so-called husband will man up and kick her ass out.”

    I get the feeling that she’d divorce him except she suspects that he’d be happier as a result.

  67. German Shepherd says:

    Read this:

    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/01/what-socialism-destroyed-govt-shutdown/

    The most interesting excerpt from the above link:
    “For centuries, people had children to provide for their own retirement. Family units were the social structure. The sad part of socialism is how this family unit was fundamentally destroyed by socialism. Once social security was created, children were relieved of the burden of taking care of their parents – that became government’s job. People were told to save conservatively. They salted away money often in government bonds. Now government has been so fiscally irresponsible, they have to keep interest rates low not to stimulate the economy, but to control their own perpetual deficits.”

  68. James Wolfe says:

    From my own personal experience I believe that women don’t know how or for that matter even want to be happy. They have unrealistic expectations about what it means to be in a relationship that only leads to disappointment when things don’t turn out that way. What they want in a man, or what they’ve been told to want, and what men have been told and raised to be, is rejected and disdained. Nice guys finish last because women hate nice guys. They will only use nice guys to get what they want. And being told that they should be independent, and not rely on men for anything, and all men are pigs, causes them to resent men for wanting to help them and be nice to them, rather than appreciate them. They see it as a confrontation, competition, trying to show them up, that there must be some kind of ulterior motive, we obviously want something in return, when in reality all we want is for them to be nice to us. And because they CAN’T do everything on their own, by themselves, and MUST rely on men for SOME things it frustrates them to no end. But when the obvious choice is to be nice and asking nicely they refuse, instead they choose to nag, complain, and criticize which destroys the relationship.

    And the reason I believe women don’t want to be happy is because they seem to enjoy it so much. They spend hours every week huddled together in groups at work, at dinner parties, chatting on the phone or texting, about how miserable they are. About what such a bore or idiot their boyfriends or husbands are. They write endless blogs and books on how terrible their lives and relationships are and how it’s all men’s fault. There is an entire Oprah culture of unhappy women that can be found on TV and the New York Times best seller list. Being unhappy is popular among women. It’s something they can all relate to and be successful at. And the best part is it doesn’t require any effort to be unhappy. Being happy is a lot of work. It means having to give of yourself, place others ahead of yourself, doing things for others. Why do all that when being the center of the unhappy crowd is so much easier?

    The reason I refuse to participate is simply that. The number of women who are happy and want to be happy or even know how to be happy are very few. All of the women that I dated or were close friends with over the years, and the one I eventually married, all have “issues”, self inflicted damage, that prevent them from being happy. If they had everything they ever wanted they would still not be happy. I’m tired of being around deliberately unhappy people. I go out of my way to avoid them, which unfortunately means I avoid roughly half the population. But I have decided to take some advice I read here recently. I’ve decided to get back into the shape I was 10 years ago when I first became a free man again. So that women will notice me as I walk by ignoring them. Whats the point in being happy if you can’t rub it in?

  69. Solomon says:

    If we are “all pigs”

    then her husband is a pig too.

    maybe she should change her “you are all idiots” to

    WE are all idiots.

  70. Solomon says:

    Also, I do love the irony of being called an pig and an idiot by a person who can’t make the distinction between “your” and “you’re”

  71. Opus says:

    “Hi, as a married female I’d like to point out a few things. Because you are not attractive or domineering enough you are all pigs. Women don’t hate flowers. Real men make an effort to be romantic on a regular basis and being appreciated for it are allowed to share in the household and childrearing chores equally and [like my husband] listen to what they are told to do.”

  72. Anonymous age 71 says:

    @Bucho: A couple years ago my best friend in Mexico (a woman) showed us pictures of her niece’s wedding. She was HOT! On the same package of pictures was a horrible fat thing. To my surprise it was the same woman a few weeks after the wedding. We assumed she must have eaten the whole wedding cake by herself. My friend’s son, an adult, said it was fraud, and the guy should take her back to her parents.

  73. Random Angeleno says:

    @Bucho: A couple years ago my best friend in Mexico (a woman) showed us pictures of her niece’s wedding. She was HOT! On the same package of pictures was a horrible fat thing. To my surprise it was the same woman a few weeks after the wedding. We assumed she must have eaten the whole wedding cake by herself. My friend’s son, an adult, said it was fraud, and the guy should take her back to her parents.

    Imagine trying to do that in the US…

  74. Martian Bachelor says:

    @Earl

    “Do you not know I am woman? When I think, I must speak.”
    – Shakespeare (As You Like It)

    Wife is just one damned thing after another…

  75. James K says:

    You are all pigs.

    Imagine being married to this ball of hatred, with the only possible escape being to live in a trailer for the rest of your days.

    I hope she explained how she feels to her husband before she married him.

  76. JDG says:

    “They share in the household and child rearing chores equally”.

    “Men will share equally in the chores when doing so doesn’t get them frozen out in bed.”

    Nope! I bring home the bacon. She cooks it and cleans up. I’m the provider. She is the home maker. That’s how we divide up the chores. Deep freeze or hot tamale doesn’t change it. I know, I know, I’m a sexist pig.

  77. mrsdarlings says:

    Well, I’ve received more happiness from not expecting things from my husband. When I stopped, I felt I was less aggressive,menacing and devouring. When he actually does stuff for me is quite a surprise, pleasant and appreciated much much more. And actually he does things more than when I expected it or showed martyrdom when he didn’t . He lost all his girls friends before me by being romantic. I love not expecting because when i do receive i thoroughly enjoy. Also,I love not having money unless I ask him for some. And I love having him tell me to wait for something or that I can buy something when this or that happens. It totally takes out the impatience and leaves me with the pleasures of delayed gratification. I receive more pleasure from my efforts of work of a housewife. Waiting for his okay and approval actually brings me the things when I actually need it WHEN I NEED it. Not when I think I need it. Overall I’ve stopped feeling like this ever consuming black hole.

  78. mrsdarlings says:

    Well, actually doesn’t do more. It just feels like more because i expect less.

    http://housewifesexuality.wordpress.com/

  79. feeriker says:

    @mrsdarlings @ 10/2/13 4:55am:

    Do you think you can deliver that same message to my wife? I think she would benefit tremendously from hearing it and will be a much happier woman for acting on it (you can send me the bill for your services afterword).

  80. earl says:

    “Real men make efforts to be romantic on a regular basis (not just once or twice a year) and are appreciated for it.”

    I do love it when a woman makes the attempt to say what a real man is.

    I hope she takes my advice when I tell her what a real woman does during the third trimester of pregnancy.

  81. Reginald says:

    I wonder how often she performs romantic gestures for her (unfortunate) husband?

  82. OT

    I think i’m understanding Gods design for men and women and why male and female feminists are so miserable.

    When my dad first told me that he could clean better than my mom, I did a total white knight for her. I don’t think i believed what i was saying, but it felt good because it reinforced my view of myself in the male role.

    But then I had some woman clean one of my rental houses i own, and she took forever to clean one small area. Without me asking, she told me that it was because she was OCD and a perfectionist. In hindsight, I could have done just as good of a job but ten times faster.

    So I think the sex roles were invented so that women could feel like they were good at something too. And men went along with it because it made women feel better, and the men could still feel like they were doing the heavy and important work.

    But maybe the Bible was right after all. Maybe women are the weaker sex and need to be supervised and taught how to do everything. And we just give them the easy jobs because those jobs are hard to mess up.

    God made Eve to be Adams helper. But how could she be a helper if she was already better at that task than he was.

    In this light, I think i’ve finally found some empathy for the female condition. If you fail at your job that you’re supposed to be good at, then you’ll want to run away to some corporate job where no one can evaluate you. If you mistakenly believe that the womans role is beyond you, then you will reject that role.

    But if you understand that your not supposed to naturally excell at anything, and that men will always outperform you, then maybe you can find happiness by being a lifelong helper.

  83. Anonymous Reader says:

    If you fail at your job that you’re supposed to be good at, then you’ll want to run away to some corporate job where no one can evaluate you.

    Or you’ll want to run the show all by yourself with no help from anybody else, and when that doesn’t work the it will be all the fault of men (whose help you did not want). Then, having destroyed a family / marriage / small business / corporation you’ll move on to something else, loudly proclaiming your victim status.

    And White Knights will line up to do your bidding, too.

  84. Casey says:

    @ Dalrock

    There is certainly a lot of coverage in DC this morning regarding the mentally disturbed woman who tried to breach Whitehouse security……and died for her actions.

    It was extremely fortunate her 1 year old daughter was not killed as well.

    The boyfriend (and I presume father to the child) had alerted authorities this past December that this woman was delusional.

    It begs a question: Exactly what DOES it take for a woman to lose custody of a child to the father?

    The boyfriend and

  85. MarcusD says:

    @TransMillennium

    That’s just a re-post from this blog here: http://jamesrusselllingerfelt.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/beautiful-advice-from-a-divorced-man-after-16-years-of-marriage/

    The link was posted a few weeks ago, if I recall correctly.

  86. mrsdarlings says:

    @feeriker
    You would have to ask Mr. Darling. He is my god under god in our house.

  87. Anonymous Reader says:

    It begs a question: Exactly what DOES it take for a woman to lose custody of a child to the father?

    Pretty difficult for someone in prison to also have custody of a child. I know of one such case.

  88. greyghost says:

    Well in poor black communities she looses custody when the state comes to pick up the body. A woman has to say “I don’t want the child” or the child dies or is killed.

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